[00:02:03] How would I go about fetching all items that relate to a certain date? (Either API or labs.) [00:02:16] * w930913 still hasn't got his head round wikidata. [01:06:20] does anyone know if there is a cloud rdf triple store provider that offers fast query performance? [01:06:37] I have about 140M triples, so big but not enormous, but on my hardware I can't get good query performance. [01:14:28] ningu: http://dydra.com/ maybe [01:18:39] Dereckson: thanks, that's the one I already know about, was wondering if there were others :) I am in touch with them about their plans but haven't heard back yet on pricing [01:18:51] ningu: there is also GrapheneDB. According http://www.graphenedb.com/pricing.html it's 100$/month for 1 GB RAM and 4 Go storage. [01:19:03] hmm ok. that's kind of expensive. [01:19:07] but good to know. [01:19:33] they have a plan at 50$, but I'm not sure 512 Mo RAM will be okay for 140M items. [01:19:45] yeah, I doubt it. even 1GB might be pushing it. [01:19:57] what's your hardware by the way? [01:19:59] I currently have a GCE instance with 60GB RAM and SSD storage. [01:20:20] I've tried a few different databases -- neo4j (very slow insert times so I kinda gave up), 4store, jena/fuseki [01:21:21] I would like to speak with OCLC tech guys if I were you, they manipulate a lot of RDF triple records. [01:22:11] basically this is a graph of dictionary translations -- so I can do a SPARQL query to translate from language A to B, but I can tell it to do so directly (i.e. there is a dictionary source mapping them) or indirectly (so A to X to B where X is an intermediate language). [01:22:24] the issue arises when those search paths include two intermediate languages. none or one is fine. [01:23:19] OCLC... the library catalog? [01:24:46] I have one query that has two intermediate languages in the path and it returns about 18k results, which is a lot but not ridiculous. but it must be a very expensive query because it took 2 hours for jena + fuseki on my hardware. whereas if there is only one intermediate language, it's a second or a few seconds. [01:27:17] Yes this OCLC. [01:32:53] ok, thanks. will get in touch with them. :) right now we have a postgresql database as the main db and I am exploring graph dbs as an alternative. [01:33:27] postgresql is actually not so bad in terms of speed, but the queries are a bit complex. [07:58:11] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: jQuery.wikibase.***view widgets "startEditing" should not be smart about focus - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54019 (10Henning) 5RESO/FIX>3PATC [07:59:22] (03CR) 10Henning Snater: "-> 54019" (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/171555 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [08:06:33] (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Empty the default ID blacklist [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172504 [08:12:12] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: monolingual text does not accept sr-cyrl and a number of other language codes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/72126#c4 (10jeblad) I think it is important to fix this for the mono-/multilingual text as it create a situation where official names in some official langua... [08:13:09] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Empty the default ID blacklist [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172504 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [08:35:26] (03PS1) 10Henning Snater: Added TemplatedWidget QUnit tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172506 [08:35:28] (03PS1) 10Henning Snater: Implemented EditableTemplated widget [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172507 [08:36:07] (03PS2) 10Henning Snater: Implemented EditableTemplatedWidget [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172507 [08:54:58] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataClient: Wikidata's JS tool at Wikipedia doesn't recognize Template:category redirect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/73254 (10reza1615) 3NEW p:3Unprio s:3normal a:3Wikidata bugs Wikidata's JS tool at Wikipedia doesn't recognize Template:category redirect. it should... [08:58:10] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: Unify view-implementations in JS frontend - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/72666#c1 (10Henning) https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/172507/ [09:23:11] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: Unify view-implementations in JS frontend - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/72666#c2 (10Adrian Lang) From my point of view, steps could be: * Make a list of interfaces and behaviours our widgets possess * Extract common interfaces (might not be code interfaces, since... [09:28:11] DanielK_WMDE_: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Contact_the_development_team#Can.27t_change_rank_only_2 [09:28:40] (03PS1) 10Adrian Lang: Fix detection of multiple empty listitems in sitelinklistview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172510 [09:29:25] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: Unify view-implementations in JS frontend - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/72666#c3 (10Adrian Lang) Despite the last sentence in my previous comment I still think Henning's patch is an improvement and could be merged :) [09:38:08] Amir1: I guess we still have many empty items as result of