[00:09:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Get snaks in ReferenceSerializer from cloned $reference [extensions/Wikibase] (wmf/1.25wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/165397 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/71519) (owner: 10Aude)
[00:13:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Aude: Update Wikidata with patch to help address bug 71519 [extensions/Wikidata] (wmf/1.25wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/165406 
[00:26:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikidata] (wmf/1.25wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/165406 (owner: 10Aude)
[00:27:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Update Wikidata with patch to help address bug 71519 [extensions/Wikidata] (wmf/1.25wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/165406 (owner: 10Aude)
[00:32:39] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/wmf/1.25wmf1/0735940 : aude The build has errored. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/37346379
[00:34:07] <aude>	 travis is broken, not the build
[00:36:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update Wikidata with patch to help address bug 71519 [extensions/Wikidata] (wmf/1.25wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/165406 (owner: 10Aude)
[06:50:00] <Nemo_bis>	 hi ningu 
[06:50:04] <ningu>	 :)
[06:50:59] <ningu>	 I actually have a technical sparql question
[06:51:14] <ningu>	 but there doesn't seem to be a channel for that
[06:52:11] <ningu>	 I noticed that if I query a bunch of triples from the sparql endpoint I've set up -- where a bunch means hundreds of thousands -- I only get a subset unless I also ORDER BY something. that seems weird to me.
[06:55:48] <ningu>	 maybe it's a feature of the endpoint I'm using. I don't know.
[07:59:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: "abandon?" [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162861 (owner: 10Aude)
[08:05:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Workaround for invalid ParserAfterParse hook call [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/165440 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/71772) 
[08:43:23] <aude>	 Tobi_WMDE_SWE: want a new build?
[08:43:51] <Tobi_WMDE_SWE>	 aude: sure
[08:43:55] <Tobi_WMDE_SWE>	 if possible
[08:44:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: "this has been helpful and think would also be good for master" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/165140 (owner: 10Aude)
[08:44:39] <aude>	 i want to automate it again, but probably not until i come back next week
[08:44:52] <aude>	 https://github.com/wmde/WikidataBuildResources/pull/9 also needs review
[08:46:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Abandoned) 10Aude: New Wikidata Build - 25/09/2014 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162861 (owner: 10Aude)
[08:46:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Aude: New Wikidata Build - 08/10/2014 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/165451 
[08:47:11] <aude>	 i don't even  have to copy files around anymore
[08:47:26] <Tobi_WMDE_SWE>	 aude: \o/
[08:47:28] <aude>	 just checkout Wikidata.git, grunt uninstall (clean) and grunt install 
[08:47:39] <aude>	 should be super easy to automate
[08:47:58] <Tobi_WMDE_SWE>	 aude: so we want to automate this on the wikidatabuilder instance I guess
[08:48:03] <aude>	 only need build resources when it has something new
[08:48:18] <aude>	 probably new instance there
[08:48:24] <aude>	 or old one is fine
[08:48:32] <Tobi_WMDE_SWE>	 aude: what's wrong with the old one?
[08:48:55] <aude>	 https://github.com/wmde/WikidataBuilder/issues/29
[08:49:20] <aude>	 and other issues
[08:49:54] <aude>	 but in case we want to go back to that approach then maybe leaving the instance untouched is ok
[08:49:59] <aude>	 and make new instance
[08:53:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Abandoned) 10Aude: Add exception handling to SetClaim with debug logging [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/164060 (owner: 10Aude)
[08:53:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] log SerializationException in EntityContentDataCodec [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/165140 (owner: 10Aude)
[08:53:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Abandoned) 10Aude: Workaround for hhvm memcached issue in CachingEntityRevisionLookup [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163838 (owner: 10Aude)
[08:53:26] <aude>	 thanks
[08:55:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Abandoned) 10Aude: Handle other projects sidebar more nicely if not in parser cache [WIP] [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158879 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/70482) (owner: 10Aude)
[08:59:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/165451 (owner: 10Aude)
[09:00:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] New Wikidata Build - 08/10/2014 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/165451 (owner: 10Aude)
[09:03:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: log SerializationException in EntityContentDataCodec [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/165140 (owner: 10Aude)
[09:08:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: New Wikidata Build - 08/10/2014 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/165451 (owner: 10Aude)
[09:27:30] <aude>	 omg, panic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MathShowImage
[09:27:54] <Tobi_WMDE_SWE>	 aude: ?
