[01:35:26] Hi. [01:39:14] I just want to invite Wikidata developers to spend more time on issues of performance, if possible. Indeed, almost every time I go to an article on Wikidata, my browser crashes, whereas I never had a problem on other wikis. [01:39:41] hi Automatik [01:39:54] i'm not a developer, but i'm wondering what browser you're using? [01:39:54] hi Jhs [01:39:59] Firefox [01:40:04] newest version? [01:40:10] the latest version [01:40:19] hmm [01:40:20] (stable) [01:40:37] i use chrome myself, and i rarely have any issues [01:40:46] haven't actually tried wikidata on firefox [01:41:33] it's a problem with javascript (scripts are too long to execute) [01:41:51] however, i'm fairly certain i read that they are working on a new interface for wikidata; that will probably change the frontend quite a bit, and hopefully fix some of these issues [01:42:00] but don't take my word on it, i'm just speculating here [01:48:37] actually Chrome seems to react better with scripts long to execute (I've no alert on the page, and it sounds better) [08:14:45] [13ValueView] 15thiemowmde pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/L8-GrA [08:14:45] 13ValueView/06master 14fb78ba8 15thiemowmde: Merge pull request #89 from wmde/blacksuggestertext... [08:18:42] [13ValueView] 15thiemowmde created 06selectors (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/DgwPog [08:18:42] 13ValueView/06selectors 143023884 15Thiemo Mättig: Remove irrelevant ooMenu selectors [08:21:55] [13ValueView] 15thiemowmde opened pull request #90: Remove irrelevant ooMenu selectors (06master...06selectors) 02http://git.io/g9totA [08:40:09] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 032] Fix triggering of 'restrictEntityPageActions' and 'blockEntityPageActions' [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148093 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/68322) (owner: 10Hoo man) [08:40:41] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix triggering of 'restrictEntityPageActions' and 'blockEntityPageActions' [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148093 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/68322) (owner: 10Hoo man) [08:41:15] :) [08:50:36] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 031] "Thanks. Looks good to me. +1 to give the team an other chance to have a look. Lydia?" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148376 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54275) (owner: 10Alex Monk) [08:51:47] hey :) [08:52:23] moin! [08:52:24] hi lazowik [09:03:47] [13ValueView] 15mlazowik comment on commit 143023884: Is a.ui-state-hover ever going to happen? .ui-state-hover is applied to its parent. The same goes for .ui-state-active, though I'm not sure. 02http://git.io/YOhFRA [09:04:59] [13ValueView] 15thiemowmde comment on commit 143023884: I was wondering too. If you think it's dead code I'm happy to double check and remove it. 02http://git.io/Rkp3-g [09:05:54] (03CR) 10Aude: "suggestion" (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148376 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54275) (owner: 10Alex Monk) [09:06:45] Thiemo_WMDE: yeah, I'm pretty sure [09:06:53] it wouldn't make much sense [09:07:12] even if some code actually does add that class to it probably shouldn't [09:07:23] (just shooting blind guesses :p) [09:07:39] brb [09:33:55] [13ValueView] 15thiemowmde pushed 1 new commit to 06selectors: 02http://git.io/_zKWeQ [09:33:55] 13ValueView/06selectors 14c06b6d1 15Thiemo Mättig: Drop dead CSS rule [09:35:33] (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Made all API modules use ApiErrorReporter [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148622 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64874) [09:37:20] Lydia_WMDE: http://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/wikidata/ [09:40:37] [13ValueView] 15thiemowmde comment on commit 143023884: @mlazowik I checked and think the whole block is irrelevant and can be removed. 02http://git.io/r_Qcaw [09:41:40] [13ValueView] 15mlazowik comment on commit 143023884: Great :+1: 02http://git.io/HLWh-Q [09:44:38] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148622 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64874) (owner: 10Hoo man) [09:46:37] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: Adding support for genitive month name (xg) (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/142519 (owner: 10Eranroz) [10:00:40] (03PS1) 10WikidataBuilder: New Wikidata Build - 23/07/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148625 [10:08:16] hoo: can you add the json dumps to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Database_download please? [10:12:39] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148625 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder) [10:13:46] Lydia_WMDE: will do [10:16:18] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 04-1] "We discussed this and really want to get it in the code base soon. Just an other suggestion. See the comment." (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148376 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54275) (owner: 10Alex Monk) [11:29:47] (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Reuse existing date formats in MwTimeIsoFormatter [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148641 [11:31:17] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): "I made two alternative proposals, see I232fd3b and Id09e26e." (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/142519 (owner: 10Eranroz) [11:37:00] Should this really be an item on WIkidata? