[02:03:17] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15atdt opened pull request #120: Don't rely on assert() to bail on assertion failure (06master...06master) 02http://git.io/_oXchA
[08:22:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: Check for redirect before calling getEntity(). (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/139390 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66030) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[08:23:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS6) 10Daniel Kinzler: Check for redirect before calling getEntity(). [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/139390 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66030) 
[08:25:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): "Ok, some questions are done after discussion. I marked them as done. Still some issues unfortunately." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/139830 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66073) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[08:30:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/139390 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66030) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[08:32:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS44) 10Daniel Kinzler: Implement redirects in ItemContent [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134379 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57744) 
[08:32:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS7) 10Daniel Kinzler: Check for redirect before calling getEntity(). [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/139390 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66030) 
[08:41:04] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseQueryEngine/deduplication/e9c2cc0 : Thiemo Mättig The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseQueryEngine/builds/27844550
[08:42:43] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134379 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57744) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[08:46:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: Allow creation of redirects via EntityStore. (033 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/139830 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66073) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[08:47:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/139390 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66030) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[08:49:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS6) 10Daniel Kinzler: Allow creation of redirects via EntityStore. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/139830 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66073) 
[08:49:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Don't pass the User around as a parameter [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140318 
[08:50:12] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS7) 10Daniel Kinzler: Allow creation of redirects via EntityStore. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/139830 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66073) 
[08:52:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "@Thiemo: the new code is covered because it re-implements existing functionality: the undo action, which is already covered by the tests. " [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140175 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[08:53:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 032] Cleanup SubmitEntityAction [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140175 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[08:54:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Cleanup SubmitEntityAction [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140175 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[09:00:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-1] "Several notes:" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/139768 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64600) (owner: 10Legoktm)
[09:01:48] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/139830 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66073) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[09:07:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140318 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[09:12:17] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/139830 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66073) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[09:12:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Drop pointless null check [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140154 
[09:14:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Aude: Fix 'Wikibase\SiteLinkTable' not found error in dispatchChanges [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140320 
[09:14:51] <aude>	 Tobi_WMDE: ^
[09:21:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Abandoned) 10Tobias Gritschacher: New Wikidata Build - 17/06/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140076 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder)
[09:22:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Abandoned) 10Tobias Gritschacher: New Wikidata Build - 16/06/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/139801 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder)
[09:24:43] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Adrian Lang: Move JS datamodel to wikibase/data-model-javascript [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140322 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66418) 
[09:27:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140154 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[09:28:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: Allow different sharding-formats in dumpJson (033 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/139367 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[09:28:49] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-1] "Unhappy with the naming of the snippet option." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/139367 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[09:29:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "To clarify: we may want to use a snippet mode when combining dumps of different types of entities, or from different repose, etc. This has" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/139367 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[09:32:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 032] Cleanup TermBoxView a bit [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/139911 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[09:32:49] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Cleanup TermBoxView a bit [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/139911 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[09:32:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140320 (owner: 10Aude)
[09:37:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140322 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66418) (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[09:37:24] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Drop pointless null check and type hint [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140154 
[09:40:53] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Don't pass the User around as a parameter [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140318 
[09:48:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140154 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[09:52:24] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140318 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[10:00:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10WikidataBuilder: New Wikidata Build - 18/06/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140325 
[10:08:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140322 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66418) (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[10:12:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140322 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66418) (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[10:13:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140325 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder)
[10:15:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 031] "Almost +2, just a question." (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/139390 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66030) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[10:23:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 032] Check for redirect before calling getEntity(). (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/139390 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66030) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[10:27:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] "Yeah, this is really its own application." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140320 (owner: 10Aude)
[10:29:31] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Adrian_WMDE: why did you use 0.1 rather than 1.0?
[10:29:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Move JS datamodel to wikibase/data-model-javascript [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140322 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66418) (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[10:29:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS6) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Deprecate EntityFactory [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/138130 
[10:31:23] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Adrian_WMDE: *moved, not removed?
