[00:04:48] <aude>	 hoo: slight chance there was some good reason to use SetupAfterCache
[00:05:05] <aude>	 probably not, but would prefer to look again tomororw
[00:05:20] <hoo>	 Sure
[00:05:36] <hoo>	 I think it's only relevant for things like API requests that don't call any Wikibase hooks
[00:05:43] <hoo>	 thus don't need a namespace checker
[00:06:33] <aude>	 if somehow it is called before $wgExtraNamespaces etc is setup in extensions
[00:06:51] <aude>	 callback is probably ok though
[02:09:52] * hoo has now settled on dates for SF in January
[02:20:44] <harej>	 hmm?
[02:22:01] <hoo>	 harej: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Developer_Summit_2015 ;)
[02:22:06] <harej>	 Ah
[02:22:21] <harej>	 How many Wikidata people will be there for that?
[02:22:36] <hoo>	 Katie (aude), Daniel and /me
[02:22:56] <hoo>	 oh and addshore is going to be there :)
[02:26:45] <harej>	 I'll be in San Francisco around the same time; it'd be nice to meet with some Wikidata staff.
[02:27:55] <hoo>	 Maybe
[02:28:06] <hoo>	 anyway... good night
[03:38:53] <uwe>	 greetings, I'm facing issues logging into wikidata for a week now ... I'm not sure what to do, not sure if this is to be reported as a "bug" or so ...
[08:28:39] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15snaterlicious 04force-pushed 06suggesterissearching from 14fc634b9 to 146d46f46: 02http://git.io/-g6kVQ
[08:28:39] <gh-wmde>	 13ValueView/06suggesterissearching 146d46f46 15snaterlicious: $.ui.suggester: Added isSearching()...
[08:34:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Henning Snater: Returning promise in $.wikibase.listview.enterNewItem() [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178820 
[09:30:17] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Henning Snater: Removed movetoolbar definitions [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179101 
[09:41:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Henning Snater: Removed jQuery.wikibase.claimview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178869 
[09:42:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Henning Snater: Removed movetoolbar definitions [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179101 
[10:12:19] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15thiemowmde created 06snakEquals (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/tzDAPQ
[10:12:19] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06snakEquals 14cb4879c 15Thiemo Mättig: More robust Snak::equals
[10:14:41] <travis-ci>	 wmde/WikibaseDataModel/snakEquals/cb4879c : Thiemo Mättig The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/builds/43698747
[10:17:10] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15thiemowmde opened pull request #327: More robust Snak::equals (06master...06snakEquals) 02http://git.io/zYAElg
[10:19:05] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15thiemowmde 04force-pushed 06snakEquals from 14cb4879c to 14ae1a704: 02http://git.io/FVoMfw
[10:19:05] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06snakEquals 14ae1a704 15Thiemo Mättig: More robust Snak::equals
[10:35:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Replace deprecated configuration variable $wgSpecialPageGroups [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178804 (owner: 10Ricordisamoa)
[10:36:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 032] "I was going to ask if you missed all the other special pages, ;-) but you are right, these 3 files are enough." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178804 (owner: 10Ricordisamoa)
[10:39:43] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Replace deprecated configuration variable $wgSpecialPageGroups [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178804 (owner: 10Ricordisamoa)
[10:40:44] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] sitelinkview: Implemented "remove" toolbar with icon [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/176658 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[10:42:40] <Lydia_WMDE>	 DanielK_WMDE_: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T65722 and https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77977
[10:42:46] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 Lydia_WMDE: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Wikibase/Indexing/Data_Model
[10:44:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] sitelinkview: Implemented "remove" toolbar with icon [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/176658 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[10:57:41] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseQuery] 15thiemowmde created 06specialExecute (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/GMJ72g
[10:57:41] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseQuery/06specialExecute 14710af0d 15Thiemo Mättig: SpecialPage::execute should not return anything
[10:58:28] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseQuery] 15thiemowmde opened pull request #60: SpecialPage::execute should not return anything (06master...06specialExecute) 02http://git.io/aEs-cQ
[10:58:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Henning Snater: Moved toolbar definitions into dedicated files [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179109 
[11:00:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS9) 10Daniel Kinzler: Defer entity deserialization [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/167224 
[11:01:48] <travis-ci>	 wmde/WikibaseQuery/specialExecute/710af0d : Thiemo Mättig The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseQuery/builds/43702812
[11:02:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Moved toolbar definitions into dedicated files [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179109 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[11:04:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Defer entity deserialization [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/167224 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[11:04:12] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Henning Snater: Evaluated entityViewInit ResourceLoader modules [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179111 
[11:07:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Evaluated entityViewInit ResourceLoader modules [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179111 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[11:07:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS8) 10Daniel Kinzler: Don't use (or need) Content (again) in ViewEntityAction [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178542 (owner: 10Aude)
[11:14:59] <Lydia_WMDE>	 andre__: i can't load the wikidata board it seems: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/wikidata/board/ it times out. possibly because of too many tickets in it? anything we can do about it?
[11:17:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Tobias Gritschacher: New Wikidata Build - 2014/12/11 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179113 
[11:18:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Henning Snater: Removed jQuery.wikibase.claimview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178869 
[11:18:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Henning Snater: Removed movetoolbar definitions [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179101 
[11:18:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Henning Snater: Moved toolbar definitions into dedicated files [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179109 
[11:19:09] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Tobi_WMDE_SW: getting errors atm when trying to log into phabricator. will try again later
[11:20:11] <Nemo_bis>	 Lydia_WMDE: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78223
[11:20:38] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Nemo_bis: thanks!