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dys- [11:37:20] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148641 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [11:44:17] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: Make MonthNameUnlocalizer aware of genitive month names (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148113 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [11:51:50] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-1] "i can haz test?" (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148641 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [11:57:36] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: Reuse existing date formats in MwTimeIsoFormatter (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148641 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [12:16:57] (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Fix handling of the specialSiteLinkGroups setting [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148643 [12:23:27] (03PS4) 10Aude: Introduce VariantsRenderer for property parser function [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148096 [12:23:29] (03PS1) 10Aude: Fix and improve naming in parser function Runner [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148644 [12:31:05] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148643 (owner: 10Hoo man) [12:37:26] (03PS2) 10Hoo man: Fix handling of the specialSiteLinkGroups setting [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148643 [12:37:33] now review folks :P [12:41:10] (03PS4) 10Aude: Move property id resolving code for parser function into own class [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148125 [12:41:12] (03PS5) 10Aude: Introduce VariantsAwareRenderer for property parser function [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148096 [12:41:14] (03PS3) 10Aude: Move more renderer construction code into RendererFactory [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148103 [12:42:16] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148096 (owner: 10Aude) [12:43:45] (03CR) 10Aude: Introduce VariantsAwareRenderer for property parser function (033 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148096 (owner: 10Aude) [12:43:50] reeeeeeeview! [12:44:21] * aude shall also do review [12:48:35] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 04-1] "not manually tried this yet but have nitpick and found a typo" (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148643 (owner: 10Hoo man) [12:55:43] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148644 (owner: 10Aude) [12:55:55] hoo: Tobi_WMDE do i make a new tag 0.6.7 of value view with the bug fix? or some other way to get the fix into wikibase? [12:55:59] * aude wants to tag [12:56:42] aude: I'm fine with a tag [12:56:52] ok [12:56:59] that would fix master as well [12:58:02] aude: What bug? The hover thing? [12:58:08] yes [13:00:07] yeah, that sounds good enough for me [13:00:15] https://github.com/wmde/ValueView/pull/91 [13:00:15] [13ValueView] 15filbertkm created 060.6.7 (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/57tNLA [13:00:15] 13ValueView/060.6.7 149991999 15aude: Update README and version to 0.6.7 [13:00:21] I think we should update the build on Tuesday or so [13:00:25] [13ValueView] 15filbertkm opened pull request #91: Update README and version to 0.6.7 (06master...060.6.7) 02http://git.io/UNHBJQ [13:00:30] we will do swat today [13:00:36] including the Lua stuff and the special site group fix [13:00:42] that's fine for tuesday [13:00:56] * aude away but not needed then [13:02:32] ok, I guess I can do it [13:03:49] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148643 (owner: 10Hoo man) [13:04:01] (03PS3) 10Hoo man: Fix handling of the specialSiteLinkGroups setting [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148643 [13:04:22] (03CR) 10Hoo man: Fix handling of the specialSiteLinkGroups setting (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148643 (owner: 10Hoo man) [13:05:15] (03PS4) 10Hoo man: Fix handling of the specialSiteLinkGroups setting [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148643 [13:05:39] (03CR) 10Hoo man: "Addressed Aude's comments" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148643 (owner: 10Hoo man) [13:08:58] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: Introduce wbcreateredirect API module (037 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/143366 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65584) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [13:09:27] (03PS13) 10Daniel Kinzler: Introduce wbcreateredirect API module [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/143366 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65584) [13:16:09] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 031] "works like a charm :) the changes look sensible but will give daniel a chance to look" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148643 (owner: 10Hoo man) [13:17:08] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148125 (owner: 10Aude) [13:18:10] * aude will self merge in a few minutes https://github.com/wmde/ValueView/pull/91 if no one wants chocolate :) [13:18:36] chocolate \o/ [13:19:15] * hoo actually has a nit pick [13:19:19] [13ValueView] 15mariushoch comment on pull request #91 149991999: when hover via keydown 02http://git.io/SQJjVw [13:19:24] great [13:20:44] [13ValueView] 15filbertkm pushed 1 new commit to 060.6.7: 02http://git.io/H1112g [13:20:45] 13ValueView/060.6.7 1499acea0 15Katie Filbert: improve release notes for 0.6.7... [13:22:57] aude: Shouldn't it be hovered? [13:23:04] when hovered via keydown [13:23:23] I know I got that wrong, but that was only a comment :P [13:23:27] hover is ok [13:23:43] or hovering [13:23:45] or whatever [13:24:10] hovered [13:24:18] ok :) [13:24:19] but it's not hovered! [13:24:20] (03CR) 10Alex Monk: Put a link to the entity's canonical URI in the toolbox (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148376 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54275) (owner: 10Alex Monk) [13:24:24] selected? [13:24:27] ha! [13:24:32] got it [13:24:34] highlighted [13:24:40] highlighted! [13:24:45] yeah! [13:25:10] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148096 (owner: 10Aude) [13:25:57] haha [13:26:16] aude: you got quite nice short hash for the first commit there :p [13:26:16] https://github.com/wmde/ValueView/commit/9991999 [13:26:26] :) [13:27:12] [13ValueView] 15filbertkm 04force-pushed 060.6.7 from 1499acea0 to 149991999: 02http://git.io/6xLXMA [13:27:18] bah [13:28:25] [13ValueView] 15filbertkm 04force-pushed 060.6.7 from 149991999 to 140aaf65b: 02http://git.io/6xLXMA [13:28:25] 13ValueView/060.6.7 140aaf65b 15aude: Update README and version to 0.6.7 [13:29:59] Lydia_WMDE: u want some phabricator? [13:29:59] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Help [13:30:10] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148103 (owner: 10Aude) [13:34:59] [13ValueView] 