[02:45:27] <Irunongames>	 Noob here - I have multiple APIs that I think should be ported over to Wikidata - What should I do?
[03:17:51] <legoktm>	 Irunongames: hi! which APIs?
[03:19:23] <Irunongames>	 https://www.fema.gov/data-feeds/openfema-dataset-disaster-declarations-summaries-v1
[03:20:52] <legoktm>	 oh, I suppose you should talk to the people who run those APIs and let them know about Wikidata?
[03:21:37] <Peter-C>	 It's federal so I was not sure if I needed to or not.
[03:22:15] * legoktm has no idea
[03:22:23] * legoktm afk dinner
[07:33:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Henning Snater: "Like! Just ranting about documentation once again." (035 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188357 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87434) (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[08:02:16] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15adrianheine 04deleted 06renaming_t50139 at 14d0d7c23: 02http://git.io/AtIT
[08:04:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: [C: 032] statementview: Allow adding qualifiers when adding a statement [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/189936 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[08:06:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: [C: 032] referenceview: Removed internal listview caching [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/190442 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[08:08:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: statementview: Allow adding qualifiers when adding a statement [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/189936 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[08:08:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: referenceview: Removed internal listview caching [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/190442 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[08:16:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Henning Snater: referenceview: Using listview.value() [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/190443 
[08:16:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Henning Snater: referenceview: Updated documentation [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/190452 
[08:16:17] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Henning Snater: referenceview: Refactored value() [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/190453 
[08:16:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Henning Snater: referenceview: Removed internal caching of initial values [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/190456 
[08:16:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Henning Snater: Updated entityview - itemview/propertyview relationship [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/190782 
[08:16:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Henning Snater: Edit References along with Statement [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/190799 
[08:24:42] <wikibugs>	 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-02-03, Wikidata: Remove time conversion logic from JavaScript code - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89243#1049173 (10Snaterlicious) https://github.com/wmde/DataValuesJavascript/pull/61
[08:25:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: Introduce wikibase.view.ViewFactory (037 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188357 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87434) (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[08:25:49] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS6) 10Adrian Lang: Introduce wikibase.view.ViewFactory [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188357 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87434) 
[08:41:37] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata, Mobile-Web: Mobile version of Dutch Wikisource doesn't list other language version. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89566#1049212 (10Lydia_Pintscher)
[08:41:38] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata: Wikidata changes do not propagate to siteinfo api call - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89903#1049213 (10Lydia_Pintscher)
[09:09:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: Add WikibaseView skeleton (034 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188356 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[09:11:15] <sjoerddebruin>	 Can somebody patrol these translations? https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?limit=50&tagfilter=&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=87.17.107.16&namespace=&tagfilter=&newOnly=1&year=2015&month=-1
[09:15:04] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Special:NewItem doesn't say in what language the label and description would be - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86673#1049242 (10Sjoerddebruin) Seems like instructions are not clear enough sadly. Nothing we can do about it. https://www.wikidata.org/w/index...
[09:19:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: "I was talking about checkForUnintentionallyCoveredCode, because only that shows me how big the units are. I think adding @uses annotations" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191054 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[09:20:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Adrian Lang: Edit References along with Statement [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/190799 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87759) (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[09:23:24] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: [C: 032] referenceview: Using listview.value() [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/190443 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[09:24:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: [C: 032] referenceview: Refactored value() [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/190453 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[09:24:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: [C: 032] referenceview: Removed internal caching of initial values [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/190456 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[09:25:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: [C: 032] Updated entityview - itemview/propertyview relationship [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/190782 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[09:25:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: referenceview: Using listview.value() [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/190443 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[09:34:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Henning Snater: referenceview: Updated documentation [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/190452 
[09:36:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] referenceview: Updated documentation [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/190452 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[09:53:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Adrian Lang: Fix property name in WikibaseContentLanguages [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191559 
[10:02:44] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata, Mobile-Web: Wikidata changes do not propagate to siteinfo api call - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89903#1049309 (10Florian)
[10:15:39] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata: RDF mapping should not assert that .../entity/Q123 is-a Wikidata item - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89949#1049339 (10daniel) 3NEW
[10:17:09] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata: RDF mapping should not assert that .../entity/Q123 is-a Wikidata item - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89949#1049349 (10daniel)
[10:25:33] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata: RDF mapping should not assert that .../entity/Q123 is-a Wikidata item - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89949#1049355 (10daniel)
[10:35:05] <lazowik>	 hey
[10:35:49] <lazowik>	 Sorry, my bad for not searching the phab and not finding this before reporting: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89566
[10:38:56] <Lydia_WMDE>	 lazowik: don't worry :)
[10:39:03] <Lydia_WMDE>	 it was closed already so hard to find anyway
[10:39:19] <lazowik>	 anyways, I think it's not a single-case thing
[10:39:39] <lazowik>	 the example I gave there was a first link edit that I found
[10:39:46] <lazowik>	 and it was broken
[10:39:58] <lazowik>	 are you aware of any recently deployed changes to dispatching?
[10:41:09] <Lydia_WMDE>	 yeah it might have been broken with the usage tracking changes
[10:41:18] <sjoerddebruin>	 It was broken before that.
[10:41:18] <Lydia_WMDE>	 we'll definitely need to investigate further
[10:41:24] <Lydia_WMDE>	 really?
[10:41:26] <Lydia_WMDE>	 mpfh
[10:41:27] <Lydia_WMDE>	 ok
[10:41:57] <sjoerddebruin>	 How many times did I say here that pages in https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorie:Wikipedia:Commonscat_zonder_link_op_Wikidata#mw-pages needed a null edit before they disappear from the list?
[10:42:12] <Lydia_WMDE>	 you did 
[10:42:29] <Lydia_WMDE>	 i just wasn't sure if this was before or after deploying usage tracking
[10:42:44] <sjoerddebruin>	 I think Lua relies on the same thing...
[10:42:51] <sjoerddebruin>	 (like mobile interwiki's)
[10:42:58] <Lydia_WMDE>	 ok
[10:43:04] <sjoerddebruin>	 Don't know sure.
[10:44:49] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata, Mobile-Web: Wikidata changes do not propagate to siteinfo api call - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89903#1049369 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5High>3Unbreak!
[10:47:41] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata, Mobile-Web: Wikidata changes do not propagate to siteinfo api call - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89903#1049378 (10hoo) a:5Wikidata-bugs>3hoo Investigating
[10:47:54] <hoo>	 Lydia_WMDE: Already on that
[10:48:05] <Lydia_WMDE>	 hoo: awesome
[10:50:28] <hoo>	 Ok, I can reproduce it
[10:52:58] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata, Project-Creators, Team-Practices: Create "time-bomb" tag - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75893#1049391 (10Lydia_Pintscher) Right. We don't want to encourage timebombs. But we do have them. And being able to tag them would help a lot.
[10:54:12] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata, wikidata-query-service: Provide SPARQL endpoint for Wikidata data - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T73813#1049394 (10Lydia_Pintscher)
[10:55:58] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Create a Wikibase glossary - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72763#1049397 (10Lydia_Pintscher) 5Open>3declined a:3Lydia_Pintscher We should not maintain our own but instead help get the community maintained one in better shape.