[10:34:23] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw closed pull request #120: Don't rely on assert() to bail on assertion failure (06master...06master) 02http://git.io/_oXchA
[10:34:50] <Adrian_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw: I thought we might try to line it up with wikibase/data-model version numbers once the JS is up to date with the PHP version
[10:37:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/138130 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[12:22:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): "Combining different dumps can't work that way. You will never end with a valid JSON blob. The first one needs an opening "[", all but the " [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/139367 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[12:28:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 04-1] "Can you mark the resolved items as done, and make it clear that you did not resolve all of them yet. I do not want to see this merged when" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134379 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57744) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[12:28:34] <GerardM->	 Lydia_WMDE: according to the mail of Magnus, the automated descriptions should work ... it does not at my end
[12:31:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Jeroen De Dauw: WIP stop using deprecated methods in EntityChange [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/139610 
[12:32:30] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Tobi_WMDE: I can haz easy review? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/139607/
[12:32:58] <JeroenDeDauw>	 aude: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66632
[12:33:26] <Tobi_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw: guess I'll not have time to look at that today
[12:33:29] <aude>	 my wiki is currently brken, so not right now
[12:33:34] <Tobi_WMDE>	 so if anybody else can
[12:39:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/139610 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[12:44:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 031] DispatchStats API: Output a ISO 8601 formatted timestamp [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/138306 (owner: 10Legoktm)
[12:44:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Addshore: "An email / note should be sent out about this breaking change." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/138306 (owner: 10Legoktm)
[12:45:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "I don't get how this is a breaking change. Is this used in the web API?? Evil static spaghetti..." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/138306 (owner: 10Legoktm)
[12:47:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] "If no one cares, I guess this is good." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/138130 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[12:47:18] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Deprecate EntityFactory [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/138130 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[12:51:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS9) 10Addshore: Refacatoring MwTimeIsoFormatter [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130658 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[12:51:48] <aude>	 it's an addshore!
[12:52:45] <aude>	 it's an addshore! :)
[12:52:51] <addshore>	 =o
[12:52:54] <addshore>	 oh hello!
[12:53:13] <hoo>	 hi addshore :)
[12:53:19] <addshore>	 hi aude!
[12:53:22] <addshore>	 hi hoo!
[12:53:40] <JeroenDeDauw>	 addshore is alive
[12:53:47] <addshore>	 oh hello JeroenDeDauw!
[12:55:36] <addshore>	 oh so much sun here :>
[12:55:41] <aude>	 :)
[12:55:59] <JeroenDeDauw>	 addshore: back to the basement!
[12:56:24] <hoo>	 aude: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q60 there aren't any references to reorder there AFAIS
[12:56:34] <aude>	 hoo: within the reference
[12:56:45] <aude>	 the snaks should be reorderable
[12:57:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Adrian Lang: Correctly resolve entityselector::search's promise [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140342 
[12:57:18] <aude>	 i want date of publication atove publisher
[12:57:21] <aude>	 how do i do that?
[12:57:29] <aude>	 w/o having to remove and readd them
[12:57:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Adrian Lang: Make entityselector tests actually test user input [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140343 
[12:57:58] <hoo>	 Ah, I see what you mean
[12:58:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Make entityselector tests actually test user input [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140343 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[12:58:17] <aude>	 it's annoying if i put them in the wrong order from what i prefer
[12:58:25] <hoo>	 thought the issue was to reorder multiple references
[12:58:28] <aude>	 nope
[12:58:51] <aude>	 i don't know if this ever worked, but was broken since end of may at least
[12:58:55] <aude>	 has been
[13:00:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Adrian Lang: Make entityselector tests actually test user input [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140343 
[13:03:46] <addshore>	 Tobi_WMDE: loads of warnings at the start of our jenkins tests :O
[13:04:05] <addshore>	 about all the skins :P
[13:04:12] * aude finds cirrus bug
[13:04:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Adrian Lang: Don't automatically select entity's on alias match in suggester [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140344 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66748) 
[13:04:39] <aude>	 for once, someone else's bug 
[13:04:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Don't automatically select entity's on alias match in suggester [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140344 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66748) (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[13:04:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130658 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[13:05:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 032] Refacatoring MwTimeIsoFormatter [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130658 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[13:05:43] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Refacatoring MwTimeIsoFormatter [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130658 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[13:07:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Adrian Lang: Don't automatically select entity's on alias match in suggester [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140344 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66748) 
[13:13:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): MWException is part of the EntityContent::getEntity interface [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140347 
[13:18:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140342 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[13:28:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140343 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[13:29:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Don't pass the User around as a parameter [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140318 
[13:35:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Daniel Kinzler: Hide (De)SerializerFactory on the app level. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140351 
[13:35:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Daniel Kinzler: Make internal storage format configurable [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140352 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66784) 
[13:37:10] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 Tobi_WMDE, Lydia_WMDE: please add to sprint: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66784
[13:38:08] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 should really be in the old sprint, but...