merges? [09:38:35] multichill|work|: yeah [09:39:14] (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: "The ›generic‹ error message is specific to the action the user tried (saving). The ›specific‹ error message is specific to the error, but " [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/171247 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [09:39:17] I delete about 10K items every time dumps got updated [09:41:01] Amir1: Did you see https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Multichill/To_redirect ? [09:42:17] Looks like it needs an update [09:45:01] multichill|work|: if you update it, I can write a code to redirect them [09:45:32] It's updating [09:45:39] https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q5730935&diff=171172958&oldid=169309624 <- looks like someone wrote a bot for it [09:50:01] multichill|work|: cool [09:50:39] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Multichill/To_redirect is up to date [09:50:50] (03PS3) 10Adrian Lang: Introduce EntityInfoTermLookup. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/171813 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/72307) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [09:50:59] 1865 items [09:52:12] (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: "Rebase." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/171813 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/72307) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [10:00:45] (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: [C: 04-1] Introduce EntityInfoTermLookup. (035 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/171813 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/72307) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [10:05:24] (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: "I'd love to get this in before doing bug 66419." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/164297 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [10:05:49] (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: "I'd love to get this in before doing bug 66419." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/171247 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [10:07:42] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: Do not update entity cache on null-edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/73257 (10Daniel Kinzler) 3NEW p:3Unprio s:3normal a:3Wikidata bugs When saving an entity without changing it, the MediaWiki storage layer (WikiPage) will not create a new revision (it pe... [10:12:28] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: API modules should report null-edits as such - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/73258 (10Daniel Kinzler) [10:12:28] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: Do not update entity cache on null-edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/73257 (10Daniel Kinzler) [10:12:28] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: API modules should report null-edits as such - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/73258 (10Daniel Kinzler) 3NEW p:3Unprio s:3normal a:3Wikidata bugs Our API modules currently report null-edits as if they actually caused the entity to change (the result contains th... [10:12:43] Lydia_WMDE: bug 73257 and bug 73258 [10:12:56] DanielK_WMDE_: thanks! will post it on the page [10:14:31] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): "Ok, for reference, with this patch:" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/171247 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [10:15:58] (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: "It's the other way round, right?" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/171247 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [10:20:13] (03PS8) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Removed focus smartness from snakview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/171555 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54019) (owner: 10Henning Snater) [10:20:56] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): "Ok. I will merge this today, just want to give Adrian a chance to see it." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/171555 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54019) (owner: 10Henning Snater) [10:21:40] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): "Yes, it is." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/171247 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [10:25:23] (03CR) 10Aude: Implement EntityParserOutputGeneratorFactory (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/171528 (owner: 10Aude) [10:27:22] (03CR) 10Aude: Implement EntityParserOutputGeneratorFactory (037 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/171528 (owner: 10Aude) [10:27:29] (03PS6) 10Aude: restructure OutputFormatSnakFormatterFactory [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172267 [10:27:31] (03PS11) 10Aude: Implement EntityParserOutputGeneratorFactory [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/171528 [10:28:46] (03PS4) 10Daniel Kinzler: Introduce EntityInfoTermLookup. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/171813 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/72307) [10:28:50] Adrian_WMDE: --^ [10:30:53] DanielK_WMDE_: What do you think about the record thing? [10:32:11] Adrian_WMDE: read my reply [10:32:19] Not published [10:32:22] o_O [10:32:24] whut? [10:32:32] bah [10:32:51] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: Introduce EntityInfoTermLookup. (035 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/171813 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/72307) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [10:33:33] Adrian_WMDE: sorry - "commented" on the new patch set (which didn't have any comments) [10:33:47] the anser is "yes, but" [10:34:22] works for me [10:36:34] [13Geo] 15thiemowmde 04force-pushed 06detection from 14d8bfeb4 to 14a917041: 02http://git.io/KP3DGA [10:36:34] 13Geo/06detection 14324d656 15Thiemo Mättig: Clean up [10:36:34] 13Geo/06detection 14a917041 15Thiemo Mättig: Refined precision detection [10:37:00] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "Looking at the patch, it seems like the more specific localization is removed. But... the actual effect is that it's now shown? I'm confus" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/171247 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [10:37:36] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] restructure OutputFormatSnakFormatterFactory [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172267 (owner: 10Aude) [10:37:46] [13Geo] 15thiemowmde 04force-pushed 06detection from 14a917041 to 14c24749e: 02http://git.io/KP3DGA [10:37:46] 13Geo/06detection 14c24749e 15Thiemo Mättig: Refined precision detection [10:38:17] aaaah [10:51:55] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: Displaying (and editing) the calendar model of time values is confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/70395#c5 (10Henning) I am in for that--it is the same behaviour than it was before, although, back then, the front-end parser applied conversion when changing the... [11:07:54] (03PS1) 10Adrian Lang: Move wikibase.RepoApi{,Error} to wikibase.api [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172522 [11:07:56] (03PS1) 10Adrian Lang: Move RepoApi{,Error} usages [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172523 [11:08:49] (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: "Apparently Thiemo and Daniel would be much more happier with this is if the details were not hidden." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/171247 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [11:09:01] (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: [C: 032] Introduce EntityInfoTermLookup. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/171813 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/72307) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [11:09:49] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "After some discussion & consideration: Getting rid of redundant specific information in the API is good; We should however first make sure" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/171247 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [11:11:02] (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: "Files have to be moved afterwards, too." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172522 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [11:14:26] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: Move JS WikibaseAPI code into its own component - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66419#c10 (10Adrian Lang) https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172522 moves RepoApi to wb.api Still have to do the message duplication and removal of dependency on 'wikibase' resource loader m... [11:17:44] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Move wikibase.RepoApi{,Error} to wikibase.api [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172522 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [11:17:46] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Move RepoApi{,Error} usages [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172523 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [11:18:17] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Introduce EntityInfoTermLookup. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/171813 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/72307) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [11:19:28] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: Implement a TermLookup based on entity info arrays - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/72307 (10Lydia Pintscher) 5PATC>3RESO/FIX [11:21:33] (03PS2) 10Adrian Lang: Move RepoApi{,Error} usages [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172523 [11:21:35] (03PS2) 10Adrian Lang: Move wikibase.RepoApi{,Error} to wikibase.api [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172522 [11:22:11] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: API modules should report null-edits as such - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/73258 (10Lydia Pintscher) p:5Unprio>3Normal [11:22:41] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: Do not update entity cache on null-edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/73257 (10Lydia Pintscher) p:5Unprio>3Normal [11:26:25] DanielK_WMDE_: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/168276/ [11:28:25] (03PS1) 10Tobias Gritschacher: New Wikidata Build - 2014/11/11 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172526 [11:30:06] Lydia_WMDE: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MobileFrontend/WikiGrok/Claim_suggestions [11:32:37] (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] New