[00:17:59] Hello [06:26:14] http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/jet-meme.jpg [07:14:37] [13Time] 15mariushoch closed pull request #31: Remove composer update from bootstrap (06master...06bootstrap) 02http://git.io/bOls [07:16:40] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15mariushoch pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/bZ7e [07:16:40] 13WikibaseDataModel/06master 14dc35b25 15Marius Hoch: Merge pull request #355 from wmde/self... [07:30:49] 3Wikidata, dev.wikimedia.org: Showcase/inspire: Mobile page description from Wikidata - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88409#1013824 (10Qgil) p:5Triage>3Normal [07:58:51] (03PS1) 10Adrian Lang: Add jshint to npm test [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188523 [07:59:53] (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: "Necessary for I405bea9d3e3710e83506873a2d480a72bddcb83d" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188523 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [08:04:40] [13ValueView] 15adrianheine 04force-pushed 06mwDep from 144fe20c1 to 14d1908b5: 02http://git.io/FwHP [08:04:40] 13ValueView/06mwDep 14d1908b5 15Adrian Heine: Remove mediaWiki dependency [08:05:01] [13ValueView] 15adrianheine comment on pull request #154 14d1908b5: Done. 02http://git.io/bZpr [08:07:01] (03PS6) 10Adrian Lang: Pass ContentLanguages instance using ULS to ValueView [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186229 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86653) [08:07:33] (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: Pass ContentLanguages instance using ULS to ValueView (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186229 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86653) (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [08:19:53] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: language fallback - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76216#1013885 (10adrianheine) [08:36:28] Hi hashar [08:38:01] 3Wikidata, dev.wikimedia.org: Document the Wikidata API in the Developer Hub - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T359#1013892 (10Qgil) I wonder how these Wikidata API docs will look like, and where will be they published. In the masterplan, we have agreed that API references should be documented directly in th... [08:39:16] (03PS9) 10Adrian Lang: Overhauled snakview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186963 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [08:48:11] (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: Overhauled snakview (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186963 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [09:00:18] 3Wikidata, Continuous-Integration, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: jenkins job to generate wikibase.git coverage - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88434#1013952 (10hashar) p:5Triage>3Volunteer? Lacking spare cycles to work on it. One will have to figure out how it can be done. [09:45:40] How can I find out how many Wikipedia articles are using WikiData for parts of their data? [09:52:49] Or how many Wikipedia instances (languages) are using WikiData for parts of their articles? [09:53:51] There is a external use template: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:ExternalUse [10:02:08] (03PS2) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Show calendar names instead of URIs in diffs [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188403 [10:03:07] DrSkyLizard: https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=wikidataclient.dblist [10:03:17] All wikpedias are using wikidata for language links at least [10:07:00] So that means that the language links for a page are the same across all the languages an article is written in, right? I remember finding an article where this was not the case, but I think it was on WikiSpecies [10:07:38] Wikispecies is not on the boat yet. [10:07:44] I think it will never be. [10:08:13] sjoerddebruin: why is that? [10:08:28] too few contribs? [10:19:52] DrSkyLizard: duplicate features. [10:20:03] Wikidata already offers the same mostly. [10:20:28] indeed [10:29:27] DrSkyLizard: we don't have a good way currently to get a real sense of how much of the data is used accross the projects but that will hopefully change over the next months [10:30:06] as for wikispecies: we will add it to wikidata and then we'll see if/how the project changes or if they say they'll close it down [10:38:14] (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Format time zone as +01:00 in TimeDetailsFormatter [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188535 [10:40:10] (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Fix wrong message lists in DetailsFormatters [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188536 [10:41:06] [13WikidataBuildResources] 15JanZerebecki closed pull request #19: Use gerrit.w.o instead of github for wikibase. (06master...06wikibase-from-gerrit) 02http://git.io/FRHo [10:56:45] Are there any WikiData replicas? [10:57:04] *available on bastion servers [10:57:19] replicas? You mean dumps? [10:59:39] database replicas [10:59:58] Ok, so dumps [11:00:26] which bastions are you talking about? And which database dumps? The xml ones or the json ones? [11:04:11] dev.tools.wmflabs.org , login.tools.wmflabs.org or trusty.tools.wmflabs.org ; I've found wikidatawiki_p database [11:04:42] Ah, I see what you mean [11:04:50] but those databases only hold the metadata [11:26:04] (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Refactor and simplify time formatter classes [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188541 [11:30:27] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Create a SpecialPage that allows to edit label, description and aliases together - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72174#1014114 (10Lydia_Pintscher) We had this discussion in the office