[09:28:03] <aude>	 click the link ;)
[09:28:20] <aude>	 if you specify a hash, then it is broken
[09:28:21] <Tobi_WMDE_SWE>	 did
[09:28:27] <Tobi_WMDE_SWE>	 what is it?
[09:28:42] <aude>	 shows math stuff
[09:28:46] <Tobi_WMDE_SWE>	 ah
[09:28:54] <Tobi_WMDE_SWE>	 doesn't currently it seems
[09:29:01] <aude>	 no hash
[09:39:24] <Nemo_bis>	 Oh, I had no idea someone had made this https://git.wikimedia.org/blob/mediawiki%2Fextensions%2FWikibase/HEAD/repo%2Fmaintenance%2FimportProperties.php
[09:39:58] <aude>	 Nemo_bis: it might be broken
[09:40:17] <Nemo_bis>	 Likely :)
[09:40:18] <aude>	 probably no one has used it in a while
[09:40:37] <Nemo_bis>	 Yes, the use case is rather rare
[09:41:22] <Nemo_bis>	 There is Miga to import (in CSV) and display Wikidata stuff http://migadv.com/usage/creating.php
[09:41:46] <Nemo_bis>	 But I need something to export CSV into Wikidata; hopefully not too hard to write in pywikibot
[09:47:27] <ningu>	 just curious, does anyone here use rdf triple stores? I'm wondering what would be a good choice that balances simplicity, efficiency, and open source
[10:16:08] <Nemo_bis>	 The English of https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Glossary is atrocioous
[10:17:42] <Nemo_bis>	 "Provenance This is the chronology of ownership or contributors" wtdf
[10:44:56] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15tobijat pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/dAEIXw
[10:44:56] <gh-wmde>	 13WikidataBrowserTests/06master 14ffb676d 15Tobias Gritschacher: Add missing @firefox tag
[11:48:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Ebrahim: Override parent DifferenceEngine#getDiffLang for addHeader use [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/165465 
[11:48:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Override parent DifferenceEngine#getDiffLang for addHeader use [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/165465 (owner: 10Ebrahim)
[11:49:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Ebrahim: Override parent DifferenceEngine#getDiffLang for addHeader use [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/165465 
[11:55:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Ebrahim: "This is to fix this issue http://www.wikidata.org/w/?diff=78494708&uselang=fa diff-contentalign-left http://i.imgur.com/5xmBUCD.png" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/165465 (owner: 10Ebrahim)
[12:12:50] <ebraminio1>	 aude: Hi. Any thought about ^?
[12:18:42] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 Lydia_WMDE: aude what is the status of https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70332 - the featured list badge?
[12:19:01] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Tobi_WMDE_SW: not done
[12:19:16] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 Lydia_WMDE: but still planned this week?
[12:19:28] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 blockers?
[12:19:36] <Lydia_WMDE>	 yes
[12:19:41] <Lydia_WMDE>	 blockers: icon
[12:19:46] <Lydia_WMDE>	 and aude's time
[12:20:06] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 so, who is suposed to make the icon?
[12:20:30] <Lydia_WMDE>	 we can just use the same as for featured article for now
[12:20:44] <Lydia_WMDE>	 and then if the community wants another one they can make one
[12:20:49] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 ok, so only blocked on aude's time. fair enough.
