[00:16:10] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q18019798 << i thought talk pages weren't allowed to have items? [00:47:10] PROBLEM - check if wikidata.org dispatch lag is higher than 2 minutes on wikidata is CRITICAL: HTTP CRITICAL: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - pattern not found - 1455 bytes in 0.221 second response time [01:47:20] RECOVERY - check if wikidata.org dispatch lag is higher than 2 minutes on wikidata is OK: HTTP OK: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - 1445 bytes in 0.186 second response time [07:41:11] 10Wikidata, 10§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-02-03, 10§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-02-25, 5Patch-For-Review: Adjust AuthorityControl Gadget to snakview name changes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87858#1077240 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) a:3aude [08:08:09] (03PS2) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Split parser cache by editsection flag [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/192976 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85252) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [08:10:25] Lydia_WMDE: What's with the spam on Wikidata-I lately? [08:11:05] sjoerddebruin: they are subscribed -.- [08:11:11] i'll put them on moderation later [08:11:31] http://wdq.wmflabs.org/stats is getting live updates! \o/ [08:11:39] \o/ [08:11:50] Lydia_WMDE: I’m wondering if we should start a thread somewhere about getting more maintainers for magnus’ stuff [08:12:00] I end up doing a bunch of it, but that’s all ‘volunteer time’ etc [08:12:01] YuviPanda: Any idea when it's realtime again? [08:12:36] sjoerddebruin: no idea. wdq code itself is a blackbox to me - multithreaded C++ isn’t something I wanna touch unless I absolutely have to [08:12:46] YuviPanda: yeah let's have that. short chat between us first? and definitely with magnus [08:12:47] sjoerddebruin: but I imported it yesterday at Feb 23, and it’s at Feb 25 now [08:12:52] Lydia_WMDE: yeah, definitely. [08:13:21] YuviPanda: Last time I checked was yesterday, was 15-2 then. [08:13:34] sjoerddebruin: http://wdq.wmflabs.org/stats is 25 - 02 [08:13:46] I know. [08:13:47] I’ll update again when https://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/wikidata/ has a newer dump [08:13:49] from today? [08:13:51] or tomorrow [08:13:51] not sure [08:13:57] Today is new dump [08:14:14] yup, nothing on https://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/wikidata/ yet [08:14:51] I did most edits last week before 25-02, so I'm happy. :) [08:14:59] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P325 is instructions on how to update from a dump [08:15:38] I’m attempting to automat eit now [08:15:40] *automate it [08:15:55] Yeah, don't have much experience sadly. :( [08:19:31] * Lydia_WMDE is off to get to the office [08:30:21] sjoerddebruin: ’tis ok :) poking if it lags too much is appreciated [09:18:58] YuviPanda: Date just dropped to 23-02? [09:28:00] This is becoming annoying. https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q19825&action=history [09:41:11] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 04-2] "In my opinion this should not be enabled by default for all Wikibase installations in the world. In my opinion this should be a wikidata.o" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/193669 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91069) (owner: 10Gerrit Patch Uploader) [09:46:19] 10Wikidata, 10§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-02-25: Browsertests for badge-selector - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88795#1077510 (10WMDE-Fisch) a:3WMDE-Fisch [09:47:35] [13ValueView] 15thiemowmde 04deleted 06listrotatordraw at 14ec1ece1: 02http://git.io/xBSa [09:51:27] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 032] "Thanks." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191559 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [10:02:05] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Fix property name in WikibaseContentLanguages [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191559 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [10:24:40] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): "Please:" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/192295 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [10:26:40] (03PS1) 10Ebrahim: Move direction applying to inner element [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/193803 [10:30:12] (03PS2) 10Ebrahim: Move direction applying to inner element [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/193803 [10:32:49] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): "There is a comment. Come on. There is nothing fancy in this regex. Maybe you are missing a test? I don't see an obvious way forward here. " [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/192313 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [10:35:01] 10Wikidata, 10§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-02-03, 10§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-02-25, 5Patch-For-Review: Adjust AuthorityControl Gadget to snakview name changes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87858#1077652 (10aude) https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=User:Aude/authority.js&oldid=200606764 are the minima... [10:41:33] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): "The "FormatterOptions" line is unrelated, everything else is crucial. You can tell pretty easy because the test will fail if you revert on" (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/192544 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [11:04:39] [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15zeljkofilipin comment on pull request #53 14e6b6aaf: I think "be ==" could be replaced with "eq" 02http://git.io/xRIL [11:05:22] [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15zeljkofilipin comment on pull request #53 14e6b6aaf: The same as above. 02http://git.io/xRIC [11:06:09] 10Wikidata: External property links break in Chrome - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89259#1077702 (10aude) my changes for the timing issue probably do help, but I looked at the gadget further during the weekend. It works by going through all statements on an item page, finds the main snak property, adds... [11:06:18] [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15tobijat pushed 3 new commits to 06master: 02http://git.io/xRIi [11:06:18] 13WikidataBrowserTests/06master 14ed7e088 15WMDE-Fisch: get rid of fixmes and refactored sitelink creation [11:06:18] 13WikidataBrowserTests/06master 14da6ff46 15WMDE-Fisch: refactored sitelinks to use indexed_properties [11:06:18] 13WikidataBrowserTests/06master 149a5ad74 15Tobi Gritschacher: Merge pull request #52 from wmde/sitelink_fixmes... [11:06:33] [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15zeljkofilipin comment on pull request #54 1459800c8: Looks like you have forgot to indent "And" steps. 02http://git.io/xRIS [11:07:20] 10Wikidata, 10Continuous-Integration, 10MediaWiki-ResourceLoader, 10MediaWiki-Vagrant, and 2 others: qunit test broken without explicitly setting $wgResourceLoaderMaxQueryLength - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90453#1077706 (10JanZerebecki) The test run without that setting failed even though it shows... [11:08:24] [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15zeljkofilipin comment on pull request #54 1459800c8: "be ==" should be replaced with "eq" everywhere in this file. 02http://git.io/xRLz [11:08:45] DanielK_WMDE: we've just had the daily. Thiemo_WMDE answerd on the time patches, can you have a look again? [11:09:05] [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15zeljkofilipin comment on pull request #54 1459800c8: Step implementation should never be "And", it is either Given, When or Then. 02http://git.io/xRL6 [11:09:09] Tobi_WMDE_SW: also https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/193565/ is needed for the gadget [11:09:18] else qualifiers won't get linked [11:10:43] [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15zeljkofilipin comment on pull request #54 1459800c8: The tree above "And" steps do not have an assertion, but they are a "Then" step, and they should always have assertions. 