[00:28:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Addshore: "Thankyou :)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/129163 (owner: 10Addshore)
[01:57:31] <casey>	 Hi! Question: should there be a label added in for each language even if it's identical to the English label?
[01:57:54] <casey>	 Also, is there any way to list all languages for "in other languages" or to add a label/description for a language not in your babel?
[02:04:00] <casey>	 And is there any way to indicate "circa"? I think we just include the most specific information available (e.g., the US state of "Florida" for a place of birth if the exact city isn't known), but for a year like "c. 1971", it could be 1969 or 1973 or something around then, so 1970s wouldn't really be a good value either. Can we just leave it at 1971?
[05:58:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Raimond Spekking: [C: 032] "No need to touch ku.json but it doesn't hurt. And en.json is never touched by the translatewiki.net script" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/137205 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[05:58:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Change remaining i18n json files to tabs [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/137205 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[07:47:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS6) 10Adrian Lang: Factor out generation of site links HTML into own class [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/129122 
[07:47:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS6) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Adapted to changes of ValueView version 0.6 [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/126208 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[07:48:43] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: "PS6: rebased and fixed conflict in jquery.wikibase.entityselector.js" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/126208 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[07:51:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: Factor out generation of site links HTML into own class (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/129122 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[07:57:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/129122 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[07:58:24] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/126208 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[08:01:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: [C: 04-1] "Needs manual rebase :/" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/136514 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[08:07:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-1] "I don't see how duplicating the code improves the situation. In the likely event that we need further special pages on the client, this wi" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/136834 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[08:07:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: Re-submit "Remove StoreFactory and related logic" (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135776 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[08:08:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Daniel Kinzler: Re-submit "Remove StoreFactory and related logic" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135776 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[08:10:11] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15adrianlang pushed 1 new commit to 06refactorExperts: 02http://git.io/5AEXTA
[08:10:11] <gh-wmde>	 13ValueView/06refactorExperts 14ee3f4bb 15Adrian Lang: Rename initialShow -> onInitialShow
[08:10:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS20) 10Daniel Kinzler: Introducing EntityContentDataCodec [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134373 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66024) 
[08:10:24] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS17) 10Daniel Kinzler: Introducing EntityContentDiff [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135044 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66026) 
[08:17:14] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15adrianlang 04deleted 06previewwidget at 148b642ae: 02http://git.io/fZ91Qw
[08:17:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135776 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[08:24:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134373 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66024) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[08:25:37] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15adrianlang 04force-pushed 06getMessage from 14a87351f to 146159a10: 02http://git.io/rm2oLg
[08:25:37] <gh-wmde>	 13ValueView/06getMessage 146159a10 15Adrian Lang: Correct messageGetter option to MessageProvider...
[08:28:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135044 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66026) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[09:18:46] <Lydia_WMDE>	 fyi: dispatch lag is rising
[09:18:49] <Lydia_WMDE>	 we are looking into it
[09:35:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS7) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Adapted to changes of ValueView version 0.6 [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/126208 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[09:36:53] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/126208 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[09:38:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Adrian Lang: Move ValueParserFactory out of ParseValue api module [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/137281 
[09:42:00] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15adrianlang pushed 1 new commit to 06refactorExperts: 02http://git.io/AcYAnA
[09:42:00] <gh-wmde>	 13ValueView/06refactorExperts 14f35ce35 15Adrian Lang: Add small entry to README
[09:45:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/137281 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[10:00:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10WikidataBuilder: New Wikidata Build - 04/06/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/137283 
[10:05:02] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15tobijat 04deleted 06refactorExperts at 14f35ce35: 02http://git.io/Z1R3OQ
[10:05:58] <Tobi_WMDE>	 Adrian_WMDE: ^^
[10:08:51] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15adrianlang closed pull request #56: Make MessageProvider.getMessage adhere to it's documented interface (06master...06getMessage) 02http://git.io/jBWTLQ
[10:10:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/137283 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder)
[10:13:20] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15adrianlang created 06editCoordPrecision (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/NG3YQA
[10:13:20] <gh-wmde>	 13ValueView/06editCoordPrecision 140350ef0 15Adrian Lang: Support editing arbitrary precisions for GlobeCoordinates
[10:14:55] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15adrianlang opened pull request #58: Support editing arbitrary precisions for GlobeCoordinates (06master...06editCoordPrecision) 02http://git.io/w4O40g
[10:15:56] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15adrianlang 04force-pushed 06editCoordPrecision from 140350ef0 to 1490f73b2: 02http://git.io/36lWWA
[10:15:56] <gh-wmde>	 13ValueView/06editCoordPrecision 1490f73b2 15Adrian Lang: Support editing arbitrary precisions for GlobeCoordinates...
