[00:17:24] <jayvdb>	 On pywiki change https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/135321/ I raise the issue of 'globecoordinate' vs 'globe-coordinate' both being used in the wikidata interfaces, sometimes even together.  Is there a reason behind this?  Or, are they going to be standardised on one?
[00:49:46] <jayvdb>	 is there a way via api or similar, to detect the namespace that properties and items are in?  i.e. $wgWBRepoSettings['entityNamespaces'][CONTENT_MODEL_WIKIBASE_ITEM]
[00:53:44] <jayvdb>	 One not very nice approach is to do a dummy search (' ') and parse the url field ; i.e. https://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=wbsearchentities&search=%20&language=en&limit=1&type=item
[00:54:44] <jayvdb>	 Ideally it would turn up in https://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&siprop=namespaces or a new siprop=wbnamespaces
[00:55:33] <jayvdb>	 oh, ignore me.  I see it is in siprop=namespaces
[00:55:46] <jayvdb>	 I must be going blind
[01:03:12] <jeremyb_>	 haha
[02:14:53] <jayvdb>	 as content models are a wikidata thang, maybe someone wants to review https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135385 adding pywiki support for them
[07:21:45] <jayvdb>	 Good morning Berlin...  on pywiki change https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/135321/ I raise the issue of 'globecoordinate' vs 'globe-coordinate' both being used in the wikidata interfaces, sometimes even together.  Is there a reason behind this?  Or, are they going to be standardised on one?
[07:31:12] <Adrian_WMDE>	 jayvdb: The one's the DataType's name and the other the DataValue's type
[07:31:29] <Adrian_WMDE>	 There's no reason behind it, but we are stuck with the situation
[07:35:01] <GerardM->	 jdforrester has a Widar session on autopilot ... he makes people female while they are men
[07:36:35] <GerardM->	 Ronald Reagan is now a female
[07:38:36] <ajr>	 yikes
[07:38:45] <Adrian_WMDE>	 seems legit
[08:38:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 031] "@Thiemo: Thanks for fixing! Good to merge now?" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134348 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[08:43:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS8) 10Daniel Kinzler: Introducing EntityContentDataCodec [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134373 
[08:43:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Introducing EntityContentDataCodec [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134373 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[08:47:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS9) 10Daniel Kinzler: Introducing EntityContentDataCodec [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134373 
[08:47:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "PS9 is a rebase" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134373 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[08:50:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134373 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[08:51:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 032] Fix removing a label through wbeditentity with "remove":true [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135327 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65744) (owner: 10Bene)
[08:51:49] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix removing a label through wbeditentity with "remove":true [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135327 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65744) (owner: 10Bene)
[08:54:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134373 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[08:55:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS10) 10Daniel Kinzler: Introducing EntityContentDataCodec [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134373 
[08:59:08] <jayvdb>	 Adrian_WMDE: is the DataValue so widely used that it cant be broken (or support two names to allow migration/peaceful coexistence)?  Is it used outside of Wikidata?
[09:00:32] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/1e3aaf0 : jenkins-bot The build is still failing. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/26032998
[09:00:43] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134373 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[09:01:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS11) 10Daniel Kinzler: Introducing EntityContentDataCodec. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134373 
[09:01:49] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "PS11 is a revert to PS9. Never mind PS10." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134373 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[09:04:20] <Adrian_WMDE>	 jayvdb: Two names would work, but is quite some work. The DataValue's type is stored in the database for every statement with a DataValue of that type.
