[05:58:46] 3Wikidata, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Plugins, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient: Create a VisualEditor plugin tool to insert/edit references to Wikidata queries - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T48521#997726 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [05:59:08] (03PS6) 10Siebrand: Implement a special page to show items with the most sitelinks [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/181902 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T48217) (owner: 10Multichill) [05:59:26] (03CR) 10Siebrand: [C: 031] "i18n/L10n reviewed." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/181902 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T48217) (owner: 10Multichill) [05:59:40] 3Wikidata, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Plugins, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient: Create a VisualEditor plugin tool to insert/edit references to Wikidata queries - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T48521#485326 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [06:02:03] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Implement a special page to show items with the most sitelinks [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/181902 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T48217) (owner: 10Multichill) [06:10:03] (03PS2) 10Addshore: Fix outdated doc in EntityViewPlaceholderExpanderTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186960 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [06:10:13] (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 032] Fix outdated doc in EntityViewPlaceholderExpanderTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186960 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [06:10:22] (03PS5) 10Addshore: Introduce WikibaseRepo::getTemplateFactory [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/185986 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [06:10:27] (03PS2) 10Addshore: Replace TemplateRegistry::getDefaultInstance with WikibaseRepo factory [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186964 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [06:14:11] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix outdated doc in EntityViewPlaceholderExpanderTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186960 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [07:06:23] (03CR) 10Siebrand: [C: 04-1] "Test failing." (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/181902 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T48217) (owner: 10Multichill) [07:35:07] (03PS2) 10Henning Snater: Consolidated snakview value() and snak() function [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186963 [08:15:29] (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: [C: 032] Implemented statementgroupview widget [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186228 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87320) (owner: 10Henning Snater) [08:15:43] [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15adrianheine closed pull request #38: Adapt to implementation of statementgroupview (06master...06statementgroupview) 02http://git.io/FZdh [08:15:57] (03PS3) 10Henning Snater: Consolidated snakview value() and snak() function [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186963 [08:19:26] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Implemented statementgroupview widget [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186228 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87320) (owner: 10Henning Snater) [08:19:50] (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: [C: 04-1] "WikibaseView cannot depend on WikibaseRepo (as it would do now in the tests)." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/185986 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [08:20:45] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: statementgrouplistview: Added value() function [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186337 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [08:25:32] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: redesign statement section - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87316#997902 (10adrianheine) [08:29:05] (03PS1) 10Henning Snater: statementgroupview: Fixed documentation [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187093 [08:29:48] (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: [C: 032] statementgroupview: Fixed documentation [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187093 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [08:32:25] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: statementgroupview: Fixed documentation [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187093 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [08:37:28] (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: [C: 032] listview: Removed NativeEventHandler [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186753 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [08:38:31] (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: [C: 032] snakview: Removed NativeEventHandler [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186758 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [08:39:22] (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: [C: 032] snaktypeselector: Removed NativeEventHandler [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186761 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [08:39:46] (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: [C: 032] referenceview: Removed NativeEventHandler [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186766 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [08:40:22] (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: [C: 032] snaklistview: Removed NativeEventHandler [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186767 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [08:44:40] (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: [C: 032] Renamed wb-listview to wikibase-listview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186750 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [08:51:48] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Renamed wb-listview to wikibase-listview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186750 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [08:51:51] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Updated listview documentation [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186751 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [08:51:54] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: listview: Moved value setting logic to _setOption [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186752 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [08:51:57] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: listview: Removed NativeEventHandler [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186753 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [08:51:59] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Updated listview.ListItemAdapter documentation [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186754 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [08:52:02] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: snakview: Removed NativeEventHandler [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186758 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [08:52:05] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Updated snakview documentation [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186760 