[00:13:46] <Josve05a>	 Can someone check 125.17.65.18 's edits?  https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/125.17.65.18
[00:37:58] <Krenair>	 So I think https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3735778 is a dupe of https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3738548 - but they share many similar-looking sitelinks on (cebwiki, svwiki and warwiki)
[00:38:29] <Krenair>	 they have different ITIS TSNs and one has a nlwiki link and the other has an enwiki link
[00:40:45] <Krenair>	 hmph. even the itis.gov entries look dupey... guess I'll leave it for now
[00:41:29] <Reedy>	 Krenair: I wouldn't
[00:41:42] <Reedy>	 They're targetted for merge on cebwiki
[00:45:17] <James_F>	 Krenair: Looking.
[00:45:52] <James_F>	 Krenair: Looks to be a typo-based bot auto-creation (on all of them).
[00:47:00] <Krenair>	 Reedy, the edit marking them for merge didn't say anything except the template. They probably ran into exactly what I just found
[00:47:08] <Krenair>	 James_F, yeah, but the itis.gov entries and everything?
[00:47:28] <Krenair>	 ( http://www.itis.gov/servlet/SingleRpt/SingleRpt?search_topic=TSN&search_value=568418 and http://www.itis.gov/servlet/SingleRpt/SingleRpt?search_topic=TSN&search_value=75858 )
[00:48:07] <James_F>	 Krenair: "Turbonilla newcombei" has > 2 orders of magnitudes more hits than "Turbonilla newcombiei"
[00:48:54] <Krenair>	 That's not an extremely convincing rationale to merge..
[00:49:16] <James_F>	 True, but it helps with the balance.
[00:49:35] <Krenair>	 I'm just being overly cautious about something I know nothing about - if you guys want to merge, go for it
[00:50:44] * James_F grins.
[00:51:01] <James_F>	 Krenair: Nominate it instead?
[00:51:23] <elfalem>	 Hello, I'm trying to write a script to aid in translation of pages: is it possible to programmatically get the interwiki link from one language to another language (for example: given the article name "Derfflinger-class battlecruiser" from enwiki and the target wiki cswiki, it would return "Třída Derfflinger")?
[00:53:00] <Reedy>	 Sounds feasible
[00:53:26] <Krenair>	 James_F, there's a nomination process for merges?
[00:53:38] <James_F>	 Krenair: Somewhere.
[00:54:00] <Krenair>	 It's not described on [[Help:Merge]]
[00:55:22] <James_F>	 Krenair: Oh, yeah; you're meant to nominate at [[Wikidata:Requests for deletions]] and expect a sysop like me to decide.
[00:55:51] <Krenair>	 Oh, okay.
[00:56:37] <James_F>	 Speaking of.
[00:56:42] * James_F works on that backlog.
[01:02:10] <Krenair>	 James_F, {{done}}
[01:02:23] <James_F>	 Krenair: Thanks. I will now ignore it. ;-)
[01:02:27] <Krenair>	 :)
[01:03:24] <James_F>	 Actually, I should comment that I don't know.
[01:03:45] * Krenair rolls eyes
[01:05:02] <James_F>	 Krenair: So the next sysop who comes along doesn't waste their time.
[08:20:42] <sjoerddebruin>	 GerardM-: Weet jij hoe ik het beste kan aangeven dat iemand een burgermeester is geweest?
[08:24:14] <sjoerddebruin>	 Ah, ambt en dan zo'n item aanmaken zie ik nu. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q13423495
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[13:04:52] <sDrewth>	 yea GerardM-, nice comments to WM-L :-)
[13:05:03] <sDrewth>	 getting sick of the continued bitch fights there
[13:13:04] <harej>	 I got tired of them over six years ago when I unsubscribed :]
[13:20:02] <sDrewth>	 harej: at the moment it is where the new ED is active, so not without value, and getting to read a blog never seems to happen
[13:21:08] <sDrewth>	 it is those who think that they can beat people into submission with their [[w:motivated reasoning]] and having last say is going to make them more convincing
[13:21:46] <sDrewth>	 can anyone think of a better way to do periods of rule then for Gladstone at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q160852 ?
[13:22:11] <sDrewth>	 start and end dates don't work well in that means, and they should be more neatly paired
[13:49:43] <Lydia_WMDE>	 GerardM-: hey
[13:49:52] <Lydia_WMDE>	 GerardM-: you are tagging wrong politicians!