[09:05:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Daniel Kinzler: Introducing EntityContentDiff [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135044 
[09:06:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-1] "PS5 is a rebase. No idea what happened to PS4." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135044 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[09:08:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134373 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[09:11:14] <jayvdb>	 Adrian_WMDE: are you sure the DataValue's type is stored in the database? I only 'globecoordinate' in the json stored in raw xml https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Export/Q60
[09:12:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135044 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[09:14:13] <Adrian_WMDE>	 I'm pretty sure
[09:14:15] <Adrian_WMDE>	 DarcyNutt
[09:14:23] <Adrian_WMDE>	 Damn, that's wrong
[09:14:25] <Adrian_WMDE>	 https://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=wbgetentities&ids=Q60
[09:14:30] <Adrian_WMDE>	 jayvdb: ^
[09:14:53] <Adrian_WMDE>	 The DataValue's type is 'globecoordinate', the DataType's name is 'globe-coordinate'
[09:15:10] <jayvdb>	 yea, but that is via the API
[09:15:35] <jayvdb>	 which is easier to break than the storage format .. ;-)
[09:16:41] <Adrian_WMDE>	 I think the storage format is pretty similar to that
[09:18:21] <jayvdb>	 I'll look for where the datatype name might be stored; iirc, it is only in cache tables for wikidataquery, which definitely didnt support coords until recently and can be rebuilt if necessary
[09:43:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): "Nice catch. The functionality got broken with this change from 2013-06-03: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/66392/4/repo/includes/api/Ed" (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135327 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65744) (owner: 10Bene)
[09:47:32] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 Tobi_WMDE: daily?
[09:47:57] <Adrian_WMDE>	 DanielK_WMDE__: Yes please
[09:48:25] <Tobi_WMDE>	 DanielK_WMDE__: we're waiting..
[10:00:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10WikidataBuilder: New Wikidata Build - 26/05/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135409 
[10:08:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 032] Fix typos in comments [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135306 (owner: 10Aude)
[10:08:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix typos in comments [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135306 (owner: 10Aude)
[10:08:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135409 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder)
[10:16:15] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/b0f6b70 : jenkins-bot The build is still failing. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/26037395
[10:38:44] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Fix broken documentation in Client [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135416 
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[10:47:44] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15adrianlang 04force-pushed 06refactorExperts from 1451f76e0 to 14c4dce8d: 02http://git.io/XLBMGw
[10:47:44] <gh-wmde>	 13ValueView/06refactorExperts 14c4dce8d 15Adrian Lang: Factor inputextender and content out of time and globecoordinate experts...
[10:51:11] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15adrianlang created 06jshint (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/NWWQVg
[10:51:11] <gh-wmde>	 13ValueView/06jshint 149426771 15Adrian Lang: Update jshint config...
[10:53:23] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15adrianlang opened pull request #55: Update jshint config (06master...06jshint) 02http://git.io/ZTRUCQ
[10:58:47] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15addshore pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/kd-qng
[10:58:47] <gh-wmde>	 13ValueView/06master 1412d702a 15addshore: Merge pull request #55 from wmde/jshint...
[11:02:21] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15adrianlang 04force-pushed 06refactorExperts from 14c4dce8d to 145ea6f9d: 02http://git.io/XLBMGw
[11:02:21] <gh-wmde>	 13ValueView/06refactorExperts 145ea6f9d 15Adrian Lang: Factor inputextender and content out of time and globecoordinate experts...
[12:25:12] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Fix broken documentation in Lib [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135420 
[12:27:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS6) 10Daniel Kinzler: Introducing EntityContentDiff [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135044 
[12:32:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135420 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[12:36:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135044 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[12:37:03] <Tobi_WMDE>	 aude: DanielK_WMDE__: Thiemo_WMDE: can we close https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62495? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/134663/ was related to the last comment in the bug I guess but not referenced. 