[10:56:31] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, § Wikidata-Sprint-2015-02-03, Wikidata: UI should get list of supported languages from the backend, via dedicated resource loader module - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78007#1049400 (10adrianheine) I'm wondering how to best implement this. One goal would be to not...
[10:56:43] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS16) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Added Special page to set label, description and aliases at once [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187423 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72174) (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[10:56:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Added Special page to set label, description and aliases at once [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187423 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72174) (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[10:59:05] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata: move git repositories that are dependencies of wikidata to gerrit - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T74907#1049406 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Low>3High
[11:01:51] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Create tests for default gadgets (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T67257#1049421 (10Lydia_Pintscher)
[11:01:52] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata: Wikidata Browsertests (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88541#1049420 (10Lydia_Pintscher)
[11:02:56] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Add Aliases Field to Special:NewItem - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T74316#1049422 (10Lydia_Pintscher)
[11:04:43] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: ability to show notification about new messages to user between edits - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T47285#1049428 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Volunteer?>3Low
[11:06:11] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Maximum function nesting level of '100' reached - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T45900#1049437 (10Lydia_Pintscher) 5Open>3declined a:3Lydia_Pintscher
[11:07:13] <lazowik>	 sjoerddebruin: how long ago did you first notice that?
[11:07:36] <sjoerddebruin>	 I think already in december/early january
[11:07:47] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata.org, Wikidata: need for all projects to have common DOI citation templates... - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T41487#1049441 (10Lydia_Pintscher) 5Open>3stalled
[11:09:00] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Wikidata repo MW API (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T41174#1049445 (10Lydia_Pintscher) 5Open>3declined a:3Lydia_Pintscher Closing as we no longer need the tracking bug for this.
[11:10:33] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Split items in Wikidata - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T40790#1049455 (10Lydia_Pintscher) 5Open>3declined a:3Lydia_Pintscher Closing this for lack of interest and viable implementation options at this point.
[11:12:02] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata, wikidata-query-service: Provide SPARQL endpoint for Wikidata data - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T73813#1049462 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Low>3Unbreak!
[11:12:09] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata, wikidata-query-service: Provide SPARQL endpoint for Wikidata data - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T73813#767803 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Unbreak!>3Low
[11:17:23] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, Wikidata: "Edit links" is sometimes misleading when there're inline langlink overrides - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T65319#1049485 (10Lydia_Pintscher) I am not sure how we can fix this. Hoo: Ideas? I am inclined to close this as wontfix because most language links are...
[11:21:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Smalyshev: Merge branch 'master' of git://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191576 
[11:21:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Smalyshev: Add compound values support [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191577 
[11:22:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Adrian Lang: Implement RDF export for items and RDF dumps (Turtle only for now) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191393 (owner: 10Smalyshev)
[11:24:33] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Display precision of coordinates in "length" units - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T57817#1049502 (10Lydia_Pintscher) Dupe of T89218?
[11:25:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Add compound values support [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191577 (owner: 10Smalyshev)
[11:25:26] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Error at offset 73 of 131 bytes in ORMTable, when updating sites table - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T56397#1049508 (10Lydia_Pintscher) 5Open>3declined a:3Lydia_Pintscher
[11:25:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Merge branch 'master' of git://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191576 (owner: 10Smalyshev)
[11:25:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Implement RDF export for items and RDF dumps (Turtle only for now) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191393 (owner: 10Smalyshev)
[11:25:49] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Abandoned) 10Smalyshev: Add compound values support [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191577 (owner: 10Smalyshev)
[11:26:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Abandoned) 10Smalyshev: Merge branch 'master' of git://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191576 (owner: 10Smalyshev)
[11:27:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Smalyshev: Implement RDF export for items and RDF dumps (Turtle only for now) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191393 
[11:29:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Implement RDF export for items and RDF dumps (Turtle only for now) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191393 (owner: 10Smalyshev)
[11:30:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Smalyshev: Implement RDF export for items and RDF dumps (Turtle only for now) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191393 
[11:31:24] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, Wikidata: inverse properties - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T51165#1049516 (10Lydia_Pintscher) 5Open>3declined a:3Lydia_Pintscher The students team is currently working on giving users hints for this and improving constraint checks for situation like this. This is...
[11:32:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Implement RDF export for items and RDF dumps (Turtle only for now) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191393 (owner: 10Smalyshev)
[11:34:29] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata, Wikibase-DataModel: create documentation of php data model - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75604#1049527 (10JanZerebecki) Thank you.
[11:39:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-1] Implement RDF export for items and RDF dumps (Turtle only for now) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191393 (owner: 10Smalyshev)
[11:39:35] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Implement RDF mapping for Claims/Statements - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T50141#1049531 (10Smalyshev) a:3Smalyshev
[11:39:50] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Implement RDF mapping for Data Types - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T53795#1049533 (10Smalyshev) a:3Smalyshev
[11:40:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10JanZerebecki: [C: 032] Fix broken @param PHPDoc tags [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191353 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[11:40:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: Implement RDF export for items and RDF dumps (Turtle only for now) (0318 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191393 (owner: 10Smalyshev)
[11:42:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix broken @param PHPDoc tags [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191353 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[11:43:18] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Smalyshev: Implement RDF export for items and RDF dumps (Turtle only for now) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191393 
[11:45:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Implement RDF export for items and RDF dumps (Turtle only for now) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191393 (owner: 10Smalyshev)
[11:52:54] <wikibugs>	 3WikibaseQueryEngine, Wikidata: performance review of WikibaseQueryEngine - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T69535#1049544 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Unbreak!>3Low
[11:52:54] <wikibugs>	 3Security-Reviews, WikibaseQueryEngine, Wikidata: security review of WikibaseQueryEngine - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T69536#1049546 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Unbreak!>3Low
[11:52:54] <wikibugs>	 3Security-Reviews, Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseQuery: security review of WikibaseQuery - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T69533#1049548 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Unbreak!>3Low
[11:52:54] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseQuery: performance review of WikibaseQuery - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T69534#1049550 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Unbreak!>3Low
[12:01:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS6) 10Smalyshev: Implement RDF export for items and RDF dumps (Turtle only for now) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191393 
[12:02:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Smalyshev: "Please see my comments under patch 1" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191393 (owner: 10Smalyshev)
[12:02:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Smalyshev: Implement RDF export for items and RDF dumps (Turtle only for now) (0312 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191393 (owner: 10Smalyshev)
[12:04:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Implement RDF export for items and RDF dumps (Turtle only for now) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191393 (owner: 10Smalyshev)
[12:05:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10JanZerebecki: [C: 032] "Even though we are not that good at it, I think we agreed to write unit tests. Anyone who disagrees please speak to me." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191054 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[12:07:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Add @uses annotations for View tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191054 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[12:10:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: "recheck" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191054 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[12:15:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: [C: 032] "per jan" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191054 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[12:17:49] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add @uses annotations for View tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191054 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[12:26:17] <icinga-wm>	 PROBLEM - check if wikidata.org dispatch lag is higher than 2 minutes on wikidata is CRITICAL: HTTP CRITICAL: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - pattern not found - 1472 bytes in 0.380 second response time  
[12:27:22] <addshore>	 :O
[12:40:31] <hoo-phone>	 addshore, stop restoring pagey
[12:40:36] <hoo-phone>	 ASAP
[12:40:47] <addshore>	 the list is nearly done! I promise! :)
[12:40:52] <hoo-phone>	 Freaks out dispatching
[12:41:07] <addshore>	 it should start going down any second!
