[00:34:47] <greg-g>	 btw: ori is trying to fix https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70747 (wikibase exception causing test.wikipedia.org to only show a nasty stack trace)
[03:44:21] <jayvdb>	 https://test.wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=wbgetentities&ids=Q6 = <api servedby="mw1017"><error code="internal_api_error_InvalidArgumentException" info="Exception Caught: AliasSerializer can only serialize an array of aliases" xml:space="preserve" /></api>
[03:45:19] <PiRSquared42>	 bugzilla?
[03:45:28] <jayvdb>	 due to some dodgy code in pywikibot core, that is causing our build to break: https://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/pywikibot-core/jobs/35077363
[03:46:34] <jayvdb>	 PiRSquared42: ya, will do soon if nobody pipes up with info.
[03:49:34] <aude>	 jayvdb: botched deploy
[03:49:42] <aude>	 new code, then revert
[03:49:56] <aude>	 to semi-random version :(
[03:50:05] <aude>	 and probably cache polluted there
[03:52:23] <aude>	 jayvdb: not sure anyone is around for us to fix now, but can see about it tomorrow 
[03:52:35] <aude>	 and am asking now, in case 
[03:59:32] <jayvdb>	 aude: no worries.  im fixing pwb so it doesnt hang when it sees that error.
[04:00:15] <jayvdb>	 btw, does the wmde team intend to start using #wikibase ?
[04:00:48] <jayvdb>	 or do you have a different, dev focused, channel ?
[04:03:58] <aude>	 jayvdb: is there #wikibase ?
[04:04:36] <aude>	 we are normally here, but suppose if we want something more dev oriented, can consider that
[04:04:43] <jayvdb>	 I've been hanging out there since the wikiba.se announcement, waiting for you all to arrive ;-)
[04:04:51] <aude>	 ah :)
[04:05:03] <aude>	 ok, i'm there now
[04:05:43] <aude>	 if you try test.wikidata with new items, it probably does work
[04:06:16] <aude>	 or beta wikidata maybe
[04:08:29] <PiRAlQuadrato>	 this channel is already mostly dev oriented
[04:09:27] <PiRAlQuadrato>	 and ops
[05:11:38] <OhComeOnNow>	 hi
[05:11:54] <OhComeOnNow>	 I have a question if anyone can possibly help
[05:12:36] <OhComeOnNow>	 I just created a new page, and I am trying to cite references, but everytime I try to put the source in, it will not save properly
[05:12:46] <OhComeOnNow>	 The link I mean
[05:12:49] <OhComeOnNow>	 the url
[05:13:23] <OhComeOnNow>	 Can anyone give me advice?
[05:14:13] <OhComeOnNow>	 admin
[05:14:24] <OhComeOnNow>	 !admin
[05:15:01] <OhComeOnNow>	 Is this the proper place to be asking questions?
[06:34:18] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Bene: "some review?" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158631 (owner: 10Bene)
[09:18:36] <github-wmde>	 [13jenkins-job-builder-config] 15tobijat pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/UWdwgA
[09:18:36] <github-wmde>	 13jenkins-job-builder-config/06master 1403152da 15Tobias Gritschacher: Remove Browsertest Job for Build...
[09:31:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Henning Snater: fingerprint*view widget sanitation [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159988 
[09:31:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Henning Snater: Moved edit feature from sitelinkview to sitelinkgroupview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159989 
[09:31:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Moved edit feature from sitelinkview to sitelinkgroupview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159989 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[09:31:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Henning Snater: fingerprint*view widget sanitation [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159988 
[09:34:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Henning Snater: Moved edit feature from sitelinkview to sitelinkgroupview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159989 
[10:00:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10WikidataBuilder: New Wikidata Build - 12/09/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159990 
[10:04:49] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Abandoned) 10Aude: New Wikidata Build - 12/09/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159990 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder)
[10:07:18] <aude>	 Tobi_WMDE_SWE_NA: not urgent but solving the issues in https://github.com/wmde/WikidataBuilder/issues would be super helpful
[10:07:30] <aude>	 especially https://github.com/wmde/WikidataBuilder/issues/25
[10:08:14] <aude>	 since https://github.com/wmde/WikidataBuildResources is what i mainly maintain and prefer to use for deployments, and it's annoying to maintain
[10:08:18] <aude>	 a second place 
[10:17:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159990 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder)
[10:21:06] <sjoerddebruin>	 Look, it's a webcam in your office guys! http://adultcatfinder.com/embed/cat.gif
[10:21:42] <aude>	 hah
[10:23:53] <gh-datavalues>	 [13Geo] 15adrianlang 04force-pushed 06augmentParseException from 14ab8433d to 14fdd8d53: 02http://git.io/8qPLeA
[10:23:53] <gh-datavalues>	 13Geo/06augmentParseException 14fdd8d53 15Adrian Lang: Pass rawValue and expectedFormat arguments to ParseExceptions...