[12:59:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Fix broken documentation in Repo [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135424 
[13:06:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135424 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[13:10:59] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15adrianlang created 06getMessage (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/wEsagA
[13:10:59] <gh-wmde>	 13ValueView/06getMessage 14d5deb12 15Adrian Lang: Make MessageProvider.getMessage adhere to it's documented interface
[13:11:39] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15adrianlang opened pull request #56: Make MessageProvider.getMessage adhere to it's documented interface (06master...06getMessage) 02http://git.io/jBWTLQ
[13:17:34] <Adrian_WMDE>	 Lydia_WMDE: https://github.com/wmde/ValueView/pull/51
[13:17:40] <Adrian_WMDE>	 Lydia_WMDE: I meant https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65770
[13:25:17] <aude>	 Tobi_WMDE: not yet
[13:26:01] <aude>	 one more (somewhat easy) thing to clean up in snak html code
[13:45:06] <aude>	 Tobi_WMDE: Lydia_WMDE any idea why https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65398 has 13 points?
[13:46:05] <Tobi_WMDE>	 aude: because it includes actually investigating the issue. nobody knew why this was happening when we estimated. and probably still nobody does?
[13:46:24] <Lydia_WMDE>	 yeah
[13:46:59] <aude>	 ok
[14:01:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Make EditEntityTest run hook code [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135425 
[14:07:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135425 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[14:14:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: Introduce EntityIdLookup (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134727 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65507) (owner: 10Michał Łazowik)
[14:14:44] <lazowik>	 aude: NamespaceUtils::getEntityNamespace( CONTENT_MODEL_WIKIBASE_ITEM )
[14:14:45] <lazowik>	 first test
[14:14:53] <lazowik>	 that is Item namespace
[14:15:09] <aude>	 hmmmm ok
[14:15:12] <lazowik>	 also per Jeroen this will be probably done in another place
[14:16:01] <lazowik>	 aude: but I have no idea where
[14:16:10] <lazowik>	 so either of two things can happen
[14:16:29] <lazowik>	 JeroenDeDauw can tell where should that be 
[14:16:32] <aude>	 shall look in more detail in a bit
[14:16:40] <aude>	 can't say where to put it
[14:16:52] <lazowik>	 or I can read "Clean code" and maybe I'll be able to figure that out then :p
[14:17:00] <aude>	 NamespaceUtils::getEntityNamespace() seems to depend on settings
[14:17:06] <aude>	 so having it in the tests might be an issue
[14:17:26] <lazowik>	 also Jeroen wants to get rid of NamespaceUtils whatsoever
[14:17:31] <aude>	 +1
[14:18:10] <lazowik>	 so I think I'll read clean code
[14:18:15] <lazowik>	 then do a bit of refactoring
[14:18:25] <aude>	 ok
[14:18:26] <lazowik>	 and then this the proper way
[14:19:08] <lazowik>	 can a patch be "de-abanoded" ?
[14:19:09] <lazowik>	 on gerrit
[14:19:31] <aude>	 it can
[14:19:33] <lazowik>	 most likely what is now is of no use
[14:19:35] <aude>	 "restore"
[14:19:36] <lazowik>	 ok
[14:19:42] <lazowik>	 thx
[14:20:23] <aude>	 probably entity content factory is not the rieght place (agree)
[14:20:47] <aude>	 since daniel wants to have title more separate from entity content, generally
[14:20:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Abandoned) 10Michał Łazowik: Introduce EntityIdLookup [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134727 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65507) (owner: 10Michał Łazowik)
[14:21:30] <aude>	 currently, EntityContentFactory implements a bunch of interfaces like EntityTitleLookup
[14:21:38] <aude>	 should be split, imho
[14:21:47] <lazowik>	 mhm
[14:21:56] <lazowik>	 so that's what I'll probably do
[14:22:10] <aude>	 great
[14:22:33] <lazowik>	 aude: should I remove PATCH_TO_REVIEW from bug now?
[14:22:33] <lazowik>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65507
[14:22:33] <aude>	 sure
[14:22:47] <lazowik>	 hmm
[14:22:50] <lazowik>	 to what acutally
[14:22:53] <lazowik>	 assigned?