already. The issue is that SetEntityTerms tells users exactly nothing. I... [11:39:23] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Create browsertests for Search gadget on beta - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T68252#1014125 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) p:5Normal>3Low [11:39:47] 3Wikidata: switch WikidataBuildResources composer sources from github to gerrit - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88452#1014127 (10JanZerebecki) [12:09:04] (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Show human readable time precision in diffs [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188544 [12:28:58] hoo: using that database I can find how many Wiki projects are using WikIData [12:29:57] https://paste.kde.org/pqur2evfb/2ntwzb [12:30:24] DrSkyLizard: That is just a list of all Wikimedia run sites [12:30:28] nothing really interesting [12:33:20] ah, right, that table is the same everywhere [12:44:16] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Introduce EntitySearch service - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86949#1014201 (10daniel) [12:44:30] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Introduce EntitySearch service - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86949#980082 (10daniel) [12:45:07] Is there a way to find out the items that contain geo coordinates? [12:45:23] WDQ? [12:46:08] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Re-implement uniqueness constraint in a consistent and efficient way - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T74430#1014209 (10daniel) Instead of "fingerprint", we could call it "unique feature". [12:54:09] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Implement EntitySearch service on top of Elastic - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88534#1014228 (10daniel) [12:55:45] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Investigate preconditions & constraints for using Elastic directly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88535#1014230 (10daniel) [12:57:32] * hoo rages about Java [13:06:34] Which part of it? [13:09:25] I think it might just be a screwed up equals method... but I don't care to hard here [13:11:09] this.foo() == this.foo() && [13:11:22] * hoo facepalms hard [13:11:37] :D [13:17:09] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Introduce EntitySearch service - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86949#1014286 (10daniel) (after discussion with adrian) The baseline implementation of EntitySearch would be based on wb_terms, and would initially use the search code that currently resides in... [13:20:21] hoo: well, that can go both ways, maybe it's by design that way ;) because foo() has side effects and it returns different results for different calls, but not all the times ^^ But if that's not the intent the logic error maybe can be catched by a static analysis tool like FindBugs/PMD/Checkstyle [13:22:44] DrSkyLizard: No, that was a pure value object... so an actual plain bug ;) [13:31:20] (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Show before and after time values in human readable form [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188551 [13:32:30] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Introduce EntitySearch service - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86949#1014298 (10daniel) if we do the above, we can: * drop term_weight * drop term_search (and change the collation of term_text to be case insensitive) * remove the ranking code that sorts by... [13:34:23] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: make sure there are tests that we do unicode normalization - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88539#1014300 (10JanZerebecki) 3NEW [13:42:23] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Introduce EntitySearch service - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86949#1014314 (10daniel) Implementation Note: Ranking is currently done by an in-memory sort on 5000 prefix matches. This is needed to avoid a file-sort on the MySQL server: A composite index... [13:53:52] 3Wikidata: Wikidata Browsertests (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88541#1014338 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) 3NEW [13:54:10] (03PS1) 10Adrian Lang: Introduce DifferencesSnakVisualizer, improve ClaimDifferenceVisualizer tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188552 [13:55:37] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Create browsertests for Search gadget on beta - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T68252#1014346 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [13:55:38] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Create browsertests for CommonsMedia gadget on beta - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T68253#1014347 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [13:55:39] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Selenium tests for read permission - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T42723#1014348 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [13:55:41] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient: [selenium] test for client-to-Repo move change propagation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T52244#1014352 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [13:55:42] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient: add selenium test for item id on action=info page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T59466#1014351 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [13:55:43] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: [selenium] prevent addition of multiple sitelinks per target site. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T52362#1014349 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [13:55:44] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Migrate current special-page selenium tests to cucumber - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55846#1014350 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [13:55:45] (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: Introduce DifferencesSnakVisualizer, improve ClaimDifferenceVisualizer tests (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188552 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [13:55:46] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Migrate current statement selenium tests to cucumber - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55845#1014356 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [13:55:47] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: [Selenium] tests for sitelink groups - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T51532#1014353 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [13:55:48] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Migrate current client-repo selenium tests to cucumber - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55844#1014357 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [13:55:50] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: [selenium] tests for focus flow - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T50136#1014354 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [13:55:51] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: [selenium] tests for in-other-languages widget - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T50139#1014355 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [13:55:53] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: run browsertests for wikidata from gerrit - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75364#1014359 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [13:55:54] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Migrate current selenium tests to cucumber - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55849#1014358 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [13:55:55] 3Wikidata: Wikidata Browsertests (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88541#1014345 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [13:55:57] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Investigate timeouts during selenium tests on beta - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T68071#1014360 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [13:56:43] 3Wikidata: Wikidata Browsertests (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88541#1014338 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [13:58:08] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Introduce DifferencesSnakVisualizer, improve ClaimDifferenceVisualizer tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188552 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [14:00:01] [13Time] 15thiemowmde created 06pad4Year (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/bcF6 [14:00:01] 13Time/06pad4Year 14f34ca54 15Thiemo Mättig: Enforce minimal year padding to 4 digits [14:01:36] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Browsertests to check repo-client connection - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55844#1014374 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) p:5Normal>3High [14:03:21] [13Time] 15thiemowmde pushed 1 new commit to 06pad4Year: 02http://git.io/bcNl [14:03:21] 13Time/06pad4Year 1453eb4bc 15Thiemo Mättig: Simplify data providers [14:06:19] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Browsertests for currently used datavalues - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55845#1014382 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) p:5Normal>3High [14:06:53] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Browsertests for currently used datavalues - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55845#561222 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [14:06:56] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Migrate current selenium tests to cucumber - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55849#1014388 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [14:11:57] [13Time] 15thiemowmde opened pull request #33: Enforce minimal year padding to 4 digits (06master...06pad4Year) 02http://git.io/bcjM [14:12:49] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Time data-type inconsistently zero-pads year value (dates earlier than year 1000?) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66084#1014406 (10thiemowmde) https://github.com/DataValues/Time/pull/33 is one of a lot more steps to solve this. [14:16:18] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Browsertests for time value input - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88542#1014412 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) 3NEW [14:16:46] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Browsertests for time value input - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88542#1014419 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [14:17:54] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Browsertests for geo value input - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88543#1014421 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) 3NEW [14:19:00] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Browsertests for commons media value input - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88544#1014429 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) 3NEW [14:19:09] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Browsertests for commons media value input - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88544#1014436 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [14:19:57] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Browsertests for URL value input - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88545#1014439 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) 3NEW [14:20:19] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Browsertests