[01:15:29] * hoo waves
[01:20:05] * jeremyb waves hoo
[01:20:14] <Nachtwache>	 hello everyone!
[01:20:23] <hoo>	 hey jeremyb :)
[01:20:25] <hoo>	 and Nachtwache 
[01:20:50] <Nachtwache>	 I just wanted to register the same username at Wikidata, that I use at Wikipedia and Commons, buuut, already taken
[01:21:08] <Nachtwache>	 is there a way I can see a user page at Wikidata?
[01:21:11] <jeremyb>	 do a passwd reset?
[01:21:38] <Nachtwache>	 doesn't work, someone registered under my name, and didn't provide any email adress
[01:21:40] <jeremyb>	 User:Nachtwacht ?
[01:21:54] <Nachtwache>	 User:Polemon, actually, Nachtwache is just my IRC nickname
[01:22:25] <Nachtwache>	 http://enwp.org/User:Polemon <--- that's me
[01:22:40] <Nachtwache>	 thing is, it seems the username is taken on Wikidata
[01:22:48] <Nachtwache>	 which is kinda bothersome
[01:22:51] <jeremyb>	 you have an unmerged account...
[01:23:01] <Krenair>	 So you want that username on wikidata usurped by a bureaucrat?
[01:23:16] <Nachtwache>	 I thought about maybe contacting the person and ask if I can get that account
[01:23:27] <Nachtwache>	 but it seems the account is inactive or something
[01:23:48] <jeremyb>	 you should merge your account first
[01:23:54] <Nachtwache>	 how do I do that?
[01:24:04] <jeremyb>	 assuming most of the Polemons are you
[01:24:08] <Krenair>	 Special:MergeAccount
[01:25:22] <jeremyb>	 do we have graphs of unmerged over time?
[01:25:28] * jeremyb points to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/SUL_finalisation
[01:27:20] <Nachtwache>	 erm, for some reason, Wikipedia assumes my "home wiki" is de.wikipedia.org, where a user with the nick Polemon exists, but that's not me
[01:27:50] <Krenair>	 Then you don't own the global account.
[01:28:48] <Krenair>	 Nachtwache, hang on, where do you see that?
[01:29:14] <Nachtwache>	 when I go to Special:MergeAccount
[01:29:18] <Nachtwache>	 on enwp.org
[01:29:26] <Nachtwache>	 or en.wikipedia.org, which is the same thing
[01:30:47] <Nachtwache>	 once it asks me for my password, then it goes to a page saying I entered a wrong password for my "home wiki"
[01:31:38] <Nachtwache>	 so, is it just too late for me to create this global account, or how does it work?
[01:32:14] <Nachtwache>	 I mean, I've been a Wikipedia user for many years, I just never bothered to claim all accounts on every single Wiki there is...
[01:32:44] <Nachtwache>	 also, iirc, the account merging came many years after the inception of Wikipedia
[01:32:58] <hoo>	 It came in 2008, yes
[01:33:54] <Nachtwache>	 is there at least a way how I can check if I can still claim the global account thing?
[01:34:04] <Nachtwache>	 and how do I change the "home wiki" thing?
[01:38:49] <jeremyb>	 merging *is* the way to claim the global account
[01:39:32] <Nachtwache>	 well, it seems it doesn't work
[01:39:45] <jeremyb>	 the dewiki user probably wins because it has more edits than you
[01:40:00] <Nachtwache>	 huh ok
[01:40:28] <jeremyb>	 you're both so old that there's not even a date
[01:40:31] <jeremyb>	 https://tools.wmflabs.org/quentinv57-tools/tools/sulinfo.php?username=Polemon
[01:40:39] <Nachtwache>	 thanks?
[01:40:52] <jeremyb>	 heh
[01:41:07] <jeremyb>	 age and edit count are both criteria for picking a winner IIRC
[01:41:21] <jeremyb>	 you may want to talk to the dewiki user and find consensus :)
[01:41:23] <Nachtwache>	 I'm not sure if I'm much older though
[01:41:59] <Nachtwache>	 *sigh* I don't think I can convince an old user with that many edits to just relinquish his account for some other dude
[01:42:03] <jeremyb>	 the dewiki user does seem older
[01:42:22] <jeremyb>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/Polemon&dir=prev&target=Polemon&limit=10
[01:42:26] <jeremyb>	 https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/Polemon&dir=prev&target=Polemon&limit=10
[01:42:29] <Nachtwache>	 he hasn't merged his accounts, does he?