[14:23:11] <aude>	 i suppose so
[14:35:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Add test for static RepoHooks::onMakeGlobalVariablesScript [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135432 
[14:41:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135432 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[14:52:15] <nikki>	 in the last couple of days I've been getting prompts from my browser saying that wikidata and wikipedia sites are trying to go over the limit for the storage space they're allowed to have and asking if I want to allocate more... but when I look at what's stored in local storage, session storage and even cookies, there's only a couple of small things
[14:52:19] <nikki>	 maybe because I said no...
[14:57:05] <aude>	 nikki: might be related to https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64721
[14:57:34] <nikki>	 ah, thanks, that sounds likely
[14:57:46] <aude>	 and maybe https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65364#c3
[14:58:13] <aude>	 looks like folks are looking into it
[14:58:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Optimized repo imports [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135031 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[15:05:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135031 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[15:31:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 031] "If you think this ends the world... I removed the files. Now what?" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135031 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[15:37:49] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Unify imports of namespace-less classes [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135437 
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[15:55:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Remove deprecated Lib/FormattingException [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135440 
[16:00:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135440 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[16:01:51] <JustBerry>	 JohnLewis: Are you a chanop?
[16:01:53] <JustBerry>	 :O
[16:02:14] <JohnLewis>	 Yes...
[16:02:23] <JustBerry>	 JohnLewis: The thing is, I don't really know what to do on Wikidata
[16:02:28] <JohnLewis>	 oh reminds me, Lydia_WMDE: ping
[16:02:38] <JustBerry>	 I've edited a few data things... but...
[16:02:57] <JohnLewis>	 JustBerry: We have a few tutorials around plus maybe some people in here who have time to teach new contributors how to edit? (pokes the channel)
[16:03:23] <JustBerry>	 JohnLewis: Here's a random data thing: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5540371
[16:03:25] <JustBerry>	 JohnLewis: Now what?
[16:03:49] <JustBerry>	 JohnLewis: I used: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Random
[16:03:58] <JohnLewis>	 JustBerry: Query so we don't flood the channel.
[16:04:04] <JohnLewis>	 Lydia_WMDE: same, query :p
[16:04:15] <JustBerry>	 JustBerry: Why,,,
[16:04:26] <JustBerry>	 JohnLewis: Why.. there are other people in here...
[16:04:32] <JustBerry>	 JohnLewis: To help you help me :D
[16:05:40] <Jianhui67>	 JohnLewis, she is a girl after all. You keep pinging her :p 
[16:06:04] <JohnLewis>	 Jianhui67: Who Lydia?
[16:06:10] <Jianhui67>	 *woman
[16:06:15] <Jianhui67>	 ps ps
[16:06:19] <Jianhui67>	 yes
[16:06:37] <JohnLewis>	 Yes, who is the Product manager and works for WMDE in Berlin :p
[16:07:13] <Jianhui67>	 yeah you ping and ping until she gets annoyed xD
[16:08:09] <JohnLewis>	 I ping her when I need her. She does the same to me but she mostly does it via email
[16:08:44] <Jianhui67>	 oh
[16:31:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Remove deprecated Lib/FormattingException [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135440 
[16:37:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135440 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[16:39:14] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15thiemowmde comment on pull request #56 14d5deb12: Why the `null`? 02http://git.io/Q-tJRQ
[17:18:39] <Josve05a>	 http://oi58.tinypic.com/sqgjg8.jpg  << something is buggy with Wikidata...
[17:19:47] <Josve05a>	 Should I report to bz, or is it allready tracked?
[17:21:24] <JohnLewis>	 Lydia_WMDE ^
[17:22:08] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Josve05a: yes that's known. we're working on a fix
[17:22:33] <Josve05a>	 oh good. I couldn't find it on bz, so I thought it was something wrong with my browser.
[17:24:50] <Josve05a>	 BTW...If I find one reference that someone is born on 15 September, and 1 reference that that person was born on 1923, is it possible to "seperate" the references, to just be a reference for "a part of the statement", like a footnote?
