[08:28:41] <matanya>	 Lydia_WMDE: morning
[08:40:52] <Lydia_WMDE>	 matanya: hey
[08:41:34] <matanya>	 Lydia_WMDE: he.wiki suffers from an annoying bug, https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65472 can you please have a look ?
[08:42:22] <Lydia_WMDE>	 matanya: ewww
[08:42:28] <Lydia_WMDE>	 thanks
[08:42:31] <Lydia_WMDE>	 will have a look
[08:42:49] <matanya>	 confirmed by multiple editors and anons :)
[08:43:34] <matanya>	 thank you very much
[09:39:13] <lazowik>	 hey
[09:42:35] <lazowik>	 DanielK_WMDE: what's the proper™ way to get canonical uri?
[09:42:46] <lazowik>	 to display it on action=info
[09:46:18] <DanielK_WMDE>	 lazowik: honestly, I'm no longer sure. I'll have to look where the RDF serializer gets the URIs from.
[09:46:41] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Tobi_WMDE, aude: daily?
[09:47:40] <lazowik>	 DanielK_WMDE: I can take a look
[09:54:26] <DanielK_WMDE>	 lazowik: WikibaseRepo::getRdfBaseUri() is currently the best we can do, I'm afraid
[09:55:09] <DanielK_WMDE>	 lazowik: For the document URIs, you'll have to go via SpecialEntityData, askk for it'S title, then ask the title for a URI (with the relevant subpage string)
[09:55:36] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Lydia_WMDE: am I late, or are you?...
[09:55:51] <lazowik>	 DanielK_WMDE: EntityDataUriManager ?
[09:58:46] <DanielK_WMDE>	 lazowik: The idea behind that class was to do just this, yes. But it needs the special page's title as input. And only supports document URIs, not the copncept URI.
[09:58:57] <DanielK_WMDE>	 You could of course add that. Would make sense to me.
[09:59:34] * DanielK_WMDE  wonders if there was some suptle reason not to do that in the first place

[10:00:24] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10WikidataBuilder: New Wikidata Build - 19/05/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134066 
[10:04:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "@Thiemo: Can you given an example? But basically: EntityContent currently knows "its" title. It should not, Content objects should not kno" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/131965 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[10:04:23] <lazowik>	 DanielK_WMDE: public function getDocName( EntityId $id, $format = '' )
[10:04:33] <lazowik>	 and if I leave $format = ''
[10:05:05] <DanielK_WMDE>	 lazowik: that will give you the format neutral document uri. that is not the concept uri.
[10:05:11] <lazowik>	 ah
[10:05:12] <lazowik>	 right
[10:05:34] <DanielK_WMDE>	 .../entity/Q123 <-- a concept
[10:05:50] <DanielK_WMDE>	 .../wiki/Special:EntityData/Q123 <--- a document describing that concept
[10:05:59] <DanielK_WMDE>	 .../wiki/Special:EntityData/Q123.json <--- a serialization of that document
[10:06:13] <lazowik>	 yeah, got that
[10:06:21] <DanielK_WMDE>	 .../entity/Q123.json <--- works, but has no clear semantics
[10:07:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134066 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder)
[10:15:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Daniel Kinzler: Minimize usage of EntityContent / ECFactory [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/131965 
[10:16:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Daniel Kinzler: Attempt to clean-up and refactor ChangeOp and Validators code [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133523 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[10:19:49] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-1] "This sneaks a logic change into ChangeOpAliasses that shouldn't be in a patch that is about formatting/readability..." (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133523 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[10:23:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/131965 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[10:26:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-1] "Fails with format=xml: Exception Caught: Internal error in ApiFormatXml::recXmlPrint: (badges, ...) has integer keys without _element valu" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/125886 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/63486) (owner: 10Bene)
[10:26:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133523 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[10:27:10] <olivd>	 hi ! I'm looking for the best way to create an entity using the API, I was expecting to find some a "wbcreatentity" or something
[10:33:15] <DanielK_WMDE>	 olivd: wbeditentity
[10:33:52] <DanielK_WMDE>	 olivd: you need set new="item" instead of id="Q1234" in the structure. that's it.
[10:35:16] <olivd>	 DanielK_WMDE: ok I'll try that, thanks !
[10:35:59] <DanielK_WMDE>	 olivd: if you have a suggestion on hwo to better document this / make this more obvious, please file a feature request!