[10:17:30] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15adrianlang created 06mono (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/n2NlNQ
[10:17:30] <gh-wmde>	 13ValueView/06mono 141784035 15Adrian Lang: Add monolingualtext expert
[10:19:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Adrian Lang: Register parser and formatter for MonolingualText [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/137286 
[10:19:48] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Adrian Lang: Register expert for MonolingualText [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/137287 
[10:20:48] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Adrian Lang: Register expert for MonolingualText [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/137287 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64290) 
[10:24:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): "Basic test is basic. ;-)" (035 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/137281 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[10:27:10] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15tobijat pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/A2Dndw
[10:27:10] <gh-wmde>	 13ValueView/06master 1449e282c 15Tobi Gritschacher: Bump version 0.6
[10:27:38] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15tobijat pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/jP1CzA
[10:27:38] <gh-wmde>	 13ValueView/06master 14b75392a 15Tobi Gritschacher: Bump version 0.6
[10:27:53] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15tobijat tagged 060.6 at 06master: 02http://git.io/fMzIUw
[10:30:39] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15adrianlang opened pull request #59: Add monolingualtext expert (06master...06mono) 02http://git.io/NdHFww
[10:34:32] <FakirNL>	 About 90 minutes left: [[Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Administrator/FakirNL]]
[10:34:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/137286 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[10:34:55] <FakirNL>	 No autolinkbot in the Wikidata-IRC?
[10:36:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/137287 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64290) (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[10:36:41] <aude>	 Reedy_: poke
[10:38:35] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Reedy_: dispatch stats are at nearly 16 hours atm :(
[10:38:52] <aude>	 no permission to write logs
[10:39:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/137287 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64290) (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[10:44:49] <Tobi_WMDE>	 aude: did you make the deployment branch already?
[10:45:01] <aude>	 no
[10:45:20] <Tobi_WMDE>	 aude: if not, would be good to wait until I've merged the change to require ValueView 0.6
[10:45:28] <aude>	 ok
[10:45:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/126208 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[10:45:34] <Tobi_WMDE>	 that fixes lot's of bugs
[10:45:36] <aude>	 probably will make after meeting
[10:45:40] <aude>	 \o/
[10:45:41] <Tobi_WMDE>	 aude: great
[10:45:49] <aude>	 the one i complained about ... with strings?
[10:45:59] <Tobi_WMDE>	 that one too, yes
[10:46:25] <aude>	 yay
[10:50:43] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] Adapted to changes of ValueView version 0.6 [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/126208 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[10:51:12] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Adapted to changes of ValueView version 0.6 [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/126208 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[10:51:51] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15thiemowmde comment on pull request #58 1490f73b2: I would prefer something like `"±$1° (custom)"`. 02http://git.io/w8M16w
[10:53:57] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15adrianlang comment on pull request #58 1490f73b2: The value is already formatted correctly. I don't care about the position of the value and »custom«, might just switch that. @lydiapintscher? 02http://git.io/OSEVjQ
[10:56:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Daniel Kinzler: Update secondary indexes using DataUpdateClosure. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135777 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66028) 
[10:59:22] <gh-wmde>	 [13DataValuesJavascript] 15adrianlang pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/xbf4QA
[10:59:22] <gh-wmde>	 13DataValuesJavascript/06master 14cfe87b1 15Adrian Lang: Release 0.5.1
[11:00:17] <gh-wmde>	 [13DataValuesJavascript] 15adrianlang tagged 060.5.1 at 06master: 02http://git.io/FtpH5A
[11:01:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Adrian Lang: Bump data-values/javascript dependency [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/137290 
[11:01:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Bump data-values/javascript dependency [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/137290 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[11:03:24] <gh-wmde>	 [13DataValuesJavascript] 15adrianlang created 06globeCoordPrecision (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/8mu4pw
[11:03:24] <gh-wmde>	 13DataValuesJavascript/06globeCoordPrecision 148e20510 15Adrian Lang: Remove list of globe coordinate precisions
[11:04:10] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wmde/DataValuesJavascript/globeCoordPrecision/8e20510 : Adrian Lang The build was broken. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/DataValuesJavascript/builds/26748963
[11:04:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Adrian Lang: Bump data-values/javascript dependency [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/137290 
[11:06:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-1] "ExceptionHandler is very generic and could probably even live in core. It provides a way to control how exceptions are handled during some" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/136824 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[11:06:46] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15adrianlang 04force-pushed 06editCoordPrecision from 1490f73b2 to 146aae97b: 02http://git.io/36lWWA
[11:06:46] <gh-wmde>	 13ValueView/06editCoordPrecision 146aae97b 15Adrian Lang: Support editing arbitrary precisions for GlobeCoordinates...