[17:29:04] <Josve05a>	 (I don't know who to ping... Lydia_WMDE ? ^)
[17:30:26] <JohnLewis>	 Josve05a: it is not technically possible in a way the community likes AFAIK.
[17:30:48] <JustBerry>	 JohnLewis: Do you know how to run a wiki bot?
[17:31:08] <JustBerry>	 John
[17:31:09] <JohnLewis>	 A lot in this channel do Jurgen|afk.
[17:31:15] <JohnLewis>	 * JustBerry ^
[17:31:21] <JustBerry>	 JohnLewis: ?
[17:31:58] <JohnLewis>	 JustBerry: Look at a bot framework like pywikipedia is all I can say tbh
[17:32:02] <Josve05a>	 JohnLewis: thanks...
[17:32:10] <JustBerry>	 JohnLewis: Can I ask you a specific bot?
[17:32:12] <JustBerry>	 Josve05a: Halo
[17:32:14] <JustBerry>	 :D
[17:32:26] <JohnLewis>	 Josve05a: Just put the full date in and reference both :p
[17:32:33] <lazowik>	 JohnLewis: you're so popular!
[17:32:38] <Josve05a>	 JustBerry I run a bot. Josvebot.
[17:32:38] <lazowik>	 wikidata star :D
[17:32:49] <JustBerry>	 Josve05a: Really? Where
[17:32:59] <JohnLewis>	 lazowik: I'm popular everywhere :D
[17:33:05] <Josve05a>	 on Wikipedia ofc.
[17:33:08] <JustBerry>	 Josve05a: Why aren't you an admin by now!?@#?!
[17:33:17] <JohnLewis>	 lazowik: have you not seen my email and username places everywhere :p
[17:33:26] <Josve05a>	 got voted down by 0/38/3 or something JustBerry
[17:33:38] <JustBerry>	 Josve05a: 1?@#!?#?@!#?!@#?@#?!?#!@#?!@?#?!#?!@#?!@?#?!#?!?@#!??!@#?!?#?@#?!@?#!?#!?#?!@?#!?@?#!?#?!#@
[17:33:45] <JustBerry>	 Josve05a: I'M OPENING AN RFA D:
[17:33:47] <JustBerry>	 NOW.
[17:33:52] <JustBerry>	 sorry, off-topic
[17:33:54] <JustBerry>	 @JohnLewis
[17:34:09] <JohnLewis>	 huh?
[17:34:23] <lazowik>	 JohnLewis: yeah, all around :p
[17:34:53] <JohnLewis>	 lazowik: Such as where? :p
[17:35:00] * JohnLewis may need it oversighted ;)
[17:35:01] <lazowik>	 you know
[17:35:03] <lazowik>	 around
[17:35:59] <Sannita>	 lol
[17:36:25] <lazowik>	 no that's the moment when I have no idea to what that 'lol' refers to :p
[17:56:58] <lazowik>	 *now
[17:57:13] <lazowik>	 much reflex
[17:59:09] <Sannita>	 lazowik: to JustBerry's lines
[17:59:26] <Sannita>	 sorry, my bad, I should've contextualised :)
[17:59:30] <lazowik>	 :)
[18:34:21] <Krenair>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Sirjordad -> vandal
[18:35:15] <Krenair>	 went unnoticed for a surprisingly long time (4-5 hours)
[18:36:57] <hoo>	 Krenair: Yeah :/ There's a bit of a vandalism problem on wikidata at time
[18:37:14] <sjoerddebruin>	 Just give warnings and report them if they don't stop.
[18:37:44] <Krenair>	 sjoerddebruin, do we have any warning templates?
[18:37:46] <hoo>	 sjoerddebruin: I think the usual problem is that nobody notices them sometimes :/
[18:38:12] <sjoerddebruin>	 Krenair: I use the script of benestar. "importScript( 'User:Bene*/userwarn.js' );" in your common.js. :)
[18:38:42] <sjoerddebruin>	 hoo: I sometimes track them in the maintaince category of commonscats on nlwiki hoo.
