[01:30:21] <danilo_>	 hi, someone knows in which table of database the featured articles badges are recorded?
[06:45:09] <aharoni>	 Hallo.
[06:45:21] <GerardM->	 hoi amir
[06:46:02] <aharoni>	 The recent badges change - did it also unify the star icons that are shown in the interlanguage links' lists?
[06:46:14] <aharoni>	 I have a vague recollection that they used to be different between projects.
[06:47:58] <GerardM->	 aharoni they can be different
[06:48:05] <GerardM->	 it is configurable
[06:48:31] <GerardM->	 there are wikis where they still differ
[06:49:11] <aharoni>	 GerardM-: do you have an example of a wiki where they still differ?
[06:49:28] <GerardM->	 I can ask Amir
[06:50:14] <GerardM->	 was chatting with him
[06:53:01] <GerardM->	 aharoni: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Development/Badges#Requests_for_different_icons
[06:53:16] <Amir1>	 :)
[06:53:22] <aharoni>	 Hi Amir1.
[06:53:53] <Amir1>	 hey :)
[06:53:57] <GerardM->	 <grin> told him about all this
[06:59:16] <Amir1>	 GerardM-: I finished the script to get freebase DOBs
[06:59:31] <GerardM->	 :)
[06:59:33] <Amir1>	 I  just need to emerge it with dump reader and compare them
[06:59:47] <GerardM->	 that is AWESOME
[06:59:56] <GerardM->	 we have to do the publication right
[07:00:06] <GerardM->	 it NEEDS a publication on the WMF blog
[07:01:54] <aharoni>	 Amir1: Do you have a bot permission on he.wiki?
[07:02:24] <Amir1>	 GerardM-: Once it's finished I'll inform you
[07:02:30] <Amir1>	 aharoni: I don't think so
[07:02:35] <Amir1>	 Do I need to make a request?
[07:03:12] <Amir1>	 if he.wp accepts global bots, my bot have the right
[07:03:16] <Amir1>	 *has
[07:03:45] <aharoni>	 Amir1: Dexbot?
[07:04:44] <Amir1>	 yes
[07:15:33] <aharoni>	 Amir1: can you please do a test run on five articles?
[07:15:42] <Amir1>	 sure :)
[07:26:32] <Amir1>	 aharoni: done
[07:27:18] <aharoni>	 Amir1: looks like it's not marked as a bot edit.
[07:27:50] <aharoni>	 Can you please request it according to https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:BOT/EN ?
[07:29:03] <aharoni>	 Amir1: the edits look good to me.
[07:29:14] <aharoni>	 but please request the permission.
[07:29:27] <aharoni>	 I'm not sure why isn't the global bot permission working.
[07:34:21] <Amir1>	 sure :)
[07:34:33] <Amir1>	 sorry haven't seen your comments here
[07:35:37] <Amir1>	 aharoni: I can't connect to he.wp without proxy
[07:35:44] <aharoni>	 Behhh.
[07:35:45] <Amir1>	 it's blocked in Iran (even with https)
[07:35:50] <aharoni>	 OK, I'll request it for you.
[07:35:54] <aharoni>	 But you can run a bot?
[07:36:00] <aharoni>	 What a ridiculous thing.
[07:36:06] <Amir1>	 I run it via labs
[07:36:09] * aharoni bangs head on the desk.
[07:36:34] <Amir1>	 if you want Give me ip-block exempt temporarily, I'll do the rest 
[07:36:34] <aharoni>	 requesting
[07:37:51] <Amir1>	 GerardM-: Lydia_WMDE : https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Ladsgroup/Birth_date_report3/1
[07:38:18] <Amir1>	 need some work
[07:39:19] <GerardM->	 it does but it is ever so cool
[07:57:30] <Amir1>	 aharoni: thank you
[08:00:36] <GerardM->	 Amir1: you have mail
[08:04:29] <Amir1>	 GerardM-: Interesting, I'd like to write a bot to do that
[08:04:35] <Amir1>	 (at least some parts)
[08:04:39] <Amir1>	 but I'm super busy
[08:05:02] <magioladitis>	 Bot to remove badges from the English Wikipedia completed trial phase https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Dexbot_2
[08:05:09] <magioladitis>	 Amir1: "
[08:05:34] <JD|cloud>	 GerardM-: please do respond to the thread just brought up on your talk page
[08:05:34] <Amir1>	 hey :)
[08:05:52] <GerardM->	 I am not aware of this
[08:05:59] <JD|cloud>	 well that's very bad
[08:06:01] <GerardM->	 as bugzilla knows 
[08:06:10] <GerardM->	 the indicator is broken
[08:06:16] <JD|cloud>	 it's your responsibility to stay updated w/ what is posted on your talk page
[08:06:19] <GerardM->	 I do not see when there is something
[08:06:23] <GerardM->	 yeah right
[08:06:27] <JD|cloud>	 well it is still your responsibility
[08:07:23] <magioladitis>	 Amir1: did you ask if anyone has a better idea on "the bot removes Link FA and Link GA templates separately (Since they list are produced by different generators), merging them to one code causes issues"?