15mariushoch pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/OnUgLg [13:34:59] 13ValueView/06master 1466686f9 15Marius Hoch: Merge pull request #91 from wmde/0.6.7... [13:35:08] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148643 (owner: 10Hoo man) [13:36:50] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 04-1] "nitpicks" (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/146063 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [13:40:12] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148643 (owner: 10Hoo man) [13:45:10] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/143366 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65584) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [13:46:13] (03PS1) 10Aude: Make naming in SiteLinkTargetProviderTest more clear [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148654 [13:47:42] so wikibase master uses value view 0.6.5 and deployment uses 0.6.6? [13:47:49] hoo: am i confused? [13:47:50] no [13:47:59] https://git.wikimedia.org/blob/mediawiki%2Fextensions%2FWikibase/120d38a249c5643d5e93beac9a6e303f7fc5331a/composer.json [13:48:09] oh well [13:48:14] i can change it [13:48:15] but composer is smarter than that :P [13:48:20] ah [13:48:21] Tobi wanted to not have it changed [13:48:26] ok :) [13:51:15] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 032] Resolve redirects in JS config variables. (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/145522 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66971) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [13:51:18] [13ValueView] 15filbertkm tagged 060.6.7 at 06master: 02http://git.io/6xLXMA [13:51:32] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Resolve redirects in JS config variables. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/145522 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66971) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [13:51:33] hoo: aude: I always thought composer is that smart [13:51:40] :) [13:51:51] but since hoo mentioned it is probably not, I'm unsure [13:51:58] i will try [13:55:03] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148654 (owner: 10Aude) [13:55:47] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "some thoughts/comments" (034 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148096 (owner: 10Aude) [14:00:13] (03CR) 10Aude: Introduce VariantsAwareRenderer for property parser function (034 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148096 (owner: 10Aude) [14:01:08] about the pywikibot event [14:03:54] (03PS2) 10Hoo man: Made all API modules use ApiErrorReporter [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148622 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64874) [14:05:41] (03PS1) 10Aude: New deployment build, fix css issue in entity, sitelink... suggester [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.24-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148656 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/68386) [14:07:05] (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Add more test cases to EntityInfoBuilderTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148658 [14:09:31] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "The code looks good, but the tests are brittle, so this needs manual verification." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148643 (owner: 10Hoo man) [14:09:37] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 031] Fix handling of the specialSiteLinkGroups setting [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148643 (owner: 10Hoo man) [14:09:39] (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] "trivial" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148658 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [14:09:53] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add more test cases to EntityInfoBuilderTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148658 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [14:10:27] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 032] Made all API modules use ApiErrorReporter [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148622 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64874) (owner: 10Hoo man) [14:10:43] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Made all API modules use ApiErrorReporter [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148622 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64874) (owner: 10Hoo man) [14:12:55] (03PS6) 10Alex Monk: Put a link to the entity's canonical URI in the toolbox [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148376 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54275) [14:15:22] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 031] Move more renderer construction code into RendererFactory [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148103 (owner: 10Aude) [14:17:40] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-1] Move property id resolving code for parser function into own class (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148125 (owner: 10Aude) [14:19:02] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 032] Fix and improve naming in parser function Runner [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148644 (owner: 10Aude) [14:19:58] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix and improve naming in parser function Runner [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148644 (owner: 10Aude) [14:22:19] (03PS6) 10Daniel Kinzler: Split the applyRedirect method for readability. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/146063 [14:23:56] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148622 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64874) (owner: 10Hoo man) [14:25:09] (03PS4) 10Hoo man: Inject AbstractedRepoApi into views [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/145279 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [14:27:03] DanielK_WMDE: http://wdjenkins.wmflabs.org/ci/job/wikibase-repo-api-tests/2744/console -.- [14:28:01] (03CR) 10Hoo man: "Rebased" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/145279 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [14:34:44] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/a79bbc4 : jenkins-bot The build was broken. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/30654814 [14:37:07] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.24-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148656 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/68386) (owner: 10Aude) [14:37:55] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] New deployment build, fix css issue in entity, sitelink... suggester [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.24-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148656 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/68386) (owner: 10Aude) [14:38:39] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148658 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [14:41:02] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: New deployment build, fix css issue in entity, sitelink... suggester [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.24-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148656 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/68386) (owner: 10Aude) [14:41:59] (03PS1) 10Aude: Rename Renderer interface to PropertyClaimsRenderer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148664 [14:42:28] (03PS5) 10Hoo man: Inject AbstractedRepoApi into views [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/145279 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [14:43:29] (03CR) 10Hoo man: "Made this throw errors if no abstracted repo api is given. Untested. Also didn't touch unrelated files... if you want that, do it in a fol" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/145279 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [14:44:20] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-1] Rename Renderer interface to PropertyClaimsRenderer (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148664 (owner: 10Aude) [14:44:36] (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Don't use wfDeprecated in ApiWikibase::dieUsage [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148666 [14:48:23] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/dd2f0ea : jenkins-bot The build was broken. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/30655550 [14:48:28] Thiemo_WMDE: Tobi_WMDE: Want to take a look at my changes to https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/145279 ? [14:48:50] it's one of Adrian's remaining patches [14:49:08] I've touched it, so I need another pair of eyes to continue here ;) [14:51:25] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148376 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54275) (owner: 10Alex Monk) [14:52:59] Hm. Maybe I should be setting my email as @gmail.com for that change... [15:00:36] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/146063 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [15:00:47] DanielK_WMDE: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54277 [15:06:35] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/145279 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [15:11:33] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148664 (owner: 10Aude) [15:14:17] (03CR) 10Aude: Rename Renderer interface to PropertyClaimsRenderer (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148664 (owner: 10Aude) [15:15:55] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 031] "waiting for jenkins" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148666 (owner: 10Hoo man) [15:16:29] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/145279 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [15:21:33] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148666 (owner: 10Hoo man) [15:23:25] aude: ^ [15:23:28] (03PS2) 10Aude: Rename Renderer interface to PropertyClaimsRenderer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148664 [15:23:30] (03PS1) 10Aude: Add getLanguageAwareRendererFromCode to PropertyClaimsRendererFactory [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148672 [15:23:49] Lydia_WMDE: Is the time-thing slower than before? I make mistakes like this all the time. https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q2745721&diff=147082294&oldid=147082252 [15:24:21] (03PS2) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Reuse existing date formats in MwTimeIsoFormatter [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148641 [15:24:33] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Reuse existing date formats in MwTimeIsoFormatter (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148641 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [15:25:34] (03CR) 10Aude: Introduce VariantsAwareRenderer for property parser function (033 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148096 (owner: 10Aude) [15:25:52] sjoerddebruin: Lydia is not around atm, and I don't know [15:26:00] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Don't use wfDeprecated in ApiWikibase::dieUsage [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148666 (owner: 10Hoo man) [15:26:14] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Don't use wfDeprecated in ApiWikibase::dieUsage [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148666 (owner: 10Hoo man) [15:26:29] hoo: I think it should wait with saving after the conversion is finished. [15:28:01] it should [15:28:22] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] "manually verified, looks good to me" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148643 (owner: 10Hoo man) [15:28:26] (that's from my limited knowledge about these components, I've never touched them) [15:28:37] would probably be best to open a bug [15:28:43] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix handling of the specialSiteLinkGroups setting [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148643 (owner: 10Hoo man) [15:28:58] hoo: You or me? ;) [15:29:22] it would be great if you could go ahead [15:29:32] WikibaseDatabase? [15:34:28] no, WikidataRepo is the component [15:34:39] (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Target hhvm-nightly instead of hhvm [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148683 [15:35:37] Ok [15:37:29] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148664 (owner: 10Aude) [15:38:07] (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] "This works, is an improvement and all of Daniel's comments have been addressed in follow-ups." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148096 (owner: 10Aude) [15:38:58] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Introduce VariantsAwareRenderer for property parser function [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148096 (owner: 10Aude) [15:39:04] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] "no point in waiting for jenkins" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148683 (owner: 10Hoo man) [15:39:14] hoo: I hope it's good. :/ https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68443 [15:39:23] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Target hhvm-nightly instead of hhvm [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148683 (owner: 10Hoo man) [15:40:04] sjoerddebruin: Thanks... not sure it's clear enoguh, though [15:40:13] so you enter something, save it... but it then saves an older value [15:40:21] because it's not done computing? [15:40:26] Yeah, that's it. [15:40:30] Yikes :S [15:41:38] Ok, clarified that [15:42:37] We need a thankbutton. :P [15:43:40] hehe... thanks for reporting that :) [15:43:58] (03PS4) 10Hoo man: Move more renderer construction code into RendererFactory [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148103 (owner: 10Aude) [15:45:58] hoo: Have you tried to reduplicate it [15:47:47] you mean to reproduce? Not yet, but can try on my dev setup [15:48:04] Oh, yes. Sorry. [15:48:11] this is not really my area, but I can have a look, sure [15:48:32] It's also not my area. ; [15:48:34] ;) [15:48:56] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148672 (owner: 10Aude) [15:50:28] (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 04-1] "Naming, again :S Didn't yet look at the tests" (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148103 (owner: 10Aude) [15:56:25] sjoerddebruin: Can't reproduce this now... can you be more specific maybe [15:56:40] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148641 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [15:56:45] That's the difficult part of this: it doesn't happen always. [15:56:57] eg. I enter 2012-06-23 and then quickly press enter, it looks fine to me [15:56:57] ok [15:56:58] ms [15:57:00] * mh [15:57:18] btw, i'm typing things like "1 december 2013" [15:57:34] ok [15:57:39] what browser do you use? [15:57:43] Safari. :)_ [15:57:50] ok :P [15:57:58] What's with the :P? :P [15:58:35] just not a browser I'd choose to use [15:58:44] Why? [15:58:45] hoo uses IE [15:59:11] Clearly [15:59:12] :D [15:59:52] Reedy: I always thought he used netscape! [16:00:48] (03PS2) 10Aude: Add getLanguageAwareRendererFromCode to PropertyClaimsRendererFactory [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148672 [16:00:50] (03PS5) 10Aude: Move property id resolving code for parser function into own class [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148125 [16:00:52] (03PS3) 10Aude: Rename Renderer interface to PropertyClaimsRenderer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148664 [16:00:54] (03PS5) 10Aude: Move more renderer construction code into RendererFactory [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148103 [16:01:20] Can't reproduce this, no matter how hard I try [16:01:24] * hoo giving up for now [16:01:36] also I don't have Safari and can only test other webkit browsers [16:01:47] (03CR) 10Aude: Move more renderer construction code into RendererFactory (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148103 (owner: 10Aude) [16:01:55] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148683 (owner: 10Hoo man) [16:03:41] there we go again, hoo. https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q2269548&diff=147087874&oldid=147087856 [16:04:32] it's a really weird thing. [16:04:33] maybe someone with Safari can try to reproduce [16:05:02] i can't reproduce yet [16:05:23] what is odd is that https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q12178710 displays 'gregorian' for date of birth but not death [16:05:40] probably nothing new but just noticed [16:06:00] It only displays gregorian when it's needed. :P [16:06:07] ah [16:10:09] (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] "New function name is ok with me." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148103 (owner: 10Aude) [16:10:26] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Move more renderer construction code into RendererFactory [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148103 (owner: 10Aude) [16:14:13] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/8a799b4 : Marius Hoch The build was fixed. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/30662550 [16:14:20] (03CR) 10Hoo man: Move property id resolving code for parser function into own class (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148125 (owner: 10Aude) [16:15:30] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148103 (owner: 10Aude) [16:16:03] (03CR) 10Hoo man: "As I've touched this, this needs another pair of eyes (you just have to review the things I've added)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/145279 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [16:22:51] (03PS2) 10Hoo man: Make naming in SiteLinkTargetProviderTest more clear [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148654 (owner: 10Aude) [16:24:11] hoo: I think the system can't handle my fastness. [16:25:26] :D [16:25:49] (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 04-1] "as per Thiemo on PS5" (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148376 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54275) (owner: 10Alex Monk) [16:28:02] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148672 (owner: 10Aude) [16:28:42] (03PS7) 10Alex Monk: Put a link to the entity's canonical URI in the toolbox [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148376 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54275) [16:29:05] (cur | prev) 16:27, 23 July 2014‎ Hoo man (Talk | contribs | block)‎ . . (10,187 bytes) (+1)‎ . . (‎Page moved from [testwikidatawiki:Help:Kittens!] to [testwikidatawiki:Help:Kittens!!]) (rollback 1 edit | undo) [16:29:07] :) [16:29:24] hah! [16:37:39] (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 031] "Patch works for me, but the URIs generated don't work for me (because of the hard coded stuff in WikibaseRepo)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148376 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54275) (owner: 10Alex Monk) [16:39:09] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148125 (owner: 10Aude) [16:39:28] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/1dc4901 : jenkins-bot The build was fixed. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/30662941 [16:43:48] hoo, yeah, they don't actually work for me either. But should in production [16:44:21] we will have wikibase on commons [16:44:36] the links probably will be different (e.g. not the main namespace) [16:45:06] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148664 (owner: 10Aude) [16:45:37] if you are talknig aboug getDBKey() [16:45:41] about* [16:46:36] aude: No, about the hard coded /entity/ [16:46:43] aude, I was talking about the fact it's simply /entity/{db key} from the server [16:46:45] ah [16:46:58] As for getDBKey - I originally used getPrefixedText, then someone told me to change it [16:48:25] i know we did something with /entity in the apache config [16:48:38] don't know if it is a setting or if we care [16:50:02] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148103 (owner: 10Aude) [16:55:00] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148654 (owner: 10Aude) [16:57:27] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 032] Rename Renderer interface to PropertyClaimsRenderer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148664 (owner: 10Aude) [16:59:51] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148376 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54275) (owner: 10Alex Monk) [17:00:23] (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] Make naming in SiteLinkTargetProviderTest more clear [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148654 (owner: 10Aude) [17:00:40] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Make naming in SiteLinkTargetProviderTest more clear [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148654 (owner: 10Aude) [17:01:48] (03CR) 10Aude: "suggestion, though I could be like thiemo and make a follow up :)" (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/146063 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [17:01:56] DanielK_WMDE: ^ [17:05:31] (03CR) 10Aude: Split the applyRedirect method for readability. (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/146063 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [17:05:40] (03CR) 10Siebrand: [C: 031] "i18n/L10n reviewed." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148376 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54275) (owner: 10Alex Monk) [17:07:38] (03CR) 10Aude: "not sure enough to +2 and have nitpicks so can't +1" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/146063 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [17:09:30] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/ae283fb : jenkins-bot The build was fixed. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/30664203 [17:13:24] aude: Hi, I checked number of P625 after I ran my bot, 150K added [17:13:34] \o/ [17:13:45] is it bad? [17:13:57] I expected about 200K [17:14:24] (03PS8) 10Hoo man: Put a link to the entity's concept URI in the toolbox [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148376 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54275) (owner: 10Alex Monk) [17:14:33] (03PS7) 10Daniel Kinzler: Split the applyRedirect method for readability. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/146063 [17:15:09] (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] "Will make the concept URI a setting in a follow-up" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148376 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54275) (owner: 10Alex Monk) [17:15:30] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Put a link to the entity's concept URI in the toolbox [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148376 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54275) (owner: 10Alex Monk) [17:19:40] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 031] "much better but would prefer second opinion from someone more familiar with this code" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/146063 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [17:25:05] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/e956d80 : jenkins-bot The build was fixed. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/30664262 [17:27:19] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148376 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54275) (owner: 10Alex Monk) [17:29:11] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "I'd like to propose the following interface:" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140189 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [17:32:57] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/146063 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [17:35:35] (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Turn WikibaseRepo::getRdfBaseURI into a setting [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148708 [17:43:53] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/9990898 : jenkins-bot The build was fixed. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/30667778 [17:44:27] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148708 (owner: 10Hoo man) [17:51:12] (03PS13) 10Hoo man: Adds a beta feature for "Other project" sidebar [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/132606 (owner: 10Tpt) [17:57:40] (03CR) 10Siebrand: "i18n/L10n reviewed." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/132606 (owner: 10Tpt) [17:59:51] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/132606 (owner: 10Tpt) [18:10:49] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/132613/10/client/config/WikibaseClient.default.php [18:10:52] hoo: ^ [18:10:59] it's in the base revision [18:11:24] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/132606/13/client/config/WikibaseClient.default.php [18:11:28] it's new [18:34:07] (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] "Will follow-up with documentation for the various otherProjectsLinks* settings in a second." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/132606 (owner: 10Tpt) [18:36:48] (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Add documentation for the various otherProjectsLinks* settings [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148728 [18:36:54] aude: ^ :) [18:38:46] (03PS2) 10Hoo man: Add documentation for the various otherProjectsLinks* settings [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148728 [18:49:14] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148728 (owner: 10Hoo man) [18:49:39] (03PS11) 10Hoo man: Provides a default to otherProjectsLinks configuration parameter [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/132613 (owner: 10Tpt) [18:50:03] (03PS1) 10Aude: Make hide/show changes toggle respectthe showExternalRecentChanges setting [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148732 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/68461) [18:50:45] (03CR) 10Hoo man: "Rebased" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/132613 (owner: 10Tpt) [18:51:00] (03CR) 10Aude: Make hide/show changes toggle respectthe showExternalRecentChanges setting (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148732 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/68461) (owner: 10Aude) [18:52:50] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Add documentation for the various otherProjectsLinks* settings [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148728 (owner: 10Hoo man) [18:53:39] (03PS2) 10Aude: Make hide/show changes toggle respect the showExternalRecentChanges setting [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148732 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/68461) [18:56:05] Hee GerardM- [18:56:39] Ga jij eigenlijk naar Wikimania dit jaar? [18:57:14] (03CR) 10Hoo man: Make hide/show changes toggle respect the showExternalRecentChanges setting (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148732 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/68461) (owner: 10Aude) [18:58:23] multichill ja [18:58:27] presenteer zelfs [18:58:50] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 04-1] "WIP, will be doing follow-up" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148732 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/68461) (owner: 10Aude) [18:58:59] ah, leuk, ik ook omdat Amir niet kan [19:01:25] ... blij dat jij er bent ... maar verdrietig dat hij niet mag [19:01:49] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148728 (owner: 10Hoo man) [19:05:53] (03CR) 10Aude: Make hide/show changes toggle respect the showExternalRecentChanges setting (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148732 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/68461) (owner: 10Aude) [19:10:36] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/132613 (owner: 10Tpt) [19:15:24] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148732 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/68461) (owner: 10Aude) [19:20:10] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148732 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/68461) (owner: 10Aude) [19:25:01] (03CR) 10Alex Monk: Turn WikibaseRepo::getRdfBaseURI into a setting (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148708 (owner: 10Hoo man) [19:38:52] Amir1: Speak of the devil! ;-) [19:40:35] the devil is here! [19:42:29] ! [19:44:28] multichill: I barely can understand, let me use Google translate [19:45:00] Amir1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speak_of_the_devil [19:45:15] Gerard and I were talking about you and Wikimania [19:46:04] Wikimania :o [19:46:06] Lydia_WMDE :p [19:46:15] No Farsi in there. You should add it Amir1! [19:46:45] multichill: I know about the devil, even though It's different in different cultures, In Persian we say that person was surely from his father! [19:46:58] I didn't know what you said to GerardM- [19:48:18] multichill: the thing is even though I was online buy I was afk, so I'm not really devil [19:48:36] *but [19:49:55] Amir1: Read the article I linked, it's a figure of speech [19:52:36] multichill: I just read and still I know, I was saying in Iran "when an object of discussion unexpectedly becomes present during the conversation" we say that person's father is really his father [19:53:00] makes me wonder when I'm talking behind someone's back and that person doesn't appear [20:11:18] (03CR) 10Hoo man: Turn WikibaseRepo::getRdfBaseURI into a setting (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148708 (owner: 10Hoo man) [20:25:16] (03PS3) 10Hashar: Add documentation for the various otherProjectsLinks* settings [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148728 (owner: 10Hoo man) [20:26:11] Lydia_WMDE, do you know about my question from yesterday, about there being a special page to insert a property directly? [20:26:19] multichill ik voeg nog steeds MePs toe [20:26:37] ... ook breid ik het aantal statements uit [20:27:06] weet jij wat er met de geidentificeerden in de lijst gebeurd ? [20:27:38] Lydia_WMDE, i would like to be able to do this on Wikipedia: [//wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q{{{Qnumber}}}&setproperty=P345&setvalue={{{imdb_id}}} Add to Wikidata now] [20:32:29] jhs [20:32:40] GerardM- [20:32:50] how do you get the associated values ? [20:33:09] because you can do it ... tools are available for it [20:33:19] in autolist2 and in toolscript [20:33:26] {{{imdb_id}}} you mean? i get it from the template {{imdb tittel}} on nowiki [20:33:42] Jhs: you can add the value via the API if you really wanted to [20:33:45] pywikibot does that easily [20:33:48] i have a category here with articles that have IMDb ids on nowiki but not on wikidata [20:33:49] https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategori:Artikler_som_har_IMDb_i_artikkel_men_ikke_p%C3%A5_Wikidata [20:33:51] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148728 (owner: 10Hoo man) [20:34:50] use pywikibot ... does it easily and well [20:35:32] hmm, but then i'll have to figure out how to use pywikibot since the move to github or gerrit or whatever... haven't been able to do that so far :P [20:36:05] could you use something like http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/quick_statements.php [20:36:12] also, i sort of need to check each and every one to avoid errors. quite a lot of the pages in that category use the template to link to a film some person has been in [20:36:20] Jhs: it's not really different, the source changed but codes not [20:36:48] it's different where you download it not what you are downloading [20:37:05] Amir1, yeah, i know, but last time i tried it ended in frustration.. but i'll give it another try ;) [20:37:19] !