[01:42:41] <jeremyb>	 no, he hasn't
[01:42:58] <Nachtwache>	 hmm, ok, then it seems he just never cared about it either
[01:43:16] <Nachtwache>	 I just recently got interested again in editing after I've stumbled upon WikiData
[01:43:46] <Nachtwache>	 so I thought, I'll make an account, but it seems on one hand that account is already taken, on the other hand, the user has no Email adress
[01:44:24] <Nachtwache>	 I mean, I don't care too much about the dewiki user, he may keep his account and all's fine, I'd just like to have an account with "my" name on wikidata, that's all
[01:45:17] <jeremyb>	 you could ask a crat, see what they say
[01:48:04] <Nachtwache>	 which channel are they in? #wikimedia?
[01:48:15] <hoo>	 Nachtwache: Are you the enwiki Polemon?
[01:48:21] <Nachtwache>	 ye
[01:48:25] <hoo>	 and not the dewiki one
[01:48:34] <Nachtwache>	 s/$/s/
[01:48:39] <Nachtwache>	 yes
[01:48:48] <hoo>	 ok, in that case the dewiki one will "win" the global account over you
[01:49:04] <hoo>	 because it has more edit
[01:49:05] <hoo>	 s
[01:50:48] <Nachtwache>	 is it possible to migrate my account to a new (global) account?
[01:51:13] <hoo>	 sure, if you want to choose a new name
[01:51:22] <Nachtwache>	 as in, I'd create a new account that's also global, and then migrate my old edits, etc over?
[01:51:41] <Nachtwache>	 hoo: well, I guess that's the only viable way, isn't it...
[01:52:30] <jeremyb>	 Nachtwache, unless you convince the dewiki one that you should have it :)
[01:52:36] <hoo>	 Nachtwache: Yep
[01:52:45] <hoo>	 but ask to be renamed, don't just create a new account
[01:53:48] <Nachtwache>	 it seems the dewiki user has been inactive since 2005, hasn't he?
[01:54:32] <Nachtwache>	 oh wait the sorting was just reversed, nevermind
[01:54:47] <hoo>	 judging from the last edit, yes
[01:57:19] <jeremyb>	 your most recent edits are coincidentally both within a couple days of eachother. April this year
[02:00:46] <Nachtwache>	 so, the best course of action for me, is to have a bureaucrat transform my account into a global account with a new name, right?
[02:01:14] <jeremyb>	 no, a steward
[02:01:16] <jeremyb>	 i think
[02:01:27] <Nachtwache>	 oookaayy...
[02:01:34] <hoo>	 jeremyb: No, local renames still need to be done locally
[02:02:05] <Nachtwache>	 :S this is somehow getting pretty confusing; is there something I can do myself?
[02:02:45] <hoo>	 Nachtwache: Sure, give me a second to fiddle out the page
[02:03:15] <Nachtwache>	 because, well, I'd love to keep my old edits, but if it's just not gonna happen, oh well...
[02:03:25] <hoo>	 Nachtwache: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Changing_username/Simple
[02:03:30] <Nachtwache>	 I'd rather have a global account, and claim my old edits afterwards
[02:03:31] <hoo>	 request the rename to a new account there
[02:03:51] <hoo>	 and then you can create a global account for that new account (after the rename has been fulfilled)
[02:04:07] <hoo>	 that's not really possible
[02:04:14] <hoo>	 it is, but not really fun
[02:04:41] * hoo wonders whether an enwiki 'crat is around
[02:04:49] <hoo>	 addshore's not here
[02:05:37] <Nachtwache>	 *sigh* ok, seems this process is much more "complicated" as I thought.
[02:05:43] <jeremyb>	 mbisanz is on
[02:05:51] <jeremyb>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Changing_username/Simple&action=history
[02:07:25] <hoo>	 Nachtwache: Just request the rename and wait for a little bit
[02:07:29] <hoo>	 might be done in a few minutes
[02:07:35] <hoo>	 and then we can continue (hopefully)
[02:07:43] <Nachtwache>	 how can I check, if a desired username is not taken, for global use, that is?
[02:08:26] <jeremyb>	 good question? :)
[02:08:31] <Nachtwache>	 because I might have the problem, that I'll be stuck at the same kind of problem after getting another "widely used" name as "Polemon"
[02:08:56] <Nachtwache>	 also, just picking a new name, is easier said than done....