[12:41:21] <hoo-phone>	 Not about going down
[12:41:31] <hoo-phone>	 The old timestamps confuse it
[12:41:35] <hoo-phone>	 Just stop
[12:42:12] <addshore>	 that sounds like a bug!
[12:42:22] <hoo-phone>	 Indeed
[12:43:17] <sjoerddebruin>	 Btw, can we run a bot that checks for patterns in deletions, restores them and changes them in a redirect?
[12:44:02] <addshore>	 checks for patterns ?
[12:44:19] <addshore>	 sjoerddebruin: I already have a script for that! More than happy to turn it into a but that runs hourly if you want
[12:44:21] <hoo-phone>	 Im out, we're having food
[12:44:29] <hoo-phone>	 Just be careful for now
[12:49:42] <travis-ci>	 wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/b5300f3 : jenkins-bot The build was broken. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/51364452
[12:56:57] <addshore>	 sjoerddebruin: right now I'll just keep manually running it every now and again
[12:57:12] <sjoerddebruin>	 But there is a huge backlog. ;)
[12:57:25] <addshore>	 yeh, well, I'm running it over all changes
[12:57:35] <addshore>	 *all deletion logs*
[12:57:37] <addshore>	 currently at 2014-10-27T15:40:27Z
[12:58:39] <addshore>	 there is a bug stopping lots of them though, ie, can create redirects on deleted items
[12:59:02] <addshore>	 which means to create a redirect the item must first be restored, but items cant be restored if they have sitelinks used on other item! :P
[12:59:20] <Peter-C>	 Can someone help me? Trying to propose a property, have no idea what I am doing.
[13:00:34] <addshore>	 hoo: was there a bug open for what you mentioned? :)
[13:26:18] <icinga-wm>	 RECOVERY - check if wikidata.org dispatch lag is higher than 2 minutes on wikidata is OK: HTTP OK: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - 1445 bytes in 0.186 second response time  
[13:49:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Major rewrite of SpecialSetLabelDescriptionAliases [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191570 
[13:49:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Major rewrite of SpecialSetLabelDescriptionAliases [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191570 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[13:50:01] <hoo>	 addshore: No... but I'll probably fix that later on
[13:50:12] <hoo>	 there's another even more important thing broken
[13:55:47] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Peter-C: its best to ask your specific question and see if people can help with that :)
[13:55:48] <addshore>	 :p
[13:56:55] <Peter-C>	 How does one port over a Federal API into Wikidata as a new property.
[13:57:29] <Lydia_WMDE>	 that question doesn't make sense like that ;-)
[13:57:44] <Lydia_WMDE>	 you have a website and that has identifiers that should be in wikidata?
[13:57:46] <Peter-C>	 ._.
[13:57:52] <Lydia_WMDE>	 is that what you want?
[13:57:53] <Peter-C>	 Yes.
[13:57:56] <Lydia_WMDE>	 aha!
[13:58:10] <Lydia_WMDE>	 so you want to propose a new identifier/authority control property
[13:58:26] <Lydia_WMDE>	 did you already find the property proposal page?
[13:58:30] <Peter-C>	 Yes. Attempted to do that.
[13:58:40] <Peter-C>	 When I previewed it it faileds
[13:58:41] <Lydia_WMDE>	 ok
[13:58:44] <Peter-C>	 miserably
[13:58:48] <Lydia_WMDE>	 :/
[13:58:49] <Peter-C>	 Kept throwing errors.
[13:58:52] <Lydia_WMDE>	 ok
[13:59:38] <Peter-C>	 Also, was advised to check the copyright issues associated with porting over data from the source
[14:00:01] <Lydia_WMDE>	 right
[14:00:02] <Peter-C>	 So before I go back and propose - is it OK to take US Federal public data and just pipe it to Wikidata?
[14:00:11] <Lydia_WMDE>	 hoo: russian wikivoyage is also affected
[14:00:27] <Lydia_WMDE>	 i need to go to a call right now
[14:00:29] <hoo>	 Lydia_WMDE: Ok... I'll just check all ru* sites later on
[14:00:32] <Lydia_WMDE>	 will get back to you later
[14:00:38] <hoo>	 ok :)
[14:06:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Manybubbles: [C: 031] Implement RDF export for items and RDF dumps (Turtle only for now) (033 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191393 (owner: 10Smalyshev)
[14:07:29] <Peter-C>	 Would I need to receive direct approval from the government agency before considering porting it to Wikidata?
[14:14:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Adrian Lang: Separate EntityIdFormatter from ValueFormatter [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/183233 
[14:14:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): New auto-summary message for SpecialSetLabelDescriptionAliases [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191592 
[14:14:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] New auto-summary message for SpecialSetLabelDescriptionAliases [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191592 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[14:17:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Fix broken/incomplete PHPDoc tags in the Summary class [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191594 
[14:17:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS7) 10Smalyshev: Implement RDF export for items and RDF dumps (Turtle only for now) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191393 
[14:19:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Schedule a LinksUpdate job if sitelinks changed [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191595 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89903) 
[14:19:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Simplify code in SpecialModifyEntity [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191596 
[14:22:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Schedule a LinksUpdate job if sitelinks changed [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191595 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89903) (owner: 10Hoo man)
[14:22:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Drop trivial SpecialModifyEntity::getSummary method [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191602 
[14:25:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: [C: 032] Simplify code in SpecialModifyEntity [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191596 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[14:26:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: [C: 032] Drop trivial SpecialModifyEntity::getSummary method [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191602 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[14:28:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Private by default in Summary class [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191603 
[14:28:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Simplify code in SpecialModifyEntity [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191596 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[14:28:33] <wikibugs>	 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-02-03, Wikidata, Mobile-Web: Wikidata changes do not propagate to siteinfo api call - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89903#1049716 (10JanZerebecki)
[14:29:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Drop trivial SpecialModifyEntity::getSummary method [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191602 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[14:31:01] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, § Wikidata-Sprint-2015-02-03, Wikidata: API function wbsetqualifier blocks frontend - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89698#1049723 (10JanZerebecki)
[14:31:25] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, § Wikidata-Sprint-2015-02-03, Wikidata: API function wbsetqualifier blocks frontend - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89698#1049724 (10JanZerebecki) a:3thiemowmde
[14:32:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: [C: 032] Fix broken/incomplete PHPDoc tags in the Summary class [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191594 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[14:34:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Make SpecialModifyEntity::addCopyrightText private [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191605 
[14:34:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix broken/incomplete PHPDoc tags in the Summary class [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191594 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[14:35:24] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: [C: 032] Private by default in Summary class [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191603 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[14:35:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Hoo man: Schedule a LinksUpdate job if sitelinks changed [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191595 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89903) 
[14:36:08] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata.org, Wikidata: Specific Wikidata Help Page without history - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T46199#1049733 (10JanZerebecki)
[14:36:41] <travis-ci>	 wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/5272b48 : Thiemo Mättig The build was fixed. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/51379049
[14:36:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: "recheck" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/190452 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[14:37:22] <lazowik>	 Lydia_WMDE: I have to bo honest
[14:37:42] <lazowik>	 do you realise that that the new sistelinks UI is *really* ugly?