02http://git.io/xRtL [11:10:49] aaaah, beta [11:17:19] (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Consolidate code/docs in TimeDetailsFormatter [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/193806 [11:20:06] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Consolidate code/docs in TimeDetailsFormatter [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/193806 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [11:24:04] [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15WMDE-Fisch 04force-pushed 06url_T88545 from 14e6b6aaf to 14f002157: 02http://git.io/xL8g [11:24:04] 13WikidataBrowserTests/06url_T88545 14a145ed5 15WMDE-Fisch: initial statments_url feature commit [11:24:04] 13WikidataBrowserTests/06url_T88545 14f002157 15WMDE-Fisch: replaced "be ==" with "eq" [11:24:58] (03PS2) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Consolidate code/docs in TimeDetailsFormatter [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/193806 [11:30:13] Tobi_WMDE_SW: http://wikidata.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Q12480 :) [11:30:56] YuviPanda: WDQ seems down. https://wdq.wmflabs.org/stats won't load... [11:31:03] :( [11:31:12] burrrr [11:31:14] looking [11:31:16] * aude is scared to touch it and doesn't know what to do [11:31:57] touch what? wdq? [11:32:01] yeah [11:32:12] if this is just restart it? maybe [11:32:38] aude: I just restarted [11:32:43] ok [11:33:08] that didn’t do much good [11:33:11] it’s stuck spinning all cores [11:35:39] (03PS1) 10AYUSH GARG: WikibaseRepository: updating long technical strings [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/193808 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T41259) [11:35:41] aude: sjoerddebruin jem I don’t know what’s happening. [11:35:46] it’s still just spinning [11:36:09] and not really doing anything other than burning up CPU [11:36:57] :( [11:37:07] wdq itself is opaque to me [11:37:27] * aude has looked at the code but not sure how all the parts go together etc [11:38:17] https://wdq.wmflabs.org/stats seems up [11:38:49] http://wdq.wmflabs.org/api.php?q=claim[195:210081] :( [11:39:00] Autolist works again... [11:39:01] maybe it's starting to come back... [11:39:08] [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15WMDE-Fisch 04force-pushed 06url_T88545 from 14f002157 to 14e5813d0: 02http://git.io/xL8g [11:39:08] 13WikidataBrowserTests/06url_T88545 14e5813d0 15WMDE-Fisch: replaced "be ==" with "eq" [11:40:01] http://tools.wmflabs.org/autolist/autolist1.html?q=STRING%5B214%3A%2264192849%22%5D :) [11:40:04] aude: I realized it’s multithreaded C++ and stopped doing anything just there [11:40:39] (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Optional +/- sign in TimeDetailsFormatter [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/193811 [11:45:44] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Special:EntityData redirects to the item page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91215#1077760 (10Nemo_bis) 5declined>3Open Why redirect? And why is this not stated in https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData , which only says "This page provides a linked... [11:47:28] sjoerddebruin: aude jem is wdq behaving as expected? [11:48:00] Well, still the lag but yes. [11:48:23] the lag = outdated] [11:48:52] right [11:48:56] but at least it works [11:49:06] * aude doesn't know what to do with the lag [11:49:17] a new dump? [11:49:44] aude: AC works on beta? yay! [11:49:51] Tobi_WMDE_SW: \o/ [11:50:02] (03PS3) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Add fail-safe for YYYY-00-00 to DateTimeParser [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/192306 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87574) [11:51:10] aude: yeah, a new dump. however, the reason there’s a lot of lag is that there’s some bug in the update code in wdq [11:51:11] (03PS3) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Fix detection of 3-digit YYY-MM-DD in DateTimeParser [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/192307 [11:51:22] :( [11:52:27] (03PS4) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Add fail-safe for YYYY-00-00 to DateTimeParser [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/192306 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87574) [11:52:46] (03PS4) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Fix detection of 3-digit YYY-MM-DD in DateTimeParser [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/192307 [11:55:32] (03PS3) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Add more tests with leading zeros [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/192308 [11:55:46] (03PS3) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Major rewrite of DateTimeParser::getValueWithFixedYearLengths [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/192313 [11:55:59] (03PS3) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Trim leading zeros from 5+ digit years in DateTimeParser [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/192314 [11:56:31] [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15WMDE-Fisch 04force-pushed 06time_T88542 from 1459800c8 to 14121ff20: 02http://git.io/xLlF [11:56:31] 13WikidataBrowserTests/06time_T88542 14db9e843 15WMDE-Fisch: initial statments_time feature commit [11:56:31] 13WikidataBrowserTests/06time_T88542 14121ff20 15WMDE-Fisch: minor refactoring [11:59:30] (03PS3) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Rename DateTimeParser to PhpDateTimeParser [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/192317 [11:59:35] [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15WMDE-Fisch comment on commit 14121ff20: Kind of find it annoying to have the this "when_visible.visible? to be true".... 02http://git.io/xRl1 [12:11:44] [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15zeljkofilipin comment on commit 14121ff20: This could be simplified:... 02http://git.io/xRRg [12:14:42] could an admin please block 114.183.56.228? the IP has been making hundreds of problematic edits again, and the last three blocks didn't seem to help things. [12:16:37] YairRand: looking [12:18:40] YairRand: Can you first warn him/her again? :) [12:19:12] aude: seems the SC gadget does still not work perfectly. with debug=false it sometimes just loads 1 or two links and leaves out the rest.. [12:20:11] sjoerddebruin: is that necessary? the IP has already received quite a number of warnings on this issue. [12:20:37] YairRand: IMO, yes. [12:20:58] sjoerddebruin: very well. [12:47:13] (03PS1) 10Daniel Kinzler: Fix MORE documentation error in populateChangesSubscription.php [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/193816 [12:49:35] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "@thiemo: can you extract this change from the chain, so we can discuss it separately without blocking anything? It's a purely cosmetic iss" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/192313 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [12:52:34] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 032] "hrm, ok ;)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/192295 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [12:57:33] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Simplify 5-digit-year regex in DateTimeParser [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/192295 