[02:09:05] <jeremyb>	 hah
[02:09:10] <hoo>	 Nachtwache: https://tools.wmflabs.org/quentinv57-tools/tools/sulinfo.php
[02:09:21] <hoo>	 if it says there are accounts with that name, step back
[02:09:36] <hoo>	 unless it's a wiki you *really* don't need an account now and it has no/ very few edits
[02:09:36] <Nachtwache>	 ok, thanks!
[02:09:42] <hoo>	 but better ask in edge cases
[02:09:45] * hoo is happy to help
[02:10:09] <jeremyb>	 hoo, but what if it doesn't exist in sulinfo but still turns out to be a conflict?
[02:10:30] <hoo>	 jeremyb: Then I'll wtf hard :P
[02:10:40] <jeremyb>	 i mean upper/lower case, etc
[02:10:47] <hoo>	 I see :S
[02:10:50] <hoo>	 Unlike
[02:11:41] <Nachtwache>	 https://tools.wmflabs.org/quentinv57-tools/tools/sulinfo.php?username=Int+80h <--- does that mean the account is registered?
[02:12:02] <Nachtwache>	 it comes up with a userid, but no edits, as far as I can tell
[02:12:18] <jeremyb>	 right
[02:12:18] <hoo>	 yep, it will conflict
[02:12:26] <Nachtwache>	 aw man...
[02:12:46] <hoo>	 it has 0 edits, I guess I could globally rename it away, if you want
[02:13:14] <hoo>	 brb
[02:13:38] <jeremyb>	 but that would take longer because you'd have to warn the user and allow a chance to respond
[02:14:04] <Nachtwache>	 pfff, ok, how can I check activity of that user again?
[02:14:16] <jeremyb>	 again?
[02:14:24] <hoo>	 jeremyb: For 0 edits, really?! :(
[02:14:33] <jeremyb>	 hoo, yes
[02:14:42] <Nachtwache>	 well, things like last loging or something
[02:14:54] <Nachtwache>	 I mean, so I can at least check if someone is actually using that
[02:15:03] <jeremyb>	 there's nothing to check AFAIK
[02:15:09] <jeremyb>	 last login is private data
[02:15:31] <jeremyb>	 you just leave them a note and wait a week
[02:15:33] <jeremyb>	 IIRC
[02:15:44] <hoo>	 yeah :S
[02:16:40] <Nachtwache>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&username=Int+80h&limit=1 <--- so there's no way to tell when they used their account the last time, etc...
[02:17:22] <hoo>	 Yep, server side I could probably make a (at least) better guess
[02:17:25] <Nachtwache>	 one last thing: usernames HAVE TO start with a capital letter, right?
[02:17:25] <hoo>	 but not gonna do that
[02:17:33] <hoo>	 ype, that's mandatory
[02:18:02] <Nachtwache>	 ok, well, then I'll ask for renaming and hopefully, nobody snatches that name under my feet
[02:18:42] <Nachtwache>	 also, once I got renamed, should I just start the account merging, or will this be done automatically?
[02:20:18] <Nachtwache>	 and do I need to rename all my accounts, those at Wikimedia, too?
[02:22:57] <jeremyb>	 Int 80h was unified (global account created) first half of 2013
[02:23:20] <jeremyb>	 you *should* rename any account that appears at sulinfo
[02:25:59] <Nachtwache>	 where do you see that there's been a global account created under that name?
[02:26:10] <Nachtwache>	 https://tools.wmflabs.org/quentinv57-tools/tools/sulinfo.php?username=Int+80h <---- can't find it here
[02:26:53] <jeremyb>	 well i looked in DB
[02:27:02] <jeremyb>	 but it's also listed at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Int_80h
[02:27:12] <jeremyb>	 > Registered: 2013-04-15T00:11:45 (16 months ago)
[02:28:25] <Nachtwache>	 *sigh*, ok, /assuming/ I'd like to claim that name, how do I go about that? That's an Usurpation, right?
[02:28:36] <jeremyb>	 yes
[02:29:35] <Nachtwache>	 ok, so first thing I do, I _create his talk page_ and put the {{subst:usurpr}} there
[02:29:44] <Nachtwache>	 and then I open the Usurpation request
[02:30:04] <Nachtwache>	 I have to create his talk page, because he doesn't have one
[02:30:13] <Nachtwache>	 utterly no edits whatsoever
[02:30:30] <Nachtwache>	 is that correct?
