[00:58:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Remove RedirectCreationInteractor/ItemMergeInteractor::getErrorCodeInfo [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162800 
[01:02:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Hoo man: Add back RepoApi.{get,post} for compatibility [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162562 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[01:07:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 031] "Removed useless wrapper around _post (just named it post)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162562 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[01:59:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 04-1] Collect usage tracking info in ParserOutput. (0317 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/161487 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64588) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[02:00:25] <Eurodyne>	 Do you guys know of any auto editing wikidata editors like the game?
[02:00:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "A brief high level description in the commit message is helpful for review" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162555 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[02:14:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "An I correct in understanding that this is meant to hide how changes to these various data objects are persisted?" (034 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162555 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[02:15:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Add an initServices method to SpecialWikibaseRepoPage [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159516 (owner: 10Bene)
[02:15:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "Bene: can you answer my question?" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159516 (owner: 10Bene)
[02:49:35] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw closed pull request #180: Fix Item::patchSiteLinks (06master...06badgepatch) 02http://git.io/zqZ8kA
[02:51:40] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw comment on pull request #187 14beac925: If you copy something bad, the at least you should clean up the copy. Generally better to first clean up the original and then copy it. 02http://git.io/JReSSA
[03:29:04] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw created 06statement_ (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/NmmJfA
[03:29:04] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06statement_ 145546cea 15jeroendedauw: Enhance docs of Statement constructor and add alternate constructors
[03:29:14] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw opened pull request #205: Enhance docs of Statement constructor and add alternate constructors (06master...06statement_) 02http://git.io/mzOqew
[03:40:49] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseDataModel/statement_/5546cea : jeroendedauw The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/builds/36219713
[03:47:55] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw created 06refrnce (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/pwEbqg
[03:47:55] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06refrnce 146f3aacc 15jeroendedauw: Simplify construction of Reference
[03:48:05] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw opened pull request #206: Simplify construction of Reference (06master...06refrnce) 02http://git.io/VCCetA
[03:59:43] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseDataModel/refrnce/6f3aacc : jeroendedauw The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/builds/36220598
[04:04:42] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw created 06addNewReference (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/4LrWUQ
[04:04:42] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06addNewReference 14569f21f 15jeroendedauw: Add ReferenceList::addNewReference
[04:16:21] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseDataModel/addNewReference/569f21f : jeroendedauw The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/builds/36221103
[04:19:32] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw created 06statementpatch (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/rUHpeg
[04:19:32] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06statementpatch 14bbb6e01 15jeroendedauw: Hold statements into account when patching properties
[04:24:59] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw created 06doc (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/_Ofavg
[04:24:59] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06doc 148ad496b 15jeroendedauw: Minor doc tweaks
[04:30:59] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseDataModel/statementpatch/bbb6e01 : jeroendedauw The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/builds/36221618
[04:36:21] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseDataModel/doc/8ad496b : jeroendedauw The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/builds/36221924
[04:39:26] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw created 06statementdiff (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/RT5KIA
[04:39:26] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06statementdiff 14ac29824 15jeroendedauw: Include statements in Property diffing...
[04:39:41] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw opened pull request #211: Include statements in Property diffing (06master...06statementdiff) 02http://git.io/OsMWcA
[04:51:18] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseDataModel/statementdiff/ac29824 : jeroendedauw The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/builds/36222592
[04:55:44] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15Benestar closed pull request #210: Minor doc tweaks (06master...06doc) 02http://git.io/z9PqQA
[04:56:02] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15Benestar 04deleted 06doc at 148ad496b: 02http://git.io/jbBfPg
[07:20:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: [C: 04-1] "post is going to be private. This is just for the next deployment." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162562 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[07:43:43] <github-wmde>	 [13WikibaseQueryEngine] 15tobijat closed pull request #120: Make TravisCI work with Postgres (06master...06pg) 02http://git.io/fwNE5w
[07:43:53] <github-wmde>	 [13WikibaseQueryEngine] 15tobijat pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/YIcpkw
[07:43:53] <github-wmde>	 13WikibaseQueryEngine/06master 14b692d1f 15Tobi Gritschacher: Merge pull request #120 from wmde/pg...
[08:49:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS7) 10Adrian Lang: Implemented badge selector widget [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/160456 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/67669) (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[08:59:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Implemented badge selector widget [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/160456 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/67669) (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[08:59:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: "Changes:" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/160456 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/67669) (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[09:10:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 04-1] "Works well for almost all cases now, though there's still an issue with decades between the year -9 and 9." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162242 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64742) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[09:27:12] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS8) 10Adrian Lang: Implemented badge selector widget [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/160456 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/67669) (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[09:27:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: "Changes:" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/160456 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/67669) (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[09:32:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: Introduce usage tracking service. (0325 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/161477 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64586) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[09:33:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS8) 10Daniel Kinzler: Introduce usage tracking service. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/161477 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64586) 
[09:33:24] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS9) 10Daniel Kinzler: Introduce usage tracking service. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/161477 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64586) 
[09:33:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS9) 10Daniel Kinzler: Collect usage tracking info in ParserOutput. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/161487 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64588) 
[09:40:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Implemented badge selector widget [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/160456 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/67669) (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[10:08:24] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Aude: New Wikidata Build - 24/09/2014 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162852 
[10:08:33] <aude>	 bah
[10:08:44] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] New Wikidata Build - 24/09/2014 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162852 (owner: 10Aude)
[10:09:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Abandoned) 10Aude: New Wikidata Build - 24/09/2014 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162852 (owner: 10Aude)
[10:10:41] <GerardM->	 hoi, I am surely not the first one to notice.. Wikidata is not stable ... even when from within Wikidata itself there are internal server errors
[10:11:05] <aude>	 GerardM-: are you using the hhvm beta feature?
[10:11:08] <GerardM->	 Widar also has many hickups
[10:11:41] <GerardM->	 Null responses in particular
[10:14:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162852 (owner: 10Aude)
[10:14:28] <aharoni>	 Hallo.
[10:14:49] <aharoni>	 There are some Wikidata-related extensions, which are deployed in Wikimedia wikis, but are not translatable in translatewiki.
[10:14:54] <aharoni>	 Such as DataTypes.