[14:38:12] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Private by default in Summary class [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191603 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[14:38:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Drop unused Summary::toString method [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191606 
[14:38:54] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, Wikidata: "Edit links" is sometimes misleading when there're inline langlink overrides - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T65319#1049736 (10hoo) I'm inclined to say: wonfix: This is a rather rare edge case and coming up with a UI that makes sense for this is hard.
[14:39:14] <lazowik>	 UX-wise too, with the small input fields
[14:39:47] <Lydia_WMDE>	 lazowik: we're working on it further
[14:39:52] <Lydia_WMDE>	 it is not perfect yet i know
[14:39:53] <lazowik>	 also, what is the most recent mockup?
[14:40:26] <Lydia_WMDE>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:UI_redesign_input
[14:40:31] <lazowik>	 just some really trivial (to change) things, like, why is there a border?
[14:40:53] <lazowik>	 why the most highlighted thing is lang codes?
[14:41:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: snakview: Refactored drawing mechanism (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/189018 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88425) (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[14:42:10] <Lydia_WMDE>	 because it is nt
[14:42:13] <Lydia_WMDE>	 not finished
[14:42:33] <travis-ci>	 wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/13fe8d9 : Thiemo Mättig The build was fixed. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/51379220
[14:42:40] <lazowik>	 oh, ok
[14:43:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: [C: 032] label-/descriptionview Removed obsolete _isBeingEdited member [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/189722 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[14:43:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS8) 10Smalyshev: Implement RDF export for items and RDF dumps (Turtle only for now) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191393 
[14:44:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: [C: 032] "Same in SpecialNewEntity." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191605 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[14:44:29] <lazowik>	 Lydia_WMDE: heh, mockup has the same things (bordres, the least important things highlighted)
[14:44:53] <lazowik>	 whatever, settling down on UI is really hard
[14:44:54] <Lydia_WMDE>	 yes but without the rest being done it doesn't fit together
[14:45:08] <lazowik>	 especially when you ask people for opinion ;)
[14:45:15] <manybubbles>	 lol - Museum Open Today @ 10amnull
[14:45:31] <lazowik>	 manybubbles: :D
[14:47:12] <lazowik>	 Lydia_WMDE: last questions: that mockup is what you're implementing now (or going to)?
[14:47:31] <Lydia_WMDE>	 that's what we're aiming for
[14:47:38] <Lydia_WMDE>	 but based on feedback things will be tweaked along the way
[14:47:49] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Make SpecialModifyEntity::addCopyrightText private [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191605 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[14:48:19] <lazowik>	 and how much coding is needed for changing the UI now/will it be easier in the future?
[14:49:53] <lazowik>	 I mean, is it reasonable to expect skinning at some point in the future
[14:49:54] <lazowik>	 ?
[14:49:56] <Lydia_WMDE>	 quite a lot of work right now
[14:50:04] <Lydia_WMDE>	 because we are changin things like being able to add a source at the same time as the statement
[14:50:18] <Lydia_WMDE>	 so some pretty fundamental assumptions
[14:50:57] <lazowik>	 mhm
[14:51:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Hoo man: Generalize client's SnaksFinder [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/190809 
[14:51:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hoo man: "Manually rebased" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/190809 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[14:51:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Major rewrite of SpecialSetLabelDescriptionAliases [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191570 
[14:51:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS17) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Added Special page to set label, description and aliases at once [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187423 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72174) (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[14:51:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): New auto-summary message for SpecialSetLabelDescriptionAliases [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191592 
[14:52:19] <travis-ci>	 wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/5a0a2ba : jenkins-bot The build was fixed. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/51379937
[14:52:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Hoo man: Consolidate duplicate PropertyParserFunction/Lua code [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/189415 
[14:52:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hoo man: "Rebased" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/189415 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[14:52:49] <lazowik>	 do you have any designer on the team? or ability to consult with WMF design team?
[14:52:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Adrian Lang: Consolidate duplicate PropertyParserFunction/Lua code [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/189415 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T48160) (owner: 10Hoo man)
[14:53:26] <Lydia_WMDE>	 yes
[14:53:33] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata.org, Wikidata: Specific Wikidata Help Page without history - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T46199#1049751 (10JanZerebecki) [wikidatawiki]> select * from page where page_id = 57; +---------+----------------+------------+-------------------+--------------+------------------+-------------+------------...
[14:54:28] <lazowik>	 also, sorry for asking, you're aware of the upcoming changes to mediawiki UI?
[14:54:34] <lazowik>	 *are you
[14:54:56] <Lydia_WMDE>	 yes :)
[14:55:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS18) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Added Special page to set label, description and aliases at once [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187423 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72174) (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[14:56:09] <lazowik>	 OK, questioning is over, thank you for your cooperation
[14:56:10] <lazowik>	 :D
[14:56:28] <Lydia_WMDE>	 :P
[14:58:01] <jzerebecki>	 any admin can delete https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Test2 which is a page without attached content, see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T46199 ?
[15:01:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Added Special page to set label, description and aliases at once (039 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187423 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72174) (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[15:02:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 032] "This page still has quite a lot of issues, but it works and can be used. I'm merging this now to move things forward. Patches for the rema" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187423 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72174) (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[15:03:12] <sjoerddebruin>	 jzerebecki: https://www.dropbox.com/s/i9bdkihsyjzu4ys/Schermafdruk%202015-02-19%2016.03.09.png?dl=0
[15:03:21] <sjoerddebruin>	 But it is deleted. :/
[15:03:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Abandoned) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [WIP] Simplify SpecialSetLabelDescriptionAliases [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/189734 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[15:04:18] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata: edit button in heading overlaps alias text - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89956#1049762 (10aude)
[15:05:49] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Added Special page to set label, description and aliases at once [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187423 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72174) (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[15:07:00] <jzerebecki>	 sjoerddebruin: thank you
[15:09:14] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata.org, Wikidata: Specific Wikidata Help Page without history - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T46199#1049774 (10JanZerebecki) Deleting it created a 503 but deleted the page: {F43659} Now as we currently don't have any logs, I cant provide the actual error.
[15:09:59] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, Wikidata: "Edit links" is sometimes misleading when there're inline langlink overrides - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T65319#1049777 (10Lydia_Pintscher) 5Open>3declined a:3Lydia_Pintscher Ok. I am closing this as I don't think it causes a lot of confusion and I do...
[15:10:07] <jzerebecki>	 aude: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T46199
[15:10:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 032] Schedule a LinksUpdate job if sitelinks changed [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191595 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89903) (owner: 10Hoo man)
[15:10:52] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata: edit button in heading overlaps alias text - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89956#1049787 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3High
[15:11:42] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Redesign header - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75654#1049789 (10Lydia_Pintscher)
[15:11:43] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata: edit button in heading overlaps alias text - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89956#1049752 (10Lydia_Pintscher)
[15:12:30] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Creating non-item discussion pages should be disallowed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T59827#1049791 (10matej_suchanek) I wanted to add this to this ticket but for some reason did not... see also [[ https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Abuse...