[11:32:19] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Tobi_WMDE_SW: board for client also seems to not load. that should have way less. so something else is probably wrong
[11:32:23] <Lydia_WMDE>	 andre__: ^
[11:33:03] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 Lydia_WMDE: hm
[11:33:06] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 that's bad
[11:33:12] <Lydia_WMDE>	 yeah
[11:36:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Drop dead and redundant special page code [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179114 
[11:38:39] <Lydia_WMDE>	 is there a way to search for bugs i added tokens to?
[11:45:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Avoid RegexValidator if possible [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178922 
[11:45:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Reduce non-functional validator nesting [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178967 
[11:46:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Replace deprecated configuration variable $wgSpecialPageGroups [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178804 (owner: 10Ricordisamoa)
[11:47:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Drop dead and redundant special page code [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179114 
[11:50:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): "> why you want to do this change." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/177237 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[12:16:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: "imho, i think it's easier to read with Property::ENTITY_TYPE (so it's more clear what type of this is and what it means/where it comes fro" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/177237 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[12:23:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10JanZerebecki: [C: 032] Don't load sites for DirectSqlStore [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178999 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[12:25:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: "recheck" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/167224 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[12:25:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10JanZerebecki: [C: 032] Make tests for expected URLs more robust [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178705 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[12:27:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Don't load sites for DirectSqlStore [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178999 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[12:30:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Make tests for expected URLs more robust [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178705 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[12:33:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Aude: Inject settings into DirectSqlStore [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179118 
[12:34:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] "looks good, and especially helps for improving performance of page views together with I8d3f3ccd :)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/167224 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[12:35:28] <andre__>	 Lydia_WMDE, https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78223
[12:38:12] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Replace deprecated configuration variable $wgSpecialPageGroups (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178804 (owner: 10Ricordisamoa)
[12:38:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Defer entity deserialization [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/167224 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[12:41:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Replace deprecated configuration variable $wgSpecialPageGroups [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178804 (owner: 10Ricordisamoa)
[12:46:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Henning Snater: statementview: Updated documentation [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179119 
[12:46:24] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Henning Snater: Refactored statementview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179120 
[12:52:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10JanZerebecki: "> To make the code simpler." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/177237 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[12:55:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Addshore: When merging items, reuse conflicting labels as aliases [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178062 
[12:55:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] When merging items, reuse conflicting labels as aliases [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178062 (owner: 10Addshore)
[12:58:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Henning Snater: Refactored statementview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179120 
[12:58:51] <aude>	 oh wow, chain of patches touching DirectSqlStore
[12:59:02] <Lydia_WMDE>	 andre__: jep thanks :)  any idea about the issue of not being able to load boards?
[12:59:15] <andre__>	 you can by passing the ID instead of the name
[12:59:27] <andre__>	 Lydia_WMDE, https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78208#840927
[13:00:02] <Lydia_WMDE>	 andre__: hah ok - thanks
[13:00:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Make stuff in DirectSqlStore private and fix docs [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178513 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[13:00:09] <Lydia_WMDE>	 that helps
[13:00:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Addshore: When merging items, reuse conflicting labels as aliases [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178062 
[13:01:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Narrow DirectSqlStore to use languageCode instead of Language [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178519 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[13:01:59] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Tobi_WMDE_SW: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/71/ <- board for wikidata. i will start adding columns and moving this around later
[13:03:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10JanZerebecki: [C: 032] Use same SidebarHookHandlers instance during request [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178993 (owner: 10Aude)
[13:05:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] When merging items, reuse conflicting labels as aliases [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178062 (owner: 10Addshore)
[13:05:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Make stuff in DirectSqlStore private and fix docs [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178513 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[13:05:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Narrow DirectSqlStore to use languageCode instead of Language [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178519 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[13:07:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Use same SidebarHookHandlers instance during request [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178993 (owner: 10Aude)
[13:08:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Addshore: When merging items, reuse conflicting labels as aliases [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178062 
[13:11:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] When merging items, reuse conflicting labels as aliases [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178062 (owner: 10Addshore)
[13:14:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS6) 10Addshore: When merging items, reuse conflicting labels as aliases [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178062 
[13:15:02] <unicodesnowman>	 hi aude :)
[13:15:07] <aude>	 hi :)
[13:15:41] <aude>	 do you have any questions yet how to setup wikibase or such?
[13:16:22] <unicodesnowman>	 I'm just trying to figure out how to get PHPUnit working at the moment
[13:16:27] <aude>	 ok
[13:17:17] <unicodesnowman>	 I've moved all the SQL files and reviewed / modified all files (through grepping for ".sql"), want to make sure I haven't broken or missed anything
[13:17:23] <aude>	 great
[13:18:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Henning Snater: Refactored statementview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179120 
[13:22:00] <Lydia_WMDE>	 unicodesnowman: if you want us to add more tasks later let us know. especially if you have ideas for tasks you'd like to work on
[13:22:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 04-1] "might be that thiemo already fixed this in his chain of patches that touch DirectSqlStore" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179118 (owner: 10Aude)
[13:26:24] <unicodesnowman>	 Lydia_WMDE, I'd love to! I'll have a look through phrabicator in a bit
[13:26:41] <Lydia_WMDE>	 k
[13:27:40] <Lydia_WMDE>	 unicodesnowman: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/query/Ceve7w7FUJdv/#R
[13:27:45] <unicodesnowman>	 hm, I'm trying to install Wikibase (copied to extensions/Wikibase), added the 4 lines to enable a Wikibase repository, but get this: http://pastebin.com/VmzqjiUz
[13:27:49] <Lydia_WMDE>	 all tasks for wikidata that need a volunteer
[13:28:09] <unicodesnowman>	 Lydia_WMDE, ty!
