[00:12:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: (bug 62824) generic localization for API errors. (034 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120775 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[00:24:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: (bug 40157) store entity status in page_props (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/99385 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[00:28:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Remove useless .DS_Store file [extensions/WikibaseMobile] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121245 (owner: 10IAlex)
[00:31:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [V: 032] Remove useless .DS_Store file [extensions/WikibaseMobile] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121245 (owner: 10IAlex)
[01:27:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "That's the problem right there. You should not present exception messages to users. Exceptions should not reach the top of the presentatio" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121123 (owner: 10Aude)
[01:29:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "The class already exists. The problem I am describing likely cannot (or rather should not) be addressed in this commit. Please consider th" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121123 (owner: 10Aude)
[02:16:13] <hoo>	 aude: Still around?
[03:45:32] <gh-datavalues>	 [13Validators] 15JeroenDeDauw pushed 4 new commits to 06master: 02http://git.io/Mm8jYw
[03:45:32] <gh-datavalues>	 13Validators/06master 146ec0680 15jeroendedauw: Use PSR-4 based loading
[03:45:32] <gh-datavalues>	 13Validators/06master 144d53759 15jeroendedauw: Add DimensionValidatorTest
[03:45:32] <gh-datavalues>	 13Validators/06master 140cf6ea7 15jeroendedauw: Fix typo
[03:49:06] <gh-datavalues>	 [13Validators] 15JeroenDeDauw tagged 060.1.1 at 06master: 02http://git.io/Jdb2SQ
[07:21:26] <blackerking>	 Hello
[07:21:59] <blackerking>	 I have a feature request. :-P
[07:23:12] <blackerking>	 Is it planned or possible to add "Naming conventions of the International Phonetic Alphabet" for informations?
[07:25:33] <GerardM->	 blackerking: what do you mean ?
[07:25:46] <GerardM->	 you are talking IPA ?
[07:26:14] <GerardM->	 that seems to be firmly in dictionary land
[07:26:34] <GerardM->	 lexical information is planned for in two years
[07:43:16] <blackerking>	 ahh okay
[07:44:17] <blackerking>	 It would be awesome if unknown or special words are pronouncable written.
[07:48:58] <gh-wmde>	 [13DataValuesJavascript] 15snaterlicious 04force-pushed 06rnfactories from 1438e0818 to 14cd93351: 02http://git.io/Ipb7IQ
[07:48:58] <gh-wmde>	 13DataValuesJavascript/06rnfactories 14cd93351 15snaterlicious: Renamed Value*Factory to Value*Store
[07:52:38] <gh-wmde>	 [13DataValuesJavascript] 15snaterlicious 04force-pushed 06rmmwext from 140f8abff to 14bff72d1: 02http://git.io/FQ0Paw
[07:52:38] <gh-wmde>	 13DataValuesJavascript/06rmmwext 143a7b727 15snaterlicious: Renamed Value*Factory to Value*Store
[07:52:38] <gh-wmde>	 13DataValuesJavascript/06rmmwext 14bff72d1 15snaterlicious: Removed mw.ext.value* files
[08:03:00] <GerardM->	 blackering there is the option of including soundfiles ....
[08:03:15] <GerardM->	 as to IPA, in the USA they cut corners and still call it IPA
[08:23:48] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: Simplify wb-snak template, pass template options in JS (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119457 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[08:37:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Daniel Kinzler: Make ClaimGuidGenerator behave like a service [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121316 
[08:38:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Adrian Lang: Merge commit '11692a6ac3c21986dd0782df5132c6028a2b6150'; commit 'ac796cf8e424dfe4a75eacc568570394ee10b683' into newReuseDom [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121037 
[08:38:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Adrian Lang: Remove scraping [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121039 
[08:38:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Adrian Lang: Reuse the existing DOM on entity page initialization [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121038 
[08:41:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Henning Snater: [C: 032] Fall back to "... in [en]" if language name isn't available [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119481 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[08:42:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fall back to "... in [en]" if language name isn't available [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119481 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[08:44:53] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121316 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[08:49:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121037 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[08:51:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Daniel Kinzler: Introduce ChangeOpFactory. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121317 
[08:56:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121039 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[09:00:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 04-1] Introduce ChangeOpFactory. (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121317 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[09:00:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121038 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[09:01:48] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 Adrian_WMDE: http://googletesting.blogspot.de/2008/08/by-miko-hevery-so-you-decided-to.html
[09:02:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121317 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[09:02:20] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 Adrian_WMDE: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Architecture_guidelines (not really a guideline, but rather a proposal with lots of discussion and no conclusion)
[09:03:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: Simplify wb-snak template, pass template options in JS (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119457 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[09:06:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS7) 10Adrian Lang: Simplify wb-snak template, pass template options in JS [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119457 
[09:11:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119457 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[09:12:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Daniel Kinzler: Introduce ChangeOpFactory. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121317 
[09:17:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121317 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[09:28:03] <Tobi_WMDE>	 Adrian_WMDE: https://github.com/wmde/ValueView/pull/35
[09:47:50] <Tobi_WMDE>	 Adrian_WMDE: DanielK_WMDE_ do we have a bug for showing "no value" and "unknown value" in the non JS view?