Wikidata Build - 2014/11/11 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172526 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher) [11:34:49] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: New Wikidata Build - 2014/11/11 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172526 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher) [11:38:25] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: New serialization code needs to support language fallback - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/72183 (10tobias.gritschacher) 5ASSI>3PATC [11:38:57] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: Review and tag new version of PropertySuggester - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/72632 (10tobias.gritschacher) 5ASSI>3RESO/FIX [11:48:28] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: Make SqlStore::rebuildPropertyInfo non-static - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/73261 (10Adrian Lang) 3NEW p:3Unprio s:3normal a:3Wikidata bugs static is bad. [11:48:44] (03PS3) 10Adrian Lang: Make SqlStore::rebuildPropertyInfo non-static [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/168276 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/73261) [11:51:56] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Make SqlStore::rebuildPropertyInfo non-static [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/168276 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/73261) (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [11:55:03] jzerebecki: I'm very amased by the discussion about the bug status thing :D [11:55:18] trolololo [11:55:33] muahahahaaa.. [11:55:42] !nyan | jeblad [11:55:42] jeblad: ~=[,,_,,]:3 [11:56:14] Let me repeat, as it is utterly important: Muahahahaaaa [11:56:32] trebanks are boring. ;/ [11:56:49] JeroenDeDauw: not sure what you mean? [11:57:31] jzerebecki: with that bug about moving all of the wikidatas from gerrit probably? [11:57:37] *from github [12:01:08] JeroenDeDauw: i'm fine with his point of view when logically thought to the end and i'm allowed to argue the same way. [12:13:57] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: UI broken for Julian calendar model dates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/70398#c1 (10Andre Klapper) This ticket has been "highest" priority for five weeks, without any points assigned. Is that realistic? [12:22:33] Hah. Recursion (Q179976) is an "instance of" recursion (Q179976). [12:28:08] Heh. That never gets old [12:34:50] (03PS3) 10Henning Snater: Implemented EditableTemplatedWidget [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172507 [12:36:35] (03PS4) 10Henning Snater: Implemented EditableTemplatedWidget [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172507 [12:42:40] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: UI broken for Julian calendar model dates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/70398#c2 (10Lydia Pintscher) Yes. Solutions are being discussed in the other bug in "see also". [12:47:53] [13WikibaseDataModelSerialization] 15thiemowmde created 06optimize (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/whBgPQ [12:47:53] 13WikibaseDataModelSerialization/06optimize 145c9d7bf 15Thiemo Mättig: Optimize imports [12:49:01] [13WikibaseDataModelSerialization] 15thiemowmde opened pull request #98: Optimize imports (06master...06optimize) 02http://git.io/d6lEuw [12:55:10] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: clear in wbeditentity does not remove claims - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/67791#c5 (10Liangent) 5RESO/FIX>3REOP It seems this bug is appearing again: edit #1: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q2846039&diff=prev&oldid=173058084 edit #2: https://www.w... [13:33:57] [13WikibaseDataModelSerialization] 15JeroenDeDauw closed pull request #98: Optimize imports (06master...06optimize) 02http://git.io/d6lEuw [13:44:42] Lydia_WMDE: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata-tech/2014-August/000546.html [13:45:22] (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Consistent SiteLink naming and dead code removed [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172541 [14:30:24] (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Add irc to the allowed URL schemas [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172545 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/72924) [14:33:21] (03CR) 10Aude: Add irc to the allowed URL schemas (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172545 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/72924) (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [14:33:34] (03PS2) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Add irc to the allowed URL schemas [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172545 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/72924) [14:35:17] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] "yay! :)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172545 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/72924) (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [14:37:58] 3Wikimedia / 3Wikidata: Add irc:// support to URL datatype - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/72924 (10Thiemo Mättig) 5PATC>3RESO/FIX [14:39:25] 3Wikimedia / 3Wikidata: Add irc schema to urlSchemes configuration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/73091#c1 (10Thiemo Mättig) 5NEW>3RESO/FIX Fixed