[13:50:06] <Lydia_WMDE>	 neither cevin costner nor morgan freeman are politicians
[13:50:26] <Lydia_WMDE>	 GerardM-: you need to stop that widar run
[13:50:50] * JohnLewis stares at Lydia_WMDE
[13:51:09] <Lydia_WMDE>	 JohnLewis: hey
[13:51:38] <JohnLewis>	 Lydia_WMDE: What if Morgan Freeman isa politician secretly :o
[13:51:44] <Lydia_WMDE>	 -.-
[13:52:07] * Lydia_WMDE doesn't find it funny tbh to have a huge load of wrong data added
[13:52:17] <JohnLewis>	 Merge game.
[13:52:21] <Lydia_WMDE>	 no
[13:52:50] <JohnLewis>	 Well, I'd rather have wrong but funny data added that merging a bunch of unrelated items into a single item.
[13:53:07] <Lydia_WMDE>	 heh fair
[13:53:25] <JohnLewis>	 At least we can easily remove the inaccurate data after laughing :D
[13:53:36] <Lydia_WMDE>	 well can we?
[13:53:56] <Lydia_WMDE>	 i assume GerardM- used a category wrong
[13:54:07] <JohnLewis>	 sure
[13:54:25] <JohnLewis>	 Lydia_WMDE: poke me if you want me to use the kill switch as usual.
[13:55:35] <Lydia_WMDE>	 GerardM-: poke
[13:55:39] <Lydia_WMDE>	 uma thurman is neither
[13:56:16] <Lydia_WMDE>	 JohnLewis: do based on your own judgment please
[13:56:20] * benestar waves to Lydia_WMDE
[13:56:24] <Lydia_WMDE>	 hey benestar
[13:56:48] <JohnLewis>	 Lydia_WMDE: Well, is he adding large amounts of inaccurate data?
[13:56:54] <benestar>	 Lydia_WMDE: finally only the repo ui is missing for badges
[13:56:57] <Lydia_WMDE>	 JohnLewis: i think so yes
[13:57:05] <Lydia_WMDE>	 benestar: yay :)
[13:57:18] <benestar>	 does it make sense to start creating a ui or will the redesign be availabel quite soon?
[13:57:35] <Lydia_WMDE>	 benestar: mockups for it. but it'll take time to implement
[13:58:04] <JohnLewis>	 Lydia_WMDE: 13:57, 1 June 2014 John F. Lewis (A) (talk | contribs | block) blocked GerardM (talk | contribs) with an expiry time of 6 hours (autoblock disabled) (Adding inaccurate data. Kill-switch for Widar. Tried to communicate the issue but not responsive.) (unblock | change block)
[13:58:23] <benestar>	 JohnLewis: :O
[13:58:29] <Lydia_WMDE>	 JohnLewis: ok thx. i hope he'll be back soon to look into it
[13:58:46] <JohnLewis>	 benestar: Don't be shocked. BeneBot* is next :p
[13:58:49] <benestar>	 Lydia_WMDE: ok, so it is worth to create a ui for now because I think badges should be availabe asap
[13:58:56] <benestar>	 JohnLewis: hmm, why?
[13:58:58] <Lydia_WMDE>	 benestar: *nod*
[13:59:08] <benestar>	 k
[13:59:23] <JohnLewis>	 benestar: because I'm a rogue admin ofc in sjoerddebruin's opinion :p
[13:59:31] <benestar>	 9_9
[14:00:00] * Lydia_WMDE unpoliticians adam sandler :P
[14:00:18] <benestar>	 Lydia_WMDE: and another question: I think about to develop an Android app for Wikidata :)
[14:00:20] <JohnLewis>	 Lydia_WMDEL c'mon. Now that one is funny :p
[14:00:35] <JohnLewis>	 benestar: Why just Android? :p
[14:00:44] <benestar>	 JohnLewis: because Apple is evil :P
[14:00:56] <JohnLewis>	 benestar: I has an Apple device :(
[14:01:05] <JohnLewis>	 Granted I have an Android too. So :p
[14:01:06] <benestar>	 and I want to develop native Apps
[14:01:44] <Lydia_WMDE>	 benestar: cool. what kind of app?
[14:01:57] <JohnLewis>	 Lydia_WMDE: A Wikidata one ofc :D
[14:02:02] <benestar>	 Lydia_WMDE: mainly to consume data
[14:02:03] <Lydia_WMDE>	 -.-
[14:02:18] <benestar>	 not sure which api level I should support though
[14:02:28] <Lydia_WMDE>	 benestar: ok
[14:03:35] <benestar>	 because some great features I have in mind only work with Android 4 and above
[14:04:05] <benestar>	 do you think lots of peoply interested in Wikidata use an Android device below 4?