[08:09:01] <Amir1>	 magioladitis: no
[08:09:23] <magioladitis>	 Amir1: Not a big problem of course. Just seeking the best :)
[08:09:33] <Amir1>	 I see :)
[08:09:53] <magioladitis>	 As you see I moved the bot trial 2 days earlier than I have first planned
[08:10:02] <magioladitis>	 to catch some more attention
[08:10:06] <GerardM->	 JD|cloud: with single examples of something going wrong, there is not much to go on
[08:10:20] <magioladitis>	 Amir1: I 'll wait another 24 hours for any reaction
[08:10:47] <Amir1>	 magioladitis: okay, thanks
[08:10:51] <JD|cloud>	 you still are required to respond
[08:10:54] <magioladitis>	 Amir1: I hope I acted fast enough for you :)
[08:11:01] <JD|cloud>	 even if you need more information
[08:11:16] <Amir1>	 magioladitis: :) you're doing the best
[08:11:24] <magioladitis>	 thanks
[08:24:59] <GerardM->	 JD|cloud: I answered
[08:25:05] <GerardM->	 by the way thanks
[08:25:19] <GerardM->	 happy to have received your pointer
[08:25:26] <Amir1>	 GerardM-: See this page again: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Ladsgroup/Birth_date_report3/1
[08:26:01] <GerardM->	 Amir :)
[08:26:08] <GerardM->	 when can I write about this ?
[08:26:33] <GerardM->	 or can I ?
[08:26:40] <JD|cloud>	 thanks
[08:26:45] <JD|cloud>	 please do this consistently in the future
[08:26:46] * JD|cloud goes to bed
[08:27:29] <GerardM->	 jd ... <grin> help me by indicating such notices
[08:27:32] <GerardM->	 I do not see them
[08:28:11] <Amir1>	 The report will finish very soon
[08:28:19] <Amir1>	 considering how fast it goes
[08:57:46] <Amir1>	 GerardM-: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Another_report:_On_differences_of_Wikidata_and_freebase
[10:00:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10WikidataBuilder: New Wikidata Build - 31/08/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/157495 
[10:00:45] <gh-wmde>	 [13Wikiba.se] 15Benestar created 06forkme (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/9uBOgA
[10:00:45] <gh-wmde>	 13Wikiba.se/06forkme 14842f369 15Bene: Move forkme banner a bit down and display it using css
[10:01:35] <gh-wmde>	 [13Wikiba.se] 15Benestar opened pull request #18: Move forkme banner a bit down and display it using css (06master...06forkme) 02http://git.io/WphA8A
[10:19:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/157495 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder)
[10:25:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Abandoned) 10Addshore: New Wikidata Build - 28/08/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/156764 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder)
[10:25:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Abandoned) 10Addshore: New Wikidata Build - 29/08/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/157052 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder)
[10:25:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Addshore: "recheck" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155060 (owner: 10Bene)
[10:26:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Addshore: "recheck" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/156044 (owner: 10Bene)
[10:28:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Addshore: Remove use of deprecated Diff class aliases [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/157163 
[10:34:04] <gh-wmde>	 [13Wikiba.se] 15addshore 04deleted 06forkme at 14842f369: 02http://git.io/CjIoGg
[10:35:33] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/62c7e0b : jeroendedauw The build is still failing. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/34023171
[10:37:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] New Wikidata Build - 31/08/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/157495 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder)
[10:37:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Refactor ClaimsViewTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155060 (owner: 10Bene)
[10:46:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: New Wikidata Build - 31/08/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/157495 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder)
[10:55:48] <Jhs>	 okay, the page sizes in Wikidata make no sense to me at all.