[15:12:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10QEDK: [C: 031] Schedule a LinksUpdate job if sitelinks changed [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191595 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89903) (owner: 10Hoo man)
[15:13:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Schedule a LinksUpdate job if sitelinks changed [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191595 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89903) (owner: 10Hoo man)
[15:13:07] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata: RDF mapping should not assert that .../entity/Q123 is-a Wikidata item - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89949#1049792 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3Normal
[15:14:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10QEDK: [C: 031] label-/descriptionview Removed obsolete _isBeingEdited member [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/189722 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[15:16:57] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata: RDF mapping should not assert that .../entity/Q123 is-a Wikidata item - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89949#1049800 (10Lydia_Pintscher)
[15:17:00] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Implement complete RDF mapping for entities (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T50143#1049799 (10Lydia_Pintscher)
[15:25:04] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata, wikidata-query-service: Implement simple query language against Titan - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86018#1049807 (10Lydia_Pintscher) 5Open>3declined a:3Lydia_Pintscher
[15:25:05] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata, wikidata-query-service: Simple Query Language against both Titan and SQL - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86016#1049809 (10Lydia_Pintscher)
[15:29:20] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata, Mobile-Web: Image thumbnail urls should be included where applicable in wikidata API response for commonsMedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76827#1049829 (10Lydia_Pintscher) I am going to close this assuming previous comments address the usecase.
[15:29:29] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata, Mobile-Web: Image thumbnail urls should be included where applicable in wikidata API response for commonsMedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76827#1049831 (10Lydia_Pintscher) 5Open>3declined a:3Lydia_Pintscher
[15:29:33] <aude>	 hoo: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86765 is back :/
[15:29:57] <aude>	 you need to try with useLegacyUsageIndex = true
[15:30:08] <aude>	 DanielK_WMDE_: ^
[15:30:22] <hoo>	 aude: On master?
[15:30:23] <hoo>	 :(
[15:30:32] <hoo>	 I mean after my patch
[15:30:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: "causes https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86765 again :(" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191595 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89903) (owner: 10Hoo man)
[15:30:35] <aude>	 yes
[15:30:40] <hoo>	 damn
[15:30:44] <hoo>	 thanks for noticing
[15:30:48] <aude>	 maybe we need purge + something else
[15:31:29] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata, ValueView: [docs] Add documentation about events - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78277#1049834 (10Lydia_Pintscher) So can we close this then? Or is more needed for this ticket?
[15:31:41] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata, ValueView: [docs] Add documentation about events - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78277#1049835 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3Low
[15:32:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Add <br> tags to Wikibase repo special pages [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/189735 
[15:32:39] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Implement TermLookup directly on top of wb_terms table - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86950#1049843 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3High
[15:34:50] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata: Avoid inconsistencies due to slave lag - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88986#1049850 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3Normal
[15:35:34] <hoo>	 aude: I'll look into that in a short bit
[15:36:16] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Slow rendering pages display content outside the container - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84838#1049869 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3High
[15:36:35] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Slow rendering pages display content outside the container - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84838#931704 (10Lydia_Pintscher)
[15:37:32] <matej_suchanek>	 hi, is this edit summary anything new? https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q3618508&diff=197594227&oldid=144887864
[15:37:55] <sjoerddebruin>	 maybe via api?
[15:39:25] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata: RDF mapping should not assert that .../entity/Q123 is-a Wikidata item - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89949#1049879 (10Smalyshev) So, what should the dump look like? Nothing is a wikibase:Item, something else is a wikibase:Item ? If we think that entity:Q23 is the thing, should we have `entity:Q2...
[15:39:29] <Aldnonymous>	 mobile using wifi.
[15:39:57] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, Wikidata: remove support for old extension registration/loading endpoint - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88567#1049880 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3Normal
[15:40:17] <wikibugs>	 3Datasets-General-or-Unknown, Wikidata: improve Wikidata dumps - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88991#1049882 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3High
[15:41:24] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, Wikidata: Track multi-lingual label usage - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89002#1049883 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3High
[15:42:20] <wikibugs>	 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-02-03, Wikidata: Edit button is inconsistently shown (or not) on protected items - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89962#1049885 (10aude) 3NEW a:3aude
[15:42:41] <wikibugs>	 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-02-03, Wikidata: Edit button is inconsistently shown (or not) on protected items - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89962#1049893 (10aude)
[15:43:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Use the current time as change time for Entity undeletions [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191624 
[15:44:54] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata: RDF mapping should not assert that .../entity/Q123 is-a Wikidata item - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89949#1049895 (10mkroetzsch) The RDF should certainly contain information about the entity type of exported data. This is essential to ensure that the RDF data contains all the information that i...
[15:45:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Use the current time as change time for Entity undeletions [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191624 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[15:48:07] <aude>	 hoo: ok
[15:50:43] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata.org, Wikidata: Specific Wikidata Help Page without history - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T46199#1049900 (10JanZerebecki) From my test installation I get the following error: Argument 5 passed to Wikibase\Client\Hooks\UpdateRepoHookHandlers::onArticleDeleteComplete() must implement interface Conte...
[15:54:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Hoo man: Use the current time as change time for Entity undeletions [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191624 
[15:55:30] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata-Quality, Wikidata: improving constraint reports - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86515#1049918 (10Tamslo) p:5Normal>3Low
[15:55:49] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata-Quality, Wikidata: improving constraint reports - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86515#969953 (10Tamslo) p:5Low>3Normal
[15:56:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Use the current time as change time for Entity undeletions [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191624 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[15:57:43] <dennyvrandecic>	 Peter-C: Data published by the US federal government is Public Domain
[15:58:31] <dennyvrandecic>	 i.e. no legal requirement to ask, although it could be considered friendly to tell them
[16:00:14] <wikibugs>	 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-02-03, Wikidata: spec of how timevalue works and is supposed to work - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88438#1049925 (10thiemowmde) Pretty important to be released ASAP: https://github.com/DataValues/Time/pull/32
[16:00:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Hoo man: Use the current time as change time for Entity undeletions [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191624 
[16:03:01] <wikibugs>	 3Continuous-Integration, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: generate patch code coverage on gerrit patch-set upload for wikibase.git - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88435#1049926 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3Normal
[16:03:25] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, Wikidata: Figure what to do with MWException within Wikibase - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88360#1049928 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3Normal
[16:03:53] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Introduce EntitySearch service - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86949#1049930 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3Normal
[16:04:54] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata, Analytics: active user statistics that have less lag than wikistats - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88121#1049932 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3Normal Yes that is enough. What is usually interesting for me is the last 30 days.
[16:05:38] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, Wikidata: Allow Snak rendering in user language instead of content language for multilingual wikis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88924#1049934 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3High
[16:05:59] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata: JSON should (optionally) contain expanded/normalized values. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89005#1049935 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3Normal
[16:06:28] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, § Wikidata-Sprint-2015-02-03, Wikidata: css margin for wb-language-fallback-indicator is inconsistent in rtl and ltr - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89047#1049937 (10Lydia_Pintscher) 5Open>3Resolved a:3Lydia_Pintscher
[16:06:43] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata: RDF mapping should not assert that .../entity/Q123 is-a Wikidata item - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89949#1049939 (10daniel) Thanks for your input, Markus!  > things that are of rdf:type Item are things that are described by on item on Wikidata  So, what type would the description have? schema:...