[02:31:47] <jeremyb>	 you do have to
[02:32:08] <jeremyb>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Changing_username/Usurpations#Instructions
[02:32:09] <Nachtwache>	 ok, then here we go
[02:42:08] <jeremyb>	 Wikipedia page Wikipedia:Changing username/Usurpations has been changed by Polemon
[02:44:12] <Nachtwache>	 Well, I tried to follow the instructions to the best of my abilities...
[02:44:31] <Nachtwache>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Int_80h <--- this guy now has the Usurpation request
[02:44:57] <Nachtwache>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Changing_username/Usurpations#Polemon_.E2.86.92_Int_80h <--- and this is my request
[02:45:07] <Nachtwache>	 any ideas how the whole process will last, etc?
[02:45:37] <jeremyb>	 at least 7 days? :)
[02:45:44] <Nachtwache>	 ah ok
[02:45:56] <Nachtwache>	 well, We'll see how things go, then
[02:46:13] <jeremyb>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=patrol&user=&page=User+talk%3AInt+80h&year=&month=-1&tagfilter=&hide_patrol_log=1&hide_review_log=1&hide_thanks_log=1
[02:50:39] <jeremyb>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5918543
[02:52:23] <Nachtwache>	 well, HCF would be to geeky...
[02:52:36] <Nachtwache>	 INT 80h is just fine as a geeky name...
[03:02:39] <Nachtwache>	 jeremyb: I assume you're a user of the first hour?
[03:02:49] <jeremyb>	 first?
[03:03:21] <Nachtwache>	 as in, you started editing shortly after it was invented, etc.
[03:03:48] <jeremyb>	 if shortly means nearly 5 years later then sure
[03:05:05] <Nachtwache>	 so, you started in 2006, then.
[03:06:12] <jeremyb>	 no
[03:06:23] <jeremyb>	 not sure if i edited before i created an account. probably not
[03:07:01] <Nachtwache>	 well, wikipedia started in 2001, iirc, five years later would be 2006
[03:07:13] <jeremyb>	 i said nearly
[03:07:25] <harej>	 five years, plus or minus one year
[03:07:34] <jeremyb>	 and an ear?
[03:08:07] <jeremyb>	 select user_registration from user where user_name='Jeremyb';
[03:08:07] <jeremyb>	 user_registration
[03:08:07] <jeremyb>	 20051222195817
[03:08:35] <Nachtwache>	 december 2005, fair enough
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[14:02:57] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/7752e8f : Aude The build was fixed. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/33361676
[14:05:00] <grrrit-wm1>	 (03PS1) 10Aude: Move EntityPermissionChecker to repo, as not used elsewhere [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155895 
[14:15:46] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/4b005da : Aude The build is still failing. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/33361760
[14:16:19] <grrrit-wm1>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155894 (owner: 10Aude)
[14:21:15] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/646d8df : Aude The build is still failing. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/33361817
[14:24:57] <grrrit-wm1>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155895 (owner: 10Aude)
[14:36:03] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/c44efd0 : Aude The build was fixed. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/33361859
[14:36:11] <grrrit-wm1>	 (03PS1) 10Bene: Record usage of commons media files [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155896 
[14:37:42] <grrrit-wm1>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Sort imports in WikibaseRepo class [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155894 (owner: 10Aude)
[14:37:50] <grrrit-wm1>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Move EntityPermissionChecker to repo, as not used elsewhere [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155895 (owner: 10Aude)
[14:41:22] <grrrit-wm1>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "entityviewplus (TM)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155737 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[14:41:49] <grrrit-wm1>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Move EntityTitleLookup into Wikibase\Lib\Store namespace [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/154982 (owner: 10Aude)
[14:42:05] <grrrit-wm1>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "Needs rebase" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/154982 (owner: 10Aude)
[14:49:39] <grrrit-wm1>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155896 (owner: 10Bene)
[15:08:58] <magioladitis>	 There is a bot request in English wikipedia concerning Wikidata https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Dexbot_2
[15:09:16] <magioladitis>	 Feedback would be appreciated
[15:10:07] <magioladitis>	 It's about {{Link GA}} template
[15:18:54] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/bd9299b : Jeroen De Dauw The build was broken. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/33364476
[16:13:41] <UAwiki>	 hello, what word would you use as a synonym for "snak"?
[16:13:53] <UAwiki>	 I'm reading https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Glossary
[16:14:06] <UAwiki>	 but why did you choose that word? hehehe
[16:14:31] <UAwiki>	 is it an informatic word?