[13:28:19] <aude>	 hmmm
[13:28:41] <aude>	 did you run composer install ?
[13:29:14] <aude>	 it's actually been a while since i installed wikibase fresh
[13:29:52] <unicodesnowman>	 no, I've just copied the cloned git repo I've been working with into extensions/ -- I'll try composer.
[13:30:02] <aude>	 ok, think that might be needed
[13:30:22] <unicodesnowman>	 does the git repo not include everything that is needed?
[13:30:26] <aude>	 no
[13:30:52] <aude>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikibase/Installation
[13:35:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Aude: New Wikidata build - 2014/12/11 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179129 
[13:35:28] <aude>	 Tobi_WMDE_SW: fyi ^
[13:35:42] <aude>	 oh you made one
[13:35:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Abandoned) 10Aude: New Wikidata build - 2014/12/11 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179129 (owner: 10Aude)
[13:36:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] New Wikidata Build - 2014/12/11 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179113 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[13:36:35] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 Made one this morning. We might want to amend
[13:36:43] <aude>	 that's ok for now
[13:37:51] <aude>	 though might like to backport deferred entity deserializaiton patch and my patch for view entity action 
[13:38:08] <aude>	 since those help alot with performance (and fixes fatal)
[13:38:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: New Wikidata Build - 2014/12/11 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179113 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[13:46:08] <Lydia_WMDE>	 DanielK_WMDE: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76827 when you have 2 mins later
[13:47:32] <aude>	 Lydia_WMDE: would we want that in the database serialization also (e.g. dumps) ?
[13:47:54] <hoo>	 DanielK_WMDE: aude: I've decided for dates that I'm going to be in SF next month
[13:48:22] <hoo>	 We might want to do something before the summit or so? :)
[13:48:42] <aude>	 yay
[13:50:19] * aude is coming day early (saturday), since chance of snow storm and problems is somewhat high
[13:50:34] <aude>	 then have time to deal with problem :)
[13:51:05] <hoo>	 heh
[13:51:22] <hoo>	 I guess I'm going to arrive on Friday or Saturday
[13:51:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Unicodesnowman: Move all sql schema files to repo/sql/ [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179131 
[13:51:33] <hoo>	 depends on flight details
[13:52:10] <Lydia_WMDE>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T67990 could also use more input
[13:52:47] <Lydia_WMDE>	 aude: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75744 <- patch is merged. ok to close?
[13:53:13] <aude>	 Lydia_WMDE: yes
[13:53:21] <Lydia_WMDE>	 ok closing
[13:54:20] <unicodesnowman>	 aude, installed fine with composer and my changes are working, unless there are files that reference SQL paths without ".sql" I should've caught all of them 
[13:54:20] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Tobi_WMDE_SW: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75277 <- ok to close? you adjusted brownser tests, right?
[13:54:34] <hoo>	 Lucie moving bugs from github to phab?
[13:54:42] <Lydia_WMDE>	 hoo: yes
[13:54:49] <hoo>	 \o/ :)
[13:54:50] <aude>	 unicodesnowman: great
[13:55:09] <unicodesnowman>	 Lydia_WMDE, I remember you from KDE last year! :)
[13:55:32] <Lydia_WMDE>	 unicodesnowman: \o/ yes
[13:57:07] <Lydia_WMDE>	 aude: i think daniel said you were working on that? https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78266 if there is a patch up already you can link
[13:59:12] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 Lydia_WMDE: yep, closed
[13:59:16] <Lydia_WMDE>	 thx
[14:00:01] <aude>	 Lydia_WMDE: nope, only working on avoiding getContent where possible
[14:00:07] <Lydia_WMDE>	 ok
[14:00:17] <aude>	 and fixed ReferenceList 
[14:00:26] <aude>	 back when Q72 was broken
[14:01:14] <hoo>	 I looked into that yesterday
[14:01:16] <hoo>	 horrible
[14:01:27] <aude>	 :(
[14:01:53] <aude>	 we might be able to do more like what i did for ReferneceList
[14:02:05] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 Lydia_WMDE: when moving the issues from github to phabricator, there should be added the link to the phabricator-project to the README on the github repo.
[14:02:10] <hoo>	 depending on how often Revision::getContent is actually being accessed we might want to not cache a static copy there at all
[14:02:12] <aude>	 e.g. avoid directly using SplObjectStorage serialization / unserialziation 
[14:02:33] <hoo>	 aude: But that's still faster than hacky deep copy __clone
[14:02:33] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Lucie_WMDE: ^
[14:02:46] <aude>	 hoo: true
[14:04:01] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 Lydia_WMDE: Lucie_WMDE: we could also think about disabling the issue-tracker on the github repos completely. but then the links to the existing issues would be broken, which is bad I think
[14:04:44] <Lucie_WMDE>	 Tobi_WMDE_SW I think so, too. Because copying the whole discussion into phabricator is a mess, I guess.
[14:04:58] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 yeah
[14:05:16] <Lucie_WMDE>	 Until now, I just commented at the issues themselves with the lionk to phabricator before I closed them.
[14:05:23] <hoo>	 github diffs are more fancy now?