in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172545 (which I accidentally linked to the wrong bug). [14:41:43] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add irc to the allowed URL schemas [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172545 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/72924) (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [14:57:25] (03PS1) 10Adrian Lang: Move templates from lib to repo [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172547 [15:21:11] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: Browsertests for statements on properties - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/72664 (10tobias.gritschacher) 5ASSI>3NEW [15:21:42] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: New serialization code needs to support language fallback - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/72183 (10tobias.gritschacher) [15:22:13] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: Use terms-lookup service in EntityID formatters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/72036 (10tobias.gritschacher) [15:29:48] Lydia_WMDE: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/171247/ [15:30:11] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: Move JS WikibaseAPI code into its own component - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66419 (10tobias.gritschacher) [15:30:26] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: Reuse EntityInfoBuilder arrays when generating html - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62724 (10tobias.gritschacher) [15:33:32] DanielK_WMDE_: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73264 [15:33:41] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: Refactor EntityView Instantiation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/73264 (10tobias.gritschacher) 5NEW>3ASSI p:5Unprio>3High [15:33:53] can you check if that expresses what you mentioned during the meeting. feel free to add a comment [15:34:26] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: Reuse EntityInfoBuilder arrays when generating html - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62724 (10tobias.gritschacher) [15:34:27] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: Refactor EntityView Instantiation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/73264 (10tobias.gritschacher) [15:35:23] is there something wrong with the interface at the moment i cant seem to edit? [15:41:22] How would I go about fetching all items that relate to a certain date? (Either API or labs.) [15:42:15] (03PS5) 10Henning Snater: Implemented EditableTemplatedWidget [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172507 [15:45:12] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: coordinate precision issue - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64820#c18 (10tobias.gritschacher) This bug can be closed when: - https://github.com/DataValues/Geo/pull/29 got merged. - A new version of data-values/geo has been tagged. - It has been verified on wikidata.be... [15:45:31] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: coordinate precision issue - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64820 (10tobias.gritschacher) [15:46:56] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: Investigate how prefetching labels would work for watchlist and recent changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/72309#c1 (10tobias.gritschacher) 5NEW>3ASSI Needs input from WMF-people. DanielK and/or aude are going to write an E-Mail. [15:48:25] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: Do not load full entities when invoking LinkBegin hook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/70767 (10tobias.gritschacher) 5NEW>3ASSI [15:49:13] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataClient: Usage Tracking: hook up Lua functions to record entity usage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/71288 (10tobias.gritschacher) [15:50:13] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: Use pre-fetched labels throughout EntityView - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/68019#c1 (10tobias.gritschacher) 5NEW>3RESO/DUP Identified as duplicate in SprintStart Meeting on 2014-11-11. *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 62724 *** [15:50:27] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: Reuse EntityInfoBuilder arrays when generating html - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62724#c4 (10tobias.gritschacher) *** Bug 68019 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** [15:50:37] is Henning_WMDE here? [15:50:58] hi dennyvrandecic [16:03:41] 3Wikimedia / 3Wikidata: Add irc schema to urlSchemes configuration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/73091 (10tobias.gritschacher) [16:04:11] 3Wikimedia / 3Wikidata: Add featured portal badge - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/73193 (10tobias.gritschacher) 5NEW>3ASSI [16:05:11] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: remove the exclusive edit mode behaviour - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/73221 (10tobias.gritschacher) 5NEW>3ASSI [16:07:54] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): "I don't think we can block everything on this single message. At the same time I don't think we can merge this as it is." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/171247 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [16:22:13] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: Always display calendar name for dates that are not Gregorian after year 1581 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/73270 (10tobias.gritschacher) 3NEW p:3Unprio s:3normal a:3Wikidata bugs see https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70395#c5 [16:22:55] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: Displaying (and editing) the calendar model of time values is confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/70395#c6 (10denny vrandecic) OK, I will not fight for the multiple defaults even though they make total sense to me. But displaying the calendar model always does... [16:23:12] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: Displaying (and editing) the calendar model of time values is confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/70395 (10tobias.gritschacher) [16:23:13] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: Always display calendar name for dates that are not Gregorian after year 1581 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/73270 (10tobias.gritschacher) 5NEW>3ASSI p:5Unprio>3High [16:28:27] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: Time-Parser should detect most likely calendar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/73272 (10tobias.gritschacher) 3NEW p:3Unprio s:3normal a:3Wikidata bugs see https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70395#c5 [16:28:40] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: Time-Parser should detect most likely calendar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/73272 (10tobias.gritschacher) p:5Unprio>3Normal [16:28:58] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: Displaying (and editing) the calendar model of time values is confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/70395 (10tobias.gritschacher) [16:31:41] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: Displaying (and editing) the calendar model of time values is confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/70395#c7 (10tobias.gritschacher) *** Bug 70398 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** [16:31:41] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: UI broken for Julian calendar model dates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/70398#c3 (10tobias.gritschacher) 5NEW>3RESO/DUP *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 70395 *** [16:44:59] (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Remove my email address [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172564 [16:48:06] [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15thiemowmde created 06myMail (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/6dv-Vw [16:48:06] 13WikidataBrowserTests/06myMail 1462ad91a 15Thiemo Mättig: Remove my email address [16:48:28] [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15thiemowmde opened pull request #22: Remove my email address (06master...06myMail) 02http://git.io/NsQ8vw [16:48:41] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: UI: Create specifications for sticky notification bar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/72614 (10tobias.gritschacher) 5NEW>3ASSI [16:48:42] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: UI: Implement sticky notification bar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/72419 (10tobias.gritschacher) 5NEW>3ASSI [16:57:43] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: Sitelink UI: wrap everything except sitelinks in separate div - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/73276 (10tobias.gritschacher) 3NEW p:3Unprio s:3normal a:3Wikidata bugs So that the sitelink section can be made floating already. [16:58:11] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: Sitelink UI: wrap everything except sitelinks in separate div - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/73276 (10tobias.gritschacher) 5NEW>3ASSI p:5Unprio>3High [16:59:28] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: Sitelink UI: table-less sitelinklist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/73277 (10tobias.gritschacher) 3NEW p:3Unprio s:3normal a:3Wikidata bugs Use unordered list instead of table. Also remove the language name from the list of sitelink and only keep the siteid. [16:59:41] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: Sitelink UI: table-less sitelinklist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/73277 (10tobias.gritschacher) 5NEW>3ASSI p:5Unprio>3High [17:01:05] (03Abandoned) 10Aude: restructure OutputFormatSnakFormatterFactory [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172267 (owner: 10Aude) [17:11:00] [13ValueView] 15snaterlicious pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/R6RcFQ [17:11:00] 13ValueView/06master 1403a6863 15snaterlicious: Merge pull request #130 from wmde/caseInsensitive... [17:11:53] (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): More consistent variable naming, e.g. $languageCode [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172572 [17:15:55] (03PS5) 10Henning Snater: Re-added highlighting to siteselector and pagesuggester [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169729 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66433) [17:34:42] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 032] Re-added highlighting to siteselector and pagesuggester [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169729 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66433) (owner: 