for monolingual text value input - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88546#1014446 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) 3NEW [14:20:51] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Browsertests for quantity value input - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88547#1014453 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) 3NEW [14:21:23] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Browsertests for wikibase-property value input - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88548#1014462 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) 3NEW [14:22:19] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Browsertests for wikibase-property value input - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88548#1014472 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) p:5High>3Normal [14:22:25] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Browsertests for commons media value input - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88544#1014474 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) p:5High>3Normal [14:22:30] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 032] Add jshint to npm test [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188523 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [14:23:28] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Browsertests for commons media value input - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88544#1014429 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [14:23:29] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Browsertests for time value input - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88542#1014478 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [14:23:30] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Browsertests for geo value input - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88543#1014477 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [14:23:54] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: make sure there are tests that we do unicode normalization - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88539#1014479 (10JanZerebecki) [14:25:24] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Browsertests for new header section - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T50139#1014481 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) p:5Normal>3High [14:25:54] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Browsertests for new header section - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T50139#535260 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [14:25:56] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Redesign header - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75654#1014491 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [14:27:22] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add jshint to npm test [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188523 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [14:53:12] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Browsertests for focus flow - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T50136#1014587 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) p:5Normal>3Low [14:54:57] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Browsertests tests for sitelink groups - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T51532#1014592 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) p:5Normal>3Low [14:55:10] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Browsertests for sitelink groups - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T51532#543559 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [14:56:21] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient: [selenium] test for client-to-Repo move change propagation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T52244#1014605 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [14:56:23] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Browsertests to check repo-client connection - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55844#1014606 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [14:57:11] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient: Browsertests test for item id on action=info page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T59466#1014610 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [14:58:24] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Migrate current special-page selenium tests to cucumber - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55846#1014614 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [14:58:50] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Browsertests for Special:SetDescription - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88555#1014620 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) 3NEW [14:59:10] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Browsertests for Special:SetAliases - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88556#1014627 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) 3NEW [14:59:57] Tobi_WMDE_SW: Do we have a ticket about the browser tests for the linkItem widget? [15:00:13] I suspect those tests might got lost somewhere on the road [15:01:02] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Browsertests for Special:SetSitelink - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88557#1014636 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) 3NEW [15:03:08] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Browsertests to check that only one sitelink per target site can exist - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T52362#1014645 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [15:05:37] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Browsertests for read permission - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T42723#1014679 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) p:5Volunteer?