[01:27:37] <huh>	 If a database is copyrighted under CC-BY-NC-ND can I add a statement using it as a source?
[06:08:39] <Nemo_bis>	 (yes)
[08:04:37] <Lydia_WMDE>	 anyone around who speaks russian and could check https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q316&diff=142517874&oldid=141732340 ?
[09:37:08] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseQueryEngine/base-dvh/14363ea : Thiemo Mättig The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseQueryEngine/builds/29190927
[10:00:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10WikidataBuilder: New Wikidata Build - 05/07/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/144259 
[10:12:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/144259 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder)
[10:25:30] <gh-wmde>	 [13DataTypes] 15thiemowmde comment on pull request #20 14acbad89: Strong oppose. What's wrong with `normal`? And how is this related to a jQuery update? 02http://git.io/glC6XQ
[10:37:17] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseQuery] 15thiemowmde 04force-pushed 06mw from 14508eaa4 to 14c1fa061: 02http://git.io/e0yRrg
[10:37:17] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseQuery/06mw 14c1fa061 15jeroendedauw: Update min MW version
[10:39:08] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseQuery/mw/c1fa061 : jeroendedauw The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseQuery/builds/29193489
[10:42:01] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseQuery] 15thiemowmde 04force-pushed 06travisPHPversions from 14a008408 to 14f17c60a: 02http://git.io/c0J-lw
[10:42:01] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseQuery/06travisPHPversions 14f17c60a 15addshore: Also test hhvm on travis
[10:42:52] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseQuery] 15thiemowmde closed pull request #22: Update min MW version (06master...06mw) 02http://git.io/6L2msw
[10:43:56] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseQuery/travisPHPversions/f17c60a : addshore The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseQuery/builds/29193661
[11:52:28] <addshore>	 Lydia_WMDE! :O
[11:52:36] <Lydia_WMDE>	 addshore: !!!
[11:52:37] <Lydia_WMDE>	 :D
[11:52:39] <Lydia_WMDE>	 wasup?
[11:52:42] <addshore>	 http://histropedia.uat.co:8080/ nom!
[11:52:53] <addshore>	 uses wikidata ;p thought youd like to see it! :)
[11:53:14] * Lydia_WMDE looks
[11:53:59] <Lydia_WMDE>	 nice
[11:55:11] <addshore>	 indeed :P
[11:55:52] <Lydia_WMDE>	 how's the hackathon going?
[11:56:06] <addshore>	 good :) still going though the talks now :)
[11:56:23] <addshore>	 whats the time link for pubsubhubbub?
[11:56:25] <addshore>	 *line
[11:56:58] <Lydia_WMDE>	 totally depends on wmf review and ops
[11:57:05] <Lydia_WMDE>	 it is kinda out of our hands atm
[11:57:53] <addshore>	 kk =]
[12:10:02] <JohnLewis>	 Lydia_WMDE: The summary is actually going out today for the first time in two weeks. Just a heads up for you to do what you do :p
[12:10:21] <Lydia_WMDE>	 JohnLewis: waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah :P
[12:10:45] <Lydia_WMDE>	 i'll finish one other thing and then get on it
[12:11:58] <JohnLewis>	 kk
[12:25:06] <hoo>	 hi benestar :)
[12:25:32] <benestar>	 hoo: hi :)
[12:25:57] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseQueryEngine/latlong-where/01faac9 : Thiemo Mättig The build is still failing. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseQueryEngine/builds/29197054
[12:31:17] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15JeroenDeDauw comment on pull request #82 145e79c92: How does that change anything? 02http://git.io/BdouVA
[12:47:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 04-1] "Still some mistakes to fix but almost there." (035 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/143863 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[14:05:56] <addshore>	 Lydia_WMDE: !
[14:06:04] <Lydia_WMDE>	 addshore: !
[14:06:10] <addshore>	 KDE man is here :)
[14:06:13] <Lydia_WMDE>	 :D
[14:06:17] <Lydia_WMDE>	 john?