[14:05:14] <sjoerddebruin>	 There are a lot of android devices below 4.
[14:07:52] <benestar>	 sjoerddebruin: yes, about 16%
[14:08:08] <benestar>	 http://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html
[14:08:16] <sjoerddebruin>	 Not more? :O
[14:08:31] <benestar>	 sjoerddebruin: apperantly not
[14:08:38] <sjoerddebruin>	 "Note: Because this data is gathered from the new Google Play Store app, which supports Android 2.2 and above, devices running older versions are not included. However, in August, 2013, versions older than Android 2.2 accounted for about 1% of devices that checked in to Google servers (not those that actually visited Google Play Store)."
[14:10:22] * JohnLewis checks his version
[14:10:32] <JohnLewis>	 4.1.2 :D
[14:10:44] <benestar>	 JohnLewis: Android, not Apple :P
[14:11:06] <Lydia_WMDE>	 benestar: 4.0 came out end of 2011. that is 3 years. aka ancient in mobile
[14:11:07] <Lydia_WMDE>	 imho
[14:11:15] <JohnLewis>	 That is Android :P My Apple is 7 point something
[14:11:30] <sjoerddebruin>	 Oh, Apple-keynote tomorrow.
[14:11:41] <benestar>	 ok, so we can have some great animations and designs \o/
[14:18:43] <sjoerddebruin>	 Nobody here wants to fix magnus missing props? :(
[14:24:29] <sDrewth>	 2.3.6
[14:24:54] <sDrewth>	 sjoerddebruin: best I would have done is revert
[14:25:07] <sjoerddebruin>	 Revert?
[14:25:14] <sDrewth>	 and as a non-admin, I wasn't about to
[14:25:22] <sDrewth>	 magnus's missing props
[14:27:56] <sjoerddebruin>	 Maybe you can delete the 2249 empty items. :)
[14:28:19] <sjoerddebruin>	 https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:ShortPages&limit=2249&offset=2249 Go for them!
[14:28:35] <sjoerddebruin>	 https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:ShortPages&limit=2249 *
[14:28:52] <sDrewth>	 1) not sure that I know that I know what you are talking about, and 2) I don't qualify for delete rights in project or main ns
[14:29:33] <sjoerddebruin>	 Just break in the database. :P
[14:30:16] <sDrewth>	 I was presuming that you were referring to how its formatting is broken in its display (well it is broken for me)
[14:30:36] <sjoerddebruin>	 You're talking about missing props now?
[14:30:51] <sDrewth>	 yes, that is what I thought that we were discussing
[14:31:16] <sjoerddebruin>	 It's completly broken, probalby becasue of the jquerychanges.
[14:32:19] * sDrewth just uses it now for a check list
[14:33:06] <sjoerddebruin>	 Yeah, but i've liked the previous behavior. :P
[14:52:08] <Krenair>	 benestar, https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions&diff=prev&oldid=135614864
[15:01:49] <benestar>	 Krenair: :'(
[15:17:24] <GerardM->	 stopped the bot run ...
[15:17:42] <GerardM->	 according to the category structure, they are all politicians
[15:18:05] <GerardM->	 American politicians by state
[15:18:48] <lazowik>	 hi!
[15:33:03] <sDrewth>	 for a honorary doctorate, how do we identify that it is honorary?
[15:34:38] <GerardM->	 there is something for that
[15:46:57] <Lydia_WMDE>	 GerardM-: i found at least 4 that are not politicians
[15:47:00] <Lydia_WMDE>	 they are just donors
[15:47:10] <sDrewth>	 there is a Q field honorary doctorate, but that is not specific and I cannot find a property to use for a qualifier
[15:47:34] <Lydia_WMDE>	 GerardM-: you need to clean that up :/ i couldn't look through all of those over 2000 items
[15:49:05] <JohnLewis>	 sDrewth: What statement are you trying to get accross?
[15:49:31] <sDrewth>	 honorary LL.D.
