[00:36:02] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw 04force-pushed 06rem from 14ac0df3b to 14205b9cd: 02http://git.io/ahYWpg
[00:36:02] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06rem 14205b9cd 15jeroendedauw: [WIP] Legacy code removal...
[00:37:21] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseDataModel/rem/205b9cd : jeroendedauw The build has errored. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/builds/23316743
[01:18:39] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw created 06TermList (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/xunKIQ
[01:18:39] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06TermList 142cb7ebe 15jeroendedauw: TermList implements Comparable
[01:18:54] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw opened pull request #64: TermList implements Comparable (06master...06TermList) 02http://git.io/Xi9bhQ
[01:20:12] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseDataModel/TermList/2cb7ebe : jeroendedauw The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/builds/23318095
[01:27:22] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw created 06AliasGroupList (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/2cJJ5Q
[01:27:22] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06AliasGroupList 14fd336ab 15jeroendedauw: AliasGroupList implements Comparable
[01:28:57] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseDataModel/AliasGroupList/fd336ab : jeroendedauw The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/builds/23318281
[01:30:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Introduce IntegrationApiTest test class (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/127233 (owner: 10Addshore)
[01:40:34] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw created 06fp (+2 new commits): 02http://git.io/KFf2HQ
[01:40:34] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06fp 147cc5cdb 15jeroendedauw: Merge branch 'TermList' into fp
[01:40:34] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06fp 14fce949e 15jeroendedauw: Fingerprint implements Comparable
[01:41:24] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw opened pull request #66: Fingerprint implements Comparable (06master...06fp) 02http://git.io/yQdLMA
[01:42:05] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseDataModel/fp/fce949e : jeroendedauw The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/builds/23318726
[01:55:59] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw created 06Claim (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/CaHskw
[01:55:59] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06Claim 143829bd6 15jeroendedauw: Claim implements Comparable
[01:56:14] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw opened pull request #67: Claim implements Comparable (06master...06Claim) 02http://git.io/xz30BQ
[01:57:32] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseDataModel/Claim/3829bd6 : jeroendedauw The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/builds/23319072
[02:21:09] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw pushed 2 new commits to 06Claim: 02http://git.io/sCRbiA
[02:21:09] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06Claim 1475b93b7 15jeroendedauw: Claims should not equal Statements...
[02:21:09] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06Claim 14a1376b9 15jeroendedauw: Make Statement comparable
[02:42:02] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw pushed 2 new commits to 06Claim: 02http://git.io/sHdwHg
[02:42:02] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06Claim 14c0b301e 15jeroendedauw: Claims implements Comparable
[02:42:02] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06Claim 14d3941ff 15jeroendedauw: CHange comparison in Claims to hold the full value into account
[06:58:51] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw created 06SiteLink (+2 new commits): 02http://git.io/L__jfA
[06:58:51] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06SiteLink 14c507295 15jeroendedauw: SiteLink implements Comparable
[06:58:51] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06SiteLink 14e4ef1e9 15jeroendedauw: SiteLinkList implements Comparable
[06:59:11] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw opened pull request #68: Add Comparable interface to SiteLink and SiteLinkList (06master...06SiteLink) 02http://git.io/fHRPyg
[07:00:19] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseDataModel/SiteLink/e4ef1e9 : jeroendedauw The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/builds/23324777
[07:51:11] <any98014011>	 how will wikidata differ from yago ?
[08:28:43] <Pyb>	 anyone can edit Wikidata. Yago is an extraction from Wikipedia.
[08:33:36] <any98014011>	 thanks, Pyb , if Yago is all that can be extracted from Wikipedia, can Wikidata be more than Yago?
[08:38:50] <Pyb>	 any98014011: yes, items that are not in Wikipedia are allowed
[08:39:54] <any98014011>	 i was reading of 88% accuracy being acceptable(??) in adding wikipedia extractions to cyc, which means, if i drop the "gr" from "cows eat grass" , the result is acceptably above 80% error rate <cough>
[08:40:24] <any98014011>	 and that's just off the top of my head at 3:40am
[08:50:28] <Pyb>	 sorry, I have to go.
[10:00:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10WikidataBuilder: New Wikidata Build - 19/04/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/127428 
[10:14:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/127428 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder)
[10:16:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Abandoned) 10Addshore: New Wikidata Build - 19/04/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/127428 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder)
[13:36:14] <GerardM>	 Hoi John... how about this .. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Ladsgroup/Date_of_death_problems
[13:36:32] <GerardM>	 this only compares at the moment
[13:37:06] <GerardM>	 eh JohnLewis  ^^'
[13:38:16] <JohnLewis>	 GerardM: Hm?
[13:38:49] <GerardM>	 getting the first comparison reports with Wikipedia
[13:39:44] <GerardM>	 aimed at Wikipedia
[13:43:09] <JohnLewis>	 GerardM: Ah.
[20:07:44] <gifti>	 why are there links like http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:SetSiteLink?site=dewiki&id=Q2996037&page=SIGSEGV in the externallinks table of (in this case) wikipedia?
[20:37:22] <lazowik_>	 gifti: 
[20:37:24] <lazowik_>	 hm?
[20:37:37] <lazowik_>	 I don't understand :p
[20:38:48] <gifti>	 meh
[20:39:15] <lazowik_>	 you mean that this is a redirect?
[20:39:47] <gifti>	 according to the database/the mediawiki api there are external links in ~350 articles that are not anywhere in the wikitext
[20:39:59] <gifti>	 i wonder where they come from
[20:41:30] <lazowik_>	 by external links you mean interwiki links?
[20:41:36] <gifti>	 no
[20:42:06] <lazowik_>	 ah table
[20:42:12] <lazowik_>	 in dumps then?
[20:42:34] <lazowik_>	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Externallinks_table
[20:42:35] <lazowik_>	 here?
[20:42:55] <gifti>	 this one, yes
[20:43:48] <lazowik_>	 ok, I get it
[20:43:55] <lazowik_>	 http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:SetSiteLink?site=dewiki&id=Q2996037&page=SIGSEGV appears as an external link there
[20:44:14] <lazowik_>	 hmm
[20:45:15] <lazowik_>	 gifti: in which article?
[20:45:24] <lazowik_>	 Schutzverletzung on dewp?
[20:45:30] <gifti>	 yes
[20:46:21] <lazowik_>	 Lydia_WMDE: ^ any idea? or any idea who should have any idea? :p
[20:47:16] * lazowik_  does not really hope for a quick answer