[14:06:27] <Lydia_WMDE>	 i told him to say hi to you
[14:07:29] <addshore>	 hehe
[14:07:41] <Amir1>	 Lydia_WMDE: Hi, about implementing UnconnectedPages in API, there is wrapper in mediawiki core that returns query special pages into api, e.g. this api call 
[14:07:43] <Amir1>	 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=querypage&qppage=Uncategorizedpages&format=jsonfm
[14:08:29] <Amir1>	 I don't know why it can't be ran for extension-based special pages (I'm new to this area, so correct me if I'm wrong)
[14:08:54] <addshore>	 :O
[14:08:57] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Amir1: i don't know tbh. one of the devs will have to look at it
[14:09:21] <Amir1>	 thank you
[14:10:18] <Amir1>	 another thing: Can I help for badges? I hate {{Link GA}} and {{Link FA}} as much as I hate interwiki
[14:14:10] <Lydia_WMDE>	 bene* will be in the office next week and this is one thing we want to work on. we'll see what is left after next week and make a list :)
[14:17:15] <addshore>	 tata again for now!
[14:17:32] <Lydia_WMDE>	 tata
[14:17:41] <Lydia_WMDE>	 have fun :)
[14:20:12] <Amir1>	 ok
[14:30:11] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/6c52hg
[14:30:11] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06master 145347491 15Jeroen De Dauw: Update README.md
[14:31:46] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/o67I_A
[14:31:46] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06master 14fa0e387 15Jeroen De Dauw: Update README.md
[14:33:31] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/kpZWhw
[14:33:31] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06master 144d58425 15Jeroen De Dauw: Update .travis.yml
[14:35:32] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/dLLq4A
[14:35:32] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06master 1440ac383 15Jeroen De Dauw: Update .travis.yml
[14:35:52] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/zWPHTA
[14:35:52] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06master 1479e7633 15Jeroen De Dauw: Update README.md
[14:43:22] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/DA8d_Q
[14:43:22] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06master 146efb59a 15Jeroen De Dauw: Update README.md
[15:05:23] <Krenair>	 The page at 'https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Krenair' was loaded over HTTPS, but is submitting data to an insecure location at 'javascript:;': this content should also be submitted over HTTPS.
[15:05:25] <Krenair>	 hm :/
[15:17:07] <lazowik>	 hey
[15:19:07] <hoo>	 hi lazowik :)
[16:22:39] <Nemo_bis>	 Krenair: did you fix that? surely some gadget I hope
[16:23:16] <Krenair>	 didn't look into it, tbh
[16:23:40] <Krenair>	 sounds more like a chrome bug - 'javascript:;' is an insecure URL...?
[16:23:59] <Krenair>	 And I'm running the dev branch, so...
[16:24:41] <Nemo_bis>	 Ah :)
[16:55:33] <peteforsyth3>	 I have a couple questions:
[16:55:49] <peteforsyth3>	 (1) Is it possible to add a Meta Wiki page to a Wikidata entry?
[16:57:53] <peteforsyth3>	 (2) When first creating a Wikidata entry from the left hand navigation "add links" link, it's not possible to add a page from Commons, as far as I can tell -- typing "commons" in the "lanugage" field does not autofill. Is there a workaround, or is this a known bug..?
[17:24:13] <Krenair>	 peteforsyth, why would you want to add a meta wiki page to one...?
[17:24:55] <peteforsyth>	 I take it that is a no?
[17:26:02] <peteforsyth>	 Krenair I expect there are a number of places where it could be useful. In this instance, I was going to create links between the pages for the monthly Wikimedia Foundation metrics & activities meetings, and the related Commons categories of photos and slides from each meeting.
[17:26:27] <peteforsyth>	 But my question is a more general one, I'd like to understand how Wikidata is set up.
[17:26:47] <peteforsyth>	 Is it restricted to the wikis listed explicitly when you start a page, or are there ways to add other Wikimedia wikis?
[17:27:29] <peteforsyth>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q17317086
[17:28:53] <peteforsyth>	 Another example where this might be useful is the GLAM pages on enwp, other Wikipedias, Wikisource, Commons..and also Meta and Outreach wikis
[17:34:37] <Coyau>	 Hi, I'm looking for an !admin
[17:34:56] <JohnLewis>	 Coyau: Hi
[17:35:17] <Coyau>	 I need something deleted
[17:35:24] <JohnLewis>	 Coyau: Sure
[17:35:31] <JohnLewis>	 link?