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [12:57:38] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Test years with leading zeros in DateTimeParserTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/192297 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [12:57:46] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Rework and fix issues in DateTimeParserTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/192300 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [12:59:26] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "Please fail fast & be safe." (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/192544 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [13:00:18] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 032] "restoring +2" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/192306 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87574) (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [13:00:40] Tobi_WMDE_SW: what item? [13:00:54] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 032] "restore +2" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/192308 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [13:01:12] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "restoring +2" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/192314 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [13:01:33] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 032] "restoring +2" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/192317 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [13:03:11] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add fail-safe for YYYY-00-00 to DateTimeParser [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/192306 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87574) (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [13:03:34] aude: authority item [13:03:43] when logged out, i see [13:04:05] * aude tries to apply the changes for the timing issues [13:05:33] Tobi_WMDE_SW: try again [13:06:00] hmmm, in firefox... [13:06:55] (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Make PhpDateTimeParser fail if PHP changes the year [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/193817 [13:10:27] Where can I find the translation for "The Wikidata item associated with this page will be automatically updated soon."? [13:12:38] sjoerddebruin: probably wikibase client [13:12:51] Can't find it on translatewiki [13:13:08] if you set your language to qqx, it should say what it is [13:13:14] uselang=qqx [13:13:31] or https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=%22associated+with+this+page+will+be+automatically%22 [13:13:56] It's displayed on the page after deletion, not possible to see that I think... [13:13:58] wikibase-after-page-move-queued [13:14:03] ah [13:14:16] https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Wikibase-after-page-move-queued [13:14:28] Exists, but I saw the English version.... [13:14:59] hm [13:16:20] Can I fetch items that have certain properties from the labs' repdb? [13:17:07] a930913: maybe via the Special:Whatlinkshere (the equivalent database tables) [13:17:25] might not be 100% perfect, as it doesn't know about references vs. main property/snak etc [13:19:43] aude: A other sysop also gets the English version. Should I create a task? [13:20:12] sjoerddebruin: sure [13:20:22] sounds like it needs investigating [13:20:27] :) [13:25:49] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, 10Wikidata: wikibase-after-page-move-queued shows up in English on nlwiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91250#1077807 (10Sjoerddebruin) 3NEW [13:27:19] (03CR) 10JanZerebecki: [C: 04-1] "Thank you for picking this up." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/193808 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T41259) (owner: 10AYUSH GARG) [13:27:54] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, 10Wikidata, 7I18n: wikibase-after-page-move-queued shows up in English on nlwiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91250#1077807 (10Sjoerddebruin) [13:28:26] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Special:MergeItems should report all conflicts at once - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91210#1077820 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3Normal [13:29:21] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Special:EntityData redirects to the item page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91215#1077835 (10Lydia_Pintscher) [13:33:53] aude: seems to work for me now in chrome but not in firefox [13:35:21] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, 10Wikidata, 7I18n: wikibase-after-page-move-queued shows up in English on nlwiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91250#1077840 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3Normal [13:35:32] 10Wikidata, 10VisualEditor: Visual Editor does not work well on Wikidata:Project chat - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91252#1077842 (10aude) 3NEW [13:36:07] on firefox, i get "unresponsive script" [13:36:17] i reverted my timing changes and still get that [13:39:08] Tobi_WMDE_SW: i am temporarily making authority control not default, so we can investigate this [13:39:21] aude: huh.. I was not getting this before but I'm getting it now [13:39:29] yah [13:39:43] but I was logged out before [13:40:05] ok, also if I'm logged out [13:40:07] http://bits.beta.wmflabs.org/wikidata.beta.wmflabs.org/load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=vector&version=20150225T204957Z:44 [13:40:27] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Special:EntityData redirects to the item page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91215#1077852 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5High>3Normal We can add more explanatory text to the special page. Redirecting is the right thing to do there. If you get a URL with... [13:42:41] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Clarify message on Special:EntityData - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91215#1077860 (10Lydia_Pintscher) [13:42:52] Tobi_WMDE_SW: somehow i think this is unrelated but obviously not good [13:43:21] aude: hm, yeah definitely not good. but wondering where it comes from.-. did not have it minutes ago [13:43:35] also tests were fine about an hour ago [13:43:50] :( [13:44:15] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: EntitiySelector value input field vanishing while choosing property - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90853#1077866 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3Normal a:5Snaterlicious>3None [13:44:45] 10Wikidata: Deploy changes_subscription table - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90733#1077871 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3High [13:46:17] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Uncaught Error: Not implemented yet. UnUnserializableValue.js:111 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91157#1077877 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3Normal [13:46:58] Tobi_WMDE_SW: cleared local storage in firefox and ok now [13:47:01] but no gadget [13:47:13] aude: is it default again? [13:47:17] no [13:47:21] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, 10Wikidata, 7I18n: wikibase-after-page-move-queued shows up in English on nlwiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91250#1077883 (10Mbch331) The problem described by Sjoerd happens when we delete pages. I think MediaWiki:Wikibase-after-page-delete-queued is called, w... [13:47:22] * aude make it default again [13:47:34] 10Wikidata, 10MediaWiki-API: Update Wikidata for ApiResult rewrite - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91073#1077887 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3High [13:53:10] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: redesign statement section - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87316#1077909 (10Lydia_Pintscher) [13:53:11] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: suggestions cut off if I am adding a statement at the bottom of the page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90897#1077910 (10Lydia_Pintscher) [13:54:13] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: suggestions cut off if I am adding a statement at the bottom of the page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90897#1077914 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3Normal [13:55:11] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: After I undo a description in the "term" box, the item page shows version of description before undo - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90893#1077922 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3High [13:55:40] aude: now the gadget seem to work in firefox [13:55:45] not for me [13:55:54] will retrigger the tests [13:55:57] no? [13:56:18] sure it's caching but i cleared local storage again [13:56:43] Is it me, or is the wd documentation very disjointed and incomplete? [13:57:57] Can I get P570 of Q42 from the database? [13:58:16] 10Wikidata: Special:Search suggestions on Wikidata are confusing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90868#1077930 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3Low [13:58:26] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, 10Wikidata, 7I18n: wikibase-after-page-move-queued shows up in English on nlwiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91250#1077933 (10hoo) 5Open>3Invalid a:3hoo //wikibase-after-page-delete-queued// simply isn't translated. It can be translated on https://transla... [13:58:35] 10Wikidata, 10CirrusSearch: Special:Search suggestions on Wikidata are confusing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90868#1069678 (10Lydia_Pintscher) [14:03:18] 10Wikidata, 10MediaWiki-Vagrant, 10§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-02-25, 5Patch-For-Review: labs-vagrant git-update should run composer update in WikidataBuildResources - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90565#1077953 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3Normal [14:03:58] 10Wikidata, 6Release-Engineering: Travis failure for mysql + hhvm due to DBConnectionError - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90178#1077960 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3Normal [14:04:13] 10Wikidata, 10§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-02-25: Automated Wikidata build process - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90567#1077961 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3Normal [14:04:50] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: wikidata qunit test on labs-vagrant have errors - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90459#1077964 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3Normal [14:05:48] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 6Mobile-Web: Image thumbnail urls should be included where applicable in wikidata API response for commonsMedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76827#1077974 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3Normal [14:06:37] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 6Mobile-Web: Image thumbnail urls should be included where applicable in wikidata API response for commonsMedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76827#1077980 (10Lydia_Pintscher) a:5Lydia_Pintscher>3None [14:06:45] 10Wikidata, 10CirrusSearch: Special:Search suggestions on Wikidata are confusing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90868#1077981 (10Manybubbles) Wikidata's search deserves some real design work. Right now it just gets whatever default Cirrus integration there is which isn't very wikidata specific. If this... [14:09:49] aude: yea you're right. tests still failing.. :( [14:10:10] it's like the gadget script isn't executed at all [14:10:57] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 5Patch-For-Review: Make Wikibase Repo work with a custom File collection, not only Wikimedia Commons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90492#1077983 (10Snaterlicious) @adrianheine: Can you join in on that? We need a sane way to pass the configuration... [14:13:33] (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Consolidate year regular expressions in PhpDateTimeParser [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/193819 [14:21:12] hey #wikidata - question about labs access - I see that there is no page text data in the labs replica. Has someone hacked something together to get access to that lately? [14:21:34] manybubbles: no [14:21:40] aude: :( [14:21:43] thanks [14:21:49] * aude 99% sure [14:21:54] k [14:21:55] people have to use dumps :( [14:22:18] k. I was trying to find a way for us to use the code stas is working on now to experiment with different RDF formats [14:22:28] but without a large large large chunk of wikidata its not really valid [14:22:36] so we probably have to go back to dump processing [14:22:47] well [14:23:05] i had dumped contents of a dump into postgres (page text) [14:23:13] and hacked my wikibase to have it access them :) [14:23:23] that's that kind of thing that would do it [14:23:44] so you use the labs replica for most things but postgres for the page text? [14:23:46] just add it as an extra database, like global usage, central auth etc [14:23:48] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): "Extracting this patch from the chain is almost similar to abandoning everything." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/192313 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [14:23:55] i didn't use labs ... was on my own [14:23:58] ah [14:23:59] k [14:24:12] so i could index wikidata in cirrus etc :) [14:24:20] did you load the dump using that java tool? [14:24:33] this was before there was a java tool, but now i would use toolkit [14:24:39] * aude hacked my own java tool [14:24:56] then also geocoded everything in postgis [14:25:55] ah! [14:26:03] :) [14:26:11] wikidata toolkit can load dumps to mediawiki/ [14:26:12] ? [14:26:22] then you could hack any maintenance script like the rdf ones to use these revisions [14:26:59] manybubbles: probably doesn't do that part [14:27:37] i just had a dump database, with revision blob, rev id, item id, lat, long, geocoded things, [14:27:43] dumb* [14:27:48] k [14:28:34] since most items have one coordinate, and ignore if there are multiple [14:30:47] manybubbles: wikibase has something like an EntityId iterator [14:31:26] EntityIdPager.php [14:31:32] 4.7GBdump [14:31:35] i made one for my postgres [14:31:45] then could use EntityLookup etc [14:31:49] heh - I'll be happy when I get google fiber [14:32:04] aude: cool. I'll mail this chat to stas because I doubt he has a bouncer here. I don't. [14:32:05] should make this into a more reusable tool :) [14:32:30] i then used wikibase data model to do things in php, but it's kind of more slow than it used to be [14:32:40] and now we have toolkit, so think i would do more with toolkit now [14:32:47] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): "If your problem is that you neither can read the old nor the new code, you are not alone. I'm dropping the whole section in a later patch " [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/192307 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [14:32:50] depending on what it is [14:36:59] I guess the question is how much work should we go through to get PHP access when we can write a parallel effort to do the translation using some script (wikidata toolkit too) on dumps to generate the experimental data. Then we "just" reimplment it in php. [14:37:43] depends what you want [14:37:56] i'm assuming generating