[10:38:06] <lazowik>	 Lydia_WMDE: how do you want the table in action=info to look?
[10:38:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "@aude: maybe it would make sense to change the SnakFormatter interface to return a Status object, which can include the actual value along" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133286 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/63299) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[10:38:26] <lazowik>	 canonical uri | uri
[10:38:34] <lazowik>	 export | different formats in separate lines
[10:38:35] <lazowik>	 or
[10:38:40] <lazowik>	 export json | url
[10:38:44] <lazowik>	 export rdf | url
[10:38:45] <lazowik>	 etc.
[10:39:22] <DanielK_WMDE>	 i would prefer the latter
[10:39:33] <lazowik>	 mhm
[10:39:33] <DanielK_WMDE>	 and I wonder whether we should include the canonical document uri, too.
[10:39:53] <lazowik>	 like doc but without extension?
[10:39:54] <DanielK_WMDE>	 i think it's important to show both, the concept and the document uri, and label them clearly, to avoid confusion
[10:40:05] <DanielK_WMDE>	 if only one uri is present, peopl.e will use it for the wrong thing, too
[10:40:31] <DanielK_WMDE>	 lazowik: yes, the doc without extension. that'S the canonical uri of the description, independant of serialization
[10:40:41] <lazowik>	 mhm
[10:44:38] <olivd>	 DanielK_WMDE: is there a reference about how put in data ? (The serialized object that is used as the data source)
[10:44:53] <olivd>	 *how=>what to
[10:45:17] <lazowik>	 DanielK_WMDE: and how to get entity id from title
[10:45:24] <lazowik>	 i see the other way round only
[10:48:54] <DanielK_WMDE>	 lazowik: there is currently no good way to do this. the hackish way is to use an EntityIdParser on the plain text of the title (without namespace)
[10:49:06] <DanielK_WMDE>	 this will currently work, but there is no guarantee that it will work in the future
[10:49:06] <lazowik>	 mpfh
[10:49:33] <lazowik>	 maybe I'll resolve that first?
[10:49:38] <DanielK_WMDE>	 lazowik: EntityPerPage should provide a function for looking up the ID for a given Title; and/or there should be an inverse of the EntityTitleLookup interface.
[10:49:42] <Adrian_WMDE>	 DanielK_WMDE: I see you typing :P
[10:49:44] <DanielK_WMDE>	 feel free to add that :)
[10:51:07] <lazowik>	 hmm
[10:55:56] <lazowik>	 DanielK_WMDE: and then getIdForTitle can just cut the namespace?
[11:00:42] <DanielK_WMDE>	 lazowik: for now, for items and properties, yes
[12:29:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] New Wikidata Build - 19/05/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134066 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder)
[12:32:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: New Wikidata Build - 19/05/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134066 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder)
[12:39:00] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseQuery] 15adrianlang pushed 3 new commits to 06dbal: 02http://git.io/fzus8Q
[12:39:00] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseQuery/06dbal 14e71cc17 15Adrian Lang: Correct SQlite db initialization
[12:39:00] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseQuery/06dbal 14d1c02aa 15Adrian Lang: Actually reset extension on setting builder
[12:39:00] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseQuery/06dbal 14ffb5ffd 15Adrian Lang: Do not use temporary tables for tests...
[12:42:05] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseQuery/dbal/ffb5ffd : Adrian Lang The build has errored. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseQuery/builds/25512408
[12:42:30] <Lydia_WMDE>	 DanielK_WMDE: wikisym is asking for a picture of you
[12:56:29] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Adrian_WMDE: how long before you start smashing things?
[13:21:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Attempt to clean-up and refactor ChangeOp and Validators code (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133523 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[13:22:41] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Lydia_WMDE: already sent this morning, thanks
[13:30:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Attempt to clean-up and refactor ChangeOp and Validators code [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133523 
[13:35:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133523 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[13:36:53] <lazowik>	 DanielK_WMDE: haven't found a bug for getting id by title, shall I make one?
[13:45:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134066 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder)
[13:56:19] <Lydia_WMDE>	 DanielK_WMDE: cool thanks :)
[14:00:02] <apsdehal>	 Hello everyone, as per the rdf model, do we have range and domain available for our properties?