[17:38:09] <Coyau>	 thanks :)
[17:44:06] <Lydia_WMDE>	 peteforsyth: not possible to link meta pages yet but it will be in the future
[17:44:39] <Lydia_WMDE>	 everything you can add so far is on the page
[17:44:56] <peteforsyth>	 thank you Lydia_WMDE
[17:45:10] <peteforsyth>	 are you aware of issue #2? I couold file a bug if helpful
[17:46:29] <Lydia_WMDE>	 yeah please file a bug. i was not aware of that
[17:50:26] <peteforsyth>	 OK will do.
[18:33:59] <peteforsyth>	 Lydia_WMDE
[18:34:09] <peteforsyth>	 I entered a bug: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67553
[18:34:15] <peteforsyth>	 It may need some help :)
[18:42:00] <JohnLewis>	 peteforsyth: tagged stuff correctly
[18:53:15] <peteforsyth>	 thanks johnlewis
[18:56:37] <gh-datavalues>	 [13Interfaces] 15JeroenDeDauw pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/1O_VYQ
[18:56:37] <gh-datavalues>	 13Interfaces/06master 14c6c993a 15Jeroen De Dauw: Update Interfaces.php
[18:59:14] <JeroenDeDauw>	 It's a JohnLewis 
[18:59:35] <JohnLewis>	 JeroenDeDauw: Nice cat you forced Lydia to add btw
[19:00:15] <hoo>	 aude: :P It took me quite some time today... but I now again have a neat VM for Wikibase tests with SQLite and MySQL :)
[19:01:48] <benestar>	 JeroenDeDauw: btw how did you force her?
[19:02:08] <JeroenDeDauw>	 benestar: mind control
[19:02:14] <benestar>	 lol
[19:02:18] <JohnLewis>	 benestar: He showed her the cat she went 'awh!' and added it.
[19:02:27] <benestar>	 hoo: you'll be in Berlin next week, too?
[19:02:44] <hoo>	 Sure, from Tuesday evening on ;)
[19:02:50] <benestar>	 \o/
[19:02:53] <JeroenDeDauw>	 JohnLewis: hah
[19:13:37] <lazowik>	 wait!
[19:13:39] <lazowik>	 what cat?
[19:13:42] <lazowik>	 where?
[19:20:15] <JohnLewis>	 lazowik: wikidata-tech :p
[19:20:31] <lazowik>	 list?
[19:20:46] <lazowik>	 or is that a channel?
[19:21:36] <benestar>	 lazowik: list
[19:22:07] <benestar>	 lazowik: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata-l/2014-July/004190.html
[19:23:22] <lazowik>	 haha, got it
[19:23:23] <lazowik>	 :D
[19:23:45] <lazowik>	 hehe, had to send with monospaced font :)
[19:25:25] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseQuery] 15JeroenDeDauw created 06instcli (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/kGvlyw
[19:25:25] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseQuery/06instcli 14ea56afb 15jeroendedauw: Add CLI commands for installing and uninstalling the SQLStore
[19:26:32] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseQuery] 15JeroenDeDauw opened pull request #35: Add CLI commands for installing and uninstalling the SQLStore (06master...06instcli) 02http://git.io/iBAv1A
[19:29:15] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseQuery/instcli/ea56afb : jeroendedauw The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseQuery/builds/29213421
[19:30:28] <JeroenDeDauw>	 hoo: you want to merge the fancy CLI stuff https://github.com/wmde/WikibaseQuery/pull/35
[19:30:39] <lazowik>	 hoo: don't!
[19:30:43] <lazowik>	 let him bribe you!
[19:31:00] <JeroenDeDauw>	 lazowik: what? You don't want a CLI that supports an animated NyanCat?
[19:31:13] <lazowik>	 oh, that's a bribe in itself
[19:34:20] <hoo>	 JeroenDeDauw: Looks good, but I don't think I can sign it off (I don't understand why you would need to uninstall it, also I don't see why we can't do that with MediaWiki)
[19:36:55] <JeroenDeDauw>	 hoo: how would you do this with MediaWiki?