[16:08:35] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-skins-Vector, Wikidata, MediaWiki-Interface: Wikidata shouldn't print two headings - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78560#1049940 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3Low
[16:20:44] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS9) 10Smalyshev: Implement RDF export for items and RDF dumps (Turtle only for now) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191393 
[16:21:30] <aude>	 Lydia_WMDE: hoo did you see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_MediaWiki_Core_Team/Backlog/Improve_dumps
[16:21:40] <aude>	 just fyi, if we have input for that
[16:22:26] <hoo>	 aude: Saw that... I hope to have time to go through it and add idea sometime
[16:22:29] <hoo>	 but today is :S
[16:22:44] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, Wikidata: Deleting page without revisions fatals hook - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89963#1049962 (10JanZerebecki) 3NEW
[16:22:57] <hoo>	 We found that bug, btw... it was me choosing a bad page to test that
[16:22:59] <hoo>	 :/
[16:24:07] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata.org, Wikidata: Specific Wikidata Help Page without history - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T46199#1049972 (10JanZerebecki) 5Open>3Resolved
[16:25:58] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata: http://test.wikidata.org/entity/Q837 is missing apache config/redirect - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89964#1049978 (10JanZerebecki) 3NEW
[16:27:31] <wikibugs>	 3Datasets-General-or-Unknown, Wikidata: improve Wikidata dumps - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88991#1049988 (10aude)
[16:27:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Daniel Kinzler: Purge parser cache upon links update [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191629 
[16:28:10] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 hoo: --1
[16:28:13] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 hoo: --^^
[16:28:14] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata: Edit button in heading overlaps alias text - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89956#1049992 (10aude)
[16:29:31] <gh-datavalues>	 [13Time] 15thiemowmde pushed 1 new commit to 06pad4Year: 02http://git.io/Amx6
[16:29:31] <gh-datavalues>	 13Time/06pad4Year 14b9df67e 15Thiemo Mättig: Avoid unnecessary printf
[16:30:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Hoo man: Purge parser cache upon links update [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191629 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89903) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[16:35:52] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, Wikidata: When sitelinks change, update link data in cached ParserOutput without re-parsing the page. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89965#1050002 (10daniel) 3NEW
[16:37:48] <wikibugs>	 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-02-03, Wikidata, Mobile-Web: Wikidata changes do not propagate to siteinfo api call - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89903#1050010 (10daniel) 5Open>3Resolved fixed in head
[16:40:06] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-Page-editing, Wikidata, MediaWiki-API: ApiStashEdit silently loses custom DataUpdates. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86305#1050019 (10daniel) 5Open>3Resolved a:3daniel Wikibase no longer uses addSecondaryDataUpdates()
[16:40:47] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, Wikidata: Sitelink changes should update related pages' links tables rows as well besides just clearing parser cache - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T52924#1050022 (10daniel) 5Open>3Resolved a:3daniel This has been fixed for a long time now.
[16:42:17] <wikibugs>	 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-02-03, Wikidata, Mobile-Web: Wikidata changes do not propagate to the local langlinks table, according to props=langlinks in the API - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89903#1050029 (10daniel)
[16:43:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Do not display meaningless Z in DateTime diffs [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191634 
[16:52:46] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, Wikidata: When sitelinks change, update link data in cached ParserOutput without re-parsing the page. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89965#1050051 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3High
[17:01:53] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 032] Use the current time as change time for Entity undeletions (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191624 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[17:12:40] <hoo>	 Lydia_WMDE: aude: Will make a backport branch with the dispatch fix and the langlinks-api fix
[17:12:43] <hoo>	 anything else?
[17:13:01] <hoo>	 s/branch/build/
[17:13:12] <sjoerddebruin>	 Can you make me a hot chocolate?
[17:14:14] <aude>	 hoo: are they fixed already
[17:14:23] * aude gives sjoerddebruin hot chocolate :)
[17:14:31] * sjoerddebruin burns his hands
[17:14:38] <aude>	 heh
[17:14:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Always pad year to 4 digits in DateTime diffs [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191640 
[17:14:52] <hoo>	 aude: Yes, but on patch is not yet merged as jenkins is taking a break
[17:15:05] <aude>	 ok
[17:16:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Use actual minus sign for timestamp in DateTime diffs [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191641 
[17:22:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Added "noime" class to site id input [extensions/Wikibase] (wmf/1.25wmf16) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191642 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88417) 
[17:25:10] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata, Analytics: active user statistics that have less lag than wikistats - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88121#1050129 (10JanZerebecki) Then this might be sufficient: $ date -d '-30days' --iso 2015-01-20 [wikidatawiki]> select count(*), change_user_id from wb_changes where change_time > 20150120000000...
[17:25:49] <hoo>	 aude: If you people head for food, let me know ;)
[17:26:40] <aude>	 we are thinking about it
[17:26:43] <aude>	 soon
[17:26:46] <aude>	 hoo: ^
[17:26:51] <hoo>	 ok :)
[17:27:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032 V: 032] "Ran the tests locally, also there's Travis" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191629 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89903) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[17:28:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Schedule a LinksUpdate job if sitelinks changed [extensions/Wikibase] (wmf/1.25wmf16) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191643 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89903) 
[17:29:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Use the current time as change time for Entity undeletions [extensions/Wikibase] (wmf/1.25wmf16) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191644 
[17:29:46] <lazowik>	 hoo: but still the cache will not be purged until a change after the backport happens, right?
[17:29:53] <lazowik>	 are you going to do some manual purging?
[17:30:16] <hoo>	 lazowik: Yes, it needs manual purging and no, I doubt I'll do tha
[17:30:16] <hoo>	 t
[17:31:09] <lazowik>	 there are probably many pages affected
[17:31:33] <lazowik>	 and sitelinks, after being populated do not change that often per page
[17:32:57] <hoo>	 lazowik: Can you open a bug for that, I'll evaluate that then
[17:33:08] <hoo>	 but I'm about to head for food, so can't decide that now
[17:33:50] <lazowik>	 mhm
[17:34:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS10) 10Smalyshev: Implement RDF export for items and RDF dumps (Turtle only for now) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191393 
[17:34:04] <gh-datavalues>	 [13Time] 15thiemowmde 04force-pushed 06redone from 149e66f0d to 14cce4ef3: 02http://git.io/bKQt
[17:34:04] <gh-datavalues>	 13Time/06redone 141fb5929 15Thiemo Mättig: Major rewrite of TimeParser
[17:34:04] <gh-datavalues>	 13Time/06redone 14db4905f 15Thiemo Mättig: Basic range checks
[17:34:04] <gh-datavalues>	 13Time/06redone 142f758f5 15Thiemo Mättig: More strict parsing for years <60
[17:35:37] <travis-ci>	 wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/54e284a : Hoo man The build was broken. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/51404646
[17:41:13] <wikibugs>	 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-02-03, Wikidata: spec of how timevalue works and is supposed to work - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88438#1050187 (10Jc3s5h) Releasing fixes ASAP before deciding how dates should be stored seems like putting the cart before the horse, unless you plan to release an additional patch l...