[10:15:42] <aharoni>	 If I understand correctly, they have messages that should be translated, and currently cannot be translated in the usual way.
[10:15:53] <aharoni>	 Probably because they are in GitHub and not Gerrit.
[10:16:21] <aharoni>	 Is there any way to sync them with Gerrit? It would be much easier for translatewiki maintainers.
[10:16:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "@Tobi: returning the raw timestamp is the fallback behavior for "nonsense precisions", like "the year 2000, precision 1 million years". D" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162242 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64742) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[10:17:21] <DanielK_WMDE>	 aharoni: talk to JeroenDeDauw...
[10:24:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: "Just want to point out the fact you mentioned in the daily: There is a difference between a value (date and precision combination) being n" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162242 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64742) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[10:33:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] "Created a separate bug for the discussed problem:" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162242 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64742) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[10:35:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS9) 10Adrian Lang: Implemented badge selector widget [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/160456 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/67669) (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[10:35:51] <aharoni>	 JeroenDeDauw: any idea?..
[10:35:53] <aharoni>	 ^
[10:37:55] <lazowik>	 hey
[10:37:57] <jzerebecki>	 aharoni, JeroenDeDauw: from a operations/deployment perspective (a full commit, build and deploy should be possible even if external services like github and packagist are down) they also should be on gerrit.w.o
[10:43:51] <Adrian_WMDE>	 does it make any sense to talk about gerrit considering that everybody and their cats are going to dump it soon anyway?
[10:44:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix counting of centuries and millennia. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162242 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64742) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[11:03:27] <aharoni>	 Adrian_WMDE: Yes, because the "soon" is very undefined.
[11:04:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS10) 10Adrian Lang: Implemented badge selector widget [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/160456 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/67669) (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[11:04:33] <aharoni>	 phabricator as a source code management tool is somewhere very far on the horizon, and until further notice, code review and automated localization imports work in Gerrit.
[11:05:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS11) 10Adrian Lang: Implemented badge selector widget [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/160456 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/67669) (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[11:09:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Lucie Kaffee: Update MergeItem's method getParamDescription [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162859 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69739) 
[11:13:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Lucie Kaffee: [WIP] Update MergeItem's method getParamDescription [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162859 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69739) 
[11:14:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Lucie Kaffee: [WIP] Update MergeItem's method getParamDescription [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162859 
[11:15:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Lucie Kaffee: [WIP] Update MergeItem's method getParamDescription [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162859 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69739) 
[11:30:51] <Adrian_WMDE>	 grrrit-wm: ping?
[11:31:21] <Adrian_WMDE>	 didn't inform me about jenkins' https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/160456/
[11:31:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS17) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Add ApiConventionsTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/151659 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/67407) (owner: 10Lucie Kaffee)
[11:32:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: [C: 032] Implemented badge selector widget [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/160456 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/67669) (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[11:34:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [WIP] Update MergeItem's method getParamDescription [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162859 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69739) (owner: 10Lucie Kaffee)
[11:37:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] New deployment build - wmf/1.25wmf1 [extensions/Wikidata] (wmf/1.25wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162581 (owner: 10Aude)
[11:45:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Aude: New Wikidata Build - 25/09/2014 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162861 
[11:46:23] <aude>	 Adrian_WMDE: we cherry pick https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/162562/ but not merge this to master?
[11:46:48] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Add ApiConventionsTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/151659 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/67407) (owner: 10Lucie Kaffee)
[11:46:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [WIP] Update MergeItem's method getParamDescription [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162859 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69739) (owner: 10Lucie Kaffee)
[11:46:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Implemented badge selector widget [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/160456 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/67669) (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[11:47:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: New deployment build - wmf/1.25wmf1 [extensions/Wikidata] (wmf/1.25wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162581 (owner: 10Aude)
[11:56:13] <aude>	 Tobi_WMDE_SWE: did we do selenium tests yet?
[11:56:52] <Adrian_WMDE>	 aude: I don't care, can be merged to master as well
[11:57:50] <aude>	 Adrian_WMDE: it has a -1
[11:58:04] <aude>	 if you or hoo gives a +1 then i would be ok to +2
[11:58:13] <Adrian_WMDE>	 It has a -1 from me
[11:58:17] <aude>	 looks simple and we can follow up with however needed
[11:58:42] * aude prefers +1 from you *and* hoo :)
[11:59:42] <Adrian_WMDE>	 I didn't like hoo's modification
[11:59:45] <aude>	 ok
[12:00:10] <Adrian_WMDE>	 But if you need to get this resolved now, just merge it, it's minor
[12:00:26] <aude>	 would be ok if we have it on monday
[12:00:32] <aude>	 if you are back then
[12:00:41] * aude doesn't want to forget though
[12:00:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162861 (owner: 10Aude)
[12:01:00] <Adrian_WMDE>	 I'll probably be back on tuesday
[12:01:04] <aude>	 hmmm
[12:01:09] <Adrian_WMDE>	 just merge it, really :)
[12:01:14] <aude>	 ok :D
[12:01:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] "per chat with Adrian on irc and so we don't forget to have this in the branch" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162562 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[12:10:16] <Tobi_WMDE_SWE>	 JeroenDeDauw: aude: Adrian_WMDE: Lydia_WMDE panic! https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71291
[12:10:23] <Tobi_WMDE_SWE>	 :)
[12:10:48] <Lydia_WMDE>	 waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[12:10:49] <Lydia_WMDE>	 :P
[12:10:56] * Lydia_WMDE is on bug-closing spree
[12:11:09] * aude panics!
[12:11:34] <aude>	 i think this was fixed
[12:11:40] <aude>	 is this on new items?
[12:11:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add back RepoApi.{get,post} for compatibility [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162562 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[12:12:26] <Tobi_WMDE_SWE>	 audee: no, it is on old items
[12:12:35] <Tobi_WMDE_SWE>	 aude
[12:12:47] <Tobi_WMDE_SWE>	 but they are inaccessible
[12:14:24] <aude>	 when were the items made?