[12:20:54] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 :)
[12:20:56] <Lydia_WMDE>	 yeah
[12:26:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: "generally seems ok as an immediate solution, though see some nitpicks in the comments." (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/165440 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/71772) (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[12:27:46] <aude>	 Tobi_WMDE_SW: next week then
[12:27:50] <aude>	 should be simple
[12:27:56] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 aude: ok. :)
[12:28:59] <aude>	 it's the sort of thing we want to schedule a deploy time... probably our next regular deploy
[12:29:19] <aude>	 which would be week after next for wikidata/wikipedia
[12:29:31] <aude>	 so the community knows when to expect
[12:30:02] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 ok. great. :)
[12:36:45] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15filbertkm comment on pull request #216 1463d006f: this is a similar issue as bug 71519.  based on how we fixed that, I think a clone is not needed 02http://git.io/37cEPw
[12:38:29] <aude>	 Tobi_WMDE_SW: i'd like https://github.com/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/pull/216 reviewed
[12:39:07] <aude>	 try to get https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q183&oldid=143201634 working again
[12:49:37] <vova>	 http://releases.wikimedia.org/other/incr/wikidatawiki/
[12:50:53] <vova>	 Good afternoon, do not tell me when the server will work daily dump http://releases.wikimedia.org/other/incr/wikidatawiki/
[12:52:40] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 aude: did you verify this change fixes the problem? it does indeed not look like a functional change to me..
[12:53:09] <aude>	 Tobi_WMDE_SW: it's a bit difficult to verify this one
[12:53:38] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 aude: hm.. how did you identify this spot?
[12:54:04] <aude>	 getAllSnaks is called in referenced entities finder
[12:54:21] <aude>	 which was one of the triggers for Q183 to fail
[12:55:44] <aude>	 i can take another look to see if i can verify
[12:56:20] <aude>	 but it's the line https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71519#c34 where things fail
[12:57:29] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 aude: that looks like $this->getQualifiers() does not return what it should
[12:58:01] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 but if that's the case, the patch won't change anything
[12:58:27] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 otherwise PHP would confuse me
[12:58:40] <aude>	 i'll verify more
[12:58:45] <aude>	 https://gist.github.com/filbertkm/8448ac0837c24b292fe8 segfaults
[12:59:32] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 aude: so if you could verify that it fails with the old code and works with the same data but with only this line changed, that would be great
[13:00:03] <Tobi_WMDE_SW>	 and if that's the case, then I am really confused or it is a PHP bug
[13:02:18] <aude>	 it is a php bug
[13:02:34] <aude>	 or things runnning out of memory, getting corrupted and triggering weirdness
[13:02:38] <aude>	 like Q72
[13:03:37] <aude>	 DanielK_WMDE__: piiiiing!
[13:03:53] <aude>	 if you want to join us again
[13:04:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Workaround for invalid ParserAfterParse hook call (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/165440 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/71772) (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[13:05:06] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 aude: whut?
[13:05:27] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 in a bit
[13:19:16] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15tobijat pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/XpOGRg
[13:19:16] <gh-wmde>	 13WikidataBrowserTests/06master 14cea04db 15Tobias Gritschacher: Remove unused method
[13:23:09] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15tobijat pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/xI9_rg
[13:23:09] <gh-wmde>	 13WikidataBrowserTests/06master 14029fbbb 15Tobias Gritschacher: Remove unused settings from config files
[13:54:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: Workaround for invalid ParserAfterParse hook call (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/165440 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/71772) (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[13:55:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: Workaround for invalid ParserAfterParse hook call (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/165440 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/71772) (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[13:58:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Workaround for invalid ParserAfterParse hook call (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/165440 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/71772) (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[14:01:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: Workaround for invalid ParserAfterParse hook call (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/165440 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/71772) (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[14:07:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Workaround for invalid ParserAfterParse hook call (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/165440 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/71772) (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[14:10:04] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15tobijat pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/jDYPwA
[14:10:04] <gh-wmde>	 13WikidataBrowserTests/06master 14b50f58b 15Tobias Gritschacher: Update Gemfile.lock
[14:13:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: Workaround for invalid ParserAfterParse hook call (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/165440 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/71772) (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[14:59:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Aude: Add dir="auto" for labelview and alias list items [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/165487 
[15:00:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: "ok for now" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/165440 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/71772) (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[15:00:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Aude: Workaround for invalid ParserAfterParse hook call [extensions/Wikibase] (wmf/1.25wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/165488 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/71772) 
[15:16:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 032] ")-;" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/165205 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/71519) (owner: 10Aude)
[15:27:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Get snaks in ReferenceSerializer from cloned $reference [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/165205 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/71519) (owner: 10Aude)
[15:42:44] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Nemo bis: "> This is to fix this issue http://www.wikidata.org/w/?diff=78494708&uselang=fa diff-contentalign-left http://i.imgur.com/5xmBUCD.png" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/165465 (owner: 10Ebrahim)
[16:15:00] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15tobijat pushed 2 new commits to 06api: 02http://git.io/KbJE5Q
[16:15:00] <gh-wmde>	 13WikidataBrowserTests/06api 14eae1e1f 15Tobias Gritschacher: Merge branch 'master' into api...