>3Normal [15:09:24] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Add meta description in the header for Wikibase pages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88475#1014699 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3Normal [15:09:48] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Run subset of Wikidata browsertests on every commit on Gerrit. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75364#1014700 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) p:5Normal>3Low [15:21:02] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Use "assistant languages" from the Translate extension for the term box, etc. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88284#1014777 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3Normal [15:21:13] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: make sure there are tests that we do unicode normalization - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88539#1014779 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3Normal [15:21:48] 3Wikidata, Continuous-Integration: Enable PHP_CodeSniffer for Wikibase - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86538#1014783 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3Normal [15:21:58] 3MediaWiki-Core-Team, wikidata-query-service, Wikidata: Write example queries in different query languages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86786#1014784 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3High [15:22:37] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Use ContentLanguages object for terms - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87369#1014785 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3Normal [15:22:53] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Use ContentLanguages object for special pages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87370#1014788 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3Normal [15:23:26] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Browsertests for search gadget on beta - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T68252#1014791 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [15:23:44] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Provide a mechanism for registering new data types. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88451#1014794 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3Low [15:24:07] 3Language-Engineering, Wikidata: dvwiki link (font) causes page to crash in chrome 40.* and doesn't render in firefox - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88478#1014797 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3Normal [15:24:20] 3Wikidata: make building wikidata for deployment independent from external packagist.org - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88453#1014799 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3Low [15:24:23] 3Wikidata: Browsertests for Wikidata Gadgets (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88561#1014801 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) 3NEW [15:24:41] 3Wikidata: switch WikidataBuildResources composer sources from github to gerrit - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88452#1014808 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3Normal [15:24:46] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Browsertests for CommonsMedia gadget on beta - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T68253#1014810 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) p:5High>3Normal [15:24:58] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Make language fallback indicators optional in EntityIdHtmlLinkFormatter - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88422#1014818 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3Low [15:25:11] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Reduce snakview / snakview.variations.Value complexity - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88271#1014820 (10Lydia_Pintscher) p:5Triage>3Normal [15:25:14] 3Wikidata: Browsertests for Wikidata Gadgets (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88561#1014824 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [15:25:16] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Browsertests for CommonsMedia gadget on beta - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T68253#703641 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [15:25:17] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Browsertests for search gadget on beta - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T68252#703559 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [15:26:18] 3Wikidata: Browsertests for Wikidata Gadgets (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88561#1014801 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [15:26:20] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Create tests for default gadgets (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T67257#1014832 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [15:27:01] 3Wikidata: Browsertests for Wikidata Gadgets (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88561#1014801 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [15:27:02] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Browsertests for CommonsMedia gadget on beta - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T68253#1014837 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [15:27:03] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Browsertests for search gadget on beta - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T68252#1014835 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [15:27:45] 3Wikidata: Wikidata Browsertests (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88541#1014843 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [15:27:47] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Create tests for default gadgets (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T67257#710147 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [15:27:58] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Create tests for default gadgets (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T67257#1014846 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) p:5High>3Normal [15:32:09] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, Wikidata: Convert Wikibase* to use extension registration - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88258#1014880 (10JanZerebecki) [15:37:15] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, Wikidata: remove support for old extension registration/loading endpoint - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88567#1014919 (10JanZerebecki) 3NEW [15:37:30] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Browsertests for currently used datavalues (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55845#1014928 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [15:37:32] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, Wikidata: remove support for old extension registration/loading endpoint - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88567#1014929 (10JanZerebecki) [15:57:16] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, Wikidata: Convert Wikibase* to use extension registration - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88258#1014997 (10JanZerebecki) [15:57:17] 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, Wikidata: remove support for old extension registration/loading endpoint - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88567#1014996 (10JanZerebecki) [16:07:38] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 032] Pass ContentLanguages instance using ULS to ValueView [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186229 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86653) (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [16:13:57] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Pass ContentLanguages instance using ULS to ValueView [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186229 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86653) (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [16:43:39] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "Adrian: can this be merged? Blocking the chain now" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188040 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [16:49:11] hoo, aude or Lydia_WMDE around? [16:49:25] matej_suchanek: jep [16:49:52] hi, just to discuss an interface problem [16:50:02] ah tell me [16:50:10] * hoo is here [16:50:12] i have 10 minutes until next meeting [16:50:35] I have a couple of days until the next meeting, at least :D [16:50:48] ok, I will try to be fast [16:50:54] recently I have created some new edit filters and added a warning [16:51:01] ok [16:51:36] but if you trigger a filter and it warns, you simply don't have to expand the warning and can easily save your edit [16:52:03] I would like to know your opinion on whether you can change it somehow [16:52:18] yeah, that's up to the user to expand it right now [16:52:29] right. that is better in the new ui [16:52:39] eg. disabling [save] until expanded [16:53:22] so as soon as the new UI is launched, it will be okay [16:53:24] ? [16:53:51] then it will be expanded by default i believe [16:54:26] Do we have a bug about that? [16:54:41] Just expanding it per default all the time would be easy [16:54:47] but there might be reasons not to do that [16:55:18] i don't think we do [16:55:19] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 04-1] SnakTypeSelector: Removed unnecessary code (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188040 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [16:55:42] me too [16:56:00] if yes, I would be watching it [16:58:07] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "At some point we used this on some CI server or something." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188353 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [16:59:26] 3Wikidata: Test - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1293#1015162 (10JeroenDeDauw) 5Resolved>3declined a:3JeroenDeDauw [16:59:38] 3Wikidata: Test - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1293#22679 (10JeroenDeDauw) 5declined>3Resolved [17:21:19] 3wikidata-query-service, Wikidata: Formally ask for appropriate hardware for wikidata query - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85956#1015212 (10Manybubbles) [17:25:08] I've been wondering a bit about importing from CC-BY databases to wikidata. I'd say importing the data, and adding the source as reference, with license = CC-BY statifies CC-BY requirements, but that would make data hard to re-use for people in the EU, I assume? [17:25:57] but in the meanwhile, data imported from CC-BY sources has not been deleted [17:26:16] 3MediaWiki-Core-Team, wikidata-query-service, Wikidata: Investigate Titan supernode issues - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85173#1015237 (10JanZerebecki) 5Open>3declined [17:26:54] 3MediaWiki-Core-Team, wikidata-query-service, Wikidata: Investigate Titan supernode issues - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85173#1015241 (10Manybubbles) Yup. This is totally no needed any more. We might still need some of the Gremlin tasks but sure not this. [17:38:23] 3Wikidata, wikidata-query-service: Port wikidata-gremlin to Titan 0.9.0-M1 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85957#1015275 (10JanZerebecki) [17:38:24] 3Wikidata, wikidata-query-service: Port wikidata-gremlin data loading/updating to Titan 0.9.0-M1 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86011#1015273 (10JanZerebecki) 5Open>3declined [17:39:16] 3Wikidata, wikidata-query-service: Port wikidata-gremlin to Titan 0.9.0-M1 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85957#1015277 (10JanZerebecki) 5Open>3declined [17:39:45] 3Wikidata, wikidata-query-service: Port wikidata-gremlin to Titan 0.9.0-M1 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85957#958177 (10JanZerebecki) [17:39:47] 3Wikidata, wikidata-query-service: Port wikidata-gremlin domain specific language to Titan 0.9.0-M1 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86012#1015279 (10JanZerebecki) 5Open>3declined [17:45:32] 3wikidata-query-service, Wikidata, operations: Wikidata Query Service hardware - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86561#1015304 (10JanZerebecki) [17:45:32] 3Wikidata, wikidata-query-service: Formally ask for appropriate hardware for wikidata query - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85956#1015303 (10JanZerebecki) [17:48:23] 3Wikidata, wikidata-query-service: Setup gerrit for wikidata-gremlin - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85953#1015322 (10JanZerebecki) 5Open>3Resolved https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/admin/projects/wikidata/gremlin [17:53:27] 3MediaWiki-Core-Team, Wikidata, wikidata-query-service: Write example queries in different query languages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86786#1015352 (10JanZerebecki) T88341 will have suggestions for queries [18:41:31] hi. I'm trying to figure out the mechanics of how interlanguage links are added to Wikidata. if someone in this channel has pointers to documentations/papers or knows more about the algorithms used, I'd appreciate sharing them with me. [18:48:33] leila: people manually add them [18:49:38] jzerebecki: you mean the initial pass is done by a bot and any new entry/article in let's say Wikipedia is linked manually? [18:50:19] leila: the inital pass was done by a bot because it was manually added to the wikipedias, where the bot extracted it from [18:51:20] I see, dennyvrandecic. is the algorithm/code for the bot somewhere I can look into? documentation can be really helpful, too. [18:51:49] addshore I think was working on one version of the bot [18:51:55] Bunch of us were talking about how this can be done yesterday and from what I can tell, finding the interlanguage links is not trivial. [18:52:17] leila: can you rephrase? [18:52:38] it is quite trivial, you just take the interwiki links from the wikipedia articles which have been manually maintained there [18:52:48] but wikidata is now mostly the definitive source of interlanguage links [18:52:51] jzerebecki: does every new Wikipedia article go to a backlog that is tagged with "add Wikidata item"? trying to figure out how the process works and how well the Wikipedia pages are represented in Wikidata [18:53:47] i.e. there the language links on the left are now from wikidata unless someone specifically wrote something in the page to override that [18:56:01] leila: i don't think there is a process that is so rigid and wikimedia wide followed, i think it is mostly some random tool that allows you to find unlinked articles or unlinked wikidata items [18:57:26] leila: but i'm not doing that often so there might be something i haven't seen yet [18:58:24] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:UnconnectedPages [18:58:32] I see, dennyvrandecic. so something like this? at first, the bot has done one pass over all Wikipedia articles and have collected their manually entered interlanguage links. It then has added interlanguage links to the corresponding Wikidata items. If the Wikidata item doesn't exist, the bot adds that item? What happens to the new pages? Does the same bot go over them or editors? [18:58:33] leila, jzerebecki^^ [18:58:59] yes, the bot then added the items\ [18:59:02] new pages, editors [18:59:55] I see. and how about update to the old pages? suppose someone doesn't know about Wikidata and uses the side-bar to enter the link to another language? [19:00:10] the sidebar actually writes to wikidata [19:00:20] if they do that, they are great :) [19:00:25] okay. that makes sense dennyvrandecic. do you know which bot does this? [19:00:37] leila: Lydia_WMDE just told me that it varies a bit between wikipedias and that there also is some google tool that finds likely candidates of unconnected articles that should be [19:00:45] dennyvrandecic: correct me if i'm wrong [19:01:04] quite correct [19:01:05] jzerebecki: how does it differ based on language? [19:01:42] (I'll be back in 30-min) [19:02:42] leila: i think it would be a lot easier if you explain what issue you are trying to solve or which question you want to answer ;-) [19:03:02] leila: like in how the community goes about it and organizes itself, the basic idea is the same. and the wikidata implementation is the same. [19:04:36] so.... looks like maybe we are *not* deploying new code to test.* today [19:04:39] or at least not yet [19:05:16] valhallasw`cloud: importing cc-by stuff seems like a bad idea, likely nobody noticed yet [19:05:40] aude: because of the rollback of wmf15? [19:05:49] jzerebecki: yep [19:05:55] jzerebecki: *nod* see https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Bot/ValterVBot_12 for example [19:05:55] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IVR_gx1uj0gUKWorD34x3wfyII3-XcKVSQchCWvPf3A/pubchart?oid=688143338&format=interactive [19:06:05] trying to figure out what is wrong in wmf15 [19:06:10] valhallasw`cloud: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikilegal/Database_Rights [19:11:28] aude: would be so much easier if we had continous integration for performance, or even some manual test for it one could run after git bisect instead of deploy to production see how it behaves under real load [19:11:42] +1 [19:11:49] at least it should be monitored in beta [19:12:03] ack [19:12:07] so we can notice when/what causes it to spike [19:12:12] * jzerebecki calls it a night [19:12:16] k [19:12:50] Lydia_WMDE: one thing i noticed is the anon i18n gadget is slowish [19:12:57] it's used on wikidata + commons [19:13:32] spends a bit of time (at least in debug mode) warning about deprecated stuff [19:14:47] probably would be easy fix for a volunteer [19:21:34] 3Wikidata: "Use of "wgUserLanguage" is deprecated. Use mw.config instead." in AnonymousI18n gadget - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88589#1015642 (10aude) 3NEW [19:21:59] 3Wikidata: "Use of "wgUserLanguage" is deprecated. Use mw.config instead." in AnonymousI18n gadget - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88589#1015651 (10aude) i don't know what other projects to put for this... [19:23:01] dennyvrandecic: thanks [19:35:48] hi Lydia_WMDE: trying to answer two questions: 1) what percentage of interlanguage links are captured in Wikidata? 