[13:40:18] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 hey brion! Up early? or is that just your digital ghost haunting us?
[13:43:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140343 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[13:43:06] <brion>	 *yawn* gmorning
[13:51:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140344 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66748) (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[13:56:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140344 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66748) (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[14:01:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 04-1] "see comment" (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140352 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66784) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[14:01:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140347 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[14:06:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140318 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[14:06:40] * DanielK_WMDE_ hands brion some stroopwafel
[14:07:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): "Looks good for me (except for what Aude found). Feel free to +2." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140352 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66784) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[14:08:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 031] "+2! Just want to give the team a little time to look at this. Feel free to merge." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140351 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[14:08:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: "no default setting in the client?" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140352 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66784) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[14:11:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140351 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[14:15:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140352 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66784) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[14:18:06] <aude>	 oh noes, "An old copy of the MonoBook skin was found in your skins/ directory" ;)
[14:18:13] <aude>	 and cologne blue
[14:20:09] <Reedy>	 DELETE
[14:20:09] <Reedy>	 DELETE
[14:20:11] <Reedy>	 DELETE
[14:20:14] <aude>	 :)
[14:20:40] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 EXTERMINATE
[14:22:13] <hoo>	 Reedy: That's about how I feel atm setting up an OEM windows pc for my cousin... delete all the bloat apps -.-
[14:22:18] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Daniel Kinzler: Make internal storage format configurable [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140352 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66784) 
[14:22:26] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 aude, Thiemo_WMDE --^
[14:22:31] <aude>	 k
[14:23:24] <aude>	 das ist verboten!
[14:23:44] <hoo>	 aude: Was ist verboten?
[14:24:01] <aude>	 entity serialization in the client
[14:24:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Fix bits in MwTimeIsoFormatter [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140369 
[14:24:49] <hoo>	 new ForbiddenSerializer
[14:24:50] <hoo>	 hehe
[14:25:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): "Oh, this is a direct follow-up to I2490c9ca26824b5b0a312044f19efb93616f0597. Hey, Addshore! Owe you a review chocolate." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140369 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[14:33:12] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 04-1] "phpunit still complaining" (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140352 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66784) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[14:34:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140352 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66784) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[14:39:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140369 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[14:40:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Daniel Kinzler: Make internal storage format configurable [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140352 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66784) 
[14:47:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 032] Fix bits in MwTimeIsoFormatter [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140369 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[14:47:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix bits in MwTimeIsoFormatter [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140369 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[14:48:24] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140352 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66784) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[14:50:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Daniel Kinzler: Make internal storage format configurable [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140352 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66784) 
[14:51:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: "'internalEntitySerializerClass' => null can be added for the test jenkins is complaining about" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140352 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66784) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[14:52:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: Make internal storage format configurable (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140352 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66784) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[14:52:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: "comments in patch 3, but still apply" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140352 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66784) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[14:53:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: "also, the legacy thing will fail spectacularly once we switch to data model 1.0" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140352 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66784) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[14:57:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Daniel Kinzler: Make internal storage format configurable [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140352 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66784) 
[15:00:12] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 031] "I don't fully understand the intention of the old code. But the new code looks good." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140343 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[15:02:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140352 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66784) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[15:07:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140352 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66784) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[15:17:45] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15thiemowmde created 06promise (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/3eoczA
[15:17:45] <gh-wmde>	 13ValueView/06promise 14a282c05 15Thiemo Mättig: Fix incomplete promise documentation
[15:18:41] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15thiemowmde opened pull request #73: Fix incomplete promise documentation (06master...06promise) 02http://git.io/dDEd-g
[15:21:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 032] "Trivial change, hard to understand and not correctly documented, unfortunately, see https://github.com/wmde/ValueView/pull/73" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140342 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[15:21:37] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15mariushoch pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/GXdaAg
[15:21:37] <gh-wmde>	 13ValueView/06master 14c8b3c9b 15Marius Hoch: Merge pull request #73 from wmde/promise...
[15:21:46] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15mariushoch 04deleted 06promise at 14a282c05: 02http://git.io/89Gtog
[15:22:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Correctly resolve entityselector::search's promise [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140342 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[15:24:54] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 hoo: somebody want to look at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/140343/2 ? i'm just merging it otherwise.