[11:07:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-1] "This partially overlaps with I90d38bda79. I suggest to rebase this patch on top of that." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/136506 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[11:08:10] <gh-wmde>	 [13DataValuesJavascript] 15adrianlang 04force-pushed 06globeCoordPrecision from 148e20510 to 14d500b5e: 02http://git.io/dNYkYA
[11:08:10] <gh-wmde>	 13DataValuesJavascript/06globeCoordPrecision 14d500b5e 15Adrian Lang: Remove list of globe coordinate precisions
[11:08:49] <jem->	 legoktm: Are you there?
[11:09:10] <gh-wmde>	 [13DataValuesJavascript] 15adrianlang opened pull request #40: Remove list of globe coordinate precisions (06master...06globeCoordPrecision) 02http://git.io/P6aU2Q
[11:09:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135777 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66028) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[11:13:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/137290 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[11:18:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/137290 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[11:42:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Abandoned) 10Addshore: New Wikidata Build - 01/06/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/136629 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder)
[11:42:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Abandoned) 10Addshore: New Wikidata Build - 02/06/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/136736 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder)
[11:42:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Abandoned) 10Addshore: New Wikidata Build - 03/06/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/136999 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder)
[12:22:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/137290 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[13:31:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS6) 10Hoo man: Re-submit "Remove StoreFactory and related logic" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135776 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[13:38:44] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135776 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[13:41:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] "Failing test looks good now and passes locally." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135776 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[13:42:02] <hoo>	 let's see what travis does with this
[14:04:10] <lazowik>	 hi :)
[14:20:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/137290 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[14:21:17] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] Bump data-values/javascript dependency [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/137290 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[14:21:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Bump data-values/javascript dependency [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/137290 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[14:49:57] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15thiemowmde comment on pull request #58 146aae97b: After showing and chatting with @lydiapintscher we decided to use `"special ($1)"` (without any rounding) to not make users think this can be "customized" via the UI. 02http://git.io/8Me6pw
[14:52:08] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15thiemowmde comment on pull request #58 146aae97b: Why are you introducing this duplicate here? Can't you reuse the `GlobeCoordinate.PRECISIONS` array from globeCoordinate.GlobeCoordinate.js? 02http://git.io/quwcxA
[14:53:25] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15thiemowmde comment on pull request #58 146aae97b: Please make the order... 02http://git.io/wlpItw
[15:28:25] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15adrianlang comment on pull request #58 146aae97b: It's removed there in wmde/DataValuesJavascript#40. 02http://git.io/6VZJEw
[15:28:45] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15adrianlang comment on pull request #58 146aae97b: That shouldn't be done in this change, right? 02http://git.io/Zw_2Pg
[15:30:55] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15thiemowmde comment on pull request #58 146aae97b: Yea, right. 02http://git.io/cno0sg
[15:32:20] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15thiemowmde pushed 1 new commit to 06editCoordPrecision: 02http://git.io/R8rNYw
[15:32:20] <gh-wmde>	 13ValueView/06editCoordPrecision 14e5a4e95 15thiemowmde: Update en.json
[15:39:44] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15thiemowmde comment on pull request #58 14e5a4e95: Uh, this is odd. What happens to the other values that are not custom? Are they supposed to be strings/floats? 02http://git.io/vhRQng
[15:39:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Bene: [C: 04-1] "Some notes from my side. I am not sure if this approach is the best." (037 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/131023 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/63391) (owner: 10Aude)
[15:49:28] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15thiemowmde comment on pull request #58 14e5a4e95: So this really is either a number or an object? Hm. 02http://git.io/erR4xg
[15:50:38] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15thiemowmde comment on pull request #58 14e5a4e95: It seems you are testing here with non-custom values that are object and not numbers as the code above expects. Shouldn't this test fail then? 02http://git.io/TJk78Q
[16:00:13] <FakirNL>	 Hi everyone, I need a philosopher who speaks Japanese, Chinese, Russian and Spanish
[16:00:25] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 who doesn't...