[14:05:31] <hoo>	 With syntax highlighting and stuff
[14:06:37] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 Lucie_WMDE: there should be the link in the readme as well.. you could just edit the readme directly online
[14:06:39] <unicodesnowman>	 hoo, they introduced side by side diffs after.. years?
[14:06:49] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 no need to make a pull request for these things
[14:06:57] <DanielK_WMDE>	 aude, hoo: i'm arriving on thursday already. would be fun to do something on the weekend
[14:07:16] <Lucie_WMDE>	 Okay. I will just set the link at the end of the readme. 
[14:07:20] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 unicodesnowman: hoo the side by side diffs I think are there for some time already
[14:08:11] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 and I thought the syntax highlighting as well
[14:08:13] <hoo>	 No, I mean syntax highlighting in diffs
[14:08:16] <hoo>	 mh
[14:08:32] <aude>	 DanielK_WMDE: if i arrive early, yes :)
[14:08:41] <hoo>	 I'm in :)
[14:09:01] <aude>	 although shall visit cousins also, if i can
[14:15:44] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15frimelle pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/jU61Fg
[14:15:44] <gh-wmde>	 13ValueView/06master 14bf6b7c0 15Lucie-Aimée Kaffee: Added Bugs to README...
[14:16:14] <hoo>	 aude: SWAT my exclude namespaces config. thing later on?
[14:16:20] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15frimelle pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/VNV71g
[14:16:20] <gh-wmde>	 13ValueView/06master 145a16c90 15Lucie-Aimée Kaffee: Update README.md
[14:16:22] <aude>	 if you want
[14:16:32] * aude is leaving early and won't be around
[14:16:37] * aude will +!
[14:16:39] <aude>	 1
[14:16:40] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 Lucie_WMDE: better would be to just provide one link to the project on phabricator
[14:16:40] <hoo>	 Not sure I can be around
[14:16:43] <hoo>	 will try
[14:16:45] <aude>	 ok
[14:16:51] <aude>	 not critical
[14:16:59] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 that's enough I think, no need to put in links to all tasks individually
[14:17:40] <Lucie_WMDE>	 Tobi_WMDE_SW ah, you mean just to the Value View Projekt for example? Yes, that absolutly makes more sense!
[14:17:48] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 Lucie_WMDE: yes
[14:18:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Fall back to page title if wikibase-titletext is n/a [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179135 
[14:18:52] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15frimelle pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/sfYMhQ
[14:18:52] <gh-wmde>	 13ValueView/06master 141d8bf19 15Lucie-Aimée Kaffee: Change link for bugs to links to project instead...
[14:18:54] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 Lucie_WMDE: but the link to the individual task should still be in a comment on the issue itself
[14:19:25] <Lucie_WMDE>	 Tobi_WMDE_SW yes, it is! 
[14:19:43] <aude>	 hoo: would you look at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/178422/ sometime
[14:20:02] <Lucie_WMDE>	 Tobi_WMDE_SW I just have to update the readme of the projects where I closed the migrating bugs already
[14:20:03] <aude>	 maybe no one is using lua on zhwiki? else we broke it
[14:20:03] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 Lucie_WMDE: this kind of link is better: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/918/
[14:20:23] <aude>	 it used to work
[14:20:27] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 instead of https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/valueview/
[14:21:06] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 Lucie_WMDE: not exactly sure why, but I was told by wmf's phabricator experts.. ;)
[14:21:31] <aude>	 Tobi_WMDE_SW: we can watch projects and join them
[14:21:40] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 I think because it does not break when we change the name of the project
[14:21:41] <aude>	 not sure about tags (maybe)
[14:21:45] <aude>	 ah
[14:21:46] <Lucie_WMDE>	 Tobi_WMDE_SW Haha, okay, but how and where did you get this link?
[14:21:52] <Lucie_WMDE>	 Ah, yes, makes sense!
[14:21:59] <hoo>	 aude: How will that play together with requesting languages in non-content language?
[14:22:05] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 Lucie_WMDE: on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/
[14:22:40] <hoo>	 I guess having a simple getLabel() call just return content lang. or fallback is fine
[14:22:48] <aude>	 you want to do that for commons?