[12:14:46] <Tobi_WMDE_SWE>	 aude: I don't know exactly, but weeks or even months ago
[12:14:53] <aude>	 https://github.com/wmde/WikibaseInternalSerialization/pull/35 might have fixed it
[12:15:18] <Tobi_WMDE_SWE>	 aude: definitely not years, as Adrian_WMDE also has then
[12:15:21] <Tobi_WMDE_SWE>	 *them
[12:15:38] <aude>	 also i see https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61950
[12:15:43] <aude>	 is this still occurring?
[12:15:53] <aude>	 seems bad
[12:16:52] <Tobi_WMDE_SWE>	 aude: no, I think such claims cannot be created anymore but if they are in the database the y should still be accessible
[12:16:59] <aude>	 Tobi_WMDE_SWE: i think we want to handle this nicer if such items exist
[12:17:30] <aude>	 if it was possible via the api then there might be such items on wikidata :(
[12:17:43] <aude>	 the thing in the pull request, the bug never was deployed
[12:18:06] <Adrian_WMDE>	 My item was created from the browser tests
[12:18:09] <Adrian_WMDE>	 i. e. API
[12:18:16] <aude>	 ooooh
[12:18:23] <Tobi_WMDE_SWE>	 oh
[12:18:26] <Tobi_WMDE_SWE>	 :)
[12:18:26] * aude says a blocker
[12:19:20] <aude>	 weird that it's using the old serializers
[12:19:42] <Tobi_WMDE_SWE>	 Adrian_WMDE: the item or the claim?
[12:19:50] <Tobi_WMDE_SWE>	 the item is not the problem, the claim is
[12:21:02] <aude>	 Lydia_WMDE: can we have a bug for https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Contact_the_development_team#Problems_with_a_deleted_property
[12:21:18] <Lydia_WMDE>	 yeah
[12:22:03] <aude>	 would like a more general solution as we probably have this happening for items
[12:22:20] <aude>	 and things not being always cleaned in secondary tables
[12:22:21] <Adrian_WMDE>	 |  13034 | {"label":{"en":"XznzzEBw"},"description":{"en":"QfjbQsEAWSdEGnUYjDKM"},"aliases":[],"claims":[{"m":["value",2326,"string","<script>$('body').empty();<\/script>"],"q":[],"g":"Q6204$0367a186-4065-f925-186b-1402e0c1a070","rank":1,"refs":[]}],"links":[],"entity":["item",6204]} | utf-8     |
[12:23:30] <Adrian_WMDE>	 Both claim and item were created by the browser tests
[12:23:38] <aude>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70345 must be the api
[12:23:42] <aude>	 he says wbgetentities
[12:25:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Adrian Lang: Introduce entityChangers [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162555 
[12:25:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: Introduce entityChangers (034 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162555 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[12:27:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Aude: Add back RepoApi.{get,post} for compatibility [extensions/Wikibase] (wmf/1.25wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162868 
[12:34:58] <aude>	 who wants to work on the claim guid issue?
[12:35:08] <aude>	 s/who/anyone ?
[12:41:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS6) 10Lucie Kaffee: [WIP] Change on getParamDescription and getFinalParams [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162859 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69739) 
[12:43:59] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15Benestar comment on pull request #206 146f3aacc: What's that? o.O 02http://git.io/M9i9uw
[12:44:38] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15Benestar comment on pull request #206 146f3aacc: We might also want to support some snaks as a list of arguments and get them by `func_get_args()` but that's not really necessary perhaps. 02http://git.io/-whC9w
[12:46:20] <lbenedix>	 Lydia_WMDE: ping
[12:46:29] <Lydia_WMDE>	 lbenedix: hi
[12:48:24] <lbenedix>	 Do you know a tool to add qualified statements quickly?
[12:48:47] <lbenedix>	 I tried to use https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/quick_statements.php? but it doesnt support "monolinugual text"
[12:49:17] <lbenedix>	 I have some historical names of Max Planck Institutes 
[12:49:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [WIP] Change on getParamDescription and getFinalParams [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162859 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69739) (owner: 10Lucie Kaffee)
[12:50:02] <Lydia_WMDE>	 best ask magnus to add support for monolingual text then :)
[12:50:16] <lbenedix>	 As far as I know he is on holidays right now ;)
[12:50:44] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15Benestar comment on pull request #205 145546cea: This method has the same signature as the constructure and is not helpful in my opinion. 02http://git.io/Qxxq_A
[12:50:46] <lbenedix>	 are there gadgets that support editors?
[12:51:09] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15Benestar comment on pull request #205 145546cea: `/* , $args */` -> `/* $args */` 02http://git.io/F9a9hA
[12:51:18] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS7) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [WIP] Change on getParamDescription and getFinalParams [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162859 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69739) (owner: 10Lucie Kaffee)
[12:54:07] <Lydia_WMDE>	 there are a lot of gadgets supporting editors
[12:54:12] <Lydia_WMDE>	 but none i am aware of that do what you want
[12:54:25] <Lydia_WMDE>	 really the best is to talk to magnus
[12:55:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Bene: Add a setServices method to SpecialWikibaseRepoPage [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159516 
[12:56:12] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Aude: Fix class not found error in WikiPageUpdater [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162874 
[12:56:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Bene: "@Jeroen this was itended to be preparation work for better tests but I stuck with something else so this is still on my TODO list. However" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159516 (owner: 10Bene)
[12:57:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: Collect usage tracking info in ParserOutput. (0317 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/161487 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64588) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[12:57:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS10) 10Daniel Kinzler: Collect usage tracking info in ParserOutput. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/161487 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64588) 
[12:57:26] <aude>	 benestar: we could use https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/152755/ now for special pages :)
[12:58:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Aude: Fix class not found error in WikiPageUpdater [extensions/Wikibase] (wmf/1.25wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162876 
[13:01:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS8) 10Lucie Kaffee: [WIP] Change on getParamDescription and getFinalParams [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162859 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69739) 
[13:06:01] <DanielK_WMDE>	 aude: \o/
[13:13:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Collect usage tracking info in ParserOutput. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/161487 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64588) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[13:14:26] <aude>	 hmmm, seems we no longer accept 'Q64' (capital Q) as an item id
[13:14:44] <DanielK_WMDE>	 aude: whut?