[18:38:47] <Krenair>	 sjoerddebruin, ty
[18:39:18] <benestar>	 hoo: the abuse filter does not catch these edits, too
[18:39:27] <benestar>	 because the diff only contains item ids :/
[18:39:59] <sjoerddebruin>	 Improvements regarding beating vandalism, I will like them... :/
[18:40:42] <hoo>	 benestar: I don't think AbuseFilter can be much of a help here at all... it's so :/
[19:11:39] <hoo>	 aude: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134981
[19:12:00] <hoo>	 Are you willing to work on that soonish? Or shall I produce a minimal fix
[19:15:14] <Krenair>	 hm, ran into a parsing issue by clicking save on https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q9027570&action=submit&undo=133869600&undoafter=114588374
[19:15:18] <benestar>	 Lydia_WMDE: question: does it make sense to develop a basic badges UI on repo before the UI redesign??
[19:15:21] <Krenair>	 "Site link [//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categoria:Arm%C3%A9e_de_terre itwiki:Categoria:Arm�e de terre] is already used by item [[Q7431111|Q7431111]]."
[19:16:13] <Krenair>	 is that known?
[19:16:22] <sjoerddebruin>	 Krenair: The error is clearly? It's already linked on Q7431111.
[19:16:37] <benestar>	 Krenair: this means that the sitelink in the mean time has been moved to Q7431111
[19:16:37] <hoo>	 Yep, the error si supposed to appear
[19:16:41] <Krenair>	 also, I guess that makes Q9027570 a dupe of Q7431111 - no idea how wikidata usually handles these...
[19:16:56] <benestar>	 Krenair: there's a gadget, merge.js
[19:17:25] <Poulpy>	 Good evening, afternoon, morning.
[19:17:34] <benestar>	 hoo: will wikibase support the merge gadget natively in some time?
[19:17:51] <hoo>	 benestar: No, there's a merge API already
[19:18:08] <Krenair>	 sjoerddebruin, yes, I can read tyvm
[19:18:17] <hoo>	 if someone wants a more advanced merge special page, that needs-volunteer for now
[19:18:31] <benestar>	 hoo: there already exists one
[19:18:32] <Krenair>	 sjoerddebruin, The problem is that the wikitext error it shows has not been put through the parser
[19:18:40] <benestar>	 I think it is still experimental
[19:18:42] <sjoerddebruin>	 Hm.
[19:18:50] <hoo>	 benestar: No, but it's pretty basic
[19:18:54] <hoo>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:MergeItems
[19:18:59] <Krenair>	 hoo, benestar: ^
[19:19:04] <benestar>	 yep, I created it :P
[19:27:13] <benestar>	 Krenair: ah, now I got it
[19:27:53] <benestar>	 not sure
[19:28:04] <Krenair>	 Not sure about what?
[19:28:26] <benestar>	 if it is known...
[19:28:43] <lazowik>	 benestar: not parsing wikitext in error bubbles?
[19:28:44] <benestar>	 Krenair: I will create a bug :)
[19:28:53] <benestar>	 lazowik: no, after undo failed
[19:28:56] <Krenair>	 Ah, okay
[19:29:02] <Krenair>	 benestar, I can create bugs myself
[19:29:05] <Krenair>	 But, okay
[19:29:20] <benestar>	 Krenair: if you want, just do it ;)
[19:31:11] <Krenair>	 benestar, https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65782
[19:32:43] <benestar>	 Krenair: subscribed :)
[19:35:20] <hoo>	 Krenair: [...] make sure this is at least currently escaped(!).
[19:35:22] <hoo>	 what?