[17:42:58] <gh-datavalues>	 [13Time] 15thiemowmde pushed 1 new commit to 06redone: 02http://git.io/AYaB
[17:42:58] <gh-datavalues>	 13Time/06redone 14b5274cc 15Thiemo Mättig: Simplify test case construction
[17:45:35] <Peter-C>	 dennyvrandecic, that was my thought too
[17:47:05] <gh-datavalues>	 [13Time] 15thiemowmde pushed 1 new commit to 06pad4Year: 02http://git.io/AYwO
[17:47:05] <gh-datavalues>	 13Time/06pad4Year 1463cb30d 15Thiemo Mättig: Use str_pad
[17:47:44] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] Added "noime" class to site id input [extensions/Wikibase] (wmf/1.25wmf16) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191642 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88417) (owner: 10Hoo man)
[17:48:12] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] Schedule a LinksUpdate job if sitelinks changed [extensions/Wikibase] (wmf/1.25wmf16) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191643 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89903) (owner: 10Hoo man)
[17:48:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] Use the current time as change time for Entity undeletions [extensions/Wikibase] (wmf/1.25wmf16) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191644 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[17:58:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Daniel Kinzler: Set Change timestamp based on RC timestamp. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191649 
[17:59:00] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Display precision of coordinates in "length" units - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T57817#1050239 (10thiemowmde) Almost dupes, yes. But note that T89218 is only about special values and this is about all values.  Same problem with both suggestions: Conversi...
[18:03:46] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 hoo: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89962
[18:04:51] <wikibugs>	 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-02-03, Wikidata: Edit button is inconsistently shown (or not) on protected items - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89962#1050275 (10hoo)
[18:04:52] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Edit buttons are getting cached, although their visibility depends on user rights - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85252#1050276 (10hoo)
[18:06:43] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, § Wikidata-Sprint-2015-02-03, Wikidata: Edit buttons are getting cached, although their visibility depends on user rights - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85252#1050291 (10daniel)
[18:07:20] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata: Edit button is inconsistently shown (or not) on protected items - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89962#1050295 (10daniel)
[18:07:42] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, § Wikidata-Sprint-2015-02-03, Wikidata: Edit buttons are getting cached, although their visibility depends on user rights - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85252#1050296 (10daniel) a:3aude
[18:09:59] <wikibugs>	 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-02-03, Wikidata: spec of how timevalue works and is supposed to work - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88438#1050301 (10thiemowmde) The horse and the cart are running way ahead, I'm trying hard to catch up. The decision how non-Gregorian dates are to be stored was made in May 2013, see...
[18:18:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Make stuff in SpecialNewEntity private [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191659 
[18:24:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 031] "No reason to block this, but I have questions." (033 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191649 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[18:31:18] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Ricordisamoa: Replace deprecated configuration variable $wgSpecialPageGroups (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178804 (owner: 10Ricordisamoa)
[18:31:29] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata: RDF mapping should not assert that .../entity/Q123 is-a Wikidata item - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89949#1050405 (10mkroetzsch) Our primary goal is to encode the JSON information in RDF, and possibly to enrich this information where it makes sense in an RDF-context (e.g., by adding links to ot...
[18:40:44] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Do not display meaningless Z in DateTime diffs [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191634 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[18:41:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Always pad year to 4 digits in DateTime diffs [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191640 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[18:42:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Use actual minus sign for timestamp in DateTime diffs [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191641 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[18:44:17] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Added "noime" class to site id input [extensions/Wikibase] (wmf/1.25wmf16) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191642 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88417) (owner: 10Hoo man)
[18:44:53] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Schedule a LinksUpdate job if sitelinks changed [extensions/Wikibase] (wmf/1.25wmf16) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191643 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89903) (owner: 10Hoo man)
[18:46:48] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Use the current time as change time for Entity undeletions [extensions/Wikibase] (wmf/1.25wmf16) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191644 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[18:47:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Implement RDF export for items and RDF dumps (Turtle only for now) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191393 (owner: 10Smalyshev)
[18:48:18] <multichill>	 Good evening
[18:49:02] <Amir1>	 multichill: good evening 
[18:49:08] <Amir1>	 I'm not sure if anyone is around
[18:49:30] <multichill>	 Hi Amir1, you are! ;-)
[18:49:49] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Set Change timestamp based on RC timestamp. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191649 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[18:50:09] <Amir1>	 I'm writing scripts to connect pages of wikibooks
[18:53:04] <wikibugs>	 3§ Wikidata-Sprint-2015-02-03, Wikidata: spec of how timevalue works and is supposed to work - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88438#1050534 (10Jc3s5h) The code comment state above does not constitute a decision. I don't know if this project allows important decisions to be made without discussion and hidden...
[18:54:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Make stuff in SpecialNewEntity private [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191659 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[18:55:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Use the current time as change time for Entity undeletions [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191624 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[19:13:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Added "noime" class to site id input [extensions/Wikibase] (wmf/1.25wmf16) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191642 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88417) (owner: 10Hoo man)
[19:13:45] <Dereckson>	 Do we have a tool to move all interwiki links from an item to another one? Use case: each wiki speaks about a series of book but our wikidata item is about a series
[19:13:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Schedule a LinksUpdate job if sitelinks changed [extensions/Wikibase] (wmf/1.25wmf16) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191643 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89903) (owner: 10Hoo man)
[19:16:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Use the current time as change time for Entity undeletions [extensions/Wikibase] (wmf/1.25wmf16) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191644 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[19:55:58] <Peter-C>	 could someone with pacience help walk me through how to propose a property?
[19:58:08] <matej_suchanek>	 Dereckson: you propably mean https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-Move.js
[19:58:21] <matej_suchanek>	 Peter-C: I have never done it but start at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal
[19:59:07] <Peter-C>	 Tried that earlier.
[19:59:24] <Peter-C>	 Attempted to fill out a template, failed misreably.
[20:14:49] <multichill>	 Peter-C: What kind of property?
[20:14:59] <Peter-C>	 Err
[20:15:02] <Peter-C>	 Category? Event.
[20:17:17] <Peter-C>	 multichill, I wanna port over FEMA data about disasters/
[20:17:33] <Peter-C>	 The identifier and a link to specifics.
[21:07:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Purge parser cache upon links update [extensions/Wikibase] (wmf/1.25wmf16) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191726 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89903) 
[21:07:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] Purge parser cache upon links update [extensions/Wikibase] (wmf/1.25wmf16) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191726 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89903) (owner: 10Hoo man)
[21:11:49] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Purge parser cache upon links update [extensions/Wikibase] (wmf/1.25wmf16) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191726 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89903) (owner: 10Hoo man)
[21:12:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Hoo man: Use the current time as change time for Entity undeletions [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191624 
[21:20:52] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw 04deleted 06hashArray at 14f23f235: 02http://git.io/A3Gk
[21:28:03] <dennyvrandecic>	 hmm, I seem to be unable to sort statements
[21:29:36] <travis-ci>	 wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/b9110fc : Translation updater bot The build was fixed. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/51432229
[21:30:00] <hoo>	 dennyvrandecic: that has been removed from the UI
[21:31:03] <dennyvrandecic>	 hoo: ui. why?
[21:32:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Update Wikibase [extensions/Wikidata] (wmf/1.25wmf16) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191769 
[21:33:28] <hoo>	 dennyvrandecic: I think that keeping it working during the steady switch to the new UI would have been way to much work
[21:33:44] <hoo>	 Also it never really worked satisfyingly
[21:35:44] <dennyvrandecic>	 :P I was able to sort statements, and am not anymore.