[10:27:53] <Tobi_WMDE_SWE_NA>	 sjoerddebruin: whaaat?
[10:27:55] <Tobi_WMDE_SWE_NA>	 :D
[10:32:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: [C: 032] fingerprint*view widget sanitation [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159988 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[10:36:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: "Why is this change necessary? Does it change behaviour or is it refactoring?" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159989 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[10:40:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 031] Add an initServices method to SpecialWikibaseRepoPage [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159516 (owner: 10Bene)
[10:41:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: fingerprint*view widget sanitation [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159988 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[10:45:44] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: "Needs manual rebase :/" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158631 (owner: 10Bene)
[10:49:02] <Tobi_WMDE_SWE>	 jzerebecki: if you want and have time you could also work on implementing support for statements on properties in the DataModelSerialization. It should be rather easy and straight forward to do that.
[10:49:12] <aude>	 +1
[10:49:15] <Tobi_WMDE_SWE>	 jzerebecki: this would be https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66425
[10:49:37] <Tobi_WMDE_SWE>	 jzerebecki: the support for this in datamodel has been added in https://github.com/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/pull/182
[10:52:30] <jzerebecki>	 Tobi_WMDE_SWE: yes i think thats a better choice
[10:53:01] <Tobi_WMDE_SWE>	 great. and also important as it blocks a frontend task
[10:57:17] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/50d5bdd : Henning Snater The build is still failing. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/35105891
[11:02:32] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15tobijat pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/vKjVPA
[11:02:32] <gh-wmde>	 13WikidataBrowserTests/06master 144f57613 15Tobias Gritschacher: Update Gemfile.lock
[11:36:22] <aude>	 omg, scary
[11:36:31] <aude>	 on Special:Allpages we load each entity to get the label
[11:36:36] <Adrian_WMDE>	 :D
[11:36:39] <aude>	 or anywhere else onLinkBegin is invoked
[11:36:48] <aude>	 but that's a good way to find broken items!
[11:40:15] <aude>	 Tobi_WMDE_SWE: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70767 (it might be a duplicate bug)
[11:43:06] <Tobi_WMDE_SWE>	 aude: ok. I've put this on the list for the next sprint. we'll discuss it on tuesday during story time.
[11:43:19] <jzerebecki>	 Tobi_WMDE_SWE: um after some code reading i do not see how DataModelSerialization would not serialize claims/statements on properties, because getClaim() is also on Entity not only on Item, thus the serialization of Entity already takes care of that
[11:43:28] <aude>	 ok
[11:43:43] <aude>	 not highest priority as it's not a new issue
[11:44:07] <aude>	 not breaking things, except i htink occasionally recent changes and watchlist does break if too much is requested
[11:45:20] <Tobi_WMDE_SWE>	 jzerebecki: does that mean that also statements are supported?
[11:45:26] <Tobi_WMDE_SWE>	 not only claims?
[11:49:35] <Tobi_WMDE_SWE>	 jzerebecki: you can probably poke JeroenDeDauw via email about that
[11:50:10] <jzerebecki>	 Tobi_WMDE_SWE: aw Property does not return statements in getClaim like Item does, that is why its not supported yet
[11:51:05] <Tobi_WMDE_SWE>	 jzerebecki: ok
[11:52:15] <Tobi_WMDE_SWE>	 jzerebecki: see also https://github.com/wmde/WikibaseDataModelSerialization/issues/68
[11:52:43] <Tobi_WMDE_SWE>	 basically we also want to get rid of the inheritance
[11:53:15] <Tobi_WMDE_SWE>	 so, might be better to do this first. not sure.