the rdf dumps, using the maintenance script? [14:38:59] * aude would want toolkit to generate exact same rdf as Special:EntityData and dumps from wikibase [14:44:30] yeah - I think that is what Markus wants too [14:44:40] but the question is where is it easier to experiment with different formats [14:44:42] because need that [14:45:40] without actually having stuff enabled on wikidata and making experimental dumps, i would experiment via toolkit imho [14:46:57] even if we merged, stas' patch, then it won't be deployed for a week at least (unless we do swat) [14:47:07] and then difficult still to experiment and change things [14:49:42] yeah - that is the ticket - the experimentation. [14:50:04] * aude would use toolkit to experiment [14:50:19] with Cirrus we'd deploy it with a bunch of feature flags and mess with them. but that is because we had 0% chance of loading all the data outside of production and they were super simple to implement. [14:50:21] also, java is faster for dump processing [14:50:25] yeah [14:50:53] it used to be our data model was faster + dumps smaller, that i did stuff like extract coordinates with php [14:51:09] now, it's too slow for me and toolkit can easily do it [14:51:31] if i want to use cirrus though, i would do in php [14:51:49] but that too could be java [15:05:20] Tobi_WMDE_SW_NA: the gadget seems ok now [15:05:57] think my issues in firefox only happen when i have firebug open and because it's warning me about bazillion deprecated things (e.g. in TimedMediaHandler) [15:20:48] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, 10Wikidata, 7I18n: wikibase-after-page-move-queued shows up in English on nlwiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91250#1078186 (10Sjoerddebruin) @hoo, any idea why I couldn't find that translation with the translatewiki.net search function? [15:23:45] 10Wikidata, 10§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-02-25, 7Performance: Migrate all relevant Lua modules from mw.wikibase.getEntity to mw.wikibase.getEntityObject - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88950#1078201 (10Lucie) Wohoo! Done! I changed all Modules used more than 10 times. Except for the protected ones. I have a... [15:30:35] 10Wikidata, 10§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-02-25, 7Performance: Migrate all relevant Lua modules from mw.wikibase.getEntity to mw.wikibase.getEntityObject - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88950#1078207 (10Lucie) Also, if we could have the Lua Modules somehow globally would be awsome. Easier to maintain and eve... [15:39:53] 10Wikidata, 10VisualEditor: Visual Editor does not work well on Wikidata:Project chat - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91252#1078240 (10Jdforrester-WMF) > Can visual editor add support for these things? Sure. I estimate 1–2 years' time. > If not, is there a way to disable visual editor on particular page... [15:42:20] * aude rage at Lydia_WMDE :) [15:43:00] (03CR) 10Henning Snater: "I do not think that the listview should be created in non-edit mode when there are no qualifiers as that may result in styling issues as w" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/193565 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87858) (owner: 10Aude) [15:50:54] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: wikidata qunit test on labs-vagrant have errors - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90459#1078288 (10JanZerebecki) 5Open>3Invalid a:3JanZerebecki This seems to have vanished after updating the git repos. [15:54:29] 10Wikidata, 10§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-02-25, 7Performance: Migrate all relevant Lua modules from mw.wikibase.getEntity to mw.wikibase.getEntityObject - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88950#1078296 (10Ricordisamoa) >>! In T88950#1078207, @Lucie wrote: > Also, if we could have the Lua Modules somehow global... [15:56:26] 10Wikidata, 10VisualEditor: Visual Editor does not work well on Wikidata:Project chat - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91252#1078304 (10aude) wonder how edits like https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata%3AProject_chat&diff=200207987&oldid=200207707 are made in visual editor? particularly signi... [15:59:47] (03CR) 10Aude: "agree, not initializing is better. if we go with that approach, then authority control needs to be further adapted in order to continue t" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/193565 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87858) (owner: 10Aude) [16:00:02] 10Wikidata, 10VisualEditor: Visual Editor does not work well on Wikidata:Project chat - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91252#1078315 (10Jdforrester-WMF) >>! In T91252#1078304, @aude wrote: > wonder how edits like https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata%3AProject_chat&diff=200207987&oldid=200207... [16:00:47] 10Wikidata, 10VisualEditor: Visual Editor does not work well on Wikidata:Project chat - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91252#1078318 (10aude) ah, ok :) [16:01:12] (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Re-add hour:minute:second support to PhpDateTimeParser [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/193833 [16:07:15] Tobi_WMDE_SW_NA: http://wikidata.beta.wmflabs.org/w/api.php?action=wbavailablebadges [16:12:43] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): ""Be safe"? Why? Why should I re-implement the TimeValue validation here? This is not a validator. This is a details formatter, used in dif" (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/192544 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [16:13:36] 10Wikidata, 10VisualEditor: VisualEditor does not work well on Wikidata:Project chat - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91252#1078342 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Low [16:23:47] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): "Just discussed this in the Wikidata team. Main reason: MediaWiki core also allows mailto: by default." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/193669 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91069) (owner: 10Gerrit Patch Uploader) [16:26:54] (03CR) 10JanZerebecki: [C: 032] Add mailto to the allowed URL schemas [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/193669 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91069) (owner: 10Gerrit Patch Uploader) [16:28:33] [13Time] 15thiemowmde 04force-pushed 06isoParser from 14ea725e5 to 14139e8d3: 02http://git.io/xEsT [16:28:33] 13Time/06isoParser 14139e8d3 15Thiemo Mättig: Rename TimeParser to IsoTimestampParser [16:30:23] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add mailto to the allowed URL schemas [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/193669 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91069) (owner: 10Gerrit Patch Uploader) [16:31:21] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Special:MergeItems should report all conflicts at once - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91210#1078431 (10Addshore) Briefly looking at the code the issue lies in the API module. Currently exceptions are thrown in each of the methods contained in the lin... [16:34:36] 10Wikidata: External property links break in Chrome - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89259#1078446 (10JanZerebecki) Integrating this functionality properly into formating might be even better. But that should not prevent small improvements. [16:34:55] Tobi_WMDE_SW_NA: still around? [16:35:00] [13Time] 15thiemowmde 04force-pushed 06isoParser from 14139e8d3 to 14b493b57: 02http://git.io/xEsT [16:35:00] 13Time/06isoParser 14b493b57 15Thiemo Mättig: Rename TimeParser to IsoTimestampParser [16:35:26] somehow i am getting served old js (sometimes?) on beta [16:35:27] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 10§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-02-25, 7Easy, 5Patch-For-Review: Data Type URL should accept mail links - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91069#1078455 (10JanZerebecki) 5Open>3Resolved [16:35:29] 725:'//commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:$1' [16:35:31] etc [16:35:46] which would not make the gadget work [16:36:17] if i do debug=true, then maybe the modules go in my local storage and the gadget works after [16:42:36] [13Time] 15thiemowmde closed pull request #38: Drop dead code from TimeFormatter (06master...06timeIsoFormatter) 02http://git.io/AozG [16:44:29] [13Time] 15thiemowmde created 06timeIsoFormatter2 (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/xE4n [16:44:29] 13Time/06timeIsoFormatter2 144f758dc 15Thiemo Mättig: Fix broken OPT_TIME_ISO_FORMATTER [16:44:44] [13Time] 15thiemowmde opened pull request #40: Fix broken OPT_TIME_ISO_FORMATTER (06master...06timeIsoFormatter2) 02http://git.io/xE4a [16:48:20] [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15WMDE-Fisch pushed 1 new commit to 06time_T88542: 02http://git.io/xERi [16:48:20] 13WikidataBrowserTests/06time_T88542 14dd4f7ce 15WMDE-Fisch: changed visibility asserts to "should be_visible" [16:49:07] (03CR) 10Aude: "we'll have to ensure authority control gadget is adapted for this change" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/190799 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87759) (owner: 10Henning Snater) [16:49:33] [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15WMDE-Fisch comment on commit 14dd4f7ce: even better I guess :-) 02http://git.io/xE0B [16:50:00] [13Time] 15thiemowmde comment on pull request #33 14176fa98: Comment what? Come on, reading code is not *that* hard. 02http://git.io/xE09 [16:50:35] [13Time] 15thiemowmde comment on pull request #33 14176fa98: Completely unrelated to this patch. Please open a ticket to discuss this. 02http://git.io/xEEW [16:52:15] [13Time] 15thiemowmde comment on pull request #33 14176fa98: This discussion should not happen in this patch. Please open a ticket if you think this should change. However, I disagree. As @Jc3s5h pointed out the ISO norm does this by truncating the timestamp string. We do this with our "precision" field. Everything behind is meaningless and must be ignored. In the end it doesn't matter if month and day are "01", "00" or "**". I'm voting for [16:53:11] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Create a Wikibase glossary - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72763#1078501 (10Snaterlicious) 5declined>3Open @Lydia_Pintscher: Are you the Product Manager of Wikibase or Wikidata, of both or none of them? Excuse me, but the decision to decline the... [16:56:36] [13Time] 15thiemowmde 04force-pushed 06pad4Year from 14176fa98 to 140c602c3: 02http://git.io/AZK1 [16:56:36] 13Time/06pad4Year 142e213d3 15Thiemo Mättig: Enforce minimal year padding to 4 digits [16:56:36] 13Time/06pad4Year 1431fc6b9 15Thiemo Mättig: Simplify data providers [16:56:36] 13Time/06pad4Year 140c602c3 15Thiemo Mättig: Update docs [16:57:41] [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15zeljkofilipin comment on commit 14dd4f7ce: This is old RSpec 2 "should" syntax. New RSpec 3 "expect" sytax is preferred. For example:... 02http://git.io/xEai [17:00:28] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: Create a Wikibase glossary - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72763#1078525 (10Lydia_Pintscher) I made that decision and we can discuss this further in person after your vacation. [17:01:21] Lydia_WMDE: stop being so managerial :p [17:01:34] 10Wikidata: Travis failure for mysql + hhvm due to DBConnectionError - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90178#1078528 (10greg) [17:01:44] JohnFLewis: managers gonna manager [17:01:45] :P [17:01:48] 10Wikidata: Travis failure for mysql + hhvm due to DBConnectionError - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90178#1053706 (10greg) (Wikimedia RelEng doesn't support Travis) [17:02:00] :p [17:03:21] 10Wikibase-DataModel-Serialization, 10Wikidata: Empty JSON maps serialized as empty lists in XML dumps - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91117#1078535 (10JanZerebecki) Related to T73349 which was opened for the JSON dump. [17:03:43] greg-g: :( [17:03:59] * aude wants mysql + hhvm to run on jenkins then [17:04:30] [13Time] 15thiemowmde comment on pull request #27 14b5274cc: As the comment says: Either the first number is a year for sure (which is only the case if it's bigger than 59) or the "T" part is present. Incomplete ISO strings like these can be a time or in an order different from YMD. We have an other parser for such cases. A more obvious example may be "12-11-10". I'm using 59 as a limit instead of 31 just to be on the safe side. 02http://g [17:04:55] [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15WMDE-Fisch pushed 1 new commit to 06time_T88542: 02http://git.io/xEKs [17:04:55] 13WikidataBrowserTests/06time_T88542 14021a40c 15WMDE-Fisch: changed visibility back to "expect" and "to be_visible" [17:05:29] [13Time] 15thiemowmde comment on pull request #27 14b5274cc: I see what you mean, but I will not fix this issue in this patch. Let's create a ticket and fix this later. 02http://git.io/xEKV [17:06:28] aude: We can't support Travis, sorry. [17:06:46] [13Time] 15thiemowmde comment on pull request #27 14b5274cc: Erm, sorry? What is "2015"? This doesn't even remotely resembles an ISO string. How is that clearer? 02http://git.io/xE60 [17:07:06] greg-g: somewhat scary we don't have mysql + hhvm tests on jenkins [17:07:28] hopefully a volunteer will fix the tests [17:07:49] [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15WMDE-Fisch comment on commit 14021a40c: Now I've got it. Wont work without underscore. :-) ... 02http://git.io/xEiC [17:07:53] 10Wikibase-DataModel-Serialization, 10Wikidata: Empty JSON maps serialized as empty lists in XML dumps - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91117#1078551 (10JanZerebecki) Quoting @daniel from wikidata-l@lists > Actually... the XML dump should already be using the new code. The same code in > fact that generate... [17:08:50] [13Time] 15thiemowmde comment on pull request #27 14b5274cc: This is an ISO parser. It's not a year parser. It's not a month-year parser. We have specific parsers for all these cases. This should not be re-implemented here. 02http://git.io/xEPe [17:10:40] aude: (serious) is there a bug requesting that? [17:10:47] [13Time] 15thiemowmde comment on pull request #27 14b5274cc: 0 means "undefined". Simple. I always wondered why you are wrapping your head around this. There is no problem here. 02http://git.io/xEXn [17:11:14] greg-g: there is [17:11:30] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T37912 [17:14:19] [13Time] 15thiemowmde comment on pull request #27 14b5274cc: I'm not changing this behavior in this patch. If it's an issue we should open a ticket. 02http://git.io/xEMu [17:15:11] [13Time] 15thiemowmde comment on pull request #27 14b5274cc: It does exactly what the comment says. What's the problem?... 02http://git.io/xEMh [17:16:20] [13Time] 15thiemowmde comment on pull request #27 14b5274cc: That's a special case, not touched and not relevant to this patch. Please open a ticket. 02http://git.io/xEDi [17:16:50] [13Time] 15thiemowmde comment on pull request #27 14b5274cc: That's a special case, not touched and not relevant to this patch. Please open a ticket. 