[13:14:47] <aude>	 Lydia_WMDE: we might want to discuss that
[13:14:58] <aude>	 at least in data model
[13:15:02] <DanielK_WMDE>	 o_O
[13:17:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [WIP] Change on getParamDescription and getFinalParams [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162859 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69739) (owner: 10Lucie Kaffee)
[13:35:18] <lbenedix>	 can someone tell me how to add a statement with datype "monolinugual text" via the api?
[13:36:43] <DanielK_WMDE>	 lbenedix: check what a statement with that type looks when you fetch it via wbgetentities or wbgetclaims
[13:37:02] <DanielK_WMDE>	 then you know what it should look like when you pass it to wbeditentity or wbsetclaim
[13:39:18] <lbenedix>	 I think I dont understand how wbsetclaim works
[13:40:09] <DanielK_WMDE>	 lbenedix: you probably want wbcreateclaim
[13:40:15] <DanielK_WMDE>	 wbsetclaim is for updating existing claims
[13:40:36] <lbenedix>	 looks better, thx!
[13:41:58] <DanielK_WMDE>	 lbenedix: you may need to call wbsetclaim to add qualifiers and references. not sure if createclaim supports this
[13:42:20] <aude>	 or use wbcreateclaim + wbsetreferences
[13:42:30] <lbenedix>	 I have claims and qualifiers
[13:42:38] <DanielK_WMDE>	 ...or just use wbeditentity for everything :)
[13:42:44] <aude>	 and setqualifier
[13:42:53] <aude>	 or what daniel says
[13:42:59] <DanielK_WMDE>	 wbeditentity shoudl allow you to set everythign at once
[13:44:04] <lbenedix>	 everything goes into the "data" field?
[13:44:15] <DanielK_WMDE>	 yea
[13:45:11] <lbenedix>	 is there some example code to see how the qualifiers fit into this?
[13:46:15] <DanielK_WMDE>	 lbenedix: just look at the json of a statement that has qualifiers
[13:46:41] <sjoerddebrijn>	 DanielK_WMDE: point sjoerddebruin and Savh on the door
[13:46:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Daniel Kinzler: Record usage info from ParserOutput to the database. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162650 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64589) 
[13:46:51] <aude>	 lbenedix: what are you using? pywikibot? php? something else?
[13:46:57] <sjoerddebruin>	 Please kick sjoerddebrijn, LTA.
[13:47:05] <aude>	 pywikibot probably does all this already
[13:47:06] <sjoerddebrijn>	 at reverse
[13:47:17] <sjoerddebruin>	 stop talking shit sjoerddebrijn 
[13:47:18] <aude>	 imho easier
[13:47:24] <sjoerddebrijn>	 sjoerddebruin, jbz
[13:47:30] <aude>	 or if php, you can use our data model libraries
[13:47:58] <aude>	 or see how they do things
[13:50:15] <sjoerddebruin>	 Barras, Lydia_WMDE: please kick sjoerddebrijn.
[13:50:25] <sjoerddebrijn>	 Barras: at reverse
[13:50:31] <sjoerddebrijn>	 kick sjoerddebruin
[13:51:21] <Lydia_WMDE>	 very funny...
[13:51:23] <sjoerddebrijn>	 sjoerddebrein meers not a kick
[13:51:31] <Lydia_WMDE>	 sjoerddebrijn: i recommend going somewhere else 
[13:51:39] <sjoerddebruin>	 Lydia_WMDE: it's a lta.
[13:51:40] <sjoerddebrijn>	 ok
[13:51:55] <sjoerddebrijn>	 sjoerddebruin: /part
[13:52:01] <sjoerddebrijn>	 yas
[13:54:04] <sjoerddebot>	 Hello everyone my babys!!!
[13:55:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Record usage info from ParserOutput to the database. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162650 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64589) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[13:58:04] <sjoerddebruin>	 Oh, he's already gone? :/
[13:58:52] <Lydia_WMDE>	 taking away all the fun... :/
[13:59:57] <Juppel-bot>	 what fun?
[14:00:12] <Juppel-bot>	 nothing is *funny* for me here
[14:00:45] <Juppel-bot>	 eh Lydia_WMDE & sjoerddebruin
[14:20:39] <aude>	 wow, EntityView is so much smaller now :)
[14:21:06] <sjoerddebruin>	 :O
[14:23:26] <hoo>	 1.25wmf1?
[14:23:51] <aude>	 hoo: yep, wmf/1.25wmf1 now
[14:24:33] <hoo>	 aude: I thought they delayed 1.25?
[14:24:38] <aude>	 no
[14:24:46] <aude>	 was decided not
[14:24:58] <hoo>	 oh
[14:25:06] <hoo>	 read something on wikitech-l
[14:25:13] <aude>	 https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments#Thursday.2C.C2.A0September.C2.A025
[14:25:14] <hoo>	 but didn't really follow up
[14:25:28] <aude>	 the cat is out of the bag, as we say
[14:25:30] <aude>	 too late
[14:25:42] <hoo>	 I see :D
[14:25:45] <aude>	 try to coordinate better next time
[14:26:22] <aude>	 and if we backport anything, then jenkins will run tests against corresponding core branch instead of master
[14:39:03] <benestar>	 aude: \o/
[14:39:10] <benestar>	 @special pages
[14:40:29] <aude>	 :)
[14:41:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Daniel Kinzler: Record usage info from ParserOutput to the database. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162650 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64589) 
[14:41:24] <benestar>	 aude: will prepare a patch in the next few weeks perhaps :)
[14:43:57] <aude>	 yay
[14:49:48] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Record usage info from ParserOutput to the database. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162650 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64589) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[14:50:02] <sjoerddebruin>	 n
[14:50:07] <sjoerddebruin>	 a
[14:50:08] <sjoerddebruin>	 h
[14:50:09] <sjoerddebruin>	 :)
[14:51:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS11) 10Daniel Kinzler: Collect usage tracking info in ParserOutput. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/161487 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64588) 
[14:52:17] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Daniel Kinzler: Record usage info from ParserOutput to the database. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162650 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64589) 
[14:54:28] <lbenedix1>	 aude: I'm not using any framework right now... maybe I should ;)
[14:55:00] <lbenedix1>	 I dont have a bot-account
[15:03:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Record usage info from ParserOutput to the database. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162650 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64589) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[15:25:22] <sjoerddebruin>	 Geo is getting on my nerves, let's cook dinner. :)
[15:40:01] <benestar>	 aude: it doesn't work for me -.-
[15:40:30] <aude>	 benestar: what?