[15:25:47] <hoo>	 Thiemo_WMDE: If it works, merge it
[15:27:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Hide (De)SerializerFactory on the app level. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140351 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[15:27:24] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Hide (De)SerializerFactory on the app level. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140351 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[15:29:18] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] "looks good" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140352 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66784) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[15:29:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Make internal storage format configurable [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140352 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66784) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[15:33:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "@Jeroen: One or two have open questions to you. I fixed all that seemed relevant and feasible. So, if you answer the questions, we can go " [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134379 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57744) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[15:33:39] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 JeroenDeDauw: --^
[15:33:58] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 JeroenDeDauw: it would be helpful if you would identify the issues you consider blockers, btw
[15:45:09] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 what the g**** f**** is this c****????????????? ReferenceError: evilsSeed is not defined
[15:45:46] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 i wasted a day last week with this and still have no idea what it means.
[15:47:10] <JohnLewis>	 'evilsSeed' sounds like something JeroenDeDauw would have named
[15:47:17] <aude>	 ah
[15:47:18] <aude>	 hah
[15:49:10] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 did i mentioned that i hate firefox? the clear cache feature is completely fucked up.
[15:50:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 032] "Thanks to the fucked up caching in Mozilla Firefox another 30 minutes paid developers time got wasted. Great." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140343 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[15:51:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Make entityselector tests actually test user input [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140343 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[15:59:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 032] Don't automatically select entity's on alias match in suggester [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140344 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66748) (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[15:59:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Don't automatically select entity's on alias match in suggester [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140344 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66748) (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[16:11:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS6) 10Daniel Kinzler: Convert legacy format on export [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140366 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66719) 
[16:13:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 04-1] Convert legacy format on export (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140366 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66719) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[16:16:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140366 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66719) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[16:18:57] <hoo>	 Lydia_WMDE: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66790 mh
[16:21:09] <Lydia_WMDE>	 hoo: hmm?
[16:21:17] <hoo>	 Lydia_WMDE: Reopen?
[16:21:32] <aude>	 the other languages thing?
[16:21:43] <hoo>	 aude: it's a known thing?
[16:21:52] <aude>	 not that i know
[16:22:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS7) 10Daniel Kinzler: Convert legacy format on export [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140366 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66719) 
[16:23:06] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 aude: --^
[16:23:26] <Lydia_WMDE>	 hoo: hmmmm yeah if it is still happening please reopen
[16:23:55] <hoo>	 Ok, will try to verify myself first
[16:24:19] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 Thiemo_WMDE: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/140366/
[16:30:03] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 Lydia_WMDE, hoo: iirc, "nn" is somehow special. John would know...
[16:30:37] <Lydia_WMDE>	 i see
[16:31:00] <hoo>	 mh, it's one of these obsolete codes, right?
[16:31:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 04-1] Convert legacy format on export (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140366 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66719) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[16:31:08] <aude>	 i thought "no" was
[16:31:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140366 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66719) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[16:31:15] <hoo>	 mh
[16:31:35] <aude>	 maybe "nn" also
[16:31:36] <Stryn>	 no / nb was
[16:31:38] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 or maybe not. not quite sure. i thought it was an alias code, but from a quick look, it doesn't seem like it is
[16:31:50] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 Stryn: ah, that's what I was thinking of, then
[16:39:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: Convert legacy format on export (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140366 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66719) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[16:40:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS8) 10Daniel Kinzler: Convert legacy format on export [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140366 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66719) 
[16:41:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "CR-1 because of pending discussion regarding regexp performance." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140366 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66719) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[16:49:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140366 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66719) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[16:49:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Fix unit tests for non-English wikis [extensions/Capiunto] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140399 
[16:49:51] <hoo>	 aude: Thiemo_WMDE: --^ easy peasy CR
[16:50:52] <aude>	 if jenkins is happy, then looks good
[16:51:34] <hoo>	 it is :)
[16:53:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Fix unit tests for non-English wikis [extensions/Capiunto] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140399 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[16:54:03] <hoo>	 :)
[16:54:16] <hoo>	 Do we have it on our test instances now, btw?
