[00:00:05] (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 04-1] Get label of badge in SiteLinksView (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/149865 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/68183) (owner: 10Bene) [00:00:57] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/145281 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [00:02:19] (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 04-1] "Ok with the idea, but the implementation is incomplete (a lot of places still need to be updated). Also JavaScript." (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150026 (owner: 10Bene) [00:08:33] (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] "Good enough for now." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/149870 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/67923) (owner: 10Bene) [00:08:42] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Show label of badges in Special:SetSiteLink [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/149870 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/67923) (owner: 10Bene) [07:41:01] good morning [07:41:34] Hoi GerardM- [07:45:28] I have a situation with Autolist2 I do not understand [07:45:30] http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/autolist2.php?language=en&project=wikipedia&category=Officers%20of%20the%20Order%20of%20Canada&depth=0&wdq=CLAIM%5B31%3A5%5D%20and%20noclaim%5B166%3A15278116%5D&mode=undefined&statementlist=166%3A15278116&run=Run&label_contains=&label_contains_not=&chunk_size=10000 [07:46:05] with WDQ and does show people who are already officer of the order of Canada [08:41:06] Thiemo_WMDE: Could you please have a look at https://github.com/wmde/ValueView/pull/92 [08:41:13] We want to backport that today [08:46:42] (03Abandoned) 10Addshore: New Wikidata Build - 27/07/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/149619 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder) [08:59:21] * aude waves [09:00:01] :D [09:00:05] hey aude :) [09:00:46] * hoo made a smallish list of stuff he wants to deploy today [09:01:09] sounds good [09:01:34] hoo: yeah, you should be able to create new repos yourself [09:01:36] ValueView bug fix, special sitelink group support and Lua arbitrary access [09:01:49] Did I miss anything? [09:02:13] hoo: would be great if you could keep working on the API JS stuff the next sprint. then we'll keep it [09:02:24] Oh, and the two configuration changes: Make ruwiki use our other projects links and testwikidata use special sitelink group [09:02:38] aude: hoo: what will happen during deployment today? [09:02:55] Tobi_WMDE_SWE: Next sprint? My current contract ends Thurday :S [09:03:30] I worked on it a bit yesterday, but there are gadgets blocking our changes [09:03:58] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/145281 [09:04:27] ToAruShiroiNeko: Deployment as listed above: We have a few feature backports, but fixes and configuration changes [09:04:34] * Tobi_WMDE_SWE [09:04:53] heh [09:04:54] 6 changes (Lua stuff are two because of integration tests) [09:05:04] I <3 your backports [09:05:07] :p [09:05:13] hoo: ok. :D [09:05:17] yeah, missed that [09:05:32] then, let's just see how far you get [09:05:42] we'll keep it on the sprint then [09:06:06] If I get someone to help around a little I guess I can get it done (or at least prepare the new repo etc.) [09:06:15] hoo: ok [09:06:33] * aude wants to work on hhvm, as well as keep other things that are in doing [09:07:03] won't have alot of time outside of hackathon and during / afer wikimania [09:07:30] aude: beta Wikidata 503s on item pages [09:07:36] but I think I told you that before [09:07:58] still broken? [09:08:08] http://wikidata.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Q11246 [09:08:18] not sure it is now, but was a few days back [09:08:42] thought it might also be dns [09:08:47] mh... looks like it's entirely unaccessible now [09:08:49] wtf [09:08:53] could be [09:09:07] times out for me now... no 503 wikimedia error message thing [09:09:34] that's what i got on saturday [09:09:50] same thing http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/ and ones that don't have wikibase [09:10:15] ok :S [09:10:29] Last time I checked wikitext pages were loading, but item ones were screwed [09:10:34] en.wiktionary.beta.wmflabs.org/ [09:10:36] that's all I can tell [09:10:45] did not look into it [09:11:18] probably for bryan + ori (maybe ha.shar) to look into [09:11:34] I wonder why they decided to move over beta... it's useless for real staging now [09:11:50] * aude trys proxying [09:18:57] not convinced traceroute goes though from the uk [09:19:01] does from the us [09:19:06] maybe we should have a RepoApi factory? [09:19:06] proxying however does not help [09:19:17] when trying to load one of the beta sites [09:19:20] I don't like pushing so much logic up the stack [09:19:23] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/145281/5/client/resources/wikibase.client.linkitem.init.js [09:19:28] especially for gadgets that's bad [09:19:46] hmmmm, maybe [09:20:07] * hoo wishes he could talk to Adrian about that [09:21:14] a lot of settings and things [09:22:17] yeah [09:22:31] at least the cors logic can be simpler now [09:22:41] seems like jquery got smarter [09:23:01] so that we can give it wrong options and it will still do the right thing [09:23:10] or amybe the browsers got smarter, mh [09:23:47] * aude unproxies and tries to visit wikidata [09:23:55] aude: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68029 what is the status here? [09:24:15] I assume this is blocking the switch to the new serialization format [09:24:38] no [09:24:42] why should it? [09:25:04] blames Lydia_WMDE [09:25:04] Tobi_WMDE_SWE: per hoo [09:25:16] 1) it should be done by branch time [09:25:18] 2) they have lua [09:25:34] but giving them lua without the parser function would be weird no? [09:25:36] which is what they really need to replace the current approach [09:25:53] Lydia_WMDE: well [09:26:06] it's only testwikidata for now [09:26:32] I already had arbitrary access for the parser functions, but since then the code totally changed [09:26:39] (mine wasn't nice anyway) [09:26:42] arbitrary access is simple [09:26:58] the hard part is not piling on more technical debt + tests + language fallback [09:27:04] almost done :) [09:27:38] aude: ok. would it not make sense to link those changes to the bug [09:27:54] if you want to do that [09:28:02] aude: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67988 