[16:22:06] <multichill>	 sjoerddebruin: Rijksmonumenten aan het afmaken
[16:43:14] <sjoerddebruin>	 multichill: Moordenaar! :P
[16:43:32] <multichill>	 Ja, werd tijd
[16:43:50] <sjoerddebruin>	 En dan de categorie op nlwiki uitpluizen?
[16:44:37] <sjoerddebruin>	 Misschien kun je hier nog je mening achterlaten: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg:Standbeelden_van_Willem_van_Oranje_in_Den_Haag
[16:45:26] <multichill>	 Gemeenschappelijk kan best, maar dat is wel even puzzelen om het netjes te krijgen op Wikidata
[16:45:46] <multichill>	 Oh, dat is al gedaan zie ik.
[16:45:57] <multichill>	 Door ons :P
[16:46:17] <sjoerddebruin>	 Ja, maar je krijgt hem nu niet uit de onderhoudscategorie.
[17:12:44] <GerardM->	 mult
[17:12:54] <sjoerddebruin>	 gera
[17:13:10] <GerardM->	 multichill have you read about the diff report by Amir ?
[17:13:18] <GerardM->	 and sjoerddebruin 
[17:13:26] <sjoerddebruin>	 Link?
[17:13:34] <multichill>	 GerardM-: nee? link?
[17:14:02] <GerardM->	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:PC#Report_on_differences_between_birth_dates_and_Wikidata
[17:14:16] <GerardM->	 what I just thought of
[17:14:21] <sjoerddebruin>	 Oh, that one.
[17:14:36] <GerardM->	 when a value has differences why not give it a qualifier ?
[17:15:01] <multichill>	 No, you should source it
[17:15:18] <multichill>	 Source A says: Monday, source B Tuesday, etc
[17:16:02] <GerardM->	 actually we would have a report for them as well
[17:16:15] <GerardM->	 it could point to the report
[17:16:20] <grrrit-wm1>	 (03PS6) 10Aude: Move EntityTitleLookup into Wikibase\Lib\Store namespace [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/154982 
[17:16:22] <grrrit-wm1>	 (03PS1) 10Aude: Move EntityPermissionChecker and EntityContentFactory into namespaces [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155904 
[17:16:57] <GerardM->	 the point of the qualifier is: it is possibly wrong
[17:17:10] <GerardM->	 removing it would mean ... fixed
[17:18:29] <sjoerddebruin>	 If it's possible wrong, don't add it.
[17:18:51] <GerardM->	 no a value exists and IT is possibly wrong
[17:19:20] <GerardM->	 because their are differences in the report
[17:21:05] <GerardM->	 adding data that is known to be problematic is problematic in its own right
[17:21:29] <GerardM->	 eg I am adding a date of birth of 1922
[17:21:48] <GerardM->	 nothing wrong except later it may be found to be 4-5-1922
[17:22:10] <GerardM->	 that is when you add the qualifier when it is noted by a bot
[17:22:25] <sjoerddebruin>	 Why would we need qualifiers for that?
[17:24:00] <GerardM->	 the point of the qualifier is that it indicates that the data is possibly wrong
[17:24:11] <GerardM->	 it raises confidence in other data
[17:26:32] <grrrit-wm1>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Replace assert() with actual PHPUnit assertions [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155248 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[17:28:18] <grrrit-wm1>	 (03PS2) 10Aude: Improve code readability in EntityContent and related [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155006 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[17:38:44] <grrrit-wm1>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/154982 (owner: 10Aude)
[17:41:54] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/c0fe2d3 : Aude The build is still failing. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/33372735
[17:48:08] <grrrit-wm1>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155904 (owner: 10Aude)
[17:54:11] <MJ94>	 Hi, all. It's been a while.
[17:57:15] <grrrit-wm1>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155006 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[18:04:41] <grrrit-wm1>	 (03PS2) 10Aude: Move EntityPermissionChecker and EntityContentFactory into namespaces [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155904 
[18:05:08] <grrrit-wm1>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] "overall, this is improvement" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155006 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[18:10:23] <benestar|afk>	 JeroenDeDauw: hi :)
[18:11:22] <benestar|afk>	 JeroenDeDauw: can you merge https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/154322 ?
[18:14:33] <magioladitis>	 There is a bot request in English wikipedia concerning Wikidata https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Dexbot_2
[18:14:44] <magioladitis>	 It's about {{Link GA}} template
[18:14:45] <magioladitis>	 Feedback would be appreciated
[18:15:00] <grrrit-wm1>	 (03PS2) 10Bene: Use DataModel 0.9.x [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/154339 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[18:15:32] <magioladitis>	 Does this mean we ca completely remove {{Link FA}} templates?