[10:55:54] <Jhs>	 how the hell can this change: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q14116&diff=154539410&oldid=151905326
[10:56:10] <Jhs>	 be an _addition_ of almost 10 kilobytes? https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q14116&action=history
[10:56:28] <multichill>	 Jhs: Probably just the change of the internal format
[10:56:39] <multichill>	 So you only get that once
[10:56:54] <Stryn>	 everyone asking the same :)
[10:57:09] <Jhs>	 hmm, yeah probably
[10:57:12] <Stryn>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Huge_diff_size
[10:57:21] <multichill>	 Undo the change and you'll see the end number of bytes is still much larger
[10:57:36] <Jhs>	 i've had lots of big changes, and assumed it was due to the serialization, but that one was extreme
[10:57:46] <multichill>	 or remove something from an item that hasn't been edited for a while, the size will increase
[10:57:47] <Jhs>	 but then that was probably because it has loads and loads of interwikis
[10:58:21] <multichill>	 Maybe set a sitenotice for a week
[10:58:22] <multichill>	 ?
[11:27:44] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/157495 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder)
[11:30:55] <benestar>	 JeroenDeDauw: do we already have some LabelLookup?
[11:34:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS6) 10Bene: Refactor ClaimsViewTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155060 
[11:38:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS7) 10Bene: Refactor ClaimsViewTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155060 
[11:42:41] <JeroenDeDauw>	 benestar: maybe in some big store interface, but probebly not something that is properly seggregated
[11:43:36] <benestar>	 JeroenDeDauw: I think you've been working on that? or was it DanielK_WMDE?
[11:47:20] <JeroenDeDauw>	 benestar: I have not, at least not in Wikibase.git
[11:47:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Refactor ClaimsViewTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155060 (owner: 10Bene)
[11:47:44] <JeroenDeDauw>	 benestar: if there is something like that already in the code or up for review, please link me to it
[11:48:09] * benestar searches
[11:48:41] <JeroenDeDauw>	 benestar: where do you need this?
[11:49:34] <benestar>	 JeroenDeDauw: everywhere I start crying when seeing an EntityInfoBuilder
[11:51:43] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS8) 10Bene: Refactor ClaimsViewTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155060 
[12:01:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Refactor ClaimsViewTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155060 (owner: 10Bene)
[12:02:12] <JeroenDeDauw>	 benestar: hah, you are not alone in that ;p
[12:03:21] <JeroenDeDauw>	 benestar: after we switched to DM 1.0, I want to have the repo, client and lib stuff split, and after that, we can move out thing such as the storage code from lib
[12:04:11] <JeroenDeDauw>	 benestar: A lot of which could go into https://github.com/wmde/WikibaseEntityStore , including an interface for looking up labels
[12:42:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS9) 10Bene: Refactor ClaimsViewTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155060 
[13:31:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Aude: Don't use SkinBuildSidebar hook for other projects feature [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/157500 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/70234) 
[13:36:44] <Amir1>	 Lydia_WMDE: hey, got my e-mail?
[14:01:02] <Amir1>	 @place
[14:01:07] <Amir1>	 !place
[14:01:07] <wm-bot3>	 that's a lovely place!
[14:16:52] <sjoerddebruin>	 o
[14:18:18] <JohnLewis>	 It's a terrible place.
[14:18:59] <sjoerddebruin>	 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hotel_Wikipedia :P
[15:03:57] <sjoerddebruin>	 Damn.
[15:50:30] <sjoerddebruin>	 :O
[16:25:49] <lazowik>	 o/
[19:16:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Bene: [C: 04-1] Don't use SkinBuildSidebar hook for other projects feature (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/157500 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/70234) (owner: 10Aude)
[19:35:15] <edward>	 how can i view the aliases for other languages?
[19:35:24] * edward can see them using the API, but not the user interface
[19:42:55] <Stryn>	 edward: go to your settings (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets) and choose "labelLister" gadget
[19:43:10] <Stryn>	 anyway, bed -->
[19:49:14] <edward>	 thanks
[20:02:40] <GerardM->	 edward there is a new labellister ... really well worht it
[20:02:59] <GerardM->	 http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2014/08/wikidata-beta-label-lister.html
[20:04:40] <edward>	 how do i activate this beta label lister?