[15:40:47] <benestar>	 aude: you have to change the order of checks
[15:40:49] <benestar>	 I get "Fatal error: Class 'Wikibase\Repo\Specials\SpecialEntitiesWithoutPageFactory::newSpecialEntitiesWithoutLabel' not found in C:\xampp\htdocs\mediawiki\w\includes\specialpage\SpecialPageFactory.php on line 407"
[15:41:06] <benestar>	 this is because you first check if it is a string and then if it is a callable
[15:41:19] <benestar>	 however, 'Wikibase\Repo\Specials\SpecialEntitiesWithoutPageFactory::newSpecialEntitiesWithoutLabel' is both a string and a callable
[15:41:30] <aude>	 link?
[15:41:38] <benestar>	 it should be treated as a callable instead of a string
[15:41:51] <benestar>	 aude: only on my localhost ;)
[15:41:52] <aude>	 it worked for me when i tried
[15:42:06] <benestar>	 did you try passing a string callable?
[15:42:46] <aude>	 i tried array( 'SpecialCategories', 'newSpecialCategories' )
[15:42:59] <aude>	 or $this, 'new...'
[15:44:29] <benestar>	 aude: but not 'SpecialCategories::newSpecialCategories' ... ;)
[15:44:55] <benestar>	 we can also use the array syntax but the string syntax is cleaner imo
[15:49:16] <benestar>	 aude: see https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/162900/
[15:49:49] <aude>	 was about to try that :)
[15:49:57] <aude>	 can see if it works ok
[15:50:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Bene: Use factory class to construct SpecialEntitiesWithoutPage instances [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162903 
[15:51:39] <benestar>	 aude: now using your implementation and killed two classes while creating one \o/
[15:51:55] <aude>	 :)
[15:52:17] <aude>	 if jenkins says yes, then i say yes
[15:53:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Henning Snater: Refactored edittoolbar options [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/160627 
[15:53:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS6) 10Henning Snater: Refactored toolbars [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/161453 
[18:05:21] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModelSerialization] 15JanZerebecki 04force-pushed 06fix-empty-map-v2 from 143122cab to 1448b373e: 02http://git.io/6MZeoA
[18:05:21] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModelSerialization/06fix-empty-map-v2 1448b373e 15Jan Zerebecki: Add OPTION_OBJECTS_FOR_MAPS....
[18:15:28] <sjoerddebruin>	 Are all those posters in the public domain? https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Popcorn_Time_Interface.jpg
[18:17:47] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseDataModelSerialization/fix-empty-map-v2/48b373e : Jan Zerebecki The build has errored. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModelSerialization/builds/36281928
[18:18:18] <sjoerddebruin>	 Oh wait, I need the channel under this one. -_-
[18:18:56] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModelSerialization] 15JanZerebecki opened pull request #89: Add OPTION_OBJECTS_FOR_MAPS. (06master...06fix-empty-map-v2) 02http://git.io/ZLTcig
[18:33:10] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModelSerialization] 15JanZerebecki 04force-pushed 06fix-empty-map-v2 from 1448b373e to 148fac4eb: 02http://git.io/6MZeoA
[18:33:10] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModelSerialization/06fix-empty-map-v2 148fac4eb 15Jan Zerebecki: Add OPTION_OBJECTS_FOR_MAPS....
[18:45:24] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseDataModelSerialization/fix-empty-map-v2/8fac4eb : Jan Zerebecki The build has errored. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModelSerialization/builds/36284400
[18:47:54] <sjoerddebruin>	 GerardM-: The betaversion of labellister is working again.
[19:26:38] <aude>	 Lydia_WMDE: deployed!
[19:26:58] <Lydia_WMDE>	 \o/
[19:27:07] <aude>	 people should try out the new ui stuff etc
[19:27:15] <lazowik>	 what? where?
[19:27:16] <aude>	 all seems ok so far
[19:27:23] <aude>	 https://test.wikidata.org/wiki/Q22 :)
[19:27:49] <aude>	 now there are section edit buttons for site links and "other languages"
[19:29:27] <lazowik>	 in other languages changes height on edit clicked for me
[19:29:45] <lazowik>	 editing statements also
[19:30:22] <aude>	 try purging
[19:30:37] <aude>	 it might be a real issue though
[19:31:06] <lazowik>	 nah, that's not cache
[19:31:22] <lazowik>	 that's not a drastic change
[19:31:24] <lazowik>	 but still
[19:31:29] <aude>	 yeah
[19:32:01] <lazowik>	 and switching to edit feels laggy
[19:32:11] <lazowik>	 it's not 2s lag
[19:32:29] <lazowik>	 more of a feeling of lag
[19:32:45] * aude nods
[19:32:58] <aude>	 Lydia_WMDE: can we collect feedback somewhere?
[19:33:30] <sjoerddebruin>	 I think it would be nice to have the close button for "In other languages" on the same place like "edit" instead of "save".
[19:33:45] <lazowik>	 aude: and some of this things probably existed before
[19:33:49] <sjoerddebruin>	 People who want to save need to make edits first, by moving the mouse.
[19:33:52] <lazowik>	 I just noticed them now
[19:33:52] <aude>	 lazowik: idk
[19:33:56] <Lydia_WMDE>	 post it here. i will collect :)
[19:33:59] <aude>	 we changed a bit
[19:34:04] <aude>	 Lydia_WMDE: ok!
[19:34:16] <lazowik>	 sitelinks edit mode shifts columns widths
[19:34:20] <sjoerddebruin>	 People who accidently clicked, want to leave asp.
[19:35:14] <sjoerddebruin>	 It's weird.
[19:35:35] <lazowik>	 and in general this small [edit] looks like it's too small to switch the whole block into edit :p
[19:35:42] * lazowik is being weird
[19:36:11] <lazowik>	 Also known as could be dropped if no aliases are there
[19:36:15] <sjoerddebruin>	 People who only want to edit the sitelink for a specific language at the bottom of a long list need to scroll up?