[21:36:03] <dennyvrandecic>	 Also, it would have been nice to put it into the weekly updates
[21:36:08] <dennyvrandecic>	 whatever :(
[21:36:36] <travis-ci>	 wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/ffe91ef : Marius Hoch The build was fixed. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/51433578
[21:36:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: Set Change timestamp based on RC timestamp. (033 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191649 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[21:38:19] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 dennyvrandecic: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89949
[21:38:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] Update Wikibase [extensions/Wikidata] (wmf/1.25wmf16) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191769 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[21:40:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update Wikibase [extensions/Wikidata] (wmf/1.25wmf16) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191769 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[21:41:29] <dennyvrandecic>	 no, everything is an item
[21:41:39] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata: RDF mapping should not assert that .../entity/Q123 is-a Wikidata item - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89949#1051359 (10daniel) > In neither case are we referring to the HTML page or any other electronic document.  That's our basic disagreement. We actually do have separate URIs for the document/d...
[21:41:40] <dennyvrandecic>	 need to read through the bug i guess before i can comment
[21:43:32] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 dennyvrandecic: wikibase:Item owl:sameas rdfs:Resource ?
[21:44:27] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 we could do it this way, though i find it a bit pointless. and we'd probably want types for the different kinds of descriptions too, then.
[21:45:17] <dennyvrandecic>	 no, not completely
[21:45:22] <dennyvrandecic>	 not everything is an item
[21:45:26] <dennyvrandecic>	 properties are not items
[21:45:30] <dennyvrandecic>	 but properties are resources
[21:45:39] <dennyvrandecic>	 everything that has a QID is an item
[21:52:19] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata: RDF mapping should not assert that .../entity/Q123 is-a Wikidata item - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89949#1051441 (10daniel) Of course, we can just say that George Washington actually //is// a wikidata:Item in "the real world". Then the RDF would be correct. But then we'd still //not// be talki...
[21:53:29] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 dennyvrandecic: i think i understand markus a bit better now. you can watch my thoughts develop in my last comment :)
[21:58:28] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 aharoni: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89903
[21:59:07] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata: RDF mapping should not assert that .../entity/Q123 is-a Wikidata item - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89949#1051500 (10Denny) /entity/Q23 rdf:type wikibase:Item .  wikibase:Item is the set of all things that have a QID. I.e. the real Adam Weish... George Washington is identified by /entity/Q23 an...
[21:59:17] <aharoni>	 DanielK_WMDE_: It's better than bad, it's good!
[21:59:20] <aharoni>	 Thanks!
[21:59:29] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 :)
[22:00:15] <dennyvrandecic>	 DanielK_WMDE_: added to the bug. I think, /entity/Q23 is both Washington and has the type Wikibase-Item
[22:00:24] <dennyvrandecic>	 I'd say let's close the bug
[22:01:55] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata: RDF mapping should not assert that .../entity/Q123 is-a Wikidata item - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89949#1051504 (10daniel) Denny: fine. But then we are //not// talking about the description, but the thing when using /entity/Q23. So if we want to say the description //has// a statement, we nee...
[22:02:16] <hoo>	 GerardM-: Elections aren't politicians
[22:03:22] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 dennyvrandecic: fine, but your interpretation is contrary to markus'. I'd like to resolve this somehow.
[22:04:13] <dennyvrandecic>	 DanielK_WMDE_: huh? I do not think so
[22:04:29] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 dennyvrandecic: markus seems to follow a "fully reified" interpretation, where we only talk about the description. Fine, but then he's using the wrong URIs, as far as I can tell... 
[22:04:44] * DanielK_WMDE_ doesn't have a WDT dump here
[22:04:57] <dennyvrandecic>	 you can take the paper, there it is explained
[22:05:45] <dennyvrandecic>	 http://korrekt.org/papers/Wikidata-RDF-export-2014.pdf
[22:06:51] <dennyvrandecic>	 I think I agree with Markus
[22:07:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hoo man: "recheck" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191649 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[22:07:42] <dennyvrandecic>	 You can make a reification of a statement starting from the thing, indeed you have to, in order to state qualifiers
[22:08:30] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 dennyvrandecic: i think i have to re-read the paper tomorrow, to understand my confusion better. something is wrong here, but maybe it's just in my head :)
[22:09:06] <dennyvrandecic>	 i come online around 3pm your time IIRC, so, feel free to ask then again if something is still confusing
[22:10:16] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata: RDF mapping should not assert that .../entity/Q123 is-a Wikidata item - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89949#1051527 (10Denny) No, /entity/Q23 is not the description, indeed, it is the item.  Refer also to http://korrekt.org/papers/Wikidata-RDF-export-2014.pdf (as per IRC chat).
[22:10:54] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata: RDF mapping should not assert that .../entity/Q123 is-a Wikidata item - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89949#1051533 (10daniel) 5Open>3Invalid a:3daniel The definitive resource is of course Markus' and Denny's paper http://korrekt.org/papers/Wikidata-RDF-export-2014.pdf   I'll have to re-rea...
[22:10:55] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Implement complete RDF mapping for entities (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T50143#1051536 (10daniel)
[22:15:17] <dennyvrandecic>	 8 am my time, just to be sure I get it right :)
[22:15:48] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 dennyvrandecic: if I'm still confused about it, I think we'll have to explain these things quite a few times yet...
[22:15:48] <dennyvrandecic>	 actually, Fig. 3 should answer all questions, DanielK_WMDE_
[22:16:09] <dennyvrandecic>	 in that case I am happy the paper is there :)
[22:16:53] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Adopt to Scribunto change that sets wgContLang for tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191786 
[22:17:13] <hoo>	 DanielK_WMDE_: ^ Can I have a quick +2 so that I can revert the Scribunto revert?
[22:28:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Anomie: [C: 032] "The unit tests pass, and the situation isn't any worse than before. Although I'd like it better if $wgLang and $wgLanguageCode were kept i" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191786 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[22:31:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Adopt to Scribunto change that sets wgContLang for tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/191786 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[22:52:27] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata: RDF mapping should not assert that .../entity/Q123 is-a Wikidata item - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89949#1051642 (10mkroetzsch) Thanks for adding Denny. Long reply, but details matter here.  I agree that there are different things one could talk about (document, real thing). However, for now I...
[22:55:12] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata: RDF mapping should not assert that .../entity/Q123 is-a Wikidata item - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89949#1051651 (10mkroetzsch) Now my reply was so long that the ticket has already been closed in the meantime :-D Anyway, those are my two (or more) cents on this topic ;-) I don't think the pape...
[23:03:30] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata: RDF mapping should not assert that .../entity/Q123 is-a Wikidata item - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89949#1051684 (10daniel) > unless of course you are returning query results in RDF so that these results would turn into another kind of RDF export that needs to be consistent with those we have...
[23:14:38] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata: RDF mapping should not assert that .../entity/Q123 is-a Wikidata item - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89949#1051715 (10mkroetzsch) > We are, indeed, playing with the idea of a SPARQL endpoint now...  Interesting. Virtuoso is your best bet in terms of performance. It should be able to handle the d...