[11:54:08] <aude>	 i was doing similar in the internalserialization component
[11:54:47] <aude>	 https://github.com/wmde/WikibaseInternalSerialization/pull/32 (need to follow up once more critical things are resolved)
[11:55:26] <aude>	 then https://github.com/wmde/WikibaseInternalSerialization/blob/master/src/Deserializers/LegacyPropertyDeserializer.php doesn't do anything with statements
[11:55:41] <aude>	 but statements probably won't be in legacy stuff
[11:55:45] <aude>	 on properties
[12:13:33] <Lydia_WMDE>	 aude: https://github.com/Wikidata-lib/PropertySuggester/releases/tag/1.2 :) (let's look into using that after all the datamodel issues are worked out)
[12:13:45] <Lydia_WMDE>	 just tagged
[12:13:56] <Lydia_WMDE>	 also: hi from brno
[12:14:02] <aude>	 ok
[12:29:26] <sjoerddebruin>	 Oh dear. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q18016466 (cc: Lydia_WMDE)
[12:29:49] <Lydia_WMDE>	 hehe
[12:30:06] <Lydia_WMDE>	 ah
[12:30:11] <Lydia_WMDE>	 for the KDE eV item
[12:30:17] <Lydia_WMDE>	 that's nice
[12:30:23] <aude>	 :D
[12:30:24] <aude>	 hah
[12:30:30] <Lydia_WMDE>	 :P
[12:32:20] <Lydia_WMDE>	 now if someone would also update the enwp article...
[12:32:35] <aude>	 with a wikidata template
[12:34:14] <Lydia_WMDE>	 yes!
[12:34:27] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15tobijat pushed 2 new commits to 06reference_tests: 02http://git.io/I-ERMg
[12:34:27] <gh-wmde>	 13WikidataBrowserTests/06reference_tests 144241c5b 15Tobias Gritschacher: Merge branch 'master' into reference_tests
[12:34:27] <gh-wmde>	 13WikidataBrowserTests/06reference_tests 14394e21f 15Tobias Gritschacher: WIP - Add browsertests for references
[12:37:53] <Lydia_WMDE>	 http://creative-destruction.me/2014/09/10/kde-akademy-2014-welcome-new-kde-board/ source if anyone wants to add it
[12:40:07] <sjoerddebruin>	 done
[12:40:45] <Lydia_WMDE>	 :)
[12:40:46] <Lydia_WMDE>	 thanks sjoerddebruin
[12:41:07] <Lydia_WMDE>	 gosh
[12:41:10] <sjoerddebruin>	 Also added some other stuff to the item. :P
[12:41:11] <Lydia_WMDE>	 i have a viaf identifier?
[12:41:14] <Lydia_WMDE>	 and bnf?
[12:41:15] <sjoerddebruin>	 It seems
[12:41:15] <Lydia_WMDE>	 -.-
[12:41:22] <Lydia_WMDE>	 interesting...
[12:41:26] <Lydia_WMDE>	 :D
[12:41:44] <sjoerddebruin>	 I see KDE here, so I think it is. http://viaf.org/processed/BNF%7C16755328
[12:42:12] <aude>	 no references! ?
[12:42:13] <Lydia_WMDE>	 *nod*
[12:42:21] <Lydia_WMDE>	 aude: fix it! :P
[12:42:40] <aude>	 oh, i see one
[12:42:41] <Lydia_WMDE>	 sjoerddebruin: ahhhh because of my book probably
[12:42:47] <Lydia_WMDE>	 open advice
[12:42:49] <aude>	 stated in enwp
[12:43:32] <sjoerddebruin>	 aude: Are you going to proof that Lydia_WMDE is a woman? :O
[12:43:45] <Adrian_WMDE>	 oO
[12:43:47] <aude>	 :D
[12:43:54] <Lydia_WMDE>	 lol
[12:43:56] <Lydia_WMDE>	 right
[13:02:21] <jeroendedauw_>	 !nyan |  Tobi_WMDE_SWE 
[13:02:21] <wm-bot>	 Tobi_WMDE_SWE: ~=[,,_,,]:3
[13:02:44] <jeroendedauw_>	 It's an  Adrian_WMDE !
[13:03:09] <Amir1>	 Stryn: Hey, Have you seen my talk page?
[13:03:51] <Stryn>	 Amir1: yes, thank you :) I will fix those today
[13:04:18] <Amir1>	 You are welcome 
[13:06:12] <Adrian_WMDE>	 jeroendedauw :)
[13:07:17] <Adrian_WMDE>	 jeroendedauw_: It's an angry Adrian_WMDE (https://github.com/facebook/hhvm/issues/3740)
[13:09:03] <jeroendedauw_>	 Ohnoez
[13:15:29] <Tobi_WMDE_SWE>	 -_- Adrian_WMDE 
[13:15:47] <aude>	 it's a tobi!