[18:15:38] <rschen7754|away>	 magioladitis: this is pretty well-known and will be happening across all wikipedias
[18:15:49] <rschen7754|away>	 starting tuesday they can be removed
[18:16:00] <magioladitis>	 rschen7754|away: So we can run a bot to remove all??
[18:16:05] <rschen7754|away>	 yep
[18:17:10] <rschen7754|away>	 benestar|afk: badges go live to wikipedias tuesday, right? (not thursday?)
[18:17:50] <sjoerddebruin>	 Yes.
[18:17:54] <magioladitis>	 Link FA: 13057 transclusion(s) found.
[18:18:14] <magioladitis>	 Link GA: 16695 transclusion(s) found.
[18:18:29] <magioladitis>	 OK. So ~30,000 edits
[18:18:35] <rschen7754|away>	 ah, ok... because the usual cycle is everything else tuesday and wikipedia thursday
[18:19:23] <rschen7754|away>	 magioladitis: just like the interwiki links, the GA/FA status for other wikis will now be stored on wikidata
[18:19:53] <magioladitis>	 rschen7754|away: OK! thanks
[18:20:17] <JohnLewis>	 rschen7754|away: yeah next Tuesday with 'in other projects' beta feature and a new special page
[18:20:44] <rschen7754|away>	 oh, ok
[18:20:56] <magioladitis>	 This means we can start removing them right away starting from Friday next week?
[18:21:20] <JohnLewis>	 magioladitis: next Wednesday if community want
[18:21:23] <magioladitis>	 OK
[18:21:34] <rschen7754|away>	 yeah, apparently we're deploying it all tuesday
[18:21:40] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/fbf2753 : Thiemo Mättig The build is still failing. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/33374573
[18:22:04] <grrrit-wm1>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155904 (owner: 10Aude)
[18:22:11] <magioladitis>	 The same holds for other wikis too?
[18:22:16] <magioladitis>	 The greek wiki for instance?
[18:22:25] <rschen7754|away>	 yes
[18:22:32] <magioladitis>	 that's good news
[18:23:27] <JohnLewis>	 rschen7754|away: it is next Tuesday as it is a Wikidata deployment to our project not Wikipedias :)
[18:23:36] <rschen7754|away>	 ah, ok
[18:23:39] <JohnLewis>	 It is enabling the reading of them
[18:23:46] <sjoerddebruin>	 And upgrades for the entity suggester. <3
[18:23:47] <rschen7754|away>	 but "in other projects" would be tuesday/thurday
[18:23:58] <JohnLewis>	 It is Tuesday
[18:24:13] <JohnLewis>	 as beta features is a config change not extension change
[18:24:19] <rschen7754|away>	 oh
[18:24:28] <magioladitis>	 OK. Friday is a good day to run the bot anyway :) +/-2 days not that imporant
[18:24:52] <magioladitis>	 This will help me simplify AWB's code too
[18:25:13] <magioladitis>	 I had a huge list for the name of these templates in every language
[18:27:54] <rschen7754|away>	 btw, did we ever figure out how the JS would be changed on dewiki?
[18:28:27] <JohnLewis>	 Easy
[18:28:41] <JohnLewis>	 I can just poke James to do it :p
[18:29:13] <rschen7754|away>	 ok
[18:29:38] <JohnLewis>	 sysops may be able to edit it anyway
[18:30:33] <grrrit-wm1>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/154339 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[18:30:34] <JohnLewis>	 Erik wants to remove it within 30 days if the community agree to not do what they did before
[19:50:13] <benestar|afk>	 Lydia_WMDE: when do you plan to deploy badges on non wikipedia wikis?
[19:51:32] <JohnLewis>	 benestar|afk: the wording on the calendar is 'clients' so all clients I assume next Tuesday
[19:52:12] <benestar|afk>	 o.O
[19:52:26] <benestar|afk>	 hmm, so I also have to fix the sister projects this weekend
[19:54:41] <GerardM->	 do we have someone who knows Korean in our community ?
[19:55:11] <JohnLewis>	 yes but because they are Korean; they're not here now.
[20:15:59] <grrrit-wm1>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155998 (owner: 10L10n-bot)
[20:17:36] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/e584fda : Translation updater bot The build is still failing. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/33380941
[20:49:58] <JohnLewis>	 JeroenDeDauw: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Nyan_Dog :o
[20:50:46] <lazowik>	 eeee
[20:50:47] <lazowik>	 no?