10Henning Snater) [17:34:55] (03PS2) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Narrow EntityParserOutputGeneratorFactory interface [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172275 [17:35:10] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: Implement EntityParserOutputGeneratorFactory (034 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/171528 (owner: 10Aude) [17:40:42] (03CR) 10JanZerebecki: [C: 032] Remove my email address [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172564 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [17:44:40] JeroenDeDauw: /win 19 [17:44:47] oops sorry [17:46:23] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Re-added highlighting to siteselector and pagesuggester [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169729 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66433) (owner: 10Henning Snater) [17:47:46] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Remove my email address [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172564 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [18:06:27] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: Stop using Property::getClaims in PropertyView - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/73278 (10Aude) 3NEW p:3Unprio s:3normal a:3Wikidata bugs we need to stop using getClaims in PropertyView, since that now returns an empty array and will not provide any statements... [18:08:12] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3WikidataRepo: Refactor ClaimsView and related php View code to work more nicely with statements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/73279 (10Aude) 3NEW p:3Unprio s:3normal a:3Wikidata bugs ClaimsView and related php probably makes a lot of bad assumptions, uses a lot of deprec... [18:12:39] aaaaah, must disable spam blacklist :( [18:16:27] * hoo waves [18:20:01] aude: FYI: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Deployments&diff=134106&oldid=134073 [18:20:06] I'll be around then [18:23:06] [13Wikidata.org] 15mariushoch created 06featuredportal (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/r3l2JA [18:23:06] 13Wikidata.org/06featuredportal 1427ad22a 15Marius Hoch: Use golden badge for featured portals... [18:23:51] [13Wikidata.org] 15mariushoch opened pull request #17: Use golden badge for featured portals (06master...06featuredportal) 02http://git.io/PEQtBA [18:28:32] [13WikimediaBadges] 15mariushoch created 06featuredportal (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/ZDT31g [18:28:32] 13WikimediaBadges/06featuredportal 146726716 15Marius Hoch: Use the golden badge for featured portals... [18:29:10] [13WikimediaBadges] 15mariushoch opened pull request #15: Use the golden badge for featured portals (06master...06featuredportal) 02http://git.io/JEduFA [18:29:41] 3Wikimedia / 3Wikidata: Add featured portal badge - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/73193#c2 (10Marius Hoch) Related CSS changes: https://github.com/wmde/Wikidata.org/pull/17 and https://github.com/wmde/WikimediaBadges/pull/15 [18:32:23] (03PS7) 10Hoo man: Add UpdateRepoOnDeleteJob [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/170528 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49100) [18:42:22] [13WikimediaBadges] 15filbertkm closed pull request #15: Use the golden badge for featured portals (06master...06featuredportal) 02http://git.io/JEduFA [18:42:43] [13Wikidata.org] 15filbertkm pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/bbT-Aw [18:42:43] 13Wikidata.org/06master 14f5c7141 15Katie Filbert: Merge pull request #17 from wmde/featuredportal... [19:14:03] (03CR) 10Hoo man: Add UpdateRepoOnDeleteJob (033 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/170528 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49100) (owner: 10Hoo man) [19:14:24] (03PS8) 10Hoo man: Add UpdateRepoOnDeleteJob [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/170528 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49100) [19:15:29] (03CR) 10Hoo man: "Addressed Daniel's comments" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/170528 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49100) (owner: 10Hoo man) [19:24:11] (03CR) 10Hoo man: "@Daniel: I'll try to create such a hook handler class, but probably not today (or even this week... Amsterdam Hackathon)." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/170570 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49100) (owner: 10Hoo man) [19:30:22] hoo: coming to the hackathon? [19:31:03] Yeah :) [19:31:08] yay! :D [19:31:37] aude, Ash_Crow, hoo (and others) looking forward to seeing you all this weeken [19:31:38] d [19:31:44] :) [19:31:52] But now I want to get all the stuffs I'd usually do on the weekend done before Friday, so I'm not having much time this week :P [19:31:58] multichill: Totally :) [19:32:16] do we have any agenda... things we want to accomplish? [19:32:16] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Amsterdam_Hackathon_2014#Attendees is quite a nice list [19:32:31] Hmm, need to add hoo [19:32:42] I'm on the list already [19:32:45] * hoo added himself [19:32:46] hi multichill, same for me :) [19:32:48] aude: RTFM (M=mail in this case ;-) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Amsterdam_Hackathon_2014/Topics [19:32:57] multichill: ok :) [19:33:15] And please please spend some time to propose and discus topics [19:33:22] ok [19:34:15] i'll need to ask Lydia_WMDE and daniel if they have