[19:39:37] <JeroenDeDauw>	 hoo: the reason to uninstall it is to be able to install it again when something got fucked up
[19:40:00] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Or when we made breaking changes in the schema and are to lazy to already write migration code
[19:42:43] <hoo>	 JeroenDeDauw: I think you can have arbitrary code run in update.php via a hook
[19:43:01] <hoo>	 ok, uninstalling makes sense then, but could also be a MW maint. script
[19:44:42] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15mariushoch created 06PropertyNotFoundExceptionTestGroup (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/QT3S7Q
[19:44:42] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06PropertyNotFoundExceptionTestGroup 14450798b 15Marius Hoch: Remoe @group WikibaseLib from PropertyNotFoundExceptionTest
[19:45:17] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15mariushoch opened pull request #121: Remove @group WikibaseLib from PropertyNotFoundExceptionTest (06master...06PropertyNotFoundExceptionTestGroup) 02http://git.io/aCpvMQ
[19:46:08] <JeroenDeDauw>	 hoo: you did not need to submit that as a PR, just push to master
[19:46:27] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw 04deleted 06PropertyNotFoundExceptionTestGroup at 14450798b: 02http://git.io/3dGBfA
[19:46:40] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseDataModel/PropertyNotFoundExceptionTestGroup/450798b : Marius Hoch The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/builds/29214195
[19:46:52] <hoo>	 JeroenDeDauw: True, that one really was trivial :P
[19:56:59] <JeroenDeDauw>	 hoo: so is my CLI one. Merge merge merge
[19:57:24] <JeroenDeDauw>	 hoo: oh you replied
[19:58:01] <JeroenDeDauw>	 hoo: yes, this could also be a MW maintenance script. The Console component sucks less though
[19:58:11] <JeroenDeDauw>	 And we already have it in Query anyway
[19:58:21] <JeroenDeDauw>	 So its nice to have all the commands in the same CLI app
[19:58:51] <hoo>	 Sure, but I'm totally not a fan of using an external cli lib. for stuff in production
[19:58:57] <hoo>	 not an issue now
[19:59:02] <hoo>	 but might become one
[19:59:46] <JeroenDeDauw>	 hoo: in what way to you think this would be an issue?
[19:59:51] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseQuery] 15mariushoch 04deleted 06instcli at 14ea56afb: 02http://git.io/Y4ECQA
[20:00:41] <hoo>	 JeroenDeDauw: Needs more thorough code review, as underlying code is no known... also how does it init MediaWiki stuff in the back
[20:00:52] <JeroenDeDauw>	 hahaha
[20:00:56] <JeroenDeDauw>	 you want to see that part
[20:00:58] <JeroenDeDauw>	 very silly
[20:01:01] <JeroenDeDauw>	 silly MW
[20:01:12] <JeroenDeDauw>	 https://github.com/wmde/WikibaseQuery/blob/master/querycli
[20:01:31] <JeroenDeDauw>	 That's the most sane I've found so far
[20:01:54] <JeroenDeDauw>	 hoo: this CLI lib happens to be used thousands of times more than MW itself
[20:02:09] <JeroenDeDauw>	 It's in Symfony by default and is what stuff such as PHPUnit uses ;p
[20:02:27] <JeroenDeDauw>	 I trust that a lot more than the crappy MW code
[20:05:10] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseQuery] 15JeroenDeDauw pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/qH43Xw
[20:05:10] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseQuery/06master 14f3fcca2 15Jeroen De Dauw: Update README.md
[20:06:25] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseQuery] 15JeroenDeDauw pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/muzx1g
[20:06:25] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseQuery/06master 14a555cae 15Jeroen De Dauw: Update README.md
[20:06:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/144319 (owner: 10L10n-bot)
[20:07:09] <hoo>	 JeroenDeDauw: If WMF signed of on that component, I don't mind... Maintenance class does some things it shouldn't (quite wtf, why are they there), but despite of that it's ok
[20:07:30] <hoo>	 * off
[21:52:15] <lazowik>	 JohnLewis: hey
[21:52:19] <lazowik>	 there is this thing
[21:52:34] <lazowik>	 you just copy weekly summary to email?
[21:52:47] <JohnLewis>	 lazowik: Hm?
[21:53:02] <lazowik>	 (I have strange feeling that I told you that already)
[21:53:09] <lazowik>	 you have visited links there
[21:53:14] <lazowik>	 so they are in this color
[21:53:19] <lazowik>	 similiar to black
[21:53:25] <lazowik>	 and barely visible
[21:53:26] <JohnLewis>	 Ah.
[21:53:43] <lazowik>	 might want to copy from private tab, then they should be blue
[21:53:56] <JohnLewis>	 lazowik: I will do in future :)
[21:54:09] <lazowik>	 ok, great :)