[16:00:39] <FakirNL>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2297282 and https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q46744
[16:15:51] <lazowik>	 DanielK_WMDE__: :D
[16:17:01] <gh-datavalues>	 [13Time] 15thiemowmde created 06calculator-inverse (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/AXj7Pw
[16:17:01] <gh-datavalues>	 13Time/06calculator-inverse 14f8e1bca 15Thiemo Mättig: [WIP] Inverse timestamp to TimeValue calculation
[16:17:06] <lazowik>	 DanielK_WMDE__: you could have at least used real ellipsis…
[16:19:04] <gh-datavalues>	 [13Time] 15thiemowmde opened pull request #19: [WIP] Inverse timestamp to TimeValue calculation (06master...06calculator-inverse) 02http://git.io/t_Bz9A
[16:44:17] <gh-datavalues>	 [13Time] 15thiemowmde created 06timevalue-doc (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/PaQOnA
[16:44:17] <gh-datavalues>	 13Time/06timevalue-doc 14f47e412 15Thiemo Mättig: Update TimeValue documentation
[16:44:53] <gh-datavalues>	 [13Time] 15thiemowmde opened pull request #20: Update TimeValue documentation (06master...06timevalue-doc) 02http://git.io/E0KIBg
[16:53:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Abandoned) 10Aude: Improve badge handling in SpecialSetSiteLink, using ExceptionLocalizer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/131023 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/63391) (owner: 10Aude)
[16:56:33] <gh-datavalues>	 [13Time] 15thiemowmde pushed 1 new commit to 06calculator: 02http://git.io/TUn_MA
[16:56:33] <gh-datavalues>	 13Time/06calculator 146f8d99b 15Thiemo Mättig: Fix issues we discussed
[16:58:21] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 DanielK_WMDE: https://github.com/DataValues/Time/pull/18/commits please.
[17:25:16] <gh-datavalues>	 [13Time] 15brightbyte closed pull request #18: TimeValueCalculator (06master...06calculator) 02http://git.io/Wdi67A
[17:28:32] <gh-datavalues>	 [13Time] 15addshore pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/gBqECQ
[17:28:32] <gh-datavalues>	 13Time/06master 14909e748 15addshore: Fix release notes
[17:30:31] <gh-datavalues>	 [13Time] 15addshore 04deleted 06timevalue-doc at 14f47e412: 02http://git.io/LdrMww
[17:31:18] <gh-datavalues>	 [13Time] 15addshore pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/gYEARQ
[17:31:18] <gh-datavalues>	 13Time/06master 1495a92bc 15addshore: Fix grammar in phpdoc 'an' -> 'a'
[17:38:46] <gh-datavalues>	 [13Time] 15JeroenDeDauw 04deleted 06calculator at 146f8d99b: 02http://git.io/c4THxg
[17:54:10] <DanielK_WMDE>	 aude: will you attend the deployment trainign thing? I'd like to watch it, but i don't have the url
[17:54:35] <aude>	 DanielK_WMDE: i have to ask for it
[17:55:06] <DanielK_WMDE>	 what do you mean?
[17:55:54] <aude>	 i don't have url
[17:55:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Daniel Kinzler: Update secondary indexes using DataUpdateClosure. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135777 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66028) 
[17:56:04] <DanielK_WMDE>	 oh ok
[17:56:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Update secondary indexes using DataUpdateClosure. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135777 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66028) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[17:56:23] <DanielK_WMDE>	 *sigh*
[17:56:25] <DanielK_WMDE>	 wtf
[17:56:33] <DanielK_WMDE>	 more rebase hell
[17:56:40] <lazowik>	 :(
[17:57:05] * lazowik has gone from actual coding to supporting others with emoticons
[17:57:10] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15thiemowmde comment on pull request #107 14b7d4ba4: It can also be an `EntityId` according to the code. 02http://git.io/TCOZvw
[17:57:20] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15thiemowmde comment on pull request #107 14b7d4ba4: It can also be an `EntityId` according to the code. 02http://git.io/p0_S4A
[17:57:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS6) 10Daniel Kinzler: Update secondary indexes using DataUpdateClosure. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135777 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66028) 
[17:57:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS21) 10Daniel Kinzler: Introducing EntityContentDataCodec [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134373 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66024) 
[17:57:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS18) 10Daniel Kinzler: Introducing EntityContentDiff [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135044 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66026) 
[18:07:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135777 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66028) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[18:16:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135777 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66028) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[18:21:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134373 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66024) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[18:24:25] <gh-datavalues>	 [13Time] 15thiemowmde 04force-pushed 06calculator-inverse from 14f8e1bca to 14ffd1829: 02http://git.io/UnxMSA
[18:24:25] <gh-datavalues>	 13Time/06calculator-inverse 14ffd1829 15Thiemo Mättig: [WIP] Inverse timestamp to TimeValue calculation
[18:25:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135044 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66026) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[18:33:58] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15thiemowmde created 06addNewSiteLink (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/eKVC3A
[18:33:58] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06addNewSiteLink 14933a7e1 15Thiemo Mättig: addSiteLink and addNewSiteLink
[18:38:18] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15thiemowmde opened pull request #110: [WIP] addSiteLink and addNewSiteLink (06master...06addNewSiteLink) 02http://git.io/_I9DYQ
[18:43:49] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15thiemowmde created 06unchain (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/iJTJMw
[18:43:49] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06unchain 147c6462a 15Thiemo Mättig: Unchain SiteLinkList adder
[18:45:12] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseDataModel/addNewSiteLink/933a7e1 : Thiemo Mättig The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/builds/26785688
[18:47:52] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15thiemowmde opened pull request #111: Unchain SiteLinkList adder (06master...06unchain) 02http://git.io/7EouFg
[19:02:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 04-1] "I'm not sure if I should block this further. Maybe I'm just missing an explanation:" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134373 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66024) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[19:08:46] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseDataModel/unchain/7c6462a : Thiemo Mättig The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/builds/26786393
[19:13:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "@Thiemo, Re the default format: Look at hot ContentHandler::getDefaultFormat is used. Basically, when the database doesn't have a format s" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134373 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66024) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[19:14:03] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Thiemo_WMDE: satisfied?
[19:14:41] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 uh? reading...
[19:19:09] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 I don't think this explains why this isn't a constant .
[19:19:38] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Thiemo_WMDE: oh, it's not a constant because callign code shouldn't care where it comes from or whetehr it can change
[19:19:47] <DanielK_WMDE>	 the codec decided, for now, that this can't change. 
[19:19:51] <DanielK_WMDE>	 that's an implementation detail.
[19:20:11] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 No, why?
[19:20:33] <DanielK_WMDE>	 hm?
[19:20:45] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Thiemo_WMDE: i don't understand your question i'm afraid.
[19:21:21] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 "callign code shouldn't care where it comes from". It comes from the codec. Calling code can not not care where it comes from.
[19:22:05] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Thiemo_WMDE: callign code shoudn't care how the codec determins it. Whether it's configurable, or depends on the mediawiki version, or available php modules, or whatever
[19:22:09] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 But thats only one of my two complaints.
[19:22:25] <JohnLewis>	 Lydia_WMDE: and done :p
[19:22:38] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 This knowledge does not belong to the codec.
[19:22:44] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Thiemo_WMDE: i conly see the top level message. got unsaved comments?
[19:23:01] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 See the two points in my message.
[19:23:43] <lazowik>	 JohnLewis: you could also go ahead and shorten some urls
[19:23:47] <lazowik>	 like logs
[19:24:07] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 A codec encodes and decodes. it should not know anything about the outside world. a default format is nothing the codec itself should care about. thats something the world outside of the codec cares about.
[19:24:16] <JohnLewis>	 lazowik: I guess.
[19:24:16] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Thiemo_WMDE: as to the second point: currently, there's no point in changing this. and it would be bad if you tried. that's why the setting went away.
[19:25:05] <lazowik>	 JohnLewis: I remember telling Lydia_WMDE about this formmated logs that liked now and she decided to throw something out because of limited space
[19:25:19] <lazowik>	 both of us didn't think of shorteners…
[19:25:36] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Thiemo_WMDE: i see your point about wh gets to decide the default format. i don't care too much. the idea was that the code that determins what fromats are available also gets to pick the default
[19:25:56] <DanielK_WMDE>	 because other code doesn't have knowledge about which format would even be desirable
[19:28:04] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Thiemo_WMDE: i can kill the default from the codec and have it hardcoded in EntityContent. Doesn't feel great to me, but would be ok, i guess.
[19:28:55] <JohnLewis>	 lazowik: How about that?
[19:34:09] <lazowik>	 JohnLewis: splendid!
[19:35:02] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Thiemo_WMDE: ?
[19:35:15] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 ... still reading the code...
[19:37:14] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 So having a "default format" is a concept from core\ContentHandler? What does it do?
[19:37:46] <DanielK_WMDE>	 it'S used as the default for encoding the content.
[19:37:49] <DanielK_WMDE>	 anyway
[19:37:55] <DanielK_WMDE>	 I'm packing up for today. may be back online laster. 
[19:38:30] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Thiemo_WMDE: note that the default format is represented as NULL in the database. that'S really the onlythign magic.
[20:03:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/137440 (owner: 10L10n-bot)
[20:15:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Stick to ContentHandler::getDefaultFormat default implementation [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/137448 
[20:17:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): "I found it easier to express my idea by writing code, see Ibc4e5122cff776550df9d650fa887d8dbe7a021e." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134373 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66024) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[20:23:49] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/137448 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[20:32:34] <gh-wmde>	 [13DataValuesJavascript] 15thiemowmde comment on pull request #40 14d500b5e: This part of the test does not do anything now because these two values are not in the `precisions` array and the `if` below always fails.... 02http://git.io/BC7U1Q
[20:51:30] <gh-wmde>	 [13DataValuesJavascript] 15thiemowmde created 06geo-formatter-test (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/pOrbng
[20:51:30] <gh-wmde>	 13DataValuesJavascript/06geo-formatter-test 146c76122 15Thiemo Mättig: Fix test that did not tested much
[21:00:16] <gh-wmde>	 [13DataValuesJavascript] 15thiemowmde opened pull request #41: Fix test that did not tested much (06master...06geo-formatter-test) 02http://git.io/ladqdQ
[21:04:40] <gh-wmde>	 [13DataValuesJavascript] 15thiemowmde created 06one-degree (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/PLSKhA
[21:04:40] <gh-wmde>	 13DataValuesJavascript/06one-degree 1440ad06f 15Thiemo Mättig: Display 1 degree as number, not text
[21:09:08] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw comment on pull request #107 14b7d4ba4: Indeed it can be, though both that support and having an EntityId to begin with is highly deprecated. 02http://git.io/KV3U5A
[21:12:53] <gh-wmde>	 [13DataValuesJavascript] 15thiemowmde opened pull request #42: Display 1 degree as number, not text (06master...06one-degree) 02http://git.io/zfqFzg
[21:16:00] <gh-wmde>	 [13DataValuesJavascript] 15thiemowmde pushed 1 new commit to 06one-degree: 02http://git.io/rfRsnA
[21:16:00] <gh-wmde>	 13DataValuesJavascript/06one-degree 148deb518 15Thiemo Mättig: Bumped version number
[21:19:18] <gh-wmde>	 [13DataValuesJavascript] 15thiemowmde 04force-pushed 06one-degree from 148deb518 to 14159baef: 02http://git.io/qDcK8A
[21:19:18] <gh-wmde>	 13DataValuesJavascript/06one-degree 14159baef 15Thiemo Mättig: Display 1 degree as number, not text
[21:26:09] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseQuery#128 (master - 157ebc3 : Translation updater bot): The build has errored.
[21:26:09] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseQuery/compare/11f0f4b4c30e...157ebc399eb4
[21:26:09] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseQuery/builds/26792453
[21:31:25] <gh-wmde>	 [13DataValuesJavascript] 15thiemowmde pushed 1 new commit to 06globeCoordPrecision: 02http://git.io/zzrNEg
[21:31:25] <gh-wmde>	 13DataValuesJavascript/06globeCoordPrecision 145785aa2 15thiemowmde: Update globeCoordinate.Formatter.tests.js
[22:02:59] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15thiemowmde comment on pull request #107 14b7d4ba4: Ok, makes sense. 02http://git.io/86EOgw
[23:27:39] <loeloe>	 hi
[23:27:45] <loeloe>	 anyone active?
[23:50:01] <sDrewth>	 Anyone think that there is the possibility to have [[Special:UnconnectedPages]] be able to sorted drilled down by namespaces?
[23:50:19] <sDrewth>	 and if a bugzilla is to be lodged, against what?
[23:51:39] <sDrewth>	 wikidataclient?