[19:36:26] <lazowik>	 also that ^
[19:36:43] <lazowik>	 in general the idea seems a bit off
[19:36:48] <sjoerddebruin>	 Should be configurable per user: old way or mass editing.
[19:36:59] <lazowik>	 edit on click would be awesome, but then links
[19:37:45] <lazowik>	 uhm
[19:37:48] <lazowik>	 sorting is broken
[19:37:50] <lazowik>	 sometimes
[19:39:02] <lazowik>	 ok, works now
[19:39:06] <lazowik>	 maybe cache
[19:40:21] <Lydia_WMDE>	 some of those things are a bit weird indeed. that's mostly because they are in-between steps for the new UI
[19:40:33] <Lydia_WMDE>	 so they'll keep evolving towards the mockups we published
[19:47:08] <Dereckson>	 Hi.
[19:47:19] <sjoerddebruin>	 Hey Dereckson 
[19:47:38] <Dereckson>	 Could you restore [[Q3186094]] at the request of Harmonia_Amanda, to split a previously merged item in two parts?
[19:48:29] <sjoerddebruin>	 FakirNL deleted that one, so I think it's good to ping him here. ^
[19:49:21] <FakirNL>	 what?
[19:49:43] <sjoerddebruin>	 It's about https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q3186094&action=edit&redlink=1 , FakirNL.
[19:50:05] <FakirNL>	 which I merged with Q2503890
[19:50:07] <FakirNL>	 [[Q2503890]]
[19:50:11] <FakirNL>	 which has only one link
[19:50:21] <Dereckson>	 FakirNL: on #wikidata-fr, an user asks to undelete Q3186094, merged with Q2503890 to resplit them, as they are about two different notions.
[19:50:26] <FakirNL>	 but well, restored
[19:50:30] <Dereckson>	 Thank you.
[19:50:41] <FakirNL>	 you can do the rest yourself
[19:51:41] <Dereckson>	 FakirNL: I guess she wants to apply https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1533
[19:52:00] <sjoerddebruin>	 Weird property.
[19:52:21] <Dereckson>	 It's a property prepared by https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Names
[19:53:06] <Dereckson>	 (I used 'named after' before, but there were some issues with people using "said to be the same")
[19:53:28] <sjoerddebruin>	 Really active project.
[19:53:48] <sjoerddebruin>	 When the entity suggester gets updated to the new code, the first name property would appear much higher. :)
[19:53:57] <sjoerddebruin>	 given name*
[19:55:15] <Dereckson>	 I would like to see a tool, to help correct text or citation issues, using Wikidata to identify what part of a complex name is the given name, what part is the surname, what part is the honorific, etc.
[19:55:33] <Dereckson>	 Wikidata will be a good source to "decode" names.
[19:55:37] <sjoerddebruin>	 :)
[19:56:03] <sjoerddebruin>	 So we don't need defaultsort anymore...
[19:58:35] <Dereckson>	 sjoerddebruin: there is a tricky case for defaultsort: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q381010
[19:58:57] <sjoerddebruin>	 Yes.
[19:59:24] <sjoerddebruin>	 But I don't think categories will survive for ever, so we also need a defaultsort-alternative.
[21:24:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Bene: Fix CommonsMedia tracking [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/161803 
[21:25:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Bene: [C: 031] "@Daniel: Added a test" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/161803 (owner: 10Bene)
[21:49:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Ori.livneh: Drop a few additional EntityId type annotations that are breaking in prod [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.24-wmf22) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163035 
[21:50:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Ori.livneh: Drop a few additional EntityId type annotations that are breaking in prod [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.24-wmf21) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163037 
[21:51:22] <hoo>	 uh
[21:51:24] <hoo>	 hi ori 
[21:51:38] <hoo>	 Is that hhvm acting up?
[21:51:53] <ori>	 hoo: it's the same underlying issue of the class_alias thing not working, yeah
[21:52:00] <hoo>	 Yeah, seen these
[21:52:05] <ori>	 hoo: would it be ok to merge those to the prod branches?
[21:52:10] <hoo>	 Yikes
[21:52:13] <ori>	 hoo: again, not intended for master (which is already fixed anyway afaik)
[21:52:43] <hoo>	 Well, that will break if we consider to update our branch with our usual build mechanism
[21:52:54] <hoo>	 can you make the changes against the Wikibase branch?
[21:53:00] <hoo>	 I can also do that, but I need a few minutes
[21:53:03] <ori>	 of the Wikidata repo?
[21:53:13] <hoo>	 No, the Wikibase repo
[21:53:19] <hoo>	 and then I can make you a new build
[21:53:29] <hoo>	 Wikidata deploys are a little more complicated
[21:53:32] <hoo>	 composer and stuff
[21:53:41] <ori>	 yeah, i actually think it's pretty neat how you do it
[21:53:47] <ori>	 i'd like to use a similar model for some other projects
[21:55:03] <hoo>	 ok, indeed already fixed on master
[21:55:16] <aude>	 i think ori's patches are ok for now
[21:55:17] <ori>	 and indeed i don't see any errors at all on 1.25 branch
[21:55:39] <aude>	 i don't think we'll do more builds
[21:56:00] <hoo>	 Partly :S
[21:56:06] <aude>	 btw, we got rid of most of those specific class alias uses in master
[21:56:12] <hoo>	 ori: does it work if we hint against qualified classes (not the aliases)?
[21:56:13] * aude working on EntityPerPage right now
[21:56:15] <hoo>	 it should, right
[21:56:28] <hoo>	 like \Wikibase\stuffs\ItemId
[21:56:42] <hoo>	 aude: Awesome
[21:56:52] <hoo>	 If you say we're ok to go, I'm also ok
[21:56:57] <aude>	 hoo: \Wikibase\stuffs\ItemId seems ok in hhvm
[21:57:08] <hoo>	 Then do that on master
[21:57:12] <hoo>	 or just move them into proper NSs
[21:57:31] <aude>	 we have to move to ns
[21:57:48] * aude already tried other approches unsuccessfully
[21:57:54] <mutante>	 hello . 