[14:21:39] <DanielK_WMDE>	 apsdehal: Currently, the rdf mapping is incomplete, there are no statements in there. We'll pix that, but it's not there yet.
[14:22:29] <apsdehal>	 So in future we have to make wikidata a complete rdf model?
[14:22:57] <DanielK_WMDE>	 yes. no. the software will provide a "low level" rdf mapping. BUT:
[14:23:17] <DanielK_WMDE>	 ...as to range and domain: not in the OWL sense. That just doesn't apply IMHO. Range and domain would require to also use OWL-like instanceof/subclass relations. But Wikibase/Wikidata does not contain such information.
[14:23:48] <DanielK_WMDE>	 We have claims/statements, not facts. Having a *claim* that sais that X is-a Y is not the same as *stating* that X is-a Y.
[14:24:47] <apsdehal>	 Thanks a lot for information, DanielK_WMDE
[14:24:50] <DanielK_WMDE>	 So, in wikibase, we can, on the OWL level, assert that the thing on page Q123 is an instance of the Item class, and the item class is a siblcass of the Entity class. And the domain of the has-claim relation is Entity.
[14:25:24] <DanielK_WMDE>	 but that'S all on the structural level. On the content level, we can't make such hard claims. We don't want to either. That's exactly what makes Wikibase more flexible and "deep" than (most) other knowledge bases
[14:25:32] <DanielK_WMDE>	 apsdehal: i hope that makes sense.
[14:25:51] <apsdehal>	 Yes, I got what wikidata aims at.
[14:55:18] <aude>	 Tobi_WMDE: is someone working on the jquery issues?
[14:55:41] <Stryn>	 Lydia_WMDE: you wrote that the Office hour will be in 1 hour, but isn't it 2 hours? I mean it's now 2 hours till 5pm.
[14:55:45] <Stryn>	 2 hours till 5pm (UTC)
[14:56:34] <aude>	 oooh, office hours
[14:56:46] <JohnLewis>	 Stryn: I've already told her :)
[14:56:57] <JohnLewis>	 aude: Yeah, I forced her to organise one :p
[14:57:01] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Stryn: yeah just got poked by JohnLewis as well :D
[14:57:04] <Lydia_WMDE>	 thanks for having my back!
[14:57:28] <Stryn>	 :)
[15:04:29] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw created 06da (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/3vxf3g
[15:04:29] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06da 14e166011 15jeroendedauw: Remove deprecated and unused aliases
[15:08:23] <Tobi_WMDE>	 aude: no, not that I know
[15:08:27] <Tobi_WMDE>	 atm
[15:10:43] <aude>	 ok
[15:11:01] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw opened pull request #92: Remove deprecated and unused aliases (06master...06da) 02http://git.io/VoCPqw
[15:31:10] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15thiemowmde comment on pull request #87 14376182e: So this means we will have two different definitions of what "best" means? `ClaimList::getBestClaims` does something very different than `Claims::getBestClaims`. 02http://git.io/m9JBcA
[15:53:17] <GerardM->	 hoi.. is the office hour here or in #wikimedia-office ?
[15:53:42] <GerardM->	 either way it would be nice if the header of the channel says so
[15:53:51] <Lydia_WMDE>	 GerardM-: in #wikimedia-office
[16:00:29] <JohnLewis>	 Lydia_WMDE: {{done}}
[16:00:56] <Lydia_WMDE>	 \o/
[16:09:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Aude: Make tooltip details compatible with jquery 1.9 [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134104 
[16:14:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134104 (owner: 10Aude)
[16:26:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Aude: Make tooltip details compatible with jquery 1.9 [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134104 
[16:29:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Aude: Make tooltip details compatible with jquery 1.9 [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134104 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65492) 
[16:34:24] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134104 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65492) (owner: 10Aude)
[16:37:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134104 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65492) (owner: 10Aude)
[16:38:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Aude: Converted $.each() to plain for() loop in GuidGenerator [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf4) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134114 
[16:43:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf4) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134114 (owner: 10Aude)
[16:47:21] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw comment on pull request #87 14376182e: We have one, though it's incorrectly implemented in `Claims`. 02http://git.io/E-KQ2A
[16:47:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Aude: Add type hint in ApiClientInfo + fix test [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf4) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134115 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65440) 
[16:50:08] <JohnLewis>	 Just a reminder; Wikidata office hour in #wikimedia-office in 10 minutes :)
[16:53:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf4) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134115 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65440) (owner: 10Aude)
[16:53:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Add type hint in ApiClientInfo + fix test [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf4) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134115 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65440) (owner: 10Aude)
[16:54:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add type hint in ApiClientInfo + fix test [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf4) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134115 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65440) (owner: 10Aude)
[16:56:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Aude: Converted $.each() to plain for() loop in GuidGenerator [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf4) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134114 
[16:58:10] <GerardM->	 spetter spetter sjoerddedouche 
[16:58:30] <sjoerddedouche>	 Oei ik zal het gordijn even dicht doen. :)
[17:00:01] <GerardM->	 :) dank
[17:02:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf4) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134114 (owner: 10Aude)
[17:02:51] <greg-g>	 Lydia_WMDE: hey, quick question re the Other projects sidebar if you're still around.