[16:15:00] <gh-wmde>	 13WikidataBrowserTests/06api 14ebdab41 15Tobias Gritschacher: Use new wikidata_api gem to create entities and remove sitelinks
[17:56:54] <hoo>	 Do we have github Wikidata-lib reporting here?
[19:16:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Ebrahim: Make Wikibase diff table to match user language direction [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/165465 
[19:22:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Ebrahim: Make Wikibase diff table to match user language direction [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/165465 
[20:54:02] <Romaine>	 is there a way to get Wikidata sections again all editable without needing to clieck to edit a section?
[20:54:22] <Jhs>	 +1
[20:56:05] <Romaine>	 it is not handy for power users
[20:56:22] * hoo is not sure what you guys
[20:56:24] <hoo>	 mean
[20:56:40] <hoo>	 You want everything in edit mode? The whole page?
[20:57:01] <Romaine>	 yes
[20:57:11] <Romaine>	 as it was before the change of recently
[20:58:15] <hoo>	 huh? Was that a gadget or something?
[20:58:18] <Romaine>	 no
[20:59:02] <Romaine>	 In other languages section has been changed
[20:59:14] <Vogone>	 hoo: it was indeed possible before
[20:59:32] <Romaine>	 also I need to edit a section before I can change/edit a section
[21:00:24] <Romaine>	 it is so clumpsy for me
[21:00:46] <Romaine>	 I do not work section wise
[21:01:14] <hoo>	 I see
[21:02:20] <Romaine>	 much more actions I must do now to change/add something
[21:02:38] <sjoerddebruin>	 The old way was better.
[21:03:14] <Romaine>	 for example, if I want to add 4 pages to an item + title, then I copy the title of page one, add it to the In other languages section and to the section of connected pages
[21:03:22] <Romaine>	 then page 2 the same
[21:03:25] <Romaine>	 etc
[21:03:52] <Romaine>	 = paste + save + paste + save
[21:03:55] <Romaine>	 now:
[21:04:30] <Romaine>	 edit + paste + save + edit + paste + save
[21:05:04] <hoo>	 Oh, I see, yes
[21:05:16] * hoo is not a designer
[21:05:29] <hoo>	 But having a solution for this would be nice
[21:05:34] <Romaine>	 yes
[21:05:51] <Romaine>	 if developers make it harder to do the work, less work will be done by the users
[21:05:58] <hoo>	 Yes, of course
[21:05:58] <Romaine>	 this is less efficient
[21:06:18] <sjoerddebruin>	 My motivation to do something on Wikidata is pretty low in the last days because of these changes.
[21:06:33] <Romaine>	 if I much work this way, I will not
[21:06:37] <sjoerddebruin>	 Also because I don't like this kind of st00f because of my autism.
[21:08:05] <Vogone>	 sorry, but what does autism have to do with the Wikidata UI?
[21:08:22] <hoo>	 sjoerddebruin: Romaine: Would be nice if anyone could file a bug
[21:08:38] <hoo>	 I'm not sure what the performance implications and the work needed are
[21:08:57] <sjoerddebruin>	 Vogone: people with autism don't like that things change the way they work.
[21:09:01] <hoo>	 We're doing a lot of changes to the UI already (that's in progress)
[21:09:56] <Vogone>	 sjoerddebruin: that's a bit of overgeneralisation :p
[21:10:04] <sjoerddebruin>	 :O
[21:22:50] <hoo>	 cloning Wikibase with 40 KiB/s
[21:22:53] <hoo>	 that's awful
[21:22:58] <hoo>	 (at my netbook which is using wlan)
[21:23:15] <hoo>	 Oh, it's the wlan :S
[21:24:36] <hoo>	 ah, wrong access point :P That would have taken a while
[21:24:51] * Romaine wrote a mail about it
[21:25:00] <Romaine>	 (about wuick editing restoring)
[21:25:08] <hoo>	 Romaine: To which list?