[21:57:54] <hoo>	 of course that's the better option mid-term
[21:57:55] <mutante>	 check if wikidata.org dispatch lag is higher than 2 minutes
[21:57:56] <hoo>	 hi mutante 
[21:57:58] <hoo>	 :S
[21:58:08] <mutante>	 that check is broken since like 3 days
[21:58:12] <mutante>	 the output is now NULL
[21:58:17] <hoo>	 mutante: Looks good
[21:58:22] <mutante>	 so it becomes actually UNKNOWN 
[21:58:24] <aude>	 ori: do you want to deploy now? or in swat?
[21:58:28] <mutante>	 instead of OK or CRIT
[21:58:43] <hoo>	 mutante: Where's the code of the check?
[21:59:35] <hoo>	 got it
[21:59:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 031] "okay with me" [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.24-wmf21) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163037 (owner: 10Ori.livneh)
[22:00:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Drop a few additional EntityId type annotations that are breaking in prod [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.24-wmf22) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163035 (owner: 10Ori.livneh)
[22:00:53] <mutante>	 hoo: it looks like it was deleted by yuvipanda :p
[22:01:00] <mutante>	 -bash: /usr/local/lib/nagios/plugins/check_wikidata: No such file or directory
[22:01:07] <mutante>	 modules/nagios_common/files/check_commands/check_wikidata.cfg:    command_line    /usr/local/lib/nagios/plugins/check_wikidata
[22:01:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Drop a few additional EntityId type annotations that are breaking in prod [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.24-wmf21) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163037 (owner: 10Ori.livneh)
[22:05:07] <hoo>	 mutante: so nothing to worry about from our side, I guess :P The code looks kind of scary, though
[22:05:13] <hoo>	 regex parsing of json, ftw
[22:05:19] <Reedy>	 lolol
[22:05:50] <mutante>	 makes a ticket for it .. sigh
[22:05:57] <mutante>	 knew something would break on icinga
[22:06:12] <hoo>	 what's that check good for anyway?
[22:06:21] <hoo>	 Who gets alerted?
[22:06:30] <mutante>	 sigh again
[22:06:43] <mutante>	 i'll find the relevant changes..
[22:08:44] <mutante>	 hoo: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/project:operations/puppet+status:merged+message:wikidata,n,z
[22:09:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.24-wmf22) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163035 (owner: 10Ori.livneh)
[22:09:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Drop a few additional EntityId type annotations that are breaking in prod [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.24-wmf22) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163035 (owner: 10Ori.livneh)
[22:09:10] <mutante>	 the IRC channel does :p
[22:09:15] <mutante>	 icinga-wm: hi
[22:10:31] <mutante>	 also email to jzerebecki and "wikidata-monitoring"
[22:10:37] <mutante>	 the latter being an alias on your side
[22:10:42] <hoo>	 really?
[22:10:45] <mutante>	 yes
[22:10:52] <hoo>	 Interesting
[22:10:53] <mutante>	 and it took a while to set that all up
[22:11:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Drop a few additional EntityId type annotations that are breaking in prod [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.24-wmf21) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163037 (owner: 10Ori.livneh)
[22:11:16] <hoo>	 probably I'm not on taht
[22:12:07] <Lydia_WMDE>	 hoo: email tobi to get you on it if you want
[22:13:31] <hoo>	 "ParserOutput::addImage requires the title form with underscores" woot
[22:13:34] <aude>	 or add yourself in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/158438/1/files/icinga/contactgroups.cfg
[22:13:46] * aude was getting spammed twice so got removed there
[22:14:12] <hoo>	 aude: I don't have contact in the private puppet
[22:14:23] <hoo>	 and I don't want to bother adding one
[22:14:25] <aude>	 oh
[22:14:28] <hoo>	 anything regarding ops takes ages
[22:14:31] <aude>	 then poke tobi :)
[22:15:24] <hoo>	 Will do :)
[22:15:26] <hoo>	 "* @param string $name Title dbKey"
[22:15:45] <hoo>	 produce easy to use APIs they said...
[22:16:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] "This is a scary ParserOutput implementation detail..." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/161803 (owner: 10Bene)
[22:18:43] <aude>	 hoo: think that should be backported?
[22:19:18] <aude>	 scary indeed
[22:19:21] <hoo>	 is the other thing on master?
[22:19:27] <hoo>	 I mean the original change
[22:19:37] <hoo>	 on the branch
[22:19:42] * hoo should stop multitasking
[22:19:50] <mutante>	 seriously, i just joined the channel to report on the monitoring, we set this up in like 10 changes or more
[22:19:51] <aude>	 i think so
[22:19:57] <mutante>	 but now you don't want to ask for the contact
[22:20:05] <mutante>	 i'm here and in ops
[22:20:20] <hoo>	 mutante: Well, if we can get that done WMDE side, taht's easier
[22:20:23] <hoo>	 I guess
[22:21:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Aude: Fix CommonsMedia tracking [extensions/Wikibase] (wmf/1.25wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163044 
[22:21:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Hoo man: Fix CommonsMedia tracking [extensions/Wikibase] (wmf/1.25wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163044 (owner: 10Aude)
[22:21:41] <aude>	 alright
[22:21:48] <hoo>	 wtf
[22:21:48] <aude>	 i have a few things to go in
[22:21:58] <aude>	 ooooo
[22:22:45] <hoo>	 Gerrit is fun :P
[22:22:49] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.24-wmf21) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163037 (owner: 10Ori.livneh)
[22:22:53] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] "Per master" [extensions/Wikibase] (wmf/1.25wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163044 (owner: 10Aude)
[22:23:54] <ori>	 aude, hoo: hey, sorry, i got pulled into a quick meeting. i can sync them now if you like
[22:24:18] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hoo man: "Did Sean sign of the scheme definitions?" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/161477 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64586) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[22:25:05] <hoo>	 I guess we can just go for tonight's SWAT
[22:25:17] <hoo>	 I'm going to be up for at least another couple hours anyway
[22:25:47] <hoo>	 aude: the 1.25wmf1 updates are for Tuesday, I guess?