[09:49:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] Simplify wb-snak template, pass template options in JS [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119457 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[09:50:09] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 Tobi_WMDE: i don't know
[09:50:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Simplify wb-snak template, pass template options in JS [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119457 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[09:50:57] <Adrian_WMDE>	 Tobi_WMDE: Nope
[09:51:09] <Tobi_WMDE>	 I'll create one then
[09:51:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] Initialize rank selector on the right element [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/118695 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[09:52:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Initialize rank selector on the right element [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/118695 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[09:59:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Adrian Lang: Remove scraping [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121039 
[09:59:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Adrian Lang: Reuse the existing DOM on entity page initialization [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121038 
[10:00:24] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10WikidataBuilder: New Wikidata Build - 27/03/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121338 
[10:00:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Abandoned) 10Adrian Lang: Merge commit '11692a6ac3c21986dd0782df5132c6028a2b6150'; commit 'ac796cf8e424dfe4a75eacc568570394ee10b683' into newReuseDom [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121037 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[10:03:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] New Wikidata Build - 27/03/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121338 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder)
[10:05:35] <aude>	 looks like mystery failure :/
[10:05:56] * aude  wonders what wikidata jenkins says

[10:07:18] <Tobi_WMDE>	 aude: lets wait.. :)
[10:07:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121039 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[10:11:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121338 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder)
[10:11:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121038 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[10:13:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Springle: "These indexes have been applied to production DBs." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/99660 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[10:13:58] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 oh, nice!
[10:14:06] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 aude: can we merge them into master now? ---^
[10:14:20] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 oh, springle gave a +2
[10:14:24] <Tobi_WMDE>	 aude: jenkins was fine with the build
[10:14:51] <aude>	 DanielK_WMDE_: been merged for a while
[10:14:59] <aude>	 i am just checking status
[10:16:22] <aude>	 conversion to big int is not done yet https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/99637/
[10:16:41] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 aude: sorry, i was confused by the new gerrit ui. 
[10:16:50] <aude>	 ah
[10:17:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032 V: 032] New Wikidata Build - 27/03/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121338 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder)
[10:17:49] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15adrianlang 04force-pushed 06reuseDom from 14d56be80 to 1466f83b6: 02http://git.io/QuA0Cg
[10:17:49] <gh-wmde>	 13ValueView/06reuseDom 1466f83b6 15Adrian Lang: Reuse DOM
[10:19:18] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 032] New Wikidata Build - 27/03/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121338 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder)
[10:20:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] New Wikidata Build - 27/03/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121338 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder)
[10:28:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 04-1] Remove scraping [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121039 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[10:29:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: "This requires min version 0.4.2 of ValueView. So this should be specified in composer.json" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121039 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[10:31:53] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS6) 10Adrian Lang: Remove scraping [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121039 
[10:33:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 04-1] "Edit-Button for sitelinks is now shown twice: one JS button and one button to the Special:SetSitelink page." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121038 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[10:34:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121039 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[10:38:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): LanguageFallbackChain type hint and inline documentation cleanup [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121340 
[10:43:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121340 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[10:46:02] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15tobijat pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/dXy83g
[10:46:02] <gh-wmde>	 13ValueView/06master 1441f8faf 15Tobi Gritschacher: Merge pull request #35 from wmde/reuseDom...
[10:46:14] <Tobi_WMDE>	 Adrian_WMDE: https://github.com/wmde/ValueView/pull/35 is mered. feel free to make a tag
[10:46:29] <Adrian_WMDE>	 Don't you mere my stuff!
[10:48:22] <aharoni>	 Hallo Lydia_WMDE.
[10:49:05] <aharoni>	 do you have any more questions about https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59905 ?
[10:59:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Adrian Lang: Reuse the existing DOM on entity page initialization [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121038 
[11:02:48] <Tobi_WMDE>	 Adrian_WMDE: it's merged
[11:04:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121038 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[11:05