[17:04:12] <aude>	 she's in office hours
[17:04:17] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 where is that?
[17:04:25] <aude>	 #wikimedia-office
[17:04:34] <greg-g>	 oops
[17:05:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Converted $.each() to plain for() loop in GuidGenerator [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf4) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134114 (owner: 10Aude)
[17:05:15] <greg-g>	 anyone else know about Other projects sidebar?
[17:05:30] <aude>	 yes?
[17:05:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Converted $.each() to plain for() loop in GuidGenerator [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf4) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134114 (owner: 10Aude)
[17:05:42] <greg-g>	 so, I'm confused, is it a "beta feature" or not?
[17:05:54] <aude>	 it will be
[17:06:04] <greg-g>	 this says it's already deployed: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/120595/
[17:06:14] <greg-g>	 also, is it just a part of wikibase?
[17:06:15] <aude>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/132606/
[17:06:20] <aude>	 only wikibse
[17:06:34] <aude>	 right now, it's opt-in per wiki
[17:06:53] <aude>	 so a few have opted in and then it's for everyone
[17:06:54] <greg-g>	 so, it seems it isn't doing the beta feature thing if its already enabled for all users on frwiki :)
[17:06:59] <aude>	 right
[17:07:13] <greg-g>	 so, the only thing I care about is code reviews, really
[17:07:22] <greg-g>	 well, and timing/communication
[17:07:23] <aude>	 i suppose it's to allow more people to try on other wikis
[17:07:34] <aude>	 as beta
[17:16:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Aude: New build, jquery 1.9 compat fix and api compat change [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.24-wmf4) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134127 
[17:26:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.24-wmf4) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134127 (owner: 10Aude)
[17:26:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] New build, jquery 1.9 compat fix and api compat change [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.24-wmf4) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134127 (owner: 10Aude)
[17:28:53] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: "returning Status might be ok, though not sure it's absolutely necessary." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133286 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/63299) (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[17:32:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: New build, jquery 1.9 compat fix and api compat change [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.24-wmf4) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134127 (owner: 10Aude)
[18:00:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 04-2 V: 04-1] "Both the old and my new code is completely broken. The only reason why the tests never fail is because they are all comparing instances wi" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133523 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[18:58:34] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15thiemowmde pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/p12btw
[18:58:34] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06master 146516f90 15thiemowmde: Merge pull request #92 from wmde/da...
[19:07:06] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15thiemowmde comment on pull request #87 14376182e: So the other one needs to be deprecated and marked as being wrong. 02http://git.io/M3R6eg
[20:20:29] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw comment on pull request #87 14376182e: Because its behaviour is relied upon. And because that would not help me to begin with, since where I need this I do not want to use the `Claims` class. 02http://git.io/ZGya2Q
[20:21:51] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/ZZOFwQ
[20:21:51] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06master 14b1bafeb 15Jeroen De Dauw: Update README.md
[20:22:08] <lazowik|afk>	 DanielK_WMDE: "DanielK_WMDE: haven't found a bug for getting id by title, shall I make one?" <- my question from few hours ago :p
[20:22:26] <lazowik|afk>	 hmm, it's actually more of a general one
[20:22:27] <lazowik|afk>	 so
[20:22:55] <lazowik|afk>	 Lydia_WMDE: anyone: if there is no bug for sth shall I make one or just submit patch?