[16:55:24] <aude>	 after we put the entity/property suggester on, we can add it
[16:55:34] * aude sorted out the queries to run on master again
[16:55:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix unit tests for non-English wikis [extensions/Capiunto] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140399 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[17:12:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS9) 10Daniel Kinzler: Convert legacy format on export [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140366 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66719) 
[17:20:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140366 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66719) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[17:43:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Daniel Kinzler: EntityViewPlaceholderExpander should use EntityRevisionLookup. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140412 
[17:43:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] EntityViewPlaceholderExpander should use EntityRevisionLookup. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140412 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[17:51:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140412 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[18:04:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 031] "Seems fine to me, since the user is some kind of context info to the action. But I'd like someone else to give input on this." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140318 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[18:09:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Legoktm: "@Jeroen: Yes, it's exposed in the web API." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/138306 (owner: 10Legoktm)
[18:10:37] <hoo>	 aude: Did we branch yet?
[18:11:52] <hoo>	 ok, we haven't
[18:11:56] <hoo>	 good
[18:14:48] <aude>	 hoo: we probably are going to skip this week to ensure things are stable (e.g. the new serialization)
[18:14:59] <aude>	 enough bugs with last deployment
[18:15:13] <hoo>	 aude: Ok, so next Tuesday is the day?
[18:15:19] <aude>	 yes
[18:16:32] <aude>	 btw, we also want to think about how to support users on wikidata to use lua
[18:16:52] <aude>	 they already are using lua to access items on arbitrary pages with hacks
[18:17:07] <hoo>	 Show me the hacks
[18:17:20] <legoktm>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Module:WBHacks
[18:17:31] <aude>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Module:LoP_row
[18:17:36] <hoo>	 ah on wikidata
[18:17:44] <aude>	 powerse the list of properties pages
[18:17:47] <aude>	 powers*
[18:17:50] <hoo>	 that's not as bad as it would be on the WPs
[18:17:58] <rschen7754>	 there's another one too i think
[18:18:15] <aude>	 which definitely will break, but should be possible to update to the new json format
[18:18:34] <aude>	 better yet, we give them a programatic way to access entities that's not so dependent on specific format
[18:18:51] <aude>	 don't worry about usage tracking, since it's being done already anyway
[18:18:58] <hoo>	 Well, there's a bug for making the Lua stuffs an own extension
[18:19:05] <aude>	 yep
[18:19:15] <aude>	 doesn't mean repo needs to be client yet (more sorting out for that, imho)
[18:19:18] <rschen7754>	 aude, hoo: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Module:Roadtable_row
[18:19:26] <aude>	 ah
[18:20:18] <hoo>	 aude: Agreed... convince Lydia and I guess we're good to go
[18:20:19] <legoktm>	 we should centralized LoP row to use WBHacks so we only need to update one module
[18:20:37] <aude>	 i think she is convinced
[18:21:00] <aude>	 just need this assigned 
[18:21:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] "Good to go as branch day is only next Tuesday" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/138306 (owner: 10Legoktm)
[18:21:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: DispatchStats API: Output a ISO 8601 formatted timestamp [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/138306 (owner: 10Legoktm)
[18:21:43] <legoktm>	 thanks!
[18:22:05] <hoo>	 You're welcome :)
[18:22:32] <hoo>	 aude: I can do that, after I'm done with the json stuffs
[18:22:54] <hoo>	 legoktm: Was a rather busy week so far, but I didn't forget the global rename things ;)
[18:23:05] <aude>	 hoo: yay
[18:23:05] <legoktm>	 :)
[18:26:43] <hoo>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/139367 *grmbl*
[18:26:59] <hoo>	 that's the current json dumps blocker :/
[18:28:13] <aude>	 rage
[18:29:15] <hoo>	 legoktm: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikidata_deployment#mw1.24wmf11 you might want to add your api change to that
[18:29:44] <legoktm>	 ok, under "Deployment notes"?
[18:29:57] <legoktm>	 or bug fixes?
[18:30:25] <hoo>	 do whatever you like... or maybe make an API breaking section and put both lines there
[18:30:42] <legoktm>	 :P ok
[18:44:40] <multichill>	 legoktm: Talking about api breakage.... I have a bug open for that
[18:44:59] <multichill>	 legoktm: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66619
[18:55:22] <legoktm>	 multichill: I'm guessing that has to do with the api error message format changing
[18:56:21] <multichill>	 It's pretty damn anoying that api formats seem to change without informing downstream
[18:59:17] <multichill>	 legoktm: But do you know if it's changed and do you have a diff?
[18:59:36] <legoktm>	 I think DanielK sent an email out about that?
[18:59:59] <legoktm>	 http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata-tech/2014-April/000473.html ha
[19:01:24] <multichill>	 A notice the lack of response
[19:01:41] <multichill>	 The wikidata technical documentation if a fucking mess
[19:03:12] <legoktm>	 yeah, I can't follow what the code is supposed to return.