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [08:54:11] [13ValueView] 15adrianheine 04deleted 06012 at 14fc9a595: 02http://git.io/FBGY [08:54:25] [13ValueView] 15adrianheine tagged 060.12.0 at 06master: 02http://git.io/FBG3 [08:54:27] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: snaktypeselector: Removed NativeEventHandler [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186761 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [08:54:30] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Removed obsolete documentation [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186765 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [08:54:32] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: referenceview: Removed NativeEventHandler [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186766 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [08:54:58] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: snaklistview: Removed NativeEventHandler [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186767 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [08:56:17] (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: "recheck" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186229 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86653) (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [09:02:14] (03PS3) 10Adrian Lang: Fixed copyright notification [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186944 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87568) (owner: 10Henning Snater) [09:02:30] (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: "Rebased on master." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186944 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87568) (owner: 10Henning Snater) [09:06:23] (03PS4) 10Adrian Lang: Fixed copyright notification [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186944 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87568) (owner: 10Henning Snater) [09:07:49] (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: [C: 032] Fixed copyright notification [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186944 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87568) (owner: 10Henning Snater) [09:10:10] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fixed copyright notification [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186944 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87568) (owner: 10Henning Snater) [09:11:23] (03PS4) 10Adrian Lang: Pass ContentLanguages instance using ULS to ValueView [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186229 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86653) [09:12:27] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Redesign header - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75654#997931 (10adrianheine) [09:19:20] [13ValueView] 15thiemowmde created 06orderBy (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/FB8u [09:19:20] 13ValueView/06orderBy 1482b08a1 15Thiemo Mättig: Order languages by code [09:22:11] [13ValueView] 15thiemowmde 04deleted 06orderBy at 1482b08a1: 02http://git.io/FB4E [09:30:38] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Split entityViewInit into WikibaseRepo and WikibaseView part - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87434#997937 (10adrianheine) [09:32:24] (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Private by default in all maintenance scripts [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187096 [09:37:53] (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: [C: 032] Private by default in all maintenance scripts [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187096 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [09:41:59] (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: [C: 032] snaklistview: Removed getSnakList() [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186784 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [09:44:16] (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: "Thiemo had a question, too." (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186786 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [09:44:55] (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: [C: 032] Added basic snakview QUnit tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186955 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [09:45:31] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Private by default in all maintenance scripts [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187096 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [09:45:40] (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: [C: 032] Added snakview.value() QUnit tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186959 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [09:59:10] Henning_WMDE: features/reference.feature:158 [10:03:14] (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Fix method signatures in all maintenance scripts [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187101 [10:21:03] (03PS3) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Rework importInterlang/Properties maintainance scripts [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179915 [10:22:31] (03PS1) 10Adrian Lang: Fix logic after switching to afterstopediting [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187102 [10:22:52] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): "I split this patch into 3. And I undid a few of the single-to-double quotes changes including the one Hoo (thanks!) found." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179915 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [10:23:02] (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: [C: 032] Renamed wb-referenceview to wikibase-referenceview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186779 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [10:23:06] (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: [C: 032] Renamed wb-snakview/wb-snak to wikibase-snakview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186773 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [10:23:22] [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15snaterlicious created 06rnsnaklistview (+3 new commits): 02http://git.io/FBMT [10:23:22] 13WikidataBrowserTests/06rnsnaklistview 1468a545e 15snaterlicious: Renamed wb-snaklistview to wikibase-snaklistview [10:23:22] 13WikidataBrowserTests/06rnsnaklistview 14e4e0b6b 15snaterlicious: Renamed wb-snak(view) to wikibase-snakview [10:23:22] 13WikidataBrowserTests/06rnsnaklistview 140e993ae 15snaterlicious: Renamed wb-referenceview to wikibase-referenceview [10:24:51] [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15snaterlicious opened pull request #39: Renamed wb-*view to wikibase-*view (06master...06rnsnaklistview) 02http://git.io/FBM8 [10:26:30] (03CR) 10Henning Snater: [C: 032] Fix logic after switching to afterstopediting [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187102 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [10:28:43] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix logic after switching to afterstopediting [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187102 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [10:36:51] (03CR) 10Henning Snater: Consolidated snaklistview (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186786 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [10:38:36] (03PS4) 10Henning Snater: Consolidated snaklistview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186786 [10:46:13] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Add wikibase-listdatatypes-wikibase-property-* message keys - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86009#997976 (10Lucie) Where are they missing? [10:49:14] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87248 [10:49:49] 3Wikidata: improve dump documentation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85407#997982 (10Lucie) There is a link at "Use the data: Find out how to use the data in your tools" - but it could be a more concrete description, I guess. [10:51:24] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Time data-type inconsistently zero-pads year value (dates earlier than year 1000?) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66084#997983 (10thiemowmde) The +0019 example is irrelevant for what we do. Code that does `string.sub(d, 9, 18)` is just wrong, no matter h... [10:57:35] (03PS3) 10Henning Snater: Renamed wb-snakview/wb-snak to wikibase-snakview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186773 [10:57:42] (03PS3) 10Henning Snater: Renamed wb-referenceview to wikibase-referenceview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186779 [11:10:22] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Consolidate installation help pages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78681#997993 (10Lucie) I didn't change much, but it may be easier to understand already? I decided to not link from https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikibase/Installation to the Advanced con... [11:21:11] [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15snaterlicious pushed 1 new commit to 06rnsnaklistview: 02http://git.io/FReu [11:21:11] 13WikidataBrowserTests/06rnsnaklistview 14801671a 15snaterlicious: Renamed wb-snaktypeselector to wikibase-snaktypeselector [11:22:44] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Add wikibase-listdatatypes-wikibase-property-* message keys - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86009#997999 (10Lucie) (I mean, they exist in the i18n files and are used on the Special site. That's why I didn't see them missing anywhere.) [11:28:30] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Add Summary for Special:ItemDisambiguation and Special:GoToLinkedPage - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86165#998002 (10Lucie) 5Open>3Resolved [11:29:05] 3Wikidata: Change "Wikidata" to "Wikibase" on Special.SpecialPages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86153#998003 (10Lucie) 5Open>3Resolved [11:29:41] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Move entity suggester blacklist to a MediaWiki-page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78399#998004 (10Lucie) a:5Lucie>3None [11:38:10] (03PS4) 10Adrian Lang: snaklistview: Updated documentation [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186783 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [11:39:17] (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: snaklistview: Removed getSnakList() [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186784 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [11:39:21] (03PS4) 10Adrian Lang: snaklistview: Removed getSnakList() [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186784 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [11:40:21] (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: [C: 032] snaklistview: Removed getSnakList() [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186784 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [11:40:39] (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: [C: 032] Renamed wb-snakview/wb-snak to wikibase-snakview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186773 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [11:41:27] (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: [C: 032] Renamed wb-snaklistview to wikibase-snaklistview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186772 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [11:41:29] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Renamed wb-referenceview to wikibase-referenceview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186779 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [11:42:48] jzerebecki: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85799 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T73058 [11:43:59] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15thiemowmde 04deleted 06setentityid at 14ebe188e: 02http://git.io/FRkA [11:46:06] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Renamed wb-snaklistview to wikibase-snaklistview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186772 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [11:46:15] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] snaklistview: Updated documentation [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186783 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [11:50:02] (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: "recheck" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186773 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [11:50:04] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Renamed wb-snakview/wb-snak to wikibase-snakview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186773 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [11:50:06] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15thiemowmde created 06setIdParam (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/FRLD [11:50:06] 13WikibaseDataModel/06setIdParam 142fd47c2 15Thiemo Mättig: Remove misleading type from EntityDocument [11:50:06] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Renamed wb-referenceview to wikibase-referenceview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186779 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [11:50:48] (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: "recheck" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186783 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [11:51:20] (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: [C: 032] snaklistview: Updated documentation [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186783 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [11:51:53] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15thiemowmde opened pull request #352: Remove misleading type from EntityDocument (063.0.x-dev...06setIdParam) 02http://git.io/FRt3 [11:52:03] wmde/WikibaseDataModel/setIdParam/2fd47c2 : Thiemo Mättig The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/builds/48615325 [11:52:29] (03PS5) 10Adrian Lang: Consolidated snaklistview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186786 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [11:52:46] (03PS3) 10Adrian Lang: Added basic snakview QUnit tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186955 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [11:53:04] (03PS2) 10Adrian Lang: Added snakview.value() QUnit tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186959 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [11:53:32] (03PS3) 10Adrian Lang: SnakTypeSelector: Remove 'javascript:void(0);' href [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186755 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T58090) (owner: 10Henning Snater) [11:54:01] (03PS4) 10Adrian Lang: Consolidated snakview value() and snak() function [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186963 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [11:54:46] (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: "recheck" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186783 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [11:55:46] [13WikibaseDataModelSerialization] 15thiemowmde comment on pull request #97 147cf345b: So this is serialized even if it is null? Does the unserializer require this or is it flexible enough to not fail if this is missing? 