[13:16:30] <Tobi_WMDE_SWE>	 :) 
[13:31:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Adrian Lang: Adapt to changes in data-values/geo 1.0.0 [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159995 
[13:35:17] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Adrian_WMDE: well, I'd start being angry if they don't fix it
[13:35:29] <JeroenDeDauw>	 It's to be expected you have some issues if you reimplement an entire language
[13:38:59] <Adrian_WMDE>	 Maybe reimplementing an entire language is the issue here
[13:39:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "Yay! Thanks" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159995 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[13:39:20] <Adrian_WMDE>	 Also, not consistently using the reference test suite
[13:39:33] <Adrian_WMDE>	 Also, not having a good reference test suite in the first place
[13:40:16] <ralgis>	 Hi. There is a spammer on #wikidata → AnimalsPoker
[13:40:19] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Adrian_WMDE: if you get angry about that, then you can be full time angry at most software projects out there :)
[13:40:36] <ralgis>	 She sent me a private message about a poker website when I joined the channel.
[13:40:50] <sjoerddebruin>	 Same, but I can't kick here.
[13:41:10] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Oh, I thought that was adertising on my phones IRC client >_>
[13:41:31] <sjoerddebruin>	 Who can kick here btw?
[13:41:44] <sjoerddebruin>	 Oh, that helps. :P
[13:41:48] <ralgis>	 Great :)
[18:08:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Adapt to changes in data-values/geo 1.0.0 [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159995 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[18:09:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "Now Wikibase Query will definitely need updating :)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159995 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[18:16:51] <JeroenDeDauw>	 jzerebecki: did you look at https://github.com/wmde/AskWikitextSerialization/pull/3 ?
[18:17:41] <jzerebecki>	 JeroenDeDauw: not fully, still have it open
[20:11:04] <DanielK_WMDE>	 aude: hey. back online. did i miss anything? any pointers you need?
[20:11:51] <DanielK_WMDE>	 if there are any small but urgent follow-ups, i can probably get those done before monday. everything else will have to wait
[20:12:10] <DanielK_WMDE>	 do we know more about the serialization breakage now? i just saw the stack traces you posted on bugzilla
[20:12:30] <benestar>	 it's a DanielK_WMDE :D
[20:12:41] <DanielK_WMDE>	 hey benestar!
[20:12:49] <benestar>	 is there also a dennyvrandecic_ ?
[20:13:12] <dennyvrandecic_>	 it is!
[20:13:24] <DanielK_WMDE>	 ohai!
[20:14:36] <dennyvrandecic_>	 aloha
[20:15:11] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseInternalSerialization] 15JeroenDeDauw closed pull request #32: Fix Item deserialization for items with claims (06master...06claimserializer) 02http://git.io/oiutjw
[20:15:29] <benestar>	 dennyvrandecic_ so now I've got some time ;) tell me about your idea?
[20:15:36] <dennyvrandecic_>	 sure, will pm
[20:15:40] <benestar>	 k
[20:15:59] <JohnLewis>	 dennyvrandecic_ has ideas? :D
[20:16:33] <dennyvrandecic_>	 yes, and sometimes they don't let me go
[20:16:50] <JohnLewis>	 :p
[20:16:50] <onnellinen>	 JohnLewis: don't be cynical :p
[20:17:33] <JohnLewis>	 onnellinen: let me be cynical at least once
[20:19:12] <onnellinen>	 at least? do I look like santa claus?
[20:19:25] <onnellinen>	 I'm just onnellinen :D
[20:30:52] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Let's just all stare at JohnLewis 
[20:31:08] <JohnLewis>	 JeroenDeDauw: stop it :(
[20:31:39] * JeroenDeDauw startes at JohnLewis throuh his CLI IRC client and enlists ceiling cat to do the same
[21:39:04] * Lydia_WMDE stares at JeroenDeDauw staring at JohnLewis
[21:39:38] * JohnLewis looks around and then goes back to spamming people
[21:39:46] <JohnLewis>	 (in the good way of course :p)
[21:40:17] <JeroenDeDauw>	 !nyan | Lydia_WMDE 
[21:40:17] <wm-bot>	 Lydia_WMDE: ~=[,,_,,]:3
[21:46:51] <Lydia_WMDE>	  ~=[,,_,,]:3
[23:21:07] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/7151f09 : Translation updater bot The build was broken. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/35168207