[20:05:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 032] Remove use of deprecated Diff class aliases [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/157163 (owner: 10Addshore)
[20:07:05] <benestar|afk>	 edward: enable the gadget, there is a button to do so
[20:07:10] <benestar>	 Thiemo_WMDE: hey :)
[20:07:28] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 benestar: hey. your datamodel comment confuses me.
[20:08:14] <benestar>	 Thiemo_WMDE: well, just a crazy idea but I think items are very Wikidata specific
[20:08:21] <edward>	 benestar: thanks
[20:08:39] <benestar>	 we won't need them on either Commons or Wikiquote or Wiktionary
[20:08:48] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 what does this mean?
[20:09:09] <benestar>	 Thiemo_WMDE: that we may think about injecting Items to the code from outside
[20:09:21] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 why do you want to drop support for non-wikipedia sitelinks???
[20:09:40] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 thats what you suggest. doesnt make sense.
[20:09:49] <benestar>	 Thiemo_WMDE: I want to move support for any sitelinks out of the core Wikibase repo
[20:09:59] <benestar>	 and make it an optional extension
[20:10:44] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 i suggest we start thinking about the commons/media problem first before messing with existing solutions.
[20:10:54] <benestar>	 so basically Wikibase would only be the ground of software and you can choose whatever entity type you want by extending this ground
[20:11:30] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 yes. i see that. but sitelinks exist. why destroy them?
[20:11:39] <benestar>	 Thiemo_WMDE: destroy them?
[20:12:00] <benestar>	 in my opinion they are also statements but that's another question
[20:12:26] <benestar>	 anyway, this is just a crazy idea and probably won't happen anyway 
[20:12:28] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 i'm in the project for more than half a year now and one thing makes me more and more sad: we constantly reimplement existing things instead of creating new ones. yes, we are making things better. but we barely move forward.
[20:13:24] <benestar>	 Thiemo_WMDE: well, perhaps we are all a bit too ambitious to create the optimal code ;)
[20:13:45] <benestar>	 but you are often as well btw :P
[20:14:17] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Remove use of deprecated Diff class aliases [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/157163 (owner: 10Addshore)
[20:14:18] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 plus: sure, everything could be a statement. you could even implement references, ranks and everything else as basic property-value pairs (subject-predicate-object, RDF). thats totally possible. but thats not how wikibase should be.
[20:14:45] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 benestar: you are right, i'm part of this problem.
[20:15:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS10) 10Bene: Refactor ClaimsViewTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155060 
[20:15:38] <benestar>	 Thiemo_WMDE: so maybe you are now happy with https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/156044/
[20:15:47] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 what your idea means is: make things simpler and more powerful. problem is: it will not be simpler. it will be harder to use. way, way harder.
[20:16:23] <benestar>	 yeah, I see that point so forget about the sitelinks statement thing
[20:16:52] <benestar>	 but moving items out of wikibase and making the whole tool more flexible is worth it imo
[20:18:42] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/650451b : Translation updater bot The build is still failing. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/34050820
[20:20:59] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 benestar: can you explain why one of the tests is removed? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/156044/5/lib/tests/phpunit/ReferencedEntitiesFinderTest.php
[20:21:44] <benestar>	 Thiemo_WMDE: because the tested method does not longer exist
[20:22:34] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 the 2nd method was public? wtf?
[20:23:01] <benestar>	 Thiemo_WMDE: yes, that's what I also thought :P
[20:23:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 032] Refactor ReferencedEntitiesFinder [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/156044 (owner: 10Bene)
[20:25:14] <benestar>	 Thiemo_WMDE: and maybe also https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/155896/ ?