02http://git.io/FRqS [11:56:07] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: snaklistview: Updated documentation [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186783 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [11:56:09] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: snaklistview: Removed getSnakList() [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186784 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [12:00:43] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseQuery: Implement connection options, inc load balancing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87743#998008 (10Lucie) 3NEW [12:02:13] [13WikibaseDataModelSerialization] 15thiemowmde comment on pull request #97 147cf345b: So no user of this component will ever be allowed to deserialize serializations that contain fallback terms? This idea sounds a bit odd to me, if put that way. Is there an other solution? 02http://git.io/FROU [12:02:30] [13WikibaseQueryEngine] 15frimelle pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/FROY [12:02:30] 13WikibaseQueryEngine/06master 149872307 15Lucie-Aimée Kaffee: Update README.md [12:03:21] [13WikibaseQuery] 15frimelle pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/FRO4 [12:03:21] 13WikibaseQuery/06master 143359b88 15Lucie-Aimée Kaffee: Update README.md [12:03:39] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseQuery: Migrate open issues from https://github.com/wmde/WikibaseQuery/issues to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76711#998015 (10Lucie) https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87743 README: https://github.com/wmde/WikibaseQuery/blob/master/README.md [12:04:43] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseQuery: Migrate open issues from https://github.com/wmde/WikibaseQuery/issues to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76711#998016 (10Lucie) 5Open>3Resolved [12:07:12] 3Wikidata, WikibaseDatabase: Add transaction support - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87744#998020 (10Lucie) 3NEW [12:08:47] [13WikibaseDataModelSerialization] 15thiemowmde 04deleted 06languageFallBack at 147cf345b: 02http://git.io/FR37 [12:08:48] 3Wikidata, WikibaseDatabase: Add transaction support - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87744#998030 (10Lucie) [12:09:28] 3Wikidata, WikibaseDatabase: DBALQueryInterface::select should use $options parameter - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87745#998032 (10Lucie) 3NEW [12:11:11] 3Wikidata, WikibaseDatabase: QueryResult inconsistency - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87746#998040 (10Lucie) 3NEW [12:12:21] [13WikibaseDataModelSerialization] 15JanZerebecki comment on pull request #97 147cf345b: Not until we implement deserialization and agree on a way to prevent TermFallback from accidentally being written into the DB. 02http://git.io/FRsF [12:12:40] 3Wikidata, WikibaseDatabase: Select all fields - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87747#998048 (10Lucie) 3NEW [12:14:12] [13WikibaseDatabase] 15frimelle pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/FRGo [12:14:12] 13WikibaseDatabase/06master 14e986dee 15Lucie-Aimée Kaffee: Update README.md [12:14:30] 3Wikidata, WikibaseDatabase: Migrate open issues from https://github.com/wmde/WikibaseDatabase/issues to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76712#998055 (10Lucie) https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87744 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87745 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87746 https://phabr... [12:14:40] 3Wikidata, WikibaseDatabase: Migrate open issues from https://github.com/wmde/WikibaseDatabase/issues to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76712#998056 (10Lucie) 5Open>3Resolved [12:15:02] [13WikidataBuildResources] 15JanZerebecki closed pull request #17: Make composer always use dist over source (06master...06preferDist) 02http://git.io/n2C0yw [12:17:24] 3Wikidata, DataValues: remove class_alias usage - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87748#998057 (10Lucie) 3NEW [12:19:07] 3Wikidata, DataValues: Altitude support - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87749#998064 (10Lucie) 3NEW [12:20:41] wmde/WikibaseDatabase/master/e986dee : Lucie-Aimée Kaffee The build is still failing. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDatabase/builds/48617221 [12:21:35] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: rename language list to more languages or similar - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87577#998070 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) should it be changed (if yes to what?) or should it stay as it is for the first deployable version? [12:22:14] [13Geo] 15frimelle opened pull request #41: Update README.md (06master...06patch-1) 02http://git.io/FRcq [12:22:28] [13Geo] 15frimelle closed pull request #41: Update README.md (06master...06patch-1) 02http://git.io/FRcq [12:24:41] 3Wikidata, DataValues: Namespace update - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87750#998071 (10Lucie) 3NEW [12:24:44] [13WikibaseDataModelSerialization] 15thiemowmde created 060130 (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/FRCm [12:24:44] 13WikibaseDataModelSerialization/060130 14c956525 15Thiemo Mättig: Release 1.3.0 [12:24:58] [13WikibaseDataModelSerialization] 15thiemowmde opened pull request #104: Release 1.3.0 (06master...060130) 02http://git.io/FRCn [12:25:17] 3Wikidata, DataValues: Migrate open issues from https://github.com/DataValues to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76710#998078 (10Lucie) https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87748 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87749 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87750 [12:25:34] 3Wikidata, DataValues: Migrate open issues from https://github.com/DataValues to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76710#998079 (10Lucie) 5Open>3Resolved [12:27:30] JeroenDeDauw: it seems composer is too stupid to get versions directly from git: "A repository of type "package" contains an invalid package definition: Package wikibase/wikibase has no version defined." [12:27:39] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 032] SnakTypeSelector: Remove 'javascript:void(0);' href [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186755 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T58090) (owner: 10Henning Snater) [12:30:00] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: SnakTypeSelector: Remove 'javascript:void(0);' href [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186755 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T58090) (owner: 10Henning Snater) [12:36:18] wmde/WikibaseDataModelSerialization/0130/c956525 : Thiemo Mättig The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModelSerialization/builds/48618130 [12:39:07] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Have links to Special:SetDescription and Special:SetAliases on Special:SetLabel - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87752#998099 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) 3NEW [12:47:07] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Apply language fallbacks in JavaScript-formatted entity ids - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87754#998118 (10adrianheine) 3NEW a:3adrianheine [12:51:59] wmde/WikibaseDataModelSerialization/0130/c956525 : Thiemo Mättig The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModelSerialization/builds/48618130 [12:54:43] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Group statements within statement group by ranks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87327#998125 