[14:22:55] <hoo>	 then we could have getLabel( 'es' ) which doesn't do any fallback
[14:23:01] <aude>	 sure
[14:23:16] <hoo>	 and getLabelInUserLang (or so) which does user lang + (maybe) fallback
[14:23:27] <hoo>	 So that we have fuzzy and non fuzzy stuff
[14:23:29] <aude>	 maybe
[14:23:51] <hoo>	 Just want to make sure we don't do anything with the interface that makes it hard to use
[14:23:56] * aude commented in the bugs about fallback for lua and parser function
[14:23:59] <aude>	 agreaa
[14:24:00] <hoo>	 people tend to hack around our interface and that's horrible
[14:24:02] <aude>	 e*
[14:24:13] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15frimelle pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/AsYSqw
[14:24:13] <gh-wmde>	 13ValueView/06master 14cd392bc 15Lucie-Aimée Kaffee: Edit the Phabricator link in README
[14:24:28] <aude>	 rule #1 if mediawiki development
[14:24:33] <aude>	 people will abuse a feature if it is there
[14:24:51] <hoo>	 Yeah
[14:25:22] <hoo>	 we want to make sure people don't work with the actual serialized data, so that we can do smarter stuff
[14:28:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 04-1] "mostly looks good but see comments" (033 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179135 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[14:29:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 031] "Somebody else want to have an other look? Or should I just merge it?" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178542 (owner: 10Aude)
[14:30:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Fall back to page title if wikibase-titletext is n/a [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179135 
[14:31:23] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseInternalSerialization] 15frimelle pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/oxeERw
[14:31:23] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseInternalSerialization/06master 14b7e7687 15Lucie-Aimée Kaffee: Update README.md
[14:34:06] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseSerializationJavaScript] 15frimelle pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/TBptbw
[14:34:06] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseSerializationJavaScript/06master 14804548a 15Lucie-Aimée Kaffee: Update README.md
[14:34:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Henning Snater: Consolidated RankSelector widget [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179136 
[14:35:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Henning Snater: Removed jQuery.wikibase.claimview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178869 
[14:35:21] <sjoerddebruin>	 Hm, VIAF is slow. :/
[14:35:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS6) 10Henning Snater: Removed jQuery.wikibase.claimview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178869 
[14:37:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hoo man: "This needs to be documented, if it's not yet... also maybe need an announcement... and having an integration test would be awesome." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178422 (owner: 10Aude)
[14:38:40] <hoo>	 aude: The fact that this will make entity:getLabel() and mw.wikibase.getLabel() behave differently is awful
[14:38:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: "as said, it worked before we switched to use the label lookup. i am a bit surprised no one reported this issue. We can at least mention " [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178422 (owner: 10Aude)
[14:39:00] <hoo>	 might make the further lua plans more breaking
[14:39:02] <aude>	 they are the same
[14:39:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "re @thiemo:" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178825 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[14:39:06] <aude>	 afaik
[14:39:15] <aude>	 mw.wikibase.label does fallback
[14:39:38] <hoo>	 uh, mh
[14:39:45] <hoo>	 So long ago that I touched that
[14:40:01] <aude>	 see comments in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/178356/
[14:40:51] <aude>	 https://test2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module:Label applies fallback if the wiki is a variant language
[14:41:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Fall back to page title if wikibase-titletext is n/a (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179135 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[14:41:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Fall back to page title if wikibase-titletext is n/a [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179135 
[14:41:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] "No-op, functionality wise" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178356 (owner: 10Aude)
[14:42:17] <hoo>	 aude: Do you think you can come up with a neat integration test?
[14:42:23] <hoo>	 Or to much work/ to ugly?
[14:42:23] <aude>	 i think so
[14:42:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Henning Snater: statementview: Updated documentation [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179119 
[14:42:35] <aude>	 think it would be important 
[14:42:56] <aude>	 would have been nice to have caught that we were changing the behavior when we switched to use label lookup
[14:43:10] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 hoo: is that https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75460 you're working on?
[14:43:27] <aude>	 just won't be today though since i have bazillion tabs open and doing bazilliont things and leaving in ~1 hour
[14:43:49] <hoo>	 aude: Yeah, ok... wont have time to review later on anyway
[14:43:54] <aude>	 ok
[14:44:04] <hoo>	 Tobi_WMDE_SW: I planned to work on that... but then dumps stuff etc. got in between
[14:44:23] <hoo>	 still on my list, of course
[14:44:38] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 hoo: ok, we kept it in the sprint, but will just remove it if you cannot work on it because nobody else will
[14:45:21] <hoo>	 Tobi_WMDE_SW: Next week, I will
[14:45:28] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 ok great
[14:45:32] <hoo>	 unless something else blows up and I need to do firefighting again
[14:47:01] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 sure :)
[14:47:41] * aude did profiling of the client again, comparing same item to one 1.25wmf6
[14:47:52] <aude>	 more than twice as fast now, although we have more work to do still
[14:47:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Use one instance of SerializationOptions in WikibaseLuaBindings [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178356 (owner: 10Aude)
[14:48:28] <aude>	 not loading all the entities must help a bit in this case
[14:48:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Focus referenceview when adding a new referenceview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178821 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[14:48:47] <hoo>	 yeah
[14:48:53] <hoo>	 also optimizing client will help
[14:48:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Focus snakview when adding a new snakview to a referenceview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178822 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[14:48:56] <hoo>	 a bit
[14:49:00] <aude>	 yeah
[14:49:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Focus new snakview when adding a qualifier [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178823 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[14:49:39] * aude doesn't think wikibase stuff should be loaded much at all or any e.g. for my user page
[14:49:49] <aude>	 which is excluded namespace (on wikipedia)
[14:49:54] <hoo>	 Yeah
[14:50:01] <hoo>	 also special pages etc.
[14:50:07] <hoo>	 that's what I was looking at yesterday
[14:50:13] <aude>	 yeah, although technically they can have links in the sidebar
[14:50:25] <aude>	 they do for recentchanges but maybe that's silly and not worth it
[14:51:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Focus referenceview when adding a new referenceview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178821 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[14:54:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Focus new snakview when adding a qualifier [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178823 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[14:57:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Daniel Kinzler: Filter labels by languages earlier. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178844 
[14:59:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Henning Snater: Consolidated RankSelector widget [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179136 
[14:59:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: Filter labels by languages earlier. (0310 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178844 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[14:59:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Narrow DirectSqlStore to use languageCode instead of Language [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178519 
[15:00:26] <hashar>	 Tobi_WMDE_SW: Jenkins switch to some random language from time to time indeed :
[15:00:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Filter labels by languages earlier. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178844 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[15:03:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Make stuff private in some Lib\Store lookups [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178521 
[15:03:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Consolidated RankSelector widget [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179136 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[15:03:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Narrow DirectSqlStore to use languageCode instead of Language [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178519 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[15:06:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 04-1] Filter labels by languages earlier. (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178844 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[15:11:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Henning Snater: Updated RankSelector code documentation [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179138 
[15:13:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: Filter labels by languages earlier. (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178844 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[15:18:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): "None of the arguments given does make much sense." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/177237 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[15:19:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Henning Snater: statementview: Updated documentation [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179119 
[15:23:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 04-1] "if entity does not have fingerprint, I think we can still fallback to using the ID for the title text." (033 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179135 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[15:24:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: "recheck" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178519 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[15:25:16] <aude>	 aaaaah gerrit is unavaialbe
[15:26:09] <aude>	 back
[15:28:47] <jzerebecki>	 https://tools.wmflabs.org/widar/index.php?action=authorize is broken :(
[15:29:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 04-1] "sorry if the task was confusing about "one place". technically client, repo and lib are three extensions. we need one consistent place p" (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179131 (owner: 10Unicodesnowman)
[15:31:53] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Tobi_WMDE_SW: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T62427 <- wontfix?