[20:23:16] <Lydia_WMDE>	 lazowik|afk: no need to create one if you already have a patch
[20:23:29] <lazowik|afk>	 no patch yet
[20:23:54] <Lydia_WMDE>	 ok
[20:24:04] <Lydia_WMDE>	 then maybe create one so it doesn't get forgotten?
[20:24:10] <lazowik>	 yup
[20:24:19] <Lydia_WMDE>	 :)
[20:24:33] * lazowik  just started typing bugg… in the address bar

[20:24:36] * lazowik  oh wait

[20:24:45] <lazowik>	 (bugg)
[20:25:36] <Lydia_WMDE>	 :D
[20:26:52] <benestar>	 lazowik: I've submitted some patch sets
[20:27:07] <lazowik>	 benestar: yeah, seen some
[20:27:15] <benestar>	 however, still failing -.-
[20:27:29] <benestar>	 maybe I will get them through now
[20:27:38] <benestar>	 but not having too much hope :P
[20:27:45] <lazowik>	 benestar: now I'm doing something else than badges
[20:27:53] <lazowik>	 then if you want I can take over/help
[20:27:57] <benestar>	 k
[20:28:08] <benestar>	 lazowik: what are you working on atm?
[20:28:22] <benestar>	 will ask you if I need some help :)
[20:28:25] <lazowik>	 benestar: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64515
[20:28:50] <lazowik>	 to do that without hackish code I have to do something else first
[20:28:59] <lazowik>	 (getting EntityId from Title)
[20:29:10] <lazowik>	 and also I've thought about refactoring hooks
[20:29:15] <lazowik>	 into separate classes
[20:29:20] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw 04force-pushed 06plane-termtext from 14830a047 to 148509736: 02http://git.io/iJ3SFw
[20:29:20] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06plane-termtext 1401f5994 15jeroendedauw: Add TermList::addTermText
[20:29:20] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06plane-termtext 1418c8bbf 15jeroendedauw: Add AliasGroupList::setGroupTexts
[20:29:20] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06plane-termtext 148509736 15jeroendedauw: Rename as discussion on PR #86
[20:30:15] <benestar>	 lazowik: this is done at least partially on client afaik
[20:30:20] <benestar>	 at least my hook :)
[20:30:33] <lazowik>	 yep
[20:30:39] <lazowik>	 "partially" is the key word
[20:30:43] <benestar>	 ^^
[20:30:44] <lazowik>	 on Repo that is two hooks
[20:30:55] <lazowik>	 of ~1300 lines in Wikibase.hooks.php
[20:31:06] <benestar>	 is bugzilla down?
[20:31:10] <benestar>	 not loading for me...
[20:31:30] <lazowik>	 SOA #1
[20:32:04] <lazowik>	 oh wait
[20:32:14] <lazowik>	 thats Polish
[20:32:17] <lazowik>	 works for me
[20:32:52] <benestar>	 http://status.wikimedia.org/ gives me "Data request timeout" :O
[20:33:21] <lazowik>	 benestar: some ISP issues?
[20:33:51] <benestar>	 everything else loads fast
[20:34:04] <lazowik>	 traceroute ?
[20:34:05] <benestar>	 only wikimedia.org servers have a problem
[20:34:30] <Reedy>	 status.wikimedia.org isn't hosted by wikimedia
[20:34:39] <Reedy>	 It's not loading for me either
[20:34:52] <lazowik>	 lol
[20:34:55] <lazowik>	 for me it loads
[20:34:58] <lazowik>	 and is all green
[20:35:03] <lazowik>	 even history
[20:36:48] <lazowik>	 DanielK_WMDE: can this getting id from title be treated as enhancement?
[20:38:24] <benestar_>	 lazowik: perhaps you were right with ISP ;)
[20:38:31] <lazowik>	 :p
[20:54:15] <aude>	 lazowik: lydia doesn't like 'enhancements' in bugzilla
[20:54:32] * lazowik  changes quickly back to normal

[20:54:33] <aude>	 if you already put it, no worries
[20:54:34] <aude>	 :)
[20:54:44] <lazowik>	 no
[20:54:51] <lazowik>	 still writing
[20:54:58] <aude>	 k
[20:56:03] <lazowik>	 hmm
[20:56:39] <lazowik>	 if something is needed to resolve other bug without hackish code
[20:56:52] <lazowik>	 does that qualify for bug dependency?