02http://git.io/xEyk [17:21:00] a930913: you can from the API, but not from the DB yet [17:21:45] a930913: or rather, not without parsing the content of Q42 first [18:03:59] 10Wikidata, 10MobileFrontend - Feature Requests: Wikidata PageBanner extension - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77925#1078790 (10Jdlrobson) @Wrh2 this would be the hope. The only remaining question here seems to be how to override the Wikidata property. Where would such a value get stored (note this extens... [18:04:23] 10Wikidata, 10MobileFrontend - Feature Requests: Wikidata PageBanner extension - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77925#1078791 (10Jdlrobson) cc @Kaldari @qgil this seems like a good GSoc project to me. What are your thoughts? [18:13:37] 10Wikidata, 10MobileFrontend - Feature Requests: Wikidata PageBanner extension - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77925#1078830 (10Wrh2) >>! In T77925#1078790, @Jdlrobson wrote: > @Wrh2 this would be the hope. > The only remaining question here seems to be how to override the Wikidata property. Where would s... [18:28:18] DanielK_WMDE: any progress in reviewing that patch? [18:29:23] SMalyshev: haven't seen him around today (on irc) [18:29:41] but think he wanted to spend time on it friday, on his way home [18:29:45] aude: aha, thanks [18:29:50] he's here tomorrow, afaik [18:40:45] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 7Need-volunteer: Create a special page to query for badges - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72209#1078948 (10He7d3r) This is still blocking the removal of the templates from some wikis. See: * [[https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Contact_the_deve... [18:41:39] 10Wikidata, 10VisualEditor: VisualEditor does not work well on Wikidata:Project chat - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91252#1078961 (10matmarex) As for signatures, there's a gadget available: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Matma_Rex/visualeditor-signature.js. No promises, but it was working last time... [18:47:08] (03PS2) 10Smalyshev: Add RDR serializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/193547 [18:49:55] [13Number] 15JanZerebecki pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/xu1d [18:49:55] 13Number/06master 1474eaa90 15Jan Zerebecki: Merge pull request #21 from DataValues/UnitFromOptions... [18:50:45] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: suggestions cut off if I am adding a statement at the bottom of the page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90897#1079007 (10FriedhelmW) What is the expected behaviour? [19:03:57] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: suggestions cut off if I am adding a statement at the bottom of the page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90897#1079076 (10Lydia_Pintscher) I think we should look at what is done in other places in such cases. One thing I know some other sites do is si... [19:08:30] so I loaded the dump from wikidatawiki-20141106-pages-articles.xml.bz into the database, but not I get this problem: [19:09:22] there's wb_entity_per_page table and it's not part of the dump [19:10:18] SMalyshev: http://dumps.wikimedia.org/wikidatawiki/20150207/ [19:10:23] you could try these [19:10:42] aude: which one of these? [19:10:52] or there is a script to rebuild it, though not sure it works when loading just the revisions fromt he dump [19:10:59] wb_entity_per_page.sql [19:11:16] hmm... would it work with 2014 dump? [19:11:21] hm [19:11:32] how old? [19:11:58] 20141106 [19:12:03] do you actually have pages for the items? [19:12:14] I've loaded wikidatawiki-20141106-pages-articles.xml.bz [19:12:26] http://dumps.wikimedia.org/wikidatawiki/20141106/ [19:13:20] SMalyshev: daniel was on sickleave today. should be back tomorrow and have a look at the patch [19:13:42] Lydia_WMDE: ok, thanks [19:15:45] !admin [19:15:54] Dragonfly6-7: yes? [19:15:58] Hello hello [19:16:06] wait, hold on [19:16:23] just instructed the other user to join this channel [19:16:26] there we go [19:16:27] hi [19:16:32] hi [19:16:34] so, this is about the wikidata page on.... [19:16:36] let me see [19:16:39] "Angel Haze", right? [19:16:43] yes [19:16:54] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2377185 Raeen Ross, stage name "Angel Haze" [19:17:00] and the thing about Angel Haze is [19:17:10] they're publicly identified as 'androgynous' [19:17:13] nongendered [19:17:22] the term is agender [19:17:28] my mistake. Agender. [19:17:44] and Mikaela has pointed out to me that the wikidata page on Angel Haze says "female" [19:18:02] and that this page has been changed to "agender" in the past, and reverted to "female" [19:18:07] https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q2377185&diff=199758244&oldid=199500418 [19:18:17] Dragonfly6-7: we should have the two values if "female" was once true or if sources said "female" [19:18:25] we can have both [19:18:39] that ^ [19:18:43] to me this page says that they were marked as agender and there was reference URL to their Twitter saying that they are agender. What is put in place of it is female and imported from German Wikipedia [19:18:48] and it should be referenced [19:19:01] mm [19:19:22] Mikaela - something like this? [19:19:22] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q298423 [19:20:16] wikipedia looks more worse and worse the longer you look at it [19:20:23] Mikaela - in what way? [19:20:50] nevermind, I am not going to hurt myself this way [19:21:40] * Dragonfly6-7 sighs [19:21:45] well, it's a valid point anyway. [19:21:49] we could use a deprecated walue [19:21:55] how so? [19:22:11] Dragonfly6-7: add the new value and makr female as 'deprecated' :) [19:22:19] if one is used in references but aren't true anymore [19:22:22] .... oh, ha ha. [19:22:27] isn't* [19:23:07] if they are agender now but old sources said female, wikidata should have both, with references, but the old one should be deprecated [19:23:31] That sounds reasonable and fair to me. [19:23:42] I'm not 100% sure how tht would be done [19:24:30] can I inveigle you into doing it for me? [19:24:51] Dragonfly6-7: is there a verifiable/reliable reference for this? (major question) [19:25:22] checking [19:26:05] Dragonfly6-7: when you had a value you three little square at the right, settled on the central square ("normal" value), you can use the high square ("preferred" value) or the bottom square ("deprecated" value) [19:26:31] ah, here [19:26:33] https://twitter.com/AngelHaze/status/567432462406393856 [19:26:51] and either way, we need sources (but for a "normal" and not "preferred" value) I would personnally accept a personal declaration, but that's me [19:27:37] Dragonfly6-7: I'll use the Wikipedia source + that one just back it up. Let me add it now [19:29:42] Dragonfly6-7: {{done}} [19:29:46] thank you [19:30:55] although what we can do about the German label "Rapperin", I don't know. [19:34:57] Thank you for helping, JohnLewis and Harmonia_Amanda [19:37:56] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata: suggestions cut off if I am adding a statement at the bottom of the page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90897#1079183 (10FriedhelmW) When I type "i", the list is higher than my screen, so that won't help in this case. [19:39:01] (03CR) 10JanZerebecki: [C: 04-1] "See inline comment." (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/192986 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [20:00:24] (03PS3) 10Smalyshev: Add RDR serializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/193547 [20:03:31] is the dump script supposed to be slow (like 1 entity/sec) or am I doing something very wrong? [20:27:37] 10Wikidata, 10dev.wikimedia.org, 3ECT-February-2015: Showcase/inspire: Mobile page description from Wikidata - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88409#1079504 (10Spage) In progress at [[ https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Page_info_in_search_results | API:Page info in search results]] I made API improvemen... [20:35:43] aude: I can't get at the precisions of any of the dates on Q23 because I can't edit them.... [20:36:52] sjoerddebruin: https://tools.wmflabs.org/family/ancestors.php?q=Q1470&lang=en&level=10 <- eindelijk Escher gedaan :-) [20:37:01] :D [20:37:19] manybubbles: what? [20:37:24] Hi manybubbles, I was meaning to ask you something. We index coordinates in the search engine, do we do anything with that index? [20:37:32] * aude can't view the item, of course, in chrome [20:37:33] Krijgt het trouwens nog wel een strakker design, multichill? :) [20:37:59] You'll never know. This was hacked up in about 2 hours [20:38:26] It feels so outdated... Don't know why. [20:38:29] manybubbles: did you log in? [20:38:41] aude: yeah [20:38:54] multichill: you mean like the geo extension? [20:39:04] try again [20:39:19] this is yet another bug, though the fix is in gerrit [20:39:42] manybubbles: On https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorpskerk_%28Bloemendaal%29?action=cirrusdump I see coordinates [20:39:49] Any way to search that? [20:40:01] multichill: its in the geo extension but I don't know too too much about it [20:40:30] I know you're getting the data from the geo extension, but are you also indexing this in cirrus? [20:41:05] multichill: geo is what adds coordinates to cirrus [20:41:24] aude: Yes, I understand that part. That's the input, I'm talking about the output! [20:41:41] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:CirrusSearch contains all sorts of info how to improve your search engine, but nothing about coordinates [20:41:45] ah, that's also geo afaik [20:42:02] adds the fields to cirrus [20:43:20] then https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=help&modules=query%2Bgeosearch [20:44:01] I know how the geodata extension works. That's the source of data. Forget about that. That's all mysql based [20:44:12] it gets put into elastic [20:44:13] I want to know if that data is indexed in cirrus and how to access that [20:44:28] yes and with geosearch [20:44:40] i don't think it's all mysql anymore [20:45:00] No, forget geosearch [20:45:05] That's all geodata extension [20:45:14] I want to know how to do it pure search engine [20:45:35] ApiQueryGeoSearchElastic [20:45:42] ah [20:46:54] GeoData is just a temporary hack because no structured metadata was available. This should be core search engine functionality [20:47:01] * multichill tries to wake up manybubbles [20:47:20] sorry - on phone [20:47:38] multichill: i know.... [20:48:13] BBOX search would be a very nice feature [20:51:24] afaik, cirrus allows a subset of all the options elastic provides (e.g. for security/performance reasons) [20:51:37] transforms the params into the actual search... [20:52:14] since geodata feeds this data, it would make sense that it could hook into the searching part of cirrus [20:52:19] and add something [20:52:37] don't see it implemented yet but i could be missing something, for sure [20:56:10] back [20:56:15] ok, reading backscroll [20:57:50] aude and multichill: yes - its certainly possible. I believe Cirrus has hooks to allow users to create more of the silly incategory: type operators [20:58:01] so you could make in inboundbox: thing [20:58:11] or inshape or whatever else is supported by elasticsearch's geo [21:05:36] 10Wikidata, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ContentTranslation, 5ContentTranslation-Release4, 3LE-Sprint-83: Link translated articles with other languages through Wikidata automatically - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87410#1079677 (10Amire80) @hoo, thanks for offering help. I plan to work on it this week. T... [21:13:52] 10Wikidata, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ContentTranslation, 5ContentTranslation-Release4, 3LE-Sprint-83: Link translated articles with other languages through Wikidata automatically - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87410#1079769 (10hoo) Hi, I don't have a lot of time today (actually I'm not working the whol... [21:14:48] 10Wikidata, 10dev.wikimedia.org, 3ECT-February-2015: Showcase/inspire: Mobile page description from Wikidata - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88409#1079782 (10Spage) 5Open>3Resolved Claiming victory on this though I'll continue to work on it as the tech for linking to sandbox refines, and it needs re... [21:19:23] manybubbles: Now I was distracted. Does geo search in elastic perform good? [21:20:37] multichill: pretty good, yeah. you can do some complex stuff and it'll be reasonably well indexed. [21:21:01] Ok, maybe a phab bug to discus what we would like to pull from the search? [21:21:20] I can imagine point by distance and bounding box [21:22:20] sure - we plan to have a search team to help with all this [21:37:16] 10Wikidata, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ContentTranslation, 5ContentTranslation-Release4, 3LE-Sprint-83: Link translated articles with other languages through Wikidata automatically - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87410#1079888 (10Amire80) Thanks! ContentTranslation is developed mostly with Wikipedia in m... [21:57:54] aude: do you know how fast the php dumper is supposed to be? [22:02:08] SMalyshev: hoo would know better [22:03:13] hoo doesn't seem to be here [22:03:17] yeah [22:03:29] i wouldn't be suprised if it's not terribly fast [22:03:41] but probably are settings and things to do to improve it [22:03:46] like sharding [22:10:13] aude: but the dumps that we have online aren't sharded, right? [22:10:40] right now I'm getting something like 1-2 entities/second. Which is pretty bad [22:15:48] (03PS4) 10Smalyshev: Add RDR serializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/193547 [22:16:53] (03PS5) 10Smalyshev: Add RDR serializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/193547 [22:23:16] SMalyshev: they are sharded [22:23:24] i mean during processing [22:23:35] 1-2 per second sounds terrible :( [22:25:14] aude: yeah so I'm trying to figure out what's wrong - is it RDF serializer that sucks or something wrong on the vm [22:25:27] so having baseline would be great - like how fast is the json one [22:25:50] shards=4 [22:26:10] it might be a combination of all 3 ... don't know [22:27:38] if you use EntityRevisionLookup, make sure it's not caching stuff [22:28:48] aude: if it's shareded how they are joined? just by appending pieces? [22:29:02] (that may explain why the numbers are not consequential) [22:29:22] and properties appear in random places... [22:29:55] aude: I didn;'t change anything there but I can check that, thanks. [22:29:57] SMalyshev: i think by appending [22:30:09] that's how the ids get out of order [22:30:43] in dumpJson.php it does WikibaseRepo::getDefaultInstance()->getStore()->getEntityRevisionLookup( 'uncached' ); [22:30:51] we had performance problems otherwise [22:33:04] ahhhhh json [22:42:45] (03PS6) 10Smalyshev: Add RDR serializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/193547 [22:51:11] 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, 10Wikidata, 7Easy, 7Need-volunteer: wbmergeitems adds alias when a duplicate label / alias already existed on target item - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91327#1080262 (10Addshore) 3NEW [22:51:38] ohia all! [22:52:53] aude: yes, RDF one uses the same lookup [22:52:54] addshore: hi. [22:59:26] aude: there may be a problem with non-cached one though... we also use it to look up properties [22:59:32] and properties need to be cached [23:00:02] I.e. I get tons of lookups for P properties [23:00:02] [Wikibase\Lib\Store\WikiPageEntityRevisionLookup] loadRevisionRow: try to load P582 with slave from DB_MASTER. [23:00:03] [Wikibase\Lib\Store\WikiPageEntityRevisionLookup] selectRevisionRow: Looking up latest revision of P582 [23:00:03] Q [23:28:43] is there any way to load data from JSON dump back into the wiki DB? [23:29:00] or, alternatively, filter XML dump by entity name [23:48:45] (03PS7) 10Smalyshev: Add RDR serializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/193547