[15:32:30] <Tpt>	 Is it normal that someone is closing all issues of WikibaseDatamodel in GitHub ?
[15:33:22] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 Tpt: these issues should now be tracked on phabricator
[15:33:27] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 Lydia_WMDE: not sure
[15:33:52] <Tpt>	 Tobi_WMDE_SW: ok. Thank you
[15:34:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Narrow DirectSqlStore to use languageCode instead of Language [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178519 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[15:34:24] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 Tpt: there should be a link to the task on phabricator on each of the issues
[15:34:30] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15frimelle pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/tzFUCQ
[15:34:30] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06master 14a2b0304 15Lucie-Aimée Kaffee: Add link to bugs on Phabricator
[15:34:47] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 Tpt: and a link to the overall project of the component in the reamde
[15:35:02] <Tpt>	 Tobi_WMDE_SW: thanks
[15:35:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Make stuff private in some Lib\Store lookups [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178521 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[15:35:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Henning Snater: statementview: Updated documentation [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179119 
[15:35:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Henning Snater: Refactored statementview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179120 
[15:35:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Henning Snater: Consolidated RankSelector widget [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179136 
[15:36:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Henning Snater: Updated RankSelector code documentation [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179138 
[15:37:44] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Narrow DirectSqlStore to use languageCode instead of Language [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178519 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[15:40:28] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15tobijat pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/vcA4YA
[15:40:28] <gh-wmde>	 13WikidataBrowserTests/06master 147e20e34 15Tobias Gritschacher: Add sleep during adding multiple reference-snaks...
[15:42:05] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15tobijat pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/jvC06g
[15:42:05] <gh-wmde>	 13WikidataBrowserTests/06master 14a7a654f 15Tobias Gritschacher: Adjust accessor to error tooltip
[15:42:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Refactored statementview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179120 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[15:42:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] "Tested. Should be fine." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178820 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[15:42:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Make stuff private in some Lib\Store lookups [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178521 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[15:43:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] Focus referenceview when adding a new referenceview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178821 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[15:43:24] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] Focus snakview when adding a new snakview to a referenceview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178822 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[15:43:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] Focus new snakview when adding a qualifier [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178823 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[15:48:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Returning promise in $.wikibase.listview.enterNewItem() [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178820 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[15:50:09] <lbenedix>	 Do you have usage-data (editcount, pageview, etc.) from test.wikidata.org?
[15:50:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Focus referenceview when adding a new referenceview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178821 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[15:50:18] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Focus snakview when adding a new snakview to a referenceview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178822 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[15:50:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Focus new snakview when adding a qualifier [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178823 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[15:50:46] <hoo|lecture>	 lbenedix: Look at Special:statistics
[15:50:51] <hoo|lecture>	 but that wont give you page views
[15:51:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 031] Fall back to page title if wikibase-titletext is n/a (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179135 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[15:52:48] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 Lydia_WMDE: f you are fine with the result of https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75651, we can close it
[15:53:07] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 probably we should copy-paste the result to the task
[15:53:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10JanZerebecki: [C: 032] Fix missing/unused private properties in DirectSqlStore [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178522 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[15:53:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: Fall back to page title if wikibase-titletext is n/a (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179135 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[15:53:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: "would prefer unrelated things not mixed in, but otherwise patch looks ok to me" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179135 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[15:53:36] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Tobi_WMDE_SW: had that one open question about number of edits still but then good to close
[15:54:24] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 Lydia_WMDE: posted the info from the mail to the task
[15:54:29] <Lydia_WMDE>	 thx
[15:54:35] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 could you add a comment what exactly is missing
[15:54:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Aude: Avoid fatal in ParserAfterParser hook handling [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179143 
[15:55:05] <Lydia_WMDE>	 k
[15:55:27] <aude>	 Lydia_WMDE: please keep https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T73772 open until it is fixed in Math extension
[15:55:35] <lbenedix>	 hoo: edits/day would be great and I think you dont save this statistics when test.wikidata is restarted
[15:55:45] * aude doesn't consider our workarounds an adequate solution
[15:56:16] <Lydia_WMDE>	 k
[15:56:44] <hoo|lecture>	 lbenedix: test.wikidata.org has never been "restarted" and we don't plan to do so
[15:57:03] <lbenedix>	 I meant resetted
[15:57:04] <hoo|lecture>	 if you need more statistics you might want to look at the MySQL tables on tool labs
[15:57:09] <hoo|lecture>	 No, not planned
[15:57:29] <aude>	 never been reset
[15:58:13] <Lydia_WMDE>	 lbenedix: what are you trying to do?