[19:36:37] <Krenair>	 hoo, Since it's not being parsed as it should, I figured it might be a good idea to at least check that it's not sending just anything to the client
[19:37:29] <hoo>	 Krenair: Even if it were, you aren't able to inject arbitrary stuff into it... they have to be valid titles. But I doubt taht's an issue after all
[19:38:18] <Krenair>	 hoo, yeah, I hadn't considered that
[19:39:44] <Krenair>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q175211 -> AKA East Francia, which is https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q153080
[19:40:56] <Krenair>	 Looks like I can't add AKA "Kingdom of Germany" to Q175211 due to this. ("Malformed input: East Francia")
[20:14:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Parse error messages in EditEntity::showErrorPage [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135489 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65782) 
[20:22:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135485 (owner: 10L10n-bot)
[20:23:05] <benestar>	 Lydia_WMDE: around now?
[20:26:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135489 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65782) (owner: 10Hoo man)
[21:45:12] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): "No test? Would be good to have one. Maybe you can modify the message in an existing test to trigger this error?" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135489 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65782) (owner: 10Hoo man)
[21:54:12] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hoo man: "Writing a test for this isn't trivial, so I doubt that's worth it." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135489 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65782) (owner: 10Hoo man)
[22:01:45] <Krenair>	 hoo, here's another one: trying to add "succeeded by" "First French Empire" to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q877619 gives "Uncaught TypeError: Cannot use 'in' operator to search for '11' in xx-x-x-x-xxx"
[22:03:49] <hoo>	 oh well... looking
[22:05:55] <hoo>	 worksforme
[22:09:35] <Krenair>	 hmph.
[23:18:30] <lazowik>	 'nigth
[23:22:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Aude: Focus snakview variation only when viewState is enabled [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135498 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65694) 
[23:22:55] <Krenair>	 hoo, sigh, getting that error still when trying to add other statements on other items...
[23:23:38] <Krenair>	 looking at the stack trace, it's from 'isArraylike' which is called by jQuery.extend.each.
[23:24:51] <Krenair>	 did not occur when I used debug=true though. wtf?
[23:26:59] <aude>	 looks like jquery compatibility issue
[23:27:17] <aude>	 think we fixed it, unless it's something else
[23:28:17] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135498 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65694) (owner: 10Aude)
[23:30:33] <hoo>	 aude: Possible... :/ Hope the deploy will fix all the stuffs
[23:40:34] <aude>	 hoo: should help kick the caches
[23:40:47] <aude>	 the error sounds rather familiar
[23:41:17] <hoo>	 Yeah... but I couldn't even reproduce (didn't try hard), so I wasn't able to track it down
[23:42:35] <aude>	 it's from the guid generator
[23:42:47] <aude>	 did $.each() on a string which no longer works
[23:43:13] <aude>	 if there are caching issues, then claim guid generator needs to be touched
[23:43:23] <hoo>	 mh
[23:43:25] <hoo>	 I can do that
[23:43:32] * aude didn't see them though on wikidata (only on test.wikidata or beta)
[23:43:35] <aude>	 k
[23:44:14] <hoo>	 aude: wikibase.utilities.GuidGenerator.js
[23:44:23] <aude>	 touch claim guid generator
[23:44:27] <hoo>	 or wikibase.utilities.ClaimGuidGenerator.js ?
[23:44:27] <aude>	 or both
[23:44:34] <hoo>	 ok
[23:44:49] <aude>	 touch only guid generator does not kick the local storage timestamp 
[23:44:58] * aude fixed it on beta
[23:50:34] <hoo>	 aude: Any way we can verify?
[23:50:49] <aude>	 one sec
[23:52:58] <aude>	 wikibase.utilities.ClaimGuidGenerator@1401147958
[23:53:05] <aude>	 wikibase.utilities.GuidGenerator@1401147958
[23:53:09] <aude>	 looks good to me
[23:53:43] <hoo>	 Krenair: It might work for you now
[23:53:53] <aude>	 that should trigger to refresh js
[23:55:14] <Krenair>	 hoo, seems to work
[23:55:18] <hoo>	 \o/
[23:56:11] <aude>	 yay