2) What is the mechanism used for collecting interlanguge links in Wikidata? [19:40:12] I am trying to parse a turtle-like file into an RDF store and thought someone here might have an idea of what format it's actually in. [19:40:42] it uses the = sign like this: [19:40:43] void:inDataset ; [19:40:43] = , [19:41:36] according to https://github.com/RDFLib/rdflib/issues/218 it may be an N3 format thing. [19:41:45] 3Scrum-of-Scrums, Wikidata, Mobile-Apps: Enhanced search - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1221#1015711 (10Deskana) Does this refer to what is now the Wikidata Query Service? [19:47:39] I see, it means owl:sameAs [20:28:57] 3Scrum-of-Scrums, Wikidata, Mobile-Apps: Enhanced search - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1221#1015835 (10Lydia_Pintscher) 5Open>3declined a:3Lydia_Pintscher I am going to close this now for lack of response and useful description. Please reopen with those if it is still relevant. [20:32:02] leila: ok [20:32:17] leila: so there are two ways to define language links [20:32:25] 1) in the wiki text [20:32:27] 2) on wikidata [20:32:34] 1 overwrites 2 for display [20:33:07] there were bots that migrated links from wikitext to wikidata but there are edgecases where wikitext links still do make sense and will remain [20:33:57] and then there are articles that should have links in either wikitext or on wikidata but do not because no human connected them [20:34:51] the percentage for the first two you can calculate. the last one is really hard to get humbers for but as jzerebecki said there is a google tool that looked for likely candidates and community members can check them [20:35:26] as for how they are collected: an initial bot run and now mostly by hand either on wikidata or via the widget on the wikipedia/wikivoyage/etc [20:35:35] leila: does that make it clearer? [20:35:46] aude: interesting. thanks [20:37:03] thanks, Lydia_WMDE. [20:37:23] do you know which Google tool does this? [20:38:00] https://tools.wmflabs.org/yichengtry/ [20:38:52] ah! that! I saw it couple of months back. does this one actually make the links now or the user has to do this manually? [20:39:13] it saves them in a database and then one of the wikidata bot owners can transfer them as needed [20:39:23] it doesn't immediately edit wikidata [20:40:07] I see. thanks Lydia_WMDE. this was helpful. I'll think about it more and come back if more questions come up. thanks dennyvrandecic and jzerebecki. [20:40:16] no problem [20:40:39] dennyvrandecic: do you know if anyone actually did go ahead and trasferred the links from https://tools.wmflabs.org/yichengtry/ to wikidata yet? [20:40:54] Somebody did. [20:40:57] cool [20:41:03] thx sjoerddebruin :) [20:41:09] I think it was Pasleim [20:41:13] nice [20:42:09] "Last night, I propagated the edits made on http://tools.wmflabs.org/yichengtry to Wikidata. Those items were tagged to be about the same topic by 4 resp. 5 users.--Pasleim (A) (Overleg) 10:28, 8 January 2015 (UTC)" [20:42:22] \o/ [20:42:44] sjoerddebruin: any idea how many that were? [20:42:51] No idea. [20:42:58] ok i will ask paleim [20:43:03] pasleim even [21:36:59] been off, but what sjoerddebruin said :) [21:37:13] I know too much. :) [21:38:20] given that ignorance is bliss, this is not good for your happiness :( [21:39:11] Wikipedia: Destroyer of Bliss. Since 2001. yw [21:42:56] lol [22:01:13] I'm sure someone in Rome would agree. [22:36:21] when I look at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q42 [22:36:25] and I expand the references [22:36:34] between the first and second snak of the reference [22:36:39] I don't see the dotted line [22:36:49] is that intentional, or is something else going on there? [22:42:50] dennyvrandecic: bug. not worth filing though i think as it'll likely go away with the redesign changes [22:43:00] kk [22:43:13] is there a landing time for the redesign? [22:44:58] finishing up the header now. hope to have that on test system next week [22:45:05] and then on to the statement section [22:45:18] ah, ok, so "no" :) [22:45:24] heh yeah sorry [22:45:30] :) no trouble [22:45:40] we were thinking of having the primary sources tool not be an extra tool [22:45:42] but a widget [22:45:56] so this means we will need to update it once the redesign is out [22:46:18] (there will be a back-end part which will run on labs, but the UI will be in form of a widget, yes, yes, I am writing this up) [22:46:19] i think integrating it int the UI would be good [22:46:26] good :D [22:46:52] dennyvrandecic: somethign to think about: we'll have several similar things to integrate in the UI [22:47:20] one thing that comes to mind is the result of constraint checks and checks against 3rd party databases [22:47:45] hmm, I don't think that's directly similar [22:47:47] will need to think about if it makes sense to show all this in a unified way [22:47:52] no it's not [22:47:59] I would still agree with the unified way story [22:48:06] right [22:48:56] magnus' stuff is such a hack! [22:48:59] but it works [22:49:08] ;-) [22:49:24] I think I will use his QuickStatement Syntax for publishing the Freebase-Datafiles [22:49:35] instead of, uhm, RDF or the Wikidata-JSON Syntax [22:49:40] it is soo much neater to read [22:49:57] haha [22:50:13] I am serious :) [22:50:20] i know! [22:50:21] :P [23:04:15] is there any documentation on how to write widgets for wikidata?