[15:58:37] <Lydia_WMDE>	 maybe then we can help you better
[15:59:27] <lbenedix>	 I want to know how active the community is on test
[15:59:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] "Trivial" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179143 (owner: 10Aude)
[16:00:02] <aude>	 thanks :)
[16:00:13] <aude>	 might want to backport
[16:03:54] <hoo|lecture>	 aude: When did that break?
[16:03:58] <hoo|lecture>	 That's not new code, is it?
[16:04:05] <aude>	 maybe from usage tracking?
[16:04:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Avoid fatal in ParserAfterParser hook handling [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179143 (owner: 10Aude)
[16:04:15] <hoo|lecture>	 Lydia_WMDE: Added Q183 to the weekly summary
[16:04:15] <aude>	 idk, but seems new
[16:04:21] <hoo|lecture>	 not sure worth noting there
[16:04:24] <Lydia_WMDE>	 hoo|lecture: thanks!
[16:04:27] <Lydia_WMDE>	 it is
[16:04:35] <Lydia_WMDE>	 ok off to christmas party
[16:04:38] <Lydia_WMDE>	 laters folks :)
[16:04:52] <aude>	 everyone is runnign away
[16:05:35] <hoo|lecture>	 cu :)
[16:07:44] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10JanZerebecki: [C: 04-1] "Small tweaks." (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178524 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[16:11:05] <hoo|lecture>	 aude: So... shall I prepare a backport etc.?
[16:11:08] <hoo|lecture>	 Not sure how important
[16:11:17] <hoo|lecture>	 and can't look into private logs here
[16:11:22] <hoo|lecture>	 may have shoulder surfers
[16:11:51] * hoo|lecture waves to people eventually reading from the row behind
[16:16:19] <hoo|lecture>	 aude: Lost connection :S
[19:27:37] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModelSerialization] 15JeroenDeDauw pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/qKdVPg
[19:27:37] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModelSerialization/06master 1469ead4f 15Jeroen De Dauw: Merge pull request #102 from wmde/options...
[19:36:24] <Ainali>	 If songs are used in other works (movies or TV-episodes) should they be in the item of the work and if so, is P658 Tracklist the one to use?
[20:43:23] <Ainali>	 (Trying again): If songs are used in other works (like movies or TV episodes) should they be in the item of the work? And if so, is P658 Tracklist the one to use?
[20:44:02] <sjoerddebruin>	 Not that property.
[20:44:12] <sjoerddebruin>	 Let's see if I can find a better one.
[20:46:19] <sjoerddebruin>	 Hm, I think we don't have a property for that.
[20:47:33] <Ainali>	 sjoerddebruin: Oh. Perhaps I should start a proposal for it?
[20:48:19] <sjoerddebruin>	 I think we should remove the fictional entity-limit of https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1441 , so you can use that on the song itself.
[20:48:39] <giftzwerg>	 hi out there
[20:49:07] <Ainali>	 sjoerddebruin: Yes, that might be a way to do it
[20:49:32] <sjoerddebruin>	 Then make a reverse property for on the film...
[20:49:46] <giftzwerg>	 Is there somebody who can tell me more about WiDaR
[20:49:49] <sjoerddebruin>	 There is a proposal on the talk page.
[20:50:06] <Ainali>	 sjoerddebruin: Or could perhaps https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P527 be used which is very general?
[20:50:19] <sjoerddebruin>	 Hm, no.
[20:50:37] <sjoerddebruin>	 giftzwerg: not now, because it's not working atm.
[20:51:08] <giftzwerg>	 that was my quation. I cant log in for about 24 h
[20:51:22] <giftzwerg>	 sorry my QUESTION
[20:51:29] <sjoerddebruin>	 We know about it.
[20:52:10] <giftzwerg>	 is the problem solveable
[20:52:33] <sjoerddebruin>	 Not at your or my side. You should ask Magnus (the tool owner).
[20:54:15] <giftzwerg>	 He hasn´been involved ´till now?
[20:54:30] <sjoerddebruin>	 Yeah, but most of the problems were at the side of Wikimedia.
[20:57:00] <giftzwerg>	 i can´t understand that.  There also was a problem with the edit counters of Magnus. The tools are too popular so the usage might surpass the capability of the servers(!?)
[20:57:49] <sjoerddebruin>	 Magnus and edit counters?
[20:58:16] <sjoerddebruin>	 Oh, maybe YuviPanda can help. He has access to some parts.
[20:58:33] <giftzwerg>	 ther servers, thats why peple donate, for servers, not for salries. 
[20:58:52] <YuviPanda>	 what… did I do now?
[20:59:02] <sjoerddebruin>	 YuviPanda: Widar is broken. :(
[20:59:11] <YuviPanda>	 I’m not sure what I can do :(
[20:59:23] <YuviPanda>	 I can try restarting it, but not sure if that’ll be of any help
[20:59:30] <sjoerddebruin>	 Not really.
[20:59:36] <YuviPanda>	 yeah
[20:59:37] <sjoerddebruin>	 Maybe you can poke Magnus with your bamboo.
[20:59:58] <YuviPanda>	 remember nobody’s given me bamboo
[21:00:16] <YuviPanda>	 I can email him but so can anyone :) And I don’t even use widar
[21:00:41] <giftzwerg>	 Pandas eat bamboo, so how can you live without bamboo ;-)
[21:00:59] <bd808>	 Magnus makes a lot of cool tools but really too many for one person to reasonably maintain. He should have an army of volunteer followers who keep the best bits working.