[19:03:20] <legoktm>	 I think it should just be a normal API response.
[19:24:24] <Lydia_WMDE>	 hoo: aude: yes
[19:24:26] <Lydia_WMDE>	 :)
[19:25:18] <Lydia_WMDE>	 multichill: yeah we suck sometimes at notifying about api changes :( we need to get better at that
[19:25:33] <Lydia_WMDE>	 multichill: are you subscribed to wikidata-tech or only -l?
[19:25:45] <multichill>	 Both
[19:25:49] <Lydia_WMDE>	 ok good
[19:26:37] <multichill>	 Lydia_WMDE: In general the technical documentation is a mess
[19:26:43] <Nemo_bis>	 don't you use mediawiki-api-announce
[19:26:56] <multichill>	 There's a lot of pages, but not clear what is current and what is outdated 
[19:27:08] <Lydia_WMDE>	 yeah :/
[19:27:31] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Nemo_bis: ufff yet another mailing list to keep in mind. so no not yet but will try to post things there too
[19:27:58] <multichill>	 That list is really low volume and at least a trigger for us to start filing bugs
[19:28:36] <Lydia_WMDE>	 *nod*
[19:28:53] <Lydia_WMDE>	 it's not about it being too much in my inbox. just need to keep in mind to do it
[19:28:58] <multichill>	 Lydia_WMDE: So, this is a bug on a bug. The first bug is that we get random token errors
[19:29:05] <JohnFLewis>	 -tech is not as annoying as -bugs at least :p
[19:29:16] <multichill>	 The second bug is that the error output seems to have changed, crashing the bot
[19:29:21] <Lydia_WMDE>	 ok
[19:29:45] <multichill>	 Would be nice if someone could look into the token errors from the server side
[19:30:21] <multichill>	 At first I assumed it was because multiple bots were running at the same time (bot A gets token, bot B too, racing etc), but I only had one running
[19:31:06] <Lydia_WMDE>	 ok
[19:32:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Legoktm: Remove unnecessary ApiBase::getContext() call. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140446 
[19:33:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Legoktm: Remove unnecessary ApiBase::getContext() calls. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140446 
[19:44:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140446 (owner: 10Legoktm)
[19:48:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140446 (owner: 10Legoktm)
[20:09:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140552 (owner: 10L10n-bot)
[20:19:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Legoktm: Remove unnecessary ApiBase::getContext() calls. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140446 
[20:27:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140446 (owner: 10Legoktm)
[21:25:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] "I don't really see the benefit, but also it wont harm." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140446 (owner: 10Legoktm)
[21:25:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Remove unnecessary ApiBase::getContext() calls. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140446 (owner: 10Legoktm)
[21:26:07] <legoktm>	 for some reason, it always bugs me when people use $this->getContext() on something that is a ContextSource.
[21:26:30] <legoktm>	 it gives the impression that the current object does not provide those methods
[21:26:54] <hoo>	 One could argue now that Api modules shouldn't be context sources, but as long as they are that's ok
[21:29:57] <lazowik>	 hi :)
[21:30:35] <hoo>	 hey lazowik :)
[23:12:46] <thepwnco>	 hello - is anyone around to help clarify something in the documentation for descriptions?
[23:13:56] <JohnFLewis>	 thepwnco: maybe
[23:14:06] <thepwnco>	 I'll take it!
[23:14:40] <thepwnco>	 so I am trying to decipher the section on "place the location at the end" http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Description#Place_the_location_at_the_end
[23:14:55] <thepwnco>	 and all is well until I get the example for Acathius of Melitene
[23:15:43] <JohnFLewis>	 Hm?
[23:16:32] <JohnFLewis>	 That seems fine to me
[23:17:39] <thepwnco>	 to me, it seems to contradict the guidelines for people discussed just a bit further up the page http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Description#Common_formulas
[23:18:09] <JohnFLewis>	 thepwnco: I've really gotta go now :/ Maybe some channel stalker can pick up where I left off
[23:18:13] <thepwnco>	 or for Lionel Messi (Argentinian footballer) under Capitalization
[23:18:33] <thepwnco>	 ok! I'm sure we've enticed them already with this discussion :P
[23:18:41] <thepwnco>	 all I have to do is wait... 
[23:18:46] <thepwnco>	 thanks!
[23:18:53] <JohnFLewis>	 for a few years :p