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) Question: should it be grouped by normal, preferred or deprecated? or should it be grouped by the concept of "best" statements? [13:00:44] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: add language fallback to entity search/suggester - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76150#998129 (10adrianheine) From my point of view this is quite a regression. Consider the following setting: * P1 has a label in `en`, and no label in `de` * Q1 has a state... [13:04:10] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Make sitelink section aligned to the right - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87755#998130 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) 3NEW [13:06:37] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Replace text in toolbars with icons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87757#998143 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) 3NEW [13:12:22] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Allow simultaneous editing of mainsnak and references - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87759#998162 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) 3NEW [13:15:53] (03PS1) 10Adrian Lang: Fix snak type selector [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187111 [13:16:07] ^^ Henning_WMDE Thiemo_WMDE [13:27:09] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Have links to Special:SetDescription and Special:SetAliases on Special:SetLabel - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87752#998182 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) @lydia_pintscher would that be an acceptable first solution to the problem? [13:36:39] [13WikidataBuildResources] 15JanZerebecki created 06wikibase-from-gerrit (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/FR9x [13:36:39] 13WikidataBuildResources/06wikibase-from-gerrit 14f7333a7 15Jan Zerebecki: Use gerrit.w.o instead of github for wikibase.... [13:38:18] [13WikidataBuildResources] 15JanZerebecki opened pull request #19: Use gerrit.w.o instead of github for wikibase. (06master...06wikibase-from-gerrit) 02http://git.io/FRHo [13:39:20] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: caching difference between current language in top header and current language in in other languages box - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87580#998185 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) Cannot reproduce the problem anymore after purging. [13:43:51] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Make language list injectable throughout backend - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87761#998190 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [13:44:32] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Make language list injectable for monolingual text in backend - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87762#998198 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) 3NEW [13:45:26] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Make language list injectable for entity terms in backend - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87763#998204 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) 3NEW [14:07:41] (03PS16) 10Henning Snater: Rearranged entity view header [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/183498 [14:09:42] 3Wikidata: Bugs related to time datatype - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87764#998220 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) 3NEW [14:10:04] 3Wikidata, wikidata-query-service, Labs: WDQ down (502 Bad Gateway) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87765#998227 (10valhallasw) 3NEW [14:10:58] (03PS3) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Drop unused code from and clean up Api\EditEntity [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186151 [14:12:07] [13WikibaseDataModelSerialization] 15JanZerebecki 04deleted 060130 at 14c956525: 02http://git.io/F0JK [14:12:36] [13WikibaseDataModelSerialization] 15JanZerebecki tagged 061.3.0 at 06master: 02http://git.io/F0Jb [14:15:05] [13WikibaseDataModelSerialization] 15JanZerebecki pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/F0Te [14:15:05] 13WikibaseDataModelSerialization/06master 149df0733 15Jan Zerebecki: Add release date [14:19:19] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Time data-type inconsistently zero-pads year value (dates earlier than year 1000?) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66084#998235 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [14:19:21] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Please provide human readable timestamps in api response - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87074#998236 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [14:19:22] 3Wikidata, DataValues: DataValue Time recognizes the ISO date value not very well in Korean language. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85324#998237 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [14:19:23] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Allows to input of plain text such as "today" in time edit widget - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76859#998240 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [14:19:24] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Time-Parser should detect most likely calendar - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75272#998241 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [14:19:26] 3Wikidata: wikibase diffs for datetime do not display the property label - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87021#998239 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [14:19:27] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Wrong time parsing of ISO dates with day 00 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87574#998238 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [14:19:28] 3Wikidata, DataValues: Sort out relationship between TimeFormatter and TimeIsoFormatter - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T59743#998245 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [14:19:30] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Displaying (and editing) the calendar model of time values is confusing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72395#998242 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [14:19:31] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Unexpected non-MediaWiki exception encountered, of type "InvalidArgumentException", line 63 of TimeDetailsFormatter.php - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T65075#998244 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [14:19:32] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: allow time values more precise than day - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T57755#998243 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [14:19:33] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: date in claim diff formatted as timestamp - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72086#998248 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [14:19:35] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Specify whether TimeValue stores timestamps in UTC or local time. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T67267#998246 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [14:19:36] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Representation of time inside TimeValue objects should depend on the calendar model - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T59930#998247 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [14:19:37] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: TimeValue-datatype doesn't wait on conversion, making wrong edits - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T70443#998249 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [14:19:38] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Make TimeValue represent an interval always. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T67253#998251 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [14:19:40] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Make use of before and after in Time datatype - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T63909#998250 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [14:19:41] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Allow "speaking" values to specify the precision of a time value. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66593#998252 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [14:19:43] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: localize display of time values - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T50962#998254 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [14:19:44] 3Wikidata: Bugs related to time datatype - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87764#998234 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [14:19:45] 3Wikidata, DataValues: ValueView:Make precision values for time input translatable - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T62100#998253 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [14:20:48] 3Wikidata: Bugs related to time datatype - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87764#998220 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [14:21:55] [13WikidataBuildResources] 15JanZerebecki comment on pull request #19 14f7333a7: This does not pull in recursive dependencies, because this should be the full composer.json for one version. Use type:vcs instead. 02http://git.io/F0LZ [14:22:34] [13WikidataBuildResources] 15JanZerebecki 04force-pushed 06wikibase-from-gerrit from 14f7333a7 to 1421403f8: 02http://git.io/F0L1 [14:22:34] 13WikidataBuildResources/06wikibase-from-gerrit 1421403f8 15Jan Zerebecki: Use gerrit.w.o instead of github for wikibase.... [14:29:20] 3Wikidata, wikidata-query-service, Labs: WDQ down (502 Bad Gateway) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87765#998267 (10valhallasw) * valhallasw`cloud: wdq-mm-01 and wdq-mm-02 show as "active", but I can't ssh into wdq-mm-01 ("no route to host"). That might be it. No idea how to fix it though * (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): ApiBase::getAllowedParams changed to protected [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187115 [14:32:26] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Typing a property ID in entity-selector does not trigger "selected" event - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87767#998268 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) 3NEW [14:32:44] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Typing a property ID in entity-selector does not trigger "selected" event - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87767#998275 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [14:38:50] 3Wikidata, Wikimedia-Git-or-Gerrit: trigger packagist.org from repo on gerrit.w.o - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87768#998277 (10JanZerebecki) 3NEW [14:39:56] [13Geo] 15frimelle opened pull request #42: Update README.md (06master...06patch-1) 02http://git.io/F0Za [14:43:46] 3Wikidata, Wikimedia-Git-or-Gerrit: trigger packagist.org from repo on gerrit.w.o - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87768#998287 (10Legoktm) I suppose we could have a post-merge jenkins job for this, though we've been setting most of our other packages to point to github and setting up the hook there (using g... [14:50:08] (03PS14) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Fix random documentation bits in Repo [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172997 [15:07:41] 3Wikidata: disable issues on github repos - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86764#998306 (10JanZerebecki) [15:08:22] 3Wikidata: disable issues on github repos - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86764#975849 (10JanZerebecki) What needs to be discussed here? [15:28:54] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: User interface displays false birth and death dates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87312#998321 (10JulesWinnfield-hu) Please take into consideration that 10 June 323 BC, Julian is ISO **−322-06-05** because of ISO year 0. [15:32:45] 3Wikidata: Bugs related to time datatype - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87764#998322 (10JulesWinnfield-hu) [15:32:48] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: User interface displays false birth and death dates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87312#998323 (10JulesWinnfield-hu) [15:35:29] wmde/WikibaseDataModelSerialization/1.3.0/d92a99f : Jan Zerebecki The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModelSerialization/builds/48628764 [15:37:25] wmde/WikibaseDataModelSerialization/1.3.0/d92a99f : Jan Zerebecki The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModelSerialization/builds/48628764 [15:39:59] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Time data-type inconsistently zero-pads year value (dates earlier than year 1000?) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66084#998328 (10Jc3s5h) As for > The +0019 example is irrelevant for what we do. It is somewhat relevant because the data consumer may be us... [16:14:14] [13Geo] 15thiemowmde pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/FEqT [16:14:14] 13Geo/06master 142f195ac 15thiemowmde: Inline link to Phabricator [16:43:59] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: User interface displays false birth and death dates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87312#998376 (10Jc3s5h) >>! In T87312#998321, @JulesWinnfield-hu wrote: > Please take into consideration that 10 June 323 BC, Julian is ISO **−322-06-05** because of ISO ye... [16:52:56] addshore: do we have data how references look today? [16:55:47] dennyvrandecic_: https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/stats.php :) [16:56:34] 18.9M statements ref wikipedia, 8.2M statements ref other sources [16:56:35] addshore: Nice. [16:57:17] addshore: Sad quite how large the growth in unreferenced items has been, though. [16:57:25] 34.7M refs in total (as some statements can have multiple refs) [16:57:29] James_F: indeed :/ [16:57:46] We need to gamify improving Wikidata references. [16:58:05] hmm, some of these stats dont seem to match up actually... [16:58:38] basically it looks like its 50/50 on the graph at the top! [16:59:29] Hmm. [16:59:30] James_F: really the refs should be added at the time the statement is added, its the only way that really makes sense! [16:59:47] addshore: Not entirely. References can change over time. [17:00:47] Indeed, although references generally have some sort of time they were valid so may not actually be removed [17:00:56] just added to [17:01:46] oh, wikipedia has so many referenceless statements [17:02:21] in wikidata, the number of referenced statements is growing faster than the number of statements overall, this is a good thing [17:02:34] but i wouldnt be too strict about it, this can stifle [17:03:03] addshore: what I meant, do we now which properties are used in references? because the discussion was to change the way references are represented [17:05:05] dennyvrandecic_: take a look at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Sources [17:05:24] just Ctrl + F for '(P' which should draw you