[21:01:05] <YuviPanda>	 let me restart it, what’s the worst that can happen
[21:01:11] <giftzwerg>	 we are allready discussing the problem with widar
[21:01:11] <YuviPanda>	 bd808: yeah, +1. 
[21:01:27] <YuviPanda>	 giftzwerg: I… restarted it, which is pretty much the only thing I can do
[21:01:58] <YuviPanda>	 bd808: I worked with him to puppetize WDQ since way too many people depend on it. is now running load balanced across two hosts with health checks, which should drastically improve availability
[21:02:24] <giftzwerg>	 i have the same problem, restart does not help, WiDaR is down, so you can not log in for editing. Serching works still
[21:02:53] <bd808>	 YuviPanda: Nice. Once Nik and Stas build a good backend to replace the query hacks it will be much better.
[21:02:55] <sjoerddebruin>	 Yeah, because WDQ != Widar.
[21:03:16] <YuviPanda>	 yeah, true.
[21:03:27] <YuviPanda>	 I’ve no idea how to help, though :( sorry
[21:07:14] <giftzwerg>	 There are so many things pending. For how long do we use the search buttons of Wikipedia, and how long are we waiting for some easy way to sort the results?
[21:08:13] <giftzwerg>	 when will the queries be implemented in WD?
[21:08:39] <YuviPanda>	 giftzwerg: that’s what bd808 mentioned as Nik and Stas working on
[21:08:43] <YuviPanda>	 I’m not sure of a timeline
[21:09:33] <SMalyshev>	 I'm working on Titan prototype right now and there's also some work happening on other options
[21:09:58] <YuviPanda>	 SMalyshev: do you have a rough timeline? 6months-1year? 3-6months? pessimistically speaking
[21:10:03] <SMalyshev>	 check out https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikibase/Indexing if you're interested
[21:10:14] <bd808>	 "as soon as it works and will scale" YuviPanda 
[21:10:20] <YuviPanda>	 :)
[21:10:31] <sjoerddebruin>	 :)
[21:10:43] <bd808>	 Setting a date at this point is just asking for trouble
[21:11:04] <SMalyshev>	 YuviPanda: I'm not sure. Like, I can get the dump into Titan right now and run _some_ queries (see talk page on that page for the examples) but making a product out of it and ensuring it's viable/performant is the trick
[21:11:17] <YuviPanda>	 right
[21:11:53] <YuviPanda>	 I’ll work with magnus on making wdq more reliable for now 
[21:12:05] <giftzwerg>	 Is there any other tool around to do the job?
[21:12:51] <SMalyshev>	 so next week probably would be perf testing on Titan for me, then we'd see how it proceeds. If it's well then we can resonable expect something in moths' terms. If not, then who knows ;)
[21:13:22] <SMalyshev>	 YuviPanda: also depends on what kind of queries you want to do on it. Have some examples?
[21:13:54] <YuviPanda>	 SMalyshev: not really :) I was just poking around to see how much effort I should put into stabilizing WDQ :)
[21:14:15] <YuviPanda>	 giftzwerg: have you tried emailing magnus?
[21:14:25] <SMalyshev>	 YuviPanda: ok, that I don't know. on the Titan side, we're working on it, but not ready just yet :)
[21:15:00] <YuviPanda>	 yeah, that info is good enough for me :) thanks SMalyshev!
[21:15:38] <giftzwerg>	 i´v just taken all my possible bot edits as bookmarks. But somehow i´m stuck now. I have´nt mailed magnus. I´thought the problem is allready known to him.
[21:16:08] <sjoerddebruin>	 Don't forget, people have real lives. :)
[21:16:35] <giftzwerg>	 is there any differenc if somebody has a bot-flag?
[21:19:11] * YuviPanda gives sjoerddebruin bamboo
[21:19:19] <sjoerddebruin>	 I'm not a panda.
[21:19:27] <Stryn>	 lol
[21:22:04] <giftzwerg>	 just eat it, it will make you flexible andf gives endurance, you just migth get trouble in swallowing the fibres ;-)
[21:22:31] <sjoerddebruin>	 Need to talk with my doctor first. :)
[21:29:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Ricordisamoa: Replace deprecated configuration variable $wgSpecialPageGroups (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/178804 (owner: 10Ricordisamoa)
[21:31:44] <giftzwerg>	 Ive sent magnus an e-mail now.
[21:45:25] <giftzwerg>	 i´ve anothet problem with the Wikidata glossary
[21:46:28] <giftzwerg>	 I just cant figure out what " Both claims and statements is ''reified statements'' as described in [[#Linked data|linked data]] " really means.
[21:47:39] <giftzwerg>	 "reified statements" just makes no sense in my ears and my eyes. I just don´t get the meaning of this phrase
[21:51:44] <giftzwerg>	 reified .... it just goes round in my head: refined, rectified, rifeled, recieved....
[22:14:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Unicodesnowman: Move all sql schema files to repo/sql/ [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179131 
[22:16:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Unicodesnowman: "Thanks, makes sense!" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179131 (owner: 10Unicodesnowman)
[22:19:18] <Guest43778>	 Hi @all!
[22:19:22] <Guest43778>	 Is there anyone who can help with Wikidata Toolkit?
[22:21:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Unicodesnowman: Move all sql schema files to repo/sql/ [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179131 
[22:28:11] <sjoerddebruin>	 Guest43778: no, sorry. :(
[23:46:50] <giftzwerg>	 time to go now
[23:46:58] <giftzwerg>	 bye