[22:26:06] <aude>	 monday
[22:26:26] * aude signs up for swat
[22:27:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Add back RepoApi.{get,post} for compatibility [extensions/Wikibase] (wmf/1.25wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162868 (owner: 10Aude)
[22:27:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Fix class not found error in WikiPageUpdater [extensions/Wikibase] (wmf/1.25wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162876 (owner: 10Aude)
[22:28:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] "No tests here? :/" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162874 (owner: 10Aude)
[22:28:04] <ori>	 cool
[22:28:07] <ori>	 thanks guys
[22:28:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] "Per master" [extensions/Wikibase] (wmf/1.25wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162876 (owner: 10Aude)
[22:29:09] <aude>	 ok,  i sign up for swat when the schedule is posted
[22:29:41] <hoo>	 aude: Oh, I thought you meant tonight's SWAT for ori's things
[22:29:54] <ori>	 yeah, that's what i understood as well
[22:30:18] <aude>	 ori: tonight is fine for your things
[22:30:24] <aude>	 monday for 1.25wmf1
[22:30:49] <aude>	 we'll have more proper fix for namespaces there
[22:31:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "@hoo: yes, see his comment on <https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/158078/>. There were minor changes to the schema though, for sqlite comp" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/161477 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64586) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[22:31:29] <DanielK_WMDE>	 hoo: regarding --^  i was planning to write an email to springle about that today, but didn't get around to it
[22:31:40] <ori>	 aude: 1.25wmf1 already has the fix, and it's working well
[22:31:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Aude: Move Diff-related classes into namespace [extensions/Wikibase] (wmf/1.25wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163046 
[22:32:03] <aude>	 ori: it's missing a few places
[22:32:03] <ori>	 aude: if it's feasible to just bump wmf22 to the same commit as 1.25wmf1 is on, that'd be even better
[22:32:06] <ori>	 aha
[22:32:10] <ori>	 k
[22:32:15] <aude>	 ori: no
[22:32:35] <aude>	 that's a big code change
[22:32:51] <aude>	 needs to spend weekend on test.wikidata etc
[22:33:06] <hoo>	 DanielK_WMDE: Ok, I might come around to CR the change... but first of all, I'm going to give Capiunto a bit of love tonight :P
[22:33:29] <ori>	 aude: kk
[22:35:42] <hoo>	 aude: What's the process to get an extension added to twn?
[22:35:51] <hoo>	 Capiunto seems to not get translations
[22:35:57] <aude>	 hoo:  no clue
[22:36:06] <legoktm>	 hoo: ask Raymond_ or submit a patch to the twn repo
[22:36:25] <legoktm>	 (https://github.com/wikimedia/translatewiki/ on gerrit)
[22:36:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix CommonsMedia tracking [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/161803 (owner: 10Bene)
[22:37:20] <hoo>	 legoktm: Thanks, will probably do that
[22:40:23] <hoo>	 <wikidata-org-desc> on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Version
[22:40:24] <hoo>	 :S
[22:40:34] <hoo>	 shouldn't that be fixed?
[22:40:39] <aude>	 i think i know what to do
[22:40:54] <legoktm>	 hoo: https://github.com/wmde/WikimediaBadges/pull/13
[22:41:20] <hoo>	 legoktm: m(
[22:41:28] <hoo>	 but thanks for catching :)
[22:41:44] <legoktm>	 just need to do the same for Wikidata.org
[22:41:49] <aude>	 yep
[22:41:52] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikimediaBadges] 15mariushoch pushed 2 new commits to 06master: 02http://git.io/sje6Hw
[22:41:52] <gh-wmde>	 13WikimediaBadges/06master 14f1e656e 15Kunal Mehta: Move $wgMesssageDirs outside of the extension function...
[22:41:52] <gh-wmde>	 13WikimediaBadges/06master 1415e787b 15Marius Hoch: Merge pull request #13 from legoktm/patch-1...
[22:41:52] <legoktm>	 but github is a pita
[22:42:22] <hoo>	 :D
[22:44:31] <sjoerddebruin>	 And who is Github on this picture? https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Nablus_souq_pita_118_-_Aug_2011.jpg
[22:44:54] <hoo>	 aude: Lydia_WMDE: Reed.y poked me about our components not specifying licenses for Special:version... gonna fix this, I guess
[22:45:08] <aude>	 :/
[22:45:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix CommonsMedia tracking [extensions/Wikibase] (wmf/1.25wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163044 (owner: 10Aude)
[22:46:53] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add back RepoApi.{get,post} for compatibility [extensions/Wikibase] (wmf/1.25wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162868 (owner: 10Aude)
[22:47:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix class not found error in WikiPageUpdater [extensions/Wikibase] (wmf/1.25wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162876 (owner: 10Aude)
[22:52:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix class not found error in WikiPageUpdater [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162874 (owner: 10Aude)
[23:23:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Remove RedirectCreationInteractor/ItemMergeInteractor::getErrorCodeInfo [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162800 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[23:31:06] <hoo>	 aude: Up for more CR? :P
[23:33:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Fix unit test expected inline CSS [extensions/Capiunto] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163061 
[23:34:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Remove RedirectCreationInteractor/ItemMergeInteractor::getErrorCodeInfo [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162800 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[23:34:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Aude: Move EntityPerPage-related classes into namespaces [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163062 
[23:35:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Conditionally load mw.capiunto.Infobox._render [extensions/Capiunto] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163063 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69540) 
[23:35:42] <aude>	 hoo: looking
[23:37:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Hoo man: Conditionally load mw.capiunto.Infobox._render [extensions/Capiunto] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163063 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69540) 
[23:37:56] <hoo>	 :)
[23:38:20] <aude>	 the css patch looks ok, but suppose jenkins runs the tests?
[23:38:28] <hoo>	 it should, yes
[23:39:28] <aude>	 for second thing, i would prefer to try manually in addition
[23:39:43] <hoo>	 Sure
[23:41:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Fix unit test expected inline CSS [extensions/Capiunto] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163061 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[23:41:34] <hoo>	 \o/
[23:47:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix unit test expected inline CSS [extensions/Capiunto] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163061 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[23:53:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Conditionally add the "capiunto.infobox.main" RL module [extensions/Capiunto] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163065 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69540) 
[23:59:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Properly specify level for error calls [extensions/Capiunto] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163066 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69540)