to all of the properties on that page. [17:05:43] addshore: no, no, that's prescriptive. I meant how it is actually used :) [17:05:58] if this Help-page is actually implemented, e.g. [17:06:15] generally it is, but I would say certain refs are more common than others [17:06:40] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P248 Stated in is used a lot, for example, stated in freebase id dumps (for freebase ids) [17:07:35] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P854 Ref URL is also commons, generally you also get 577 813 1683 with this [17:08:12] so how would you change the way references work? [17:08:13] As for the other examples on the page I generally see them less but I am sure they are still used in place. [17:09:55] Either 1) an item has a collection of references (not directly tied to a statement), When adding a statement you can then choose one of these references using some ID for your statement [17:09:55] 2) Reference should be items, or some other form of entity, and thus can be linked to globally [17:10:33] but 2 is mostly true, no? [17:10:43] if you have a paper as a reference you just point to the paper [17:10:51] dennyvrandecic_: indeed [17:10:52] and then you can add the page if you want to [17:11:04] same with books i assume [17:11:14] the one problem I feel 1 fixes that 2 doesnt is the ability to reference the existance of an item that doesnt actually have any statements [17:11:48] what item would have no statement but a reference? [17:11:57] Also, one thing that 2 does not fix if the use of quotes to qualify webpage references, P1683 [17:12:00] at least the instance of statement can be used to hook that reference [17:12:38] 2 if implemented badly would probably mean we would end up with items for every quote in a book (as this is how reference currently are) [17:13:13] huh? why? [17:13:29] you would say "that's in this book, here's the quote" in the reference [17:13:49] a quote does not need an item [17:14:57] hmm, okay, so if I referenced a webpage that webpage would have an item, the statement then referencing the page would link to the item, the qualifiers for the statement (retreival time, quote, etc) would remain in the reference (not on the reference item) [17:15:00] indeed could work! [17:16:23] ~27M references already link to items according to those stats [17:16:26] yes, exactly [17:16:36] including wikipedias? [17:16:58] Yes I believe so [17:17:07] so only 779,577 refs to urls etc. [17:17:21] wouldnt actually be that hard to implement [17:18:02] and this could happen totally independently of the dev team, community RFC most likely. [17:18:22] yes [17:18:34] what would be useful would be a nicer rendering of the references [17:18:42] such as? [17:18:47] e.g. if it is a book, autopull the author, publisher, etc. [17:18:59] and display it, because that is how we are used to see a reference [17:19:04] same for articles, etc. [17:19:09] but that's nothing urgent [17:19:32] its almost like reference sound like they should now have a mainsnak [17:19:39] *references [17:20:00] i guess the first snak is akin to the main snak [17:20:05] infact, it sounds like references should have a mainsnak and qualifiers [17:20:09] but the idea was it to keep it a bit more flexible [17:20:37] i am not sure if a change like that would be beneficial enough at this point [17:20:51] *goes to look at how references are strucutred internally [17:21:06] should be an ordered set of snaks [17:21:18] iirc [17:22:14] Indeed it is ordered so yes simply presuming the first is the main should be fine [17:23:34] i really like the idea of autopulling the publisher, etc. for books [17:24:04] it probably could be a user-widget first [17:24:18] dennyvrandecic_: indeed [17:24:40] and then it could be refined and possibly made default or whatever [17:25:00] right now there just isn't much book data or article data in wikidata [17:26:16] hweyl: well, that can be fixed :) [17:26:25] oh, freebase has a bit of book data [17:26:32] maybe I should focus on that first... [17:26:43] i would like to help with that! [17:27:00] that would be awesome [17:27:27] I wish I had more time to help :/ [17:27:36] sorry, I don't know your background, can you tell me a bit? [17:27:46] hweyl: ^ [17:27:52] I know addshore's background [17:27:59] addshore: me too :) [17:28:01] this is katherine thornton [17:28:12] ah great :) [17:28:45] so I guess if we could somehow figure out how we can effectivel map as many books as possible to existing items [17:28:57] i guess that might be easy, just use ISBN and wikipedia links... [17:29:10] oh, no, it won't work [17:29:13] ISBN, wikipedia links and freebase identifiers already in WD? [17:29:26] yes, but for references that were added since then [17:29:30] we probably don't have those [17:29:45] we probably just have a title and the authors [17:30:01] what if we pulled data from OCLC [17:30:05] for the books [17:30:10] great idea [17:30:16] does oclc have a licence? [17:30:21] dunno [17:30:28] need to figure that out [17:30:33] let me check [17:30:40] but if possible, it would be a great source! [17:31:44] The ODC-BY license will also be used by OCLC as additional sets of WorldCat data are released, including future linked data projects. Going forward, OCLC will modify related processes and policies in order to make the cooperative�s data sharing efforts more consistent with this recommendation. [17:33:25] :( [17:33:41] i think there are some library sets under cc0 [17:33:57] europeana maybe, also us gov library data should all be cc0/pd [17:34:46] library of congress [17:37:15] yeah that should be pd [17:37:22] and they should have plenty of records [17:38:13] also open library looks like it could be an option [17:40:05] (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Introduce TemplateFactory::getDefaultInstance [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187127 [17:40:11] so how could a flow for wikidata look like? [17:40:23] simply importing everything is not a good idea, i assume [17:40:39] but when needed for a reference, we should be creating something [17:40:40] seems like a hurdle would be mapping the works [17:40:47] yes [17:41:08] i wonder if this could help us https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Citoid [17:41:09] but as a first step we could define a set of attribute value pairs [17:41:31] hweyl: expand? [17:42:45] like a module for the most basic citation info and then that would pull the values from loc for the item the editor wanted to cite [17:42:53] just as a first step [17:43:34] and then folks who clearly understand how wikidata is implementing FRBR could handle the creation of the work entity (if needed) [17:44:13] James_F: I guess people are generally at the office all day? I have to check out of this Hotel by Noon and into my next after 3pm! Office trip time!? (: Krenair ? [17:45:03] addshore: It's a bit busy here… but I guess. [17:45:11] (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Introduce TemplateFactory::getTemplates [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187129 [17:45:42] hweyl: yes sounds right [17:45:55] does loc provide data on different frbr levels? does wikidata? [17:46:09] i thought wikidata is mostly on one level (was it work?) [17:46:18] yes, needs a bit digging [17:46:21] i am not sure about loc, if they do, i haven't seen it [17:46:31] i never played with their data [17:46:46] going back to prescriptive vs descriptive [17:46:47] i think citoid in principle can deal with different backends [17:46:50] (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Drop TemplateRegistry::getDefaultInstance [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187130 [17:47:10] in the sources guidelines it says that wikidata models 3 levels of FRBR [17:47:41] i