[15:49:46] <JohnLewis>	 sDrewth: Hm. Create a new item? :p
[15:49:50] <sDrewth>	 can add academic record of LL.D
[15:50:19] <sDrewth>	 so just want to put qualifier of Honorary doctorate, somehow
[15:51:47] <sDrewth>	 we must have some sort of generic qualifier field
[15:54:19] <GerardM->	 sDrewth I remember that I have seen it
[15:55:21] <GerardM->	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q156925
[15:55:32] <GerardM->	 but it should have the university that bestowed it
[15:55:40] <GerardM->	 and maybe the field it was given for
[15:55:52] <sDrewth>	 <click>
[15:56:59] <sDrewth>	 hmm, among awards
[15:57:08] <sDrewth>	 rather than academic degree
[15:59:03] <sDrewth>	 GerardM-: I was doing it this way https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1035
[16:04:33] <sDrewth>	 as it is an academic degree, so was wanting to them specify a qualifier of "honorary degree" with some property
[16:39:45] <Krenair>	 accidentally created a duplicate rfd, can't get rid of it because of the edit conflict bug
[16:41:32] <sjoerddebruin>	 Is it the same request Krenair?
[16:42:22] <Krenair>	 yes sjoerddebruin
[16:42:31] <sjoerddebruin>	 Don't worry about it then. :P
[16:43:02] <JohnLewis>	 wtf
[16:43:10] <JohnLewis>	 RfD keeps killing my browser >.>
[16:46:45] <sjoerddebruin>	 Get a better browser/computer. :)(
[16:48:06] <JohnLewis>	 sjoerddebruin: or we could get a better system for handling deletions ;P
[16:48:11] <JohnLewis>	 Costs a lot less money :D
[16:48:27] <sjoerddebruin>	 Something that doesn't use a page.
[16:48:49] <JohnLewis>	 An OTRS queue xD
[16:49:00] <JohnLewis>	 Send them to oversight@wikidata.org, solved :p
[16:49:24] <JohnLewis>	 Stryn: Thoughts?
[18:16:57] <Jasper_Deng>	 GerardM-: I'd prefer it if you'd ask me on-wiki
[18:17:02] <Jasper_Deng>	 rather than via email
[18:17:16] <Jasper_Deng>	 I didn't see you get permission for that
[18:18:52] <GerardM->	 do you doubt me ?
[18:19:13] <Jasper_Deng>	 yes
[18:19:35] <Jasper_Deng>	 there is literally no valid reason why he couldn't have done it himself
[18:21:14] <GerardM->	 is that a reason to doubt me
[18:21:20] <GerardM->	 say that I am a liar ?
[18:21:45] <Jasper_Deng>	 the burden of evidence rests on you
[18:21:59] <GerardM->	 well you cary your own burden
[18:22:16] <GerardM->	 I am glad that I do not think like you
[18:22:34] <Jasper_Deng>	 if you had his permission then you wouldn't have to sidestep giving a diff
[18:23:41] <GerardM->	 it is fine Jasper
[19:04:56] <Josve05a>	 Can someone help me...
[19:06:16] <JohnLewis>	 Josve05a: yes?
[19:06:32] <Josve05a>	 JohnLewis, you are one of the peple that "knows stuff" aroud here....can you please expain this? https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Rippitippi#You_reverted_one_of_my_merges
[19:06:58] <Josve05a>	 I don't understand why s/he reverted me, I thought they were the same...
[19:07:10] * JohnLewis looks
[19:09:24] <JohnLewis>	 They seem the same.
[19:10:21] <JohnLewis>	 2O ^ Jasper_Deng assuming you're here
[19:10:36] <Josve05a>	 hmm...what should I do? I don't want to "revert the revert"...
[19:11:11] <sjoerddebruin>	 natuur12: Do you know something about this? ^
[19:11:16] <sjoerddebruin>	 Species. :)
[19:12:22] <Josve05a>	 (natur (1 'u') in Swedish means nature :P)
[19:12:58] <natuur12>	 ? Sjoerd?
[19:13:28] <sjoerddebruin>	 natuur12: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4677290 and https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2700975
[19:13:58] <natuur12>	 A different genus
[19:14:07] <JohnLewis>	 natuur12: really? >.>
[19:14:13] <sjoerddebruin>	 It's a mess right now tbh.
[19:14:38] <natuur12>	 The merge could be correct but the person who did the merge must have a source that this species is a synonym I assume
[19:15:04] <JohnLewis>	 natuur12: Wikispecies :p
[19:15:04] <natuur12>	 http://www.iucnredlist.org/details/58791/0 
[19:15:38] <JohnLewis>	 Wikispecies creates a link between both items.
[19:16:14] <JohnLewis>	 The former item name is also a redirect to the latter on enwiki
[19:16:28] <natuur12>	 Never trust en wiki when it comes to taxa
[19:16:54] <JohnLewis>	 I'm not trusting enwiki tbh. I'm mainly going on the Wikispecies part
[19:17:24] <natuur12>	 Chirixalus nongkhorensis is a synonym of Chiromantis nongkhorensis
[19:27:22] <Josve05a>	 Thanks!