anything specific in mind [19:34:24] otherwise, no problem to come up with ideas [19:37:51] 1) File a bug [19:37:53] 2) Fix the bug [19:37:55] 3) ????? [19:37:58] 4) Profit! [19:38:00] heh :D [19:38:21] You forgot the endless discussion step, duh :D [19:39:58] hoo: aude: How many deployments can we get away with at the weekend... [19:40:04] Just called the restaurant for Friday. We're going to eat Ethiopian :-) [19:40:06] There's gonna be loads of "can you just..." [19:40:25] Smile and wave... [19:40:38] oh, and don't break the site [19:40:43] Nobody will complain :D [19:41:04] Reedy: How many times can we break a site in a weekend and get away with it? That's more hackathon style :P [19:41:20] Ethiopian is good [19:41:39] multichill: Any ideas about parking? :) [19:41:47] Do we have an opsen on call? :P [19:41:56] Reedy: the question is not how many you can get away with - but how many you can do before they start coming for you with pitchforks ;) [19:42:15] I guess I'd notice an exodus of people going to buy pitchforks first [19:42:22] Reedy: You know you're asking someone who his basic mode of transportation is bike or public transport? ;-) [19:42:36] I'll walk by the DC tomorrow morning, let's see if I can get you a free pass [19:42:44] <3 [19:43:05] the District of Columbia [19:43:20] harej: behave [19:43:34] rEEdY [19:49:30] (03CR) 10Hoo man: Don't load the full entity into Lua to get labels/ sitelinks (037 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/171992 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/71743) (owner: 10Hoo man) [19:49:44] (03PS2) 10Hoo man: Don't load the full entity into Lua to get labels/ sitelinks [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/171992 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/71743) [19:51:27] (03CR) 10Hoo man: "Addressed Thiemo's documentation concerns." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/171992 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/71743) (owner: 10Hoo man) [19:54:07] Lydia_WMDE: Guess who just registered for the hackathon [19:54:22] multichill: who who who? [19:54:31] It's not Magnus [19:54:39] gerard? [19:54:44] Jheald [19:54:48] :) [19:54:51] good [19:55:02] * YuviPanda feels slightly sad about not making it, but oh well :) [19:55:19] YuviPanda: Well... see you in SF in January, I guess? [19:55:26] hoo: indeed :) [19:58:26] (03CR) 10Aude: Implement EntityParserOutputGeneratorFactory (034 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/171528 (owner: 10Aude) [19:58:34] (03PS12) 10Aude: Implement EntityParserOutputGeneratorFactory [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/171528 [20:07:17] harej: You as a good American probably decipher https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:US_Navy_120125-N-GU530-067_James_Sketchley_and_Cmdr._Jeffrey_Farah_sign_documents_recognizing_the_adoption_of_the_Henry_M._Jackson_by_the_Everett_a.jpg [20:07:24] virginia hatag? [20:07:26] Huh? [20:09:01] virginia is a state and sometimes a woman's name. other than that "virginia hatag" is completely incoherent and i would suggest no actual reason was given. [20:09:01] seems invalid to me [20:13:08] Reedy: Does mediawiki have an option to see the template parse tree? [20:13:29] * multichill is wondering how to approach the question at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Category:Pages_using_duplicate_arguments_in_template_calls [20:15:57] multichill: I guess you mean externally? [20:16:07] ie not via php code somewhere inside mw? [20:16:12] Somewhere [20:16:20] Fixing this is now quite tedious [20:17:17] The api parse action has a generatexml [20:17:24] "Generate XML parse tree (requires content model "wikitext")." [20:19:21] ok [20:30:36] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JanZerebecki created 06coverage (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/9VZwpA [20:30:36] 13WikibaseDataModel/06coverage 14a46ef81 15Jan Zerebecki: Test AliasGroup with invalid alias. [20:36:18] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JanZerebecki opened pull request #278: Test AliasGroup with invalid alias. (06master...06coverage) 02http://git.io/3_5M8g [20:38:22] is TBloemink an admin? [20:39:22] Mr-Potter: Does it matter? [20:39:44] multichill: Yes [20:39:50] if you don't know don't comment then! [20:41:06] If you care you could just look at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/TBloemink Mr-Potter [20:41:12] thanks! [20:41:48] Mr-Potter: He is not [20:42:10] He was [20:42:16] JohnLewis: Thanks! [20:42:32] multichill: he was :p [20:42:50] But he fucked up and got stripped of any extra rights on several projects [20:43:25] with no chance of regaining them for a year too. [20:44:08] wmde/WikibaseDataModel/coverage/a46ef81 : Jan Zerebecki The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/builds/40704004 [20:44:30] do you have more questions Mr-Potter ? [20:45:52] Stryn: No but thanks [21:16:09] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JanZerebecki 04force-pushed 06languageFallBack from 141c98b17 to 146bc3f07: 02http://git.io/Fm47wA [21:16:09] 13WikibaseDataModel/06languageFallBack 146aad406 15Jan Zerebecki: Add TermFallBack. [21:16:09] 13WikibaseDataModel/06languageFallBack 146bc3f07 15Jan Zerebecki: Add AliasGroupFallback. [23:15:12] (03PS3) 10Hoo man: Don't load the full entity into Lua to get labels/ sitelinks [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/171992 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/71743)