have definitely seen some people creating entries for works as well as item-level entities [17:47:48] in wikidata [17:50:24] checkin that out [17:51:02] uh wow [17:51:07] lol [17:51:17] that's... rather... ambitous [17:51:20] lol [17:51:22] are people really using that? [17:51:28] i was super impressed when i read that [17:52:00] i mean, for a lot of books - besides shakespeare and the bible - I would be rather surprised to find the edition / work distinction being made [17:52:15] there are many more 'voluminous works' than you think [17:52:21] it is really quite useful [17:52:34] and great for wikidata's goals around citation [17:52:37] but for a majority of books that we use in citations? [17:52:52] it just depends [17:53:01] probably not the marjority, you're right! [17:53:12] majority was too strong [17:53:23] for a noticeable subset [17:53:30] i would be even surprised with 5% tbh [17:53:42] i would expect the edition data to be part of the reference [17:53:53] and the work be the usual item to be connected [17:54:33] e.g. say, I refer to "Big Book of Knowledge", so I have a work item for it, Q7, but instead of making an edition item, i simply add the edition in the reference [17:54:55] books with multiple editions could be handled differently (outside of FRBR) [17:55:22] yes [17:55:29] but that's not what the guidelines say [17:55:40] i gotta run, back in an hour [17:55:48] i am quite impressed by the guidelines, I would really like to know if this is what people actually do [17:55:48] cu [18:04:13] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: add language fallback to entity search/suggester - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76150#998625 (10Lydia_Pintscher) I am not sure I understand, @adrianheine. When adding a new statement the fallback would be taken into account as well. That's the point of th... [18:04:49] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Make language list injectable for monolingual text in backend - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87762#998637 (10Lydia_Pintscher) [18:05:28] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Have links to Special:SetDescription and Special:SetAliases on Special:SetLabel - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87752#998641 (10Lydia_Pintscher) Yes I think that is ok. [18:07:24] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Group statements within statement group by ranks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87327#998648 (10Lydia_Pintscher) How would grouping by best statement look like? [18:08:48] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Make language list injectable for entity terms in backend - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87763#998656 (10Lydia_Pintscher) [18:09:12] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Make language list injectable throughout backend - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87761#998667 (10Lydia_Pintscher) [18:13:51] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Have links to Special:SetDescription and Special:SetAliases on Special:SetLabel - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87752#998677 (10Addshore) [18:14:53] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw comment on pull request #352 142fd47c2: why are you removing this? 02http://git.io/Fucf [18:17:21] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JanZerebecki comment on pull request #350 14046ca94: No, 3 variables means 3 combinations of how 2 can be equal. The comparison with null is && not ||. 02http://git.io/FuCH [18:18:47] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: rename language list to more languages or similar - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87577#998688 (10Lydia_Pintscher) I think it should be changed and "more languages" is the best I can come up with. It is not entirely accurate but "language list" isn't eithe... [18:20:15] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Apply language fallbacks in JavaScript-formatted entity ids - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87754#998699 (10Lydia_Pintscher) [18:20:17] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: language fallback - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76216#998698 (10Lydia_Pintscher) [18:41:11] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Have links to Special:SetDescription and Special:SetAliases on Special:SetLabel - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87752#998770 (10Lydia_Pintscher) Though given that we either have to add individual links to the header or create a new special page anyway in t... [18:43:50] 3Wikidata: wikibase diffs for datetime do not display the property label - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87021#998775 (10Addshore) a:5Lydia_Pintscher>3None [18:48:41] @dennyvrandecic_ P629 [18:58:37] used roughly a thousand times [18:59:32] and mostly for the complicated things, like the tao te ching, the declaration of human rights, etc. [18:59:36] but not only [18:59:46] needs proper investigation [19:02:53] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Change formatting of dates on Wikidata - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T63958#998848 (10Stryn) [19:11:29] 3Wikidata, wikidata-query-service, Labs: WDQ down (502 Bad Gateway) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87765#998880 (10yuvipanda) 5Open>3Resolved a:3yuvipanda wdq-mm-01 (which hosts the load balancer as well) went down due to firefighting yesterday. Is back now. [19:16:07] ok, well if we set aside the issue of works for a moment [19:18:19] what would you think of the idea of a program that would request the values for the minimal citation info from loc into wikidata? [19:37:14] "request into" is not a phrase I understand [20:22:27] Hello! [20:24:15] Can anybody tell me how to obtain the link to the wikipedia page associated with a wikidata page/ID with this actions? https://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php [20:24:49] I don't even know where to search [20:30:32] I suppose it's « wbgetentities », but the examples provided don't get me what I want [20:32:26] haha, found it! [20:32:29] sitelinks/url [20:33:19] hweyl: that would be pretty awesome I think [20:33:46] Yolochon_street: yes [20:37:28] but how do I get only the url from a single language wikipedia page? [20:37:50] &sites=enwiki or languages still display other languages results [20:37:56] https://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=wbgetentities&sites=enwiki&titles=Berlin&languages=en&props=sitelinks/urls , for example [20:42:54] « &sitefilter »  [21:11:30] (03CR) 10Siebrand: [C: 031] "i18n/L10n reviewed." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/183498 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [21:35:22] Yolochon_street: have you found it? [21:47:50] addshore: yep, thanks : [21:47:52] :)* [23:23:39] hi again [23:24:10] does anyone know if it's possible to search for wikidata entries « around » certain location? For example, around 20km from the Eiffel Tower [23:25:59] I can't think of anything beyond « try every GPS coordinates of this zone »  [23:43:22] Polochon_street: follow https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T35704 [23:52:26] 3Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository: Warning: call_user_func() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, cannot access private method Wikibase\DumpJson::logMessage - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87823#1000034 (10aude) [23:55:10] (03PS1) 10Aude: Make dumpJson::logMessage public, needed by callback [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187284 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87823)