[21:00:06] <Lydia_WMDE>	 yes
[21:00:26] <lazowik>	 Lydia_WMDE: could you just take a look at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65507
[21:00:33] <lazowik>	 if I've submitted it correctly :p
[21:00:55] <Lydia_WMDE>	 lazowik: that looks fine :)
[21:01:02] <lazowik>	 \o/
[21:01:28] <lazowik>	 benestar: from where are you connecting
[21:02:16] <benestar>	 lazowik: NetCologne
[21:02:28] <benestar>	 shouldn't be that bad but it is actually :(
[21:02:43] <hoo>	 aude: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Gadget-AuthorityControl.js&diff=prev&oldid=131376405 that's all that was needed, right?
[21:03:08] <lazowik>	 benestar: is also gerrit down for you?
[21:03:32] <benestar>	 it's ok now
[21:03:39] <aude>	 hoo: looking
[21:03:39] <lazowik>	 mhm
[21:03:52] <aude>	 i think so 
[21:03:58] <hoo>	 \o/
[21:04:09] <aude>	 the code could be improved per https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Aude/authority.js
[21:04:12] <aude>	 not required though
[21:05:11] <hoo>	 aude: Will briefly look at the diff
[21:05:17] <aude>	 sure
[21:05:58] <hoo>	 MediaWiki diffs are so helpful... not *sigh*
[21:06:44] <aude>	 sure it could be even better than i did
[21:07:21] <aude>	 if ! globecoordinate or string, then return early (e.g.)
[21:08:02] <aude>	 then getLinkValue
[21:08:06] <aude>	 then the rest
[21:08:11] <hoo>	 Would be so much easier if we had this in git
[21:08:18] <aude>	 +1 :)
[21:08:33] <aude>	 i'm going to poke again
[21:08:51] <hoo>	 Ok, applied your last diff
[21:09:18] <lazowik>	 hmm
[21:09:22] <lazowik>	 I've just noticed
[21:09:30] <lazowik>	 in EntityPerPage
[21:09:35] <lazowik>	 @todo: Combine with the EntityTitleLookup interface?
[21:09:39] <lazowik>	 @todo: At least add a way to get page IDs!
[21:10:18] <lazowik>	 DanielK_WMDE: ^ what with that?
[21:10:59] <aude>	 alright
[21:11:18] <aude>	 in linkSnakview, i'm adding check for snak value type
[21:17:03] <aude>	 ok, did the things suggested and seems to work fine
[21:17:19] <aude>	 same time, editing site js is scary so status quo is ok also (as long as not broken)
[21:18:15] <hoo>	 Yep :/
[21:22:12] <aude>	 Lydia_WMDE: is henning around tomorrow? or adrian?
[21:22:23] <Lydia_WMDE>	 aude: they should be
[21:22:36] <aude>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/134104/ is a bit important 
[21:22:49] <Lydia_WMDE>	 ok
[21:23:19] <aude>	 w/o the error bubble will not show details (i guess not horrible, if doesn't get in before deployment)
[21:23:41] <aude>	 then we'll see after lightning deploy, if the string editing issue still happens
[21:54:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Bene: Fix the exception caught in Special:SetSiteLink [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134260 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/63036) 
[21:59:53] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134260 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/63036) (owner: 10Bene)
[22:00:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Bene: Fix the exception caught in Special:SetSiteLink [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134260 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/63036) 
[22:05:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS7) 10Bene: Create api module 'wbavailablebadges' to query all available badge items [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/125886 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/63486) 
[22:06:47] <lazowik>	 bye bye
[22:07:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134260 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/63036) (owner: 10Bene)
[22:10:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/125886 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/63486) (owner: 10Bene)
[22:11:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS9) 10Bene: Insert classes for badges on client [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124605 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60717) 
[22:14:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS8) 10Bene: Create api module 'wbavailablebadges' to query all available badge items [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/125886 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/63486) 
[22:18:49] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124605 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60717) (owner: 10Bene)
[22:22:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/125886 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/63486) (owner: 10Bene)
[23:19:12] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 04-1] "fixes the uncaught exception, though appears that wikibase-setentity-invalid-id is not a message." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134260 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/63036) (owner: 10Bene)
[23:19:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 04-1] "Looks good to merge, despite" (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/125886 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/63486) (owner: 10Bene)