wontfix? [09:28:41] aude: don't know [09:29:10] I was thinking there are no patches yet because I did not see any in the bug [09:29:31] hoo: not sure how to fix [09:29:33] so, not sure what to review to bring that topic forward [09:30:07] aude: We *could* only allow them to disable variants using a switch [09:30:44] aude: DanielK_WMDE__: can you remind me how we wanted to split up the deployment of the serialisation switch? i remember we wanted to do it in two steps but i forgot which exactly those were [09:31:17] Lydia_WMDE: test.wikidata then wikidata? [09:31:43] hoo: could work [09:32:21] aude: hmm no i remember we wanted to switch off one way and then the other [09:32:26] ok... amend the bug then? [09:32:32] being able to read the new format and then storing it? [09:32:39] * hoo is not really a fan of adding more logic to the parser functions... [09:34:54] hoo: agree, unless it's simple enough [09:35:27] Lydia_WMDE: ask daniel [09:35:39] ok [09:35:52] * aude confused [09:36:47] DanielK_WMDE__: did I understand you correctly yesterday, there are no blockers left for a rollout of a first version of redirects? [09:37:00] (03PS6) 10Henning Snater: Inject config into RepoApi [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/145281 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [09:37:06] aude: Remember the guy we talked about in the WMDE floor on Wednesday(?) [09:37:07] so, if i visit wikidata from the uk, i get american english? [09:37:26] hoo: confusing me even more [09:37:33] hey :) [09:37:38] hoo: reviewed? :p [09:37:48] aude: heh... I just got his thank you note :) [09:37:57] lazowik: No, not yet [09:38:04] Lydia_WMDE: Can you poke Thiemo? [09:38:17] hoo: he is not in the office yet. was ill yesterday [09:38:26] Ah, I see :( [09:38:37] hoo: nah, I meant did you review it :p [09:38:53] hoo: ah yes [09:39:02] ya know, the pre-sleep hoo's patch [09:39:09] when making a new account on wikidata, in private mode, i get american englsh [09:39:18] Oh yes, I had another look... makes sense, also performance wise :D [09:39:18] i don't see where/how people get uk english [09:39:26] by default [09:39:37] hoo: aude: in other projects sidebar ready for deployment? [09:39:40] aude: Logged out it asks you for the variant I think [09:39:45] Lydia_WMDE: Beta feature? [09:39:53] Or the ruwiki thing? [09:39:58] Actually both yes [09:40:07] hoo: sweet [09:40:17] * aude gets no suggestion to use uk english [09:40:38] not proxying [09:40:40] hoo: aude: can we figure out a deploy date for it? [09:40:51] so i can announce [09:40:52] aude: What en do you have in your browser settings? [09:40:56] Lydia_WMDE: Sure [09:41:03] shall I put it into today's backport already? [09:41:04] aude: maybe your browser does not suggest it? [09:41:08] (Wont turn on per default) [09:41:24] hoo: that's why :) [09:41:30] heh :) [09:41:32] hoo: then the beta feature isn't available yet to users? [09:41:44] somehow i have irish also as a preference [09:41:48] Lydia_WMDE: No, it's hidden behind a setting [09:41:58] that's why uls always recommends it [09:42:04] More languages -> easier tracking [09:42:05] :S [09:42:12] hoo: ok then i'd say let's deploy and enable in the deployment after 19th? [09:42:14] That's why I only have en these days AFAIR [09:42:27] Lydia_WMDE: Everything on the 19th? [09:42:36] But ok, I'll add it to my list [09:42:39] hoo: no that's why after the 19th ;-) [09:42:42] but it now suggests spanish [09:42:46] woops :P [09:42:48] :P [09:43:06] now irish [09:43:07] hoo: when would the next one be after that? doesn't have to be in the regular wikidata deploy imho [09:43:21] one week after 19th? [09:43:36] Lydia_WMDE: 26th, yes [09:43:43] Tuesday's are good [09:43:51] hoo: ok sweet. i will add to calendar and do announcement [09:43:53] we should avoid confusing people by deploying on various days [09:44:00] :) [09:44:04] k [09:45:11] hoo: i am losing overview -.- need to add more to calendar. what will go live on 19th? then i will add it. so far i have: [09:45:13] * redirects [09:45:18] * badges [09:45:42] * wikinews [09:45:43] * special site link group [09:45:53] * all of the things [09:46:01] lazowik: Not yet :D [09:46:03] :D [09:46:08] that's 2 weeks later lazowik [09:46:11] ah [09:46:11] ok [09:46:38] hoo: ok all added to google calendar [09:47:07] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "As per hoo: do we know that this is all that is needed to make badges work outside experimental mode?" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150026 (owner: 10Bene) [09:47:50] hoo: also enabling sitelinks to wikidata pages also? [09:48:02] Not yet, I think [09:48:03] aude: ? [09:48:16] doesn't make much sense without client... will be confusing, I think [09:48:28] ok [09:48:32] i agree [09:49:30] Lydia_WMDE: Is Henning in today? If so, can you ask him to join here? [09:49:38] hoo: he is. i will [09:49:43] * hoo would like to discuss whether we want a RepoApiFactor [09:49:46] y [09:50:36] hoo: ok i added everything i know of for the next month to the google calendar. would be good if you/aude can double check [09:50:39] it's a Henning_WMDE :) [09:51:13] Lydia_WMDE: "deploy in other projects sidebar" -> "deploy in other projects sidebar beta feature" [09:51:27] but I think that's it [09:51:31] Henning_WMDE: hey [09:51:34] ok cool [09:51:46] hi [09:51:48] Lydia_WMDE: daily? [09:51:57] DanielK_WMDE__: on our way :) [09:52:02] Henning_WMDE: You saw Adrians inject stuff into RepoApi thing? [09:52:08] DanielK_WMDE__: minute [09:52:14] oh daily? [09:52:31] hoo: Yes, just amended it. [09:52:45] Henning_WMDE: I think we might want a RepoApi factory [09:52:51] to not have so much logic in the callers [09:52:56] especially for client usage [09:53:14] poof there goes airport WiFi [09:53:51] :P [09:54:29] tried clearing cookies, and other workarounds [09:54:35] I guess you are right. The structure looks a bit odd now, though it's okay for the first step... not sure what Adrian had planned... [09:54:44] They got smarter [09:55:03] audephone2: Change your MAC address, works all the time ;) [09:55:10] Henning_WMDE: Well, we have a few gadgets use it [09:55:15] I don't want them to have all that logic [09:55:21] I did [09:56:20] that's weird [09:56:30] do you need to login by browser? [09:56:42] Used to work [09:57:00] * hoo used to have an iodine server for such cases [09:57:11] (that's a dns proxy which can tunnel ssh over dns) [09:58:09] not that desperate [09:58:17] heh [09:58:31] it's painful slow anyway, unless you ahve very badly set up DNS servers [09:58:41] can tether but not very good [09:58:48] hoo: Yes, that's true... I would not like that either as Gadget developer. We probably want to block merging Adrian's change until we have a subsequent change... [09:59:11] Henning_WMDE: Ok, will note in the change [09:59:26] ok [09:59:57] (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 04-1] "We decided that we don't want an easy to use RepoApiFactory (especially for gadgets). Until we have that, please don't merge this." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/145281 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [10:00:03] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 04-1] "A lot of small things to do. Don't get me wrong. I'm looking forward to merge this soon. Good work so far." (0312 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/149877 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64776) (owner: 10JanZerebecki) [10:00:11] Henning_WMDE: https://github.com/wmde/ValueView/pull/92 [10:00:20] please take a look [10:00:25] would like to backport that later today [10:01:50] oh... yeah... saw that a couple of minutes ago; will have a look. https://github.com/wmde/DataValuesJavascript/pull/43 is cute as well... I might have to rage into the open. ;) [10:01:55] it's Thiemo_WMDE ! [10:02:25] eeee [10:02:34] hoo: "We decided that we *don't want* (?) an easy to use RepoApiFactory" [10:02:59] lazowik: Doh :D [10:03:01] Good spot [10:03:16] (03CR) 10Hoo man: "Of course we do want an easy to use factory" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/145281 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [10:04:55] Henning_WMDE: That PR is not really open... it's blocked by phantomjs [10:04:59] also it needs a rebase [10:05:12] doubt that will be mergeable soonish [10:06:17] (03PS1) 10WikidataBuilder: New Wikidata Build - 29/07/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150173 [10:06:43] DanielK_WMDE__: :S that was consensus... but I kind of agree that removing the scripts is bad [10:08:05] Care to open a bug so that we can find a way forward? [10:08:17] audephone2: ^ About the populate sites table stuffs [10:09:31] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] New Wikidata Build - 29/07/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150173 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder) [10:10:13] hoo: It is more like, for such basic functionality, I do not understand why all the tests have been removed in https://github.com/wmde/DataValuesJavascript/pull/45. If there is a problem with PhantomJS, find a way to skip the tests (still, they can be run manually). But then again, intending to do a change to such very basic functionality and have not tests... [10:11:03] Henning_WMDE: No, phantomjs wont be able to run any tests then [10:11:12] as it all breaks apart if that function doesn't work [10:11:34] (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] "per Thiemo's and Jeroen's comments" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/149237 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [10:11:44] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: DM 1.0 compat: do not use Entity::toArray [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/149237 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [10:14:42] hoo maybe own little extension for sites populate? [10:15:18] hoo: No problem with altering the function but with removing tests/lib/util/util.inherit.tests.js as to https://github.com/wmde/DataValuesJavascript/pull/45/files [10:15:33] audephone2: not sure that's much better than having it in WikimediaMaintenance [10:15:37] Has to be easy for users to install [10:15:54] if we want that, it should be in core [10:15:56] We can include via composrr [10:15:59] in one way or anyother [10:16:06] core ok also [10:16:08] * another [10:17:09] just don't like additional step for setting up wikibase [10:17:35] Wikimedia maintenance was good idea until I thought more [10:17:49] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-1] "As it is now, this change adds caching ad a little polishing." (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148672 (owner: 10Aude) [10:18:35] aude: How does core handle the interwiki table thing? [10:18:43] we should probably do it like that [10:18:46] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150173 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder) [10:20:14] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "*poke* I think completely removing the property name resolution from the renderer would be helpful. Are there reasons not to do that? I th" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148125 (owner: 10Aude) [10:22:55] Why is Daniel not on irc [10:23:08] he is [10:23:36] Oh [10:25:15] DanielK_WMDE__: I am not working on parser functions for the next week [10:25:28] that's awry [10:25:58] Not working at all [10:26:16] maybe get to it at hackathon [10:28:06] <6A4AALA5S> [13ValueView] 15snaterlicious 04deleted 06suggesterCloseValue at 140f55f3b: 02http://git.io/sH3w1Q [10:28:07] <7GHAAE9XX> [13ValueView] 15snaterlicious pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/H1J38g [10:28:07] <7GHAAE9XX> 13ValueView/06master 14d01c4b2 15snaterlicious: Merge pull request #92 from wmde/suggesterCloseValue... [10:28:20] thanks, Henning_WMDE [10:28:39] Is there anything else in ValueView we want? If not, I'm going to make a new release later on [10:28:47] I don't know any point in amending and rebasing [10:29:01] or just make new patches the way Daniel wants [10:29:02] mh? [10:29:09] oh, mh [10:29:23] if someone wants to do that before I can [10:35:12] * audephone2 off [10:46:28] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Add title by item special page. (036 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/149877 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64776) (owner: 10JanZerebecki) [10:52:25] (03PS2) 10Hoo man: Name module "init" instead of "__namespace" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/146185 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [11:11:19] Henning_WMDE: here? [11:14:48] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "I agree with Thiemo: pretty good, but several nitpicks." (0314 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/149877 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64776) (owner: 10JanZerebecki) [11:26:07] DanielK_WMDE__: Got a moment to sanity check two configuration changes? [11:26:18] not urgent, deploy is hours away still [11:26:26] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150187 [11:26:26] and follow-up [11:30:42] Lydia_WMDE: did you see my photo? [11:30:55] she's having lunch [11:35:28] benestar: the one with the animated cat? I saw it! [11:35:40] animated cat? [11:35:43] * hoo wants a link [11:35:46] * demands [11:35:53] hoo: here, a nice link for you! https://github.com/wmde/WikibaseQueryEngine/pull/92 [11:36:01] hoo: you'll get the animated cat after merging [11:37:03] * hoo code reviews [11:37:06] for cats :D [11:43:28] hoo: "member var name"?? [11:43:32] Do you mean the field name? [11:43:40] private $importerBuilder; [11:43:41] yeah :P [11:43:46] What is wrong with that? [11:44:04] I'm stupid, that's waht's wrong with it [11:44:06] * hoo hides [11:44:10] The thing it builds is also assigned to a $importer [11:44:17] Rather than an $entitiesImporter [11:44:35] mh [11:44:42] Fixed the param name [11:45:03] :) [11:45:16] did you manually test it? [11:45:23] If it works, I can approve [11:47:14] hoo: tests passed [11:49:04] I would like to see that manually tested [11:49:27] hoo: because automation is evil? ;p [11:49:37] I did test this by running the CLI command [11:49:54] ok [11:50:10] And once this is merged I will rage demo it to colleagues [11:50:17] :) [11:50:26] now show me the cat :D [11:51:33] hoo: would be cool if you could check the Wikibase Query CI. For some reason the setup there broke, and I don't get why it did. https://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseQuery/builds [11:51:38] hoo: sure. https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/146040/2870611/d3771da8-d2d2-11e3-8477-3d023a1f2d2d.gif [11:52:07] hoo: have you seen the test runner cat yet? https://github.com/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/pull/80 [11:52:36] never manually ran the tests on master :D [11:52:40] But I guess I need to do that [11:52:45] <21WAAVOS0> [13WikibaseQuery] 15JeroenDeDauw 04deleted 06commandoptions at 14f5f1840: 02http://git.io/moTDiw [11:52:46] <7GHAAFAZC> [13WikibaseQuery] 15JeroenDeDauw pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/sN8KlQ [11:52:46] <7GHAAFAZC> 13WikibaseQuery/06master 14e43873a 15Jeroen De Dauw: Merge pull request #44 from wmde/commandoptions... [11:53:12] [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseQueryEngine/consolever/e1383f9 : jeroendedauw The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseQueryEngine/builds/31131635 [11:53:38] I'll have a look at the tests later on [11:53:41] seems werid [11:53:42] * weird [11:57:00] [13ValueView] 15mariushoch pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/c3Ceuw [11:57:00] 13ValueView/06master 1444ca1b3 15Marius Hoch: Update version and release notes for 0.6.8 [11:58:24] [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseQuery/master/e43873a : Jeroen De Dauw The build is still failing. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseQuery/builds/31132011 [12:00:40] [13ValueView] 15mariushoch tagged 060.6.8 at 06master: 02http://git.io/3bmpQA [12:10:58] (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Fix handling of the specialSiteLinkGroups setting [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150195 [12:14:42] (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Lua: Allow arbitrary item access [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150196 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/67538) [12:17:53] benestar: got it. thanks! :P [12:20:51] (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Adds a beta feature for "Other project" sidebar [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150197 [12:35:58] Tobi_WMDE_SWE: There's one job stuck in gerrit [12:36:01] can you kick it? [12:36:04] * wdjenkins [12:36:14] blocks backports [12:44:51] Lydia_WMDE: Can you kick tobi? :P [12:49:02] (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Add UnDeserializableValue to DataModelSerializationRoundtripTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150202 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66839) [12:51:09] hoo: ok, will have a look in a minute [12:52:38] [travis-ci] mariushoch/WikibaseQuery/master/ed6edaf : Marius Hoch The build failed. http://travis-ci.org/mariushoch/WikibaseQuery/builds/31136092 [12:53:01] hoo: is it planned or do you think it's ok to make Wikidata its own client on production on August 19th? [12:54:21] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/145281 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [12:54:32] It's not planned yet, as far as I'm aware [12:54:50] would it be possible? [12:55:21] it will be a feature incomplete, but yes [12:55:41] what would be missing? [12:55:45] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Add UnDeserializableValue to DataModelSerializationRoundtripTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150202 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66839) (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [12:55:50] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add UnDeserializableValue to DataModelSerializationRoundtripTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150202 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66839) (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [12:56:15] Tobi_WMDE_SWE: Arbitrary access for the parser functions [12:56:21] I've killed and retriggered the job btw [12:56:25] that's the only thing I can remember offhand [12:56:27] hoo: ok [12:56:33] [travis-ci] mariushoch/WikibaseQuery/master/a549428 : Marius Hoch The build was fixed. http://travis-ci.org/mariushoch/WikibaseQuery/builds/31136301 [12:57:59] [13WikibaseQuery] 15mariushoch pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/hIHRig [12:57:59] 13WikibaseQuery/06master 142847a02 15Marius Hoch: Fix travis installation (via composer) [12:59:25] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/146185 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [13:00:45] [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseQuery/master/2847a02 : Marius Hoch The build was fixed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseQuery/builds/31136595 [13:00:48] JeroenDeDauw: WikibaseQuery fixed ;) [13:02:06] jeez, Wikidata is becoming slower by the day. [13:02:27] hoo: [13:02:30] aaaaah y u remove space? [13:02:37] now merge conflict https://github.com/wmde/WikibaseQuery/pull/43 [13:02:55] [13WikibaseQuery] 15JeroenDeDauw closed pull request #43: Stop exclusing test (06master...06testexclude) 02http://git.io/ERceQw [13:02:59] :P [13:03:06] hoo: great, thanks for fixing! \o/ [13:03:51] [13WikibaseQuery] 15JeroenDeDauw pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/I07V1A [13:03:51] 13WikibaseQuery/06master 1460c0034 15Jeroen De Dauw: Update .travis.yml [13:04:01] https://www.dropbox.com/s/dqsuh6v3slbu2zv/Schermafdruk%202014-07-29%2015.03.57.png -_- [13:04:25] sjoerddebruin: What did you try to do? [13:04:28] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150195 (owner: 10Hoo man) [13:04:35] Adding a alias. [13:04:42] But I also get it when I add statements [13:04:53] Happening for a few days now. [13:04:58] (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] Fix handling of the specialSiteLinkGroups setting [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150195 (owner: 10Hoo man) [13:05:03] :( [13:05:08] Lydia_WMDE: ^ known problems? [13:05:08] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix handling of the specialSiteLinkGroups setting [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150195 (owner: 10Hoo man) [13:05:28] It's quite annoying when you're fighting a backlog. [13:06:13] Got an reproducible example? [13:06:58] If I force to reproduce it, it will work good. So is life. Got a cracking door? It will not crack when you want to demonstrate it. [13:07:26] is it slow all the time or just sometimes insanely slow? [13:07:35] Sometimes. [13:07:47] But getting worser every day. [13:08:15] might be an operations problem, rather [13:09:27] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150196 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/67538) (owner: 10Hoo man) [13:09:41] No problems with page loading etc, just timeouts when adding stuff. [13:13:12] (03PS2) 10Bene: Get label of badge in SiteLinksView [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/149865 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/68183) [13:13:20] hoo, hi. Are you plan to enable related projects block in ruwiki today? [13:14:02] Yep, that's planned [13:14:25] (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] Lua: Allow arbitrary item access [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150196 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/67538) (owner: 10Hoo man) [13:14:33] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Lua: Allow arbitrary item access [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150196 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/67538) (owner: 10Hoo man) [13:14:35] (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Lua: Add integration tests for the 'allowArbitraryDataAccess' setting [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150205 [13:14:40] (03PS4) 10JanZerebecki: Add title by item special page. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/149877 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64776) [13:16:57] [13WikibaseQuery] 15JeroenDeDauw pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/UOE7BQ [13:16:57] 13WikibaseQuery/06master 14d54b023 15Jeroen De Dauw: Update .travis.yml [13:17:38] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150197 (owner: 10Hoo man) [13:17:53] (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] Adds a beta feature for "Other project" sidebar [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150197 (owner: 10Hoo man) [13:18:06] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Adds a beta feature for "Other project" sidebar [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150197 (owner: 10Hoo man) [13:18:11] (03CR) 10JanZerebecki: "PS4: Addressed most comments. Still to do: split up / complexity, selector widgets, naming." (0322 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/149877 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64776) (owner: 10JanZerebecki) [13:18:22] (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Provides a default to otherProjectsLinks configuration parameter [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150206 [13:22:20] hoo: beta feature deploy? :D [13:22:43] benestar: No, we only bring it in place [13:22:52] when will it go live? [13:22:53] wont get enabled, yet [13:22:57] 19th [13:23:01] :( [13:23:06] oh, the big day :) [13:23:13] it's like christmas :) [13:23:22] * sjoerddebruin is marking it [13:23:58] Do we need to hang our socks on our computers? [13:25:56] no, but it surely wont harm :D [13:27:41] only dirty socks please... it reflects work done [13:28:46] sjoerddebruin: that will make an awesome picture xD [13:29:28] Henning_WMDE: Tobi_WMDE_SWE: Do we the new api to be like wikibase.api.RepoApi or rather in wikibase.api directly? [13:29:45] new as in: In the new component [13:31:00] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150202 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66839) (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [13:37:30] (03PS3) 10Hoo man: Get label of badge in SiteLinksView [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/149865 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/68183) (owner: 10Bene) [13:37:52] Tobi_WMDE_SWE: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68565 [13:38:18] JeroenDeDauw: Do you have an opinion on the JS naming [13:38:18] GerardM-, no dirty socks plz, it smells ;oD [13:38:22] ? [13:38:29] hoo: Not sure, not into the API currently. But I would guess, in terms of modularity, wikibase.api.RepoApi would make more sense since there may be additional components in the wikibase.api namespace. However, the RL module should probably be called wikibase.api and act as container. Basically, like Adrian's recent RL module management (for example https://github.com/wmde/WikibaseDataModelJavascri [13:38:31] pt/commit/fbdbdddeb5bbd1a7e6041ada32cf27d30ea099c2) [13:38:42] Henning_WMDE: what naming? [13:39:13] Why me? [13:39:16] ;) [13:39:48] Ok, I guess that sounds decent [13:41:55] (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] "Good enough for now. Manually verified." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/149865 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/68183) (owner: 10Bene) [13:42:01] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Get label of badge in SiteLinksView [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/149865 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/68183) (owner: 10Bene) [13:42:11] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/145281 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [13:47:01] sjoerddebruin: that sucks indeed. i've not noticed anyone else with the problem so far. and as hoo said maybe it is an operations issue? i am not sure how to best debug this. anyone else got any ideas? [13:47:54] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/149865 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/68183) (owner: 10Bene) [13:48:40] If this happens fairly often, I can try to debug it... but if it's only occasional it's probably not something we can really fix [13:49:31] I'll look into the logs at least [13:50:46] uh yikes [13:51:14] out of memory errors... and the user is my bot :P [13:52:57] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150205 (owner: 10Hoo man) [13:53:18] sjoerddebruin: Do the edits work when you see the timeouts or is stuff just vanishing? [13:53:34] Sometimes they get saved, get edit conflicts then. [13:53:42] mh, ok [13:53:42] :S [13:54:07] So the software says there is a timeout (because of the long time), but the edit gets saved. :/ [13:56:50] Lydia_WMDE: we can always stare at gangalia [13:56:59] and don't understand a thing from it [13:57:01] :P [13:57:37] (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] Lua: Add integration tests for the 'allowArbitraryDataAccess' setting [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150205 (owner: 10Hoo man) [13:57:40] I think someone could look at logs [13:57:44] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Lua: Add integration tests for the 'allowArbitraryDataAccess' setting [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150205 (owner: 10Hoo man) [13:57:50] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/149877 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64776) (owner: 10JanZerebecki) [13:57:53] (server side) [13:58:25] this timeouts are from api, right? [13:58:43] yeah [14:01:49] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Remove comment that perscribes dubious approach to solve a problem [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/149246 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [14:03:18] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150206 (owner: 10Hoo man) [14:03:37] (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] Provides a default to otherProjectsLinks configuration parameter [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150206 (owner: 10Hoo man) [14:03:44] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Provides a default to otherProjectsLinks configuration parameter [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150206 (owner: 10Hoo man) [14:04:06] (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Make "otherProjectsLinks" setting compatible with the "special" sitelink group [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150211 [14:06:54] looks like our changes aren't propagating to travis anymore [14:07:46] It's annoying to see deprecated properties in the suggester. Where is the checkmark button on the property page? :P [14:07:58] "Mark as deprecated" [14:08:02] :P [14:08:09] JeroenDeDauw: Did you change anything regarding that? [14:12:15] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/149865 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/68183) (owner: 10Bene) [14:15:04] DanielK_WMDE__: Got a moment to sanity check two configuration changes? [14:15:04] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150187 [14:15:04] and follow-up [14:15:45] sjoerddebruin: actually there should be a blacklist for such properties. maybe we didn't set that up properly. [14:16:13] will put that on my todo [14:16:17] Where is it located? [14:16:25] in the config iirc [14:16:38] No MediaWiki-page? :( [14:16:45] tbh i am not sure [14:16:58] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P741 should be added. [14:17:03] we will check [14:18:28] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150211 (owner: 10Hoo man) [14:18:48] (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] Make "otherProjectsLinks" setting compatible with the "special" sitelink group [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150211 (owner: 10Hoo man) [14:18:53] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Make "otherProjectsLinks" setting compatible with the "special" sitelink group [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150211 (owner: 10Hoo man) [14:29:38] hoo: huh? [14:29:44] JeroenDeDauw: Works again [14:33:07] is there a reason the "altitude"-field in the globecoordinates-JSON is always null? [14:33:43] diferrumtrioxide: I don't know [14:36:20] (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Update Wikibase and ValueView [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.24-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150218 [14:39:14] only Wikidata.org and move out of exp. missing to get badges usable :) [14:42:26] hoo: :D [14:42:46] hoo: where else do I have to remove the experimental mode? [14:43:02] benestar: A lot of places... various api modules etc. [14:43:04] just grep for it [14:43:18] and check everything... I guess 80% of the exp. code is badges stuff [14:43:23] also think about JS [14:44:45] ideally, there is only one or two "EXPERIMENTAL" checks per feature: when registering stuff. [14:45:20] In a perfect world maybe [14:45:22] we need a better way to do this... maybe we should have an array of experimental features, so each can be checked (and grep-ed) by name [14:45:24] but not the way we do stuff [14:45:31] well, i try to do it that way. [14:45:48] redirects has two exp checks i think, one in EntityHandler and one when registering api modules [14:46:02] DanielK_WMDE__: Anyway... please have a quick look at the configuration changes... just +1 [14:46:08] so that I can safely self merge late ron [14:46:14] but that's cheating a little, since EntityHandler uses it to offer a feature check via supportsRedirects [14:50:12] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.24-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150218 (owner: 10Hoo man) [14:52:23] hoo: done [14:53:33] hoo: DanielK_WMDE__: We could have avoided most of the experimental tests [14:53:45] because you cannot do anything as long as there is no config for it [14:53:51] they are mostly useless [14:54:15] the only case they make sense is on the special page to change the label of the form [14:55:22] hoo: is it normal that grep takes hours? [14:55:28] I did not use it often yet [14:57:22] DanielK_WMDE__: Tahnks [14:57:47] no [14:57:57] just run it over lib repo and client [14:58:06] grep -r WB_EXPERIMENTAL repo/ [14:58:07] etc. [14:58:15] (assuming the constant name is right) [14:58:25] same for the JS var, although I think we only use that in lib [15:00:21] benestar .. [15:01:04] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "This is starting to look nice!" (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/149877 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64776) (owner: 10JanZerebecki) [15:03:12] sta bene! [15:12:24] (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] Update Wikibase and ValueView [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.24-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150218 (owner: 10Hoo man) [15:17:21] Henning_WMDE: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/146185 [15:17:29] is there consensus for that? [15:20:40] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update Wikibase and ValueView [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.24-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150218 (owner: 10Hoo man) [15:22:46] hoo: how is the constant named in javascript? [15:22:58] Nemo_bis: heyho :) [15:23:35] "benestar" means approval in Italian ;) [15:23:53] benestar: wbExperimentalFeatures [15:23:55] :D [15:24:27] Nemo_bis: so everything I say is correct because everybody says benestar to me ^^ [15:25:18] ;) [15:27:04] (03PS2) 10Bene: Take badges out of experimental mode [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150026 [15:27:11] hoo: found them all 8D [15:27:13] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Take badges out of experimental mode [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150026 (owner: 10Bene) [15:27:17] :( [15:36:26] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150026 (owner: 10Bene) [15:39:35] (03PS3) 10Bene: Take badges out of experimental mode [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150026 [15:48:33] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150026 (owner: 10Bene) [15:49:34] (03Abandoned) 10Addshore: New Wikidata Build - 28/07/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/149821 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder) [16:00:13] hoo: do we need to localize spaces like " " when adding them to output? [16:00:41] benestar: Sometimes [16:00:54] deploy now, so might respond slow [16:01:04] ok, good luck [16:02:00] benestar: Nemo_bis: hax! [16:12:14] JeroenDeDauw: :P https://twitter.com/benestar_wm/status/494152900906463232 [16:37:20] What's up here? https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q17443527#sitelinks-commons [16:37:48] wtf [16:38:04] Never touched it. [16:38:09] ah gosh [16:38:22] fuck [16:38:48] I can do a configuration hot fix [16:38:54] That would be great. [16:38:54] puh [16:39:04] just wait for the scap to run through [16:42:40] DanielK_WMDE__: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150246 [17:00:05] Lydia_WMDE: I'm done [17:00:31] https://test.wikidata.org/wiki/Q296#sitelinks-special [17:00:54] sjoerddebruin: If you still have prolems: Those are coming from caching and will go away soonish [17:01:02] sorry for the inconvenience [17:01:18] Pretty hard cache. [17:02:08] yeah... that cache caused us troubles more than once [17:02:18] it works again for me now w/o debug=true [17:12:05] Lydia_WMDE: https://test.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:KittensAre [17:12:13] this uses arbitrary item access in Lua [17:12:27] * hoo wonders who made kittens part of Beer :D [17:14:21] hoo: \o/ [17:14:24] sweet [17:15:13] Except for the minor hiccups I caused to Wikidata everything went fine [17:15:27] linkItem bug fix also confirmed, btw [17:16:37] :P [17:17:20] \o/ [17:27:08] !cookie hoo [17:37:25] cookies :) [18:20:44] hoo|away: aude [18:20:46] Fatal error: Base lambda function for closure not found in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.24wmf15/extensions/Wikidata/extensions/Wikibase/lib/config/WikibaseLib.default.php on line 18 [18:21:28] aude is traveling [18:21:58] wtf [18:22:03] is that an hhvm error? [18:22:13] Can't be [18:22:18] Well, could be.. [18:23:31] Reedy: Maybe something that happened during my scap? [18:23:45] test2 [18:23:47] (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Add order test to DataModelSerializationRoundtripTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150284 [18:24:06] 4 or 5 different hosts at least [18:25:49] (03PS2) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Add support for numeric months in MwTimeIsoFormatter [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/149823 [18:26:17] google suggests this might be an APC hiccup [18:26:20] Reedy: ^ [18:26:23] try touching it?! [18:29:13] (03CR) 10Siebrand: [C: 031] "i18n/L10n reviewed." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150026 (owner: 10Bene) [18:29:50] away again [18:32:28] (03CR) 10Siebrand: [C: 031] "i18n/L10n reviewed." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/149877 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64776) (owner: 10JanZerebecki) [18:36:12] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150284 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [18:38:01] (03PS2) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Refactor MonthNameUnlocalizer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148122 [18:38:03] (03PS2) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Drop unused parameter from MonthNameUnlocalizer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148114 [18:44:19] (03PS8) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Find better name for DataUpdateClosure [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/137948 [18:49:03] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/149823 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [18:49:22] (03PS4) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Refactor ChangeNotifiers and weird "channel" concept [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148065 [18:58:22] hi, just wanting to make sure: Is my bug in the correct bugzilla product/component? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68729 [18:58:42] it's about a problem with the WD API, I think it applies to Wikimedia WD extension in general [19:00:02] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148122 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [19:00:29] JeroenDeDauw: joining the hhvm talk? https://plus.google.com/events/cp5mjf6jrihevtdje8lmu5hvm1k [19:04:40] bthfan: yes that is fine :) [19:05:34] ok [19:08:03] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148114 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [19:13:23] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/137948 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [19:18:24] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148065 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [19:23:54] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "A quick thought about the case "the input language is English": don't introduce special cases into the unlocalizer in that case. Just don'" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148122 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [19:28:15] Thiemo_WMDE: good interview :) (even if they cut out wikidata. narf) [19:40:05] Lydia_WMDE: is there a Wikidata community meetup at Wikimania? [19:40:30] benestar: i want one yes but i didn't have time to add it yet. do you want to? [19:40:39] too many things to do atm [19:40:40] :( [19:40:43] yes! [19:41:07] wanna add it to the meetups on the wikimania wiki? there are already some [19:41:56] Lydia_WMDE: any specific date? [19:42:02] benestar: make sure you go to Lydia_WMDE's awesome keynote and panel stuff! [19:42:02] :p [19:42:08] :D [19:42:23] benestar: no preference except earlier is probably better? [19:42:40] benestar: organise it the same time as her keynote! :D [19:42:51] Oo [19:42:56] I smell the evilness in this channel [19:42:58] evil JohnLewis [19:42:58] :P [19:43:16] benestar: ofc [19:45:57] Lydia_WMDE: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Beta_Features/Other_projects_sidebar is this in 1.24wmf15? [19:46:50] Reedy: i am losing overview tbh. but we want to deploy it on august 26 [19:47:03] hoo would know which version it is in [19:47:07] it is reviewed and all [19:47:26] It was suggested that https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68815 was possibly caused to it [19:48:12] Reedy: it shouldn't be but best check with hoo [19:48:17] or aude when she is around [19:53:29] (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Use real cloning in ChangeOpAliasesTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150308 [19:56:59] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150308 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [20:07:28] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150362 (owner: 10L10n-bot) [20:09:24] (03PS7) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Attempt to clean-up and refactor ChangeOp and Validators code [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133523 [20:11:23] (03PS5) 10JanZerebecki: Add title by item special page. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/149877 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64776) [20:16:19] (03CR) 10JanZerebecki: "PS5: split execute function up (functionally no change); add @author tags" (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/149877 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64776) (owner: 10JanZerebecki) [20:20:23] (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Replace Aliases in WikibaseRepo class map [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150376 [20:22:43] (03PS5) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Refactor ChangeNotifiers and weird "channel" concept [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148065 [20:23:46] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133523 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [20:30:56] (03CR) 10JanZerebecki: "I think adding JS widgets should be done in an additional commit if still desired as it involves a bit more work. See inline comments for " (034 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/149877 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64776) (owner: 10JanZerebecki) [20:36:01] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/149877 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64776) (owner: 10JanZerebecki) [20:41:46] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150376 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [20:47:04] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148065 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [20:52:22] Lydia_WMDE: https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata_Meetup [20:53:05] benestar: brrrrrrrrrr Wikidatian!!! :D can we change that part? rest is perfect [20:53:09] thank you so much! [20:53:38] what should be replaced by what? [20:54:05] (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 032] Drop unused parameter from MonthNameUnlocalizer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148114 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [20:54:22] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Drop unused parameter from MonthNameUnlocalizer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148114 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [20:54:25] benestar: where it says "Yes, I'm a Wikidatian" [20:55:09] Lydia_WMDE: you don't like Wikidatian, the word? [20:55:45] jep [20:55:55] i think it's pretty horrible [20:55:57] :P [20:56:00] sorry [20:56:02] hey :P [20:56:12] so what is the equivalent to Wikipedian? [20:56:32] (03Abandoned) 10Addshore: New Wikidata Build - 29/07/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/150173 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder) [20:56:37] i have yet to find something nice but it's definitely not wikidatian :D [20:56:44] Wikidata contributor? [20:56:47] boring i know [20:58:56] Wikidatan is what the lounge is using [21:03:01] Lydia_WMDE: better? [21:03:18] benestar: :D yes! [21:03:26] you're the best [21:03:35] will add my name [21:03:53] and add it to my email announcing all wikidata stuff at wikimania [21:03:59] (unless someone else wants to do that) [21:04:58] benestar: signed up :) [21:06:08] :) [21:25:54] arghhhh!!! [21:26:00] my eyes are bleeding! [21:26:05] why all caps?! [21:26:59] benestar: ^ [21:27:26] lazowik: caps? [21:27:32] in titles [21:27:36] DATE [21:27:40] LOCATION [21:27:42] etc. [21:27:46] ah, some weird style suggestion of Wikimania team [21:27:55] not my fault, really [21:28:01] but I can try to fix it ... [21:28:49] benestar: you can go and throw http://practicaltypography.com/all-caps.html at face of anyone who's behind this [21:28:50] :p [21:29:18] well [21:29:26] it says “Caps are suit­able for head­ings short­er than one line” [21:29:33] but still [21:29:39] best used sparingly [21:30:18] benestar: if it's imposed leave it [21:32:15] lazowik: https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.css&diff=7915&oldid=7330 [21:32:30] I know [21:33:26] it's ugly but not my problem :P [21:34:21] when everything is emphasized, nothing actually is