[20:47:30] <gifti>	 oh, wait
[20:48:06] <gifti>	 https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/:SIGSEGV?action=edit
[20:48:14] <gifti>	 oh my
[20:49:24] <gifti>	 problem solved, i guess
[20:49:50] <gifti>	 positive side effect: i learned that externallinks has primary keys now, which is great
[20:50:11] <lazowik_>	 gifti: hmm, but why to SetSiteLink?
[20:50:24] <gifti>	 that's not my problem :p
[20:51:10] <lazowik_>	 ah
[20:51:10] <lazowik_>	 ok
[20:51:10] <lazowik_>	 gifti: https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=SIGSEGV&redirect=no
[20:53:34] <gifti>	 Template:Wikidata-Weiterleitung states that it would not be possible to add redirects to items, is that still true?
[20:56:31] <lazowik_>	 gifti: for last few months I'm mostly afking here and on-wiki :p
[20:56:37] <lazowik_>	 no idk
[20:56:39] <lazowik_>	 *so
[20:56:46] <gifti>	 :)
[20:57:37] <lazowik_>	 gifti: might want to ask in working week in earlier hours
[20:58:34] <gifti>	 well, i don't care much about wikidata … it's just bloatedly complicated
[20:59:15] <lazowik_>	 heh
[21:00:06] <lazowik_>	 gifti: you mean concept / ui / api / code ?
[21:02:18] <gifti>	 i really hate the ui
[21:11:58] <lazowik_>	 gifti: it will be redesigned
[21:12:01] <lazowik_>	 like all of it
[21:13:21] <lazowik_>	 gifti: you can throw your 5 cents here: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:UI_redesign_input
[21:24:10] <gifti>	 wee
[21:43:22] <Lydia_WMDE>	 lazowik_: sorry - back now
[21:43:26] <Lydia_WMDE>	 gifti: what lazowik_ said
[21:43:30] <Lydia_WMDE>	 we're working on it
[21:44:06] <lazowik_>	 Lydia_WMDE: well, originally gifti came with another problem
[21:44:17] <lazowik_>	 but he sorted it out himself :)
[21:44:23] <Lydia_WMDE>	 cool
[21:44:25] <lazowik_>	 (also: hi!)
[21:44:28] <Lydia_WMDE>	 hey :)
[22:29:03] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw pushed 1 new commit to 06SiteLink: 02http://git.io/qpB3uw
[22:29:03] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06SiteLink 148b598f1 15jeroendedauw: Add additional SiteLink tests
[22:40:44] <lazowik_>	 JohnLewis: "Any interested in another Wikidata office hour? (Say yes)" -> "Anyone interested in another Wikidata office hour? (Say yes)"
[22:40:47] <lazowik_>	 probably ;)
[22:40:58] <lazowik_>	 ("Any" -> "Anyone"
[22:41:09] <JohnLewis>	 lazowik_: Balme Lydia_WMDE for not seeing my mistake :p
[22:41:14] <lazowik_>	 :D
[22:41:19] * lazowik_  blames Lydia_WMDE

[22:41:25] <JohnLewis>	 I could also 'interested -> interest' :p
[22:41:51] <lazowik_>	 oh
[22:41:54] <Lydia_WMDE>	 :D
[22:42:02] * Lydia_WMDE  feels blamed