@#$% can someone explain why we have fixed descriptions that interfere with understanding what the !@#$% an item is about ? [20:37:42] Jhs: If you want, I can help you [20:37:43] generated descriptions are so superior [20:37:52] for start try using compat [20:38:12] (03CR) 10Hashar: [C: 032] "Zuul got broken" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148728 (owner: 10Hoo man) [20:38:49] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add documentation for the various otherProjectsLinks* settings [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148728 (owner: 10Hoo man) [20:40:50] nobody ? [20:41:09] ANY reason ? [20:42:01] ? [20:42:35] Amir1, i'll pm you so we don't bother everyone else :) [20:45:14] why fixed descriptions? they are in the way they are too limited [20:45:19] they are a pest [20:45:34] to be avoided at all cost [20:55:08] http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2014/07/wikidata-let-us-get-rid-of-fixed.html [21:02:57] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148825 (owner: 10L10n-bot) [21:04:53] thought as much ... so I moved that conversation to the chat [21:05:14] ... when there are no convincing arguments I will make it an RFC [21:06:30] why do we have fixed descriptions? because of the software, because they give a basic overview for all entities etc [21:06:46] the first reason is no reason [21:06:57] the software gets changed all the time [21:07:05] they do not give an overview [21:07:22] entities ? We do not have entities [21:07:35] we have items statements descriptions [21:07:46] 1. The software may get changed all the time - but a rewrite to suit Wikidata only? Doubt it. [21:07:49] and some of it is ballast [21:07:51] 2. They do [21:07:58] how [21:08:01] 3. Everything is an entity. [21:08:11] yeah right [21:08:43] and the functionality to generate auto descriptions can be made part of the code [21:09:31] everybody is full of shit (it is healthy that way) [21:09:51] so right now a description will go from 'British Politican' to 'Occupation: Member of Parliment, Born xxx, Image xxx, Full name xxx, etc.' [21:10:16] the British part can be added as well [21:10:27] there is no statement for it in the example [21:10:52] What I'm trying to say is; it's fixed or it is nothing. [21:11:28] what I am saying is; it is fixed and it is useless [21:11:33] A description should be a configurable overview of the entity not all the statements pushed into 1 line otherwise it becomes a disfigured Wikipedia article. [21:11:39] nothing is about the same [21:12:11] configurable means not fixed [21:12:16] so I can live with that [21:12:28] well then descriptions are not fixed right now. [21:12:34] but it does not work in other languages [21:12:42] It does. [21:12:54] realistically ? [21:13:03] most languages do NOT have descriptions [21:13:14] do NOT have sufficient labels [21:13:19] Who's fault is that then? The communities or the development teams? [21:13:31] time spend on descriptions takes away from labelling [21:13:47] ultimately it is architecture [21:13:48] The community. So the community can fix it instead of forcing the dev team to change the software to fix something the community isn't doing. [21:14:07] that is such a balony argument [21:14:14] No, it is not. [21:14:20] it is not hard to remove descriptions totally [21:14:53] Oh I see, we can't get users to edit descriptions so lets remove them and make every 'John Smith' the same! Good idea. [21:18:44] no john add statements and they are no longer the same [21:19:05] an architecture where unrealistic assumptions exist is wrong [21:19:56] but if we use statements; will that not making search more difficult as every 'John Smith' will just be a John Smith? [21:20:31] search results will show auto descriptions it already does for me [21:21:44] but how will these 'auto descriptions' be generated? [21:22:16] they already are ... so what is your point [21:22:29] I mean by the software as you suggest. [21:23:44] have to go am back in hour and a half [21:24:36] The automated descriptions are more usefull than the normal ones. [21:25:14] sjoerddebruin: but they are provided by a script/tool am I correct? [21:25:19] Yeah. [21:25:37] and is said tool/script hardcoded for Wikidata? [21:26:08] I use a script on Wikipedia that displays Wikidata-results and also the automated descriptions. [21:26:37] But I haven't tested it on other sites that uses Wikibase. [21:26:59] (that's what you talking about?) [21:27:03] sjoerddebruin: how does is generate the descriptions though? does it like for P1, P2 but not P3 etc. [21:27:22] and display P1 and P2 in the descript but not P3 even if it is there? [21:27:34] It filters the relevant things I think. [21:27:55] how does it tell what is relevant though :) [21:28:26] It's just a list of relevant properties [21:28:32] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Wdsearch-autodesc.js [21:28:37] Under "describeGeneric : function ( q , claims , opt ) {" [21:28:55] exactly. [21:29:13] That can not be integrated into the core software as Gerard wants as it is. [21:30:19] Not easy. [21:30:34] The property suggester is pretty smart. [21:30:43] Make it smarter and it can be used for this. [21:31:00] Property suggester is like AI; it learns of correlations :) [21:31:15] Add statements and it gets smarter. :) [21:31:55] Now it gives me a highway-property when I'm editing a national park. [21:32:21] indeed [21:32:48] But that only happens when all the relevant properties are already added. :) [21:34:08] P442 is annoying though [21:35:20] btw, is there a way to show the property numbers in the suggester etc.? [21:48:32] JohnLewis: The property suggester only looks at the properties now, huh? [22:02:32] sjoerddebruin: It looks at items and creates a correlation of properties [22:02:50] Yeah, I hope it will look at the content soon. [22:24:07] (03Abandoned) 10Aude: Restructure parser function code [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/145572 (owner: 10Aude)