[20:30:55] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/c199834 : jenkins-bot The build was fixed. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/34051567
[20:31:05] <benestar>	 Thiemo_WMDE: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/155060/ that's easy to review ;)
[20:32:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Refactor ReferencedEntitiesFinder [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/156044 (owner: 10Bene)
[20:32:22] <benestar>	 and Thiemo_WMDE https://github.com/wmde/WikimediaBadges/pull/10 should be mergable, too
[20:32:48] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 04-1] Record usage of commons media files (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155896 (owner: 10Bene)
[20:43:42] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/ce977bf : jenkins-bot The build was broken. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/34052544
[20:52:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 031] "I like it." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155060 (owner: 10Bene)
[20:52:39] <benestar>	 Thiemo_WMDE: merge? ;)
[20:53:00] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 hm. in 24h when nobody complaints. :)
[20:53:12] <benestar>	 ok :O
[20:53:15] <benestar>	 * :)
[20:56:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS8) 10Bene: Record usage of commons media files [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155896 
[20:56:43] <benestar>	 Thiemo_WMDE: do you like that approach? --^
[20:56:52] <benestar>	 it uses no inheritance :)
[21:02:18] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Modernize SetClaimTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/157622 
[21:06:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Bene: [C: 04-1] Modernize SetClaimTest (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/157622 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[21:07:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Drop unused EntityRevisionSerializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/153766 
[21:10:57] <benestar>	 Thiemo_WMDE: "But if all tests succeed it should be, right?" xD
[21:11:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Bene: [C: 032] Use instanceof self [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/157344 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[21:12:12] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 031] Modernize SetClaimTest (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/157622 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[21:15:48] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Bene: [C: 031] "Waiting for jenkins" (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/157622 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[21:16:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Bene: [C: 032] Modernize SetClaimTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/157622 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[21:16:57] <benestar>	 Thiemo_WMDE: btw, I think Test only changes can be merged right away...
[21:17:28] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 sorry? what do you mean?
[21:17:45] <benestar>	 Thiemo_WMDE: changes which only affect Tests
[21:17:57] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 ?
[21:18:06] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 stehaufmschlauch.
[21:18:34] <benestar>	 Thiemo_WMDE: I think patches which only change how things are tested can be merged without waiting 24 hours
[21:19:01] <benestar>	 JeroenDeDauw also thinks that waiting so long is not that useful all the time
[21:19:03] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 its sunday. people should have a chance to see it. thats all.
[21:19:20] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 i dont do this all the time.
[21:19:33] <benestar>	 but who is interested in how the ClaimsView is tested?
[21:19:39] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 it also not urgent, right?
[21:19:43] <benestar>	 it wasn't actually tested before and now it is tested a bit
[21:20:36] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 sure. will merge. tomorrow. :)
[21:20:39] <benestar>	 Thiemo_WMDE: what means urgent? backports are urgent
[21:21:32] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 does this block something or somebody if its not merged today? thats what i ask. its sunday, its late, i dont want to make mistakes today.
[21:24:24] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Use instanceof self [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/157344 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[21:25:09] <benestar>	 Thiemo_WMDE: well, it's hard to explain but it blocks my mind in some way if there are unmerged patches ;)
[21:25:24] <benestar>	 but well, if you'll merge it tomorrow it makes no difference
[21:25:43] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Modernize SetClaimTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/157622 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[21:26:10] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 thats what i ask. do you want to continue working on this?
[21:28:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 032] "Oh well, let's unblock Bene's head then. ;-)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155060 (owner: 10Bene)
[21:38:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Refactor ClaimsViewTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155060 (owner: 10Bene)
[21:38:20] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/ba4bff1 : jenkins-bot The build is still failing. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/34055694
[21:44:35] <Krenair>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q821620 = https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1824104 ?
[21:45:05] <Krenair>	 Hm. Except dewiki has pages for both :/
[21:45:46] <Krenair>	 But the enwiki article (Berliner Liedertafel) looks to be about the idea in general, the same as the nlwiki (Liedertafel) article
[21:46:08] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/5c0ded2 : jenkins-bot The build was fixed. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/34055770
[21:47:08] <Krenair>	 Actually, the enwiki one - 1819 founded, but "Here the generation of young veterans of the World War I gathered, bringing their liberal and patriotic ideas." ?
[21:50:38] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikimediaBadges] 15thiemowmde 04deleted 06monobook at 140264a22: 02http://git.io/-rnPDA
[21:54:59] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 Krenair: it could be true that the english article "Berliner Liedertafel" describes the general concept. could be true that it should be split into two articles. on the other hand, why? you need an expert to do this.
[21:55:12] <Krenair>	 yes
[21:55:25] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 simply moving the article is probably wrong.
[21:55:44] <Krenair>	 I'm not going to move/merge any of this
[21:57:27] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/55c5ff5 : jenkins-bot The build was fixed. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/34056613
[21:57:45] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 just saying what i think. maybe i got your question wrong.