[22:42:21] <lazowik_>	 git blamed
[22:42:23] <lazowik_>	 :p
[22:43:42] <lazowik_>	 btw, I'm _very much greatly yes_ interested in another office hour
[22:43:53] <lazowik_>	 ^ see, I followed the advice
[22:44:36] <JohnLewis>	 Lydia_WMDE: So then 'no one is interested' eh Lydia?
[22:45:01] <Lydia_WMDE>	 :P
[22:45:23] <JohnLewis>	 Lydia_WMDE: That's two in attendance so organise it :D
[22:45:23] <lazowik_>	 you can always say that there is constant 24/7 office hour here
[22:45:28] <lazowik_>	 which is quite true
[22:45:48] <Lydia_WMDE>	 JohnLewis: lol. one more and i will
[22:46:01] <JohnLewis>	 lazowik_: According to hoo, this is just 'bully the developers' session :p
[22:46:22] <JohnLewis>	 dennyvrandecic: ping
[22:46:29] <lazowik_>	 :D
[22:59:07] <eikes>	 I am interested
[22:59:20] <JohnLewis>	 Lydia_WMDE: See! Now organise it :p
[22:59:48] <Lydia_WMDE>	 yeah yeah yeah
[22:59:49] <Lydia_WMDE>	 :P
[22:59:52] <Lydia_WMDE>	 evil JohnLewis
[22:59:59] <JohnLewis>	 :D
[23:00:11] <JeroenDeDauw>	 evil Lydia_WMDE 
[23:01:00] <JohnLewis>	 :D
[23:01:57] <JohnLewis>	 normal JeroenDeDauw
[23:03:38] <Vogone>	 JohnLewis: could you explain me what I am interested in now, please? :p
[23:03:52] <JohnLewis>	 Vogone: A Wikidata office hour :p
[23:03:57] <Vogone>	 ah, okay
[23:03:59] <JohnLewis>	 JeroenDeDauw is obviously interested, right? :D
[23:05:49] <JeroenDeDauw>	 JohnLewis: in cat pictures yes
[23:06:22] <JohnLewis>	 JeroenDeDauw: In a office hour :p
[23:06:26] <JohnLewis>	 What if we put;
[23:06:28] <JohnLewis>	 !nyan
[23:06:29] <wm-bot3>	 ~=[,,_,,]:3
[23:06:37] <JohnLewis>	 as the topic for the hour :D?
[23:07:55] <JohnLewis>	 Lydia_WMDE: There you go, you have to put the Nyan as the topic for the office hour when it occurs :p
[23:08:23] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Agreed, that goes without saying
[23:08:38] * legoktm  hugs Lydia_WMDE 

[23:09:00] <JohnLewis>	 JeroenDeDauw: Let's change the logo for Wikidata to a totally non copyrightable Wikidata Cat.
[23:11:29] <JohnLewis>	 I think she's gone now :/
[23:11:43] <Vogone>	 she's leaving home
[23:11:50] <JeroenDeDauw>	 JohnLewis: why just the logo? If we just serve such an image as our website, than we kill the pefroamnce problems in the same go as well
[23:11:57] <Vogone>	 after living alone for so many years
[23:12:01] * Vogone  hides

[23:12:17] <JohnLewis>	 Vogone: She told me she's watching TV then going to sleep :p
[23:13:03] <JohnLewis>	 JeroenDeDauw: Agree. Plus it won't have as much Javascript so we can serve the older browsers without flaw!
[23:13:25] <Vogone>	 hi Glaisher
[23:16:33] <JeroenDeDauw>	 JohnLewis: $profit!
[23:16:47] <JeroenDeDauw>	 JohnLewis: except that you did not link my awesome blog post in the weekly. Shame on you http://www.bn2vs.com/blog/2014/04/14/wikibase-datamodel-0-7-3-released/
[23:17:08] <JohnLewis>	 JeroenDeDauw: That'sdev stuff thus Lydia_WMDE's job :p
[23:17:55] <JeroenDeDauw>	 JohnLewis: blaming Lydia_WMDE for everything are we?
[23:18:15] <JohnLewis>	 Well, she's not here right now to defend herself so - yes if it is her fault :D
[23:18:43] <JeroenDeDauw>	 :)
[23:18:59] <JeroenDeDauw>	 I'm just gonna send an email to the dev list, forgot about that after writing the post
[23:19:17] <JohnLewis>	 JeroenDeDauw: Dev list? :p
[23:21:16] <JeroenDeDauw>	 JohnLewis: wikidata-tech@lists.wikimedia.org
[23:21:36] <JohnLewis>	 Oh, email wikidata-l and I'll make sure that email neevr appears >:D
[23:21:43] <JohnLewis>	 *never
[23:22:21] <JeroenDeDauw>	 JohnLewis: powerless JohnLewis 
[23:22:37] <JohnLewis>	 JeroenDeDauw: Proof? :p
[23:23:17] <JeroenDeDauw>	 JohnLewis: you are so powerless that you need my help to disprove you are powerless
[23:23:28] <JohnLewis>	 k
[23:36:47] <JohnLewis>	 Well night JeroenDeDauw, Vogone :p