[21:25:12] <hoo>	 Did you also create a bug?
[21:25:12] <Romaine>	 wikidat
[21:25:19] <Romaine>	 I was planning to create one now
[21:25:39] <hoo>	 Nice :)
[21:27:36] <Romaine>	 under which section I should place it?
[21:27:42] * Romaine tries to find Wikidata
[21:28:00] <hoo>	 Romaine: MediaWiki extensions
[21:28:01] <sjoerddebruin>	 WikibaseClient?
[21:28:02] <sjoerddebruin>	 or something like that
[21:28:04] <hoo>	 -> WikidataRepo
[21:28:20] <Romaine>	 which Product?
[21:28:21] <sjoerddebruin>	 Oh, yes.
[21:28:21] <Vogone>	 sjoerddebruin: Client are the client wikis :p
[21:28:36] <sjoerddebruin>	 Yeah, confusing names every time.
[21:28:45] <hoo>	 It is confusing
[21:29:11] <Vogone>	 Romaine: as hoo said, WikidataRepo is the right one
[21:30:00] * Romaine does not see a Product named WikidataRepo
[21:30:23] <hoo>	 Romaine: Product is MediaWiki extensions
[21:30:47] <Romaine>	 ah there
[21:31:39] <Romaine>	 I hope this menu is more based on users logic in Pabricator
[21:32:16] <sjoerddebruin>	 +1
[21:32:44] <Vogone>	 well, now we have Andre to sort the bugs into the right products :)
[21:34:20] <andre__>	 only sometimes...
[21:35:05] <andre__>	 Phabricator simply won't have any classifications like "products" vs "components" vs "keywords". All will be "projects".
[21:35:47] <hoo>	 Which is much less confusing, I guess
[21:43:37] <Romaine>	 sjoerddebruin / hoo: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71845
[21:45:57] <sjoerddebruin>	 Romaine: I don't have you first message on the mailing list btw.
[21:46:05] <sjoerddebruin>	 I've got the reply.
[21:46:18] <Romaine>	 mmm
[21:47:09] <Romaine>	 I sometimes have that the reply is received earlier than the original message
[21:47:19] <sjoerddebruin>	 First time for me.
[21:47:29] <Romaine>	 I have had it so many times
[21:47:35] <Romaine>	 especially with Yahoo
[21:47:37] <Romaine>	 pfffffff
[21:48:01] <sjoerddebruin>	 Yahoo and Wikimedia aren't friends...
[21:48:58] <Romaine>	 me and Yahoo aren't friends
[21:57:08] <Romaine>	 that is why I said goodbye to Yahoo
[23:43:33] <ningu>	 anyone know SPARQL well here? can I ask a question about it?
[23:45:50] <ningu>	 I am finding that filter(contains(...)) is behaving oddly, and I don't know if the issue is with the sparql endpoint or with my query.
[23:47:43] <kaldari|2>	 Does anyone know where to file bugs related to the Wikidata UI? In Bugzilla there are the following components: WikibaseDatabase, WikibaseQuery, WikibaseQueryEngine, WikidataClient, and WikidataRepo. I don't think any of those are the correct component though.
[23:49:27] <kaldari|2>	 Maybe its WikibaseRepo?
[23:50:08] <kaldari|2>	 hmm, that doesn't exist, but maybe is the same as WikidataRepo
[23:52:56] <James_F>	 kaldari|2: WikidataClient I think.
[23:53:39] <Reedy>	 They'll get triaged and moved if they're roughly in the right place ;)
[23:53:48] <kaldari|2>	 James_F: I think WikidataClient is what runs on en.wiki for supplying interlanguage links, etc.
[23:54:13] <James_F>	 kaldari|2: I thought Wikidata.org was a Wikibase client of itself?
[23:54:16] * James_F has no idea.
[23:54:28] <James_F>	 You are in a labyrinth of badly-named code, all alike.
[23:54:41] <kaldari|2>	 Looks like it's actually the Wikibase Repository extension, which I'm assuming is represented by the WikidataRepo component :P
[23:56:28] <Reedy>	 nar enough :D