[19:27:52] <Josve05a>	 BTW...is the wikicode broken at [[Wikidata:Requests for deletions/Archive/2014/06/01]] >> http://oi59.tinypic.com/15ehlig.jpg
[19:30:05] <Stryn>	 I just saw broken links at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions
[19:30:16] <Stryn>	 broken wikicode*
[19:32:16] <Josve05a>	 JohnLewis ^^ do you know why?
[19:32:55] <Stryn>	 too many templates or something like that...
[19:33:16] <JohnLewis>	 What String said.
[19:33:21] <Stryn>	 ehe
[19:33:30] <Nemo_bis>	 String :o
[19:33:41] <Josve05a>	 String!
[19:33:51] <JohnLewis>	 Nemo_bis: You've clearly never seen half my edit summaries :p
[19:33:54] * JohnLewis finds on
[19:33:57] <Stryn>	 :P
[19:34:36] <Stryn>	 Nemo_bis: do you have a "string" on your stalk list? :)
[19:34:51] <JohnLewis>	 https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Status_updates/Next&diff=114934060&oldid=114933063
[19:37:44] <Nemo_bis>	 Stryn: no, I have a telepathic alert for anti-Finnish distortions
[19:38:50] <Stryn>	 ok, cool :)
[19:48:48] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/136694 (owner: 10L10n-bot)
[20:31:19] <Taketa>	 Hi, what is going on with the autographs?
[20:32:06] <Taketa>	 bottom of this page, the talkpage section is malfunctioning for everyone, I asked magnus manske and it is not the game https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions
[20:35:28] <Josve05a>	 [21:32] <Stryn> too many templates or something like that...
[20:36:11] <Vogone>	 Taketa: fixed
[20:36:29] <Vogone>	 I purged the page
[20:36:38] <Taketa>	 Vogone: ok thnx
[20:37:26] <Vogone>	 tsts, not even JohnLewis was aware of the purge feature, eh?
[20:38:19] <JohnLewis>	 Vogone: huh?
[20:38:57] <Krenair>	 Yeah, I noticed that.
[20:39:10] <Krenair>	 Parser gives up with templates past a certain limit.
[20:39:23] <Krenair>	 IIRC it records this in HTML comments?
[20:40:10] <Taketa>	 learn something every day xd
[21:14:49] <GerardM->	 natuur12 when both have been scientifically published they are NOT synonymous from a taxanomic point of view
[21:15:21] <natuur12>	 So?
[21:16:11] <natuur12>	 There where two Wikidata items about the same article
[21:16:27] <natuur12>	 Ehh species
[21:16:29] <GerardM->	 Chirixalus nongkhorensis may be considered synonymous to Chiromantis nongkhorensis but they are not to be merged
[21:16:50] <GerardM->	 Forget about Wikipedia... this is Wikidata
[21:17:23] <GerardM->	 in Wikidata we have an entry for "Cactus opuntia"
[21:17:38] <natuur12>	 You mean that you actually make items about synonyms?
[21:17:48] <natuur12>	 That's just plain weard 
[21:17:56] <GerardM->	 from a taxonomic point of view they are not
[21:19:27] <natuur12>	 You already said that
[21:20:13] <natuur12>	 But why the heck should you make two items about it?
[21:20:33] <natuur12>	 It is perfectly possible to discribe both in one item 
[21:21:25] <GerardM->	 you do that in Wikipedia
[21:21:27] <GerardM->	 fine
[21:22:09] <natuur12>	 btw I didnot merge anything 
[21:22:28] <GerardM->	 <grijns> did I say that
[21:22:58] <natuur12>	 Where can I find that it is standard practice to make two or more items about the same species?
[22:16:49] <sjoerddebruin>	 Can somebody help adding labels to this? :) https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q17093672
[22:19:07] <sjoerddebruin>	 (or help looking for a duplicate, didn't find one.)
[22:30:28] <Vogone>	 sjoerddebruin: I can't find any either :)
[22:30:40] <sjoerddebruin>	 I was a little bit shocked...
[22:30:48] <sjoerddebruin>	 But I'm running a botrun now. :)
[22:35:09] <GerardM->	 sjoerd I have added quite a number of items for such reasons
[22:36:02] <sjoerddebruin>	 I just choose a random item from https://tools.wmflabs.org/multichill/queries/wikidata/noclaims_nlwiki.txt and see if I can do a botrun.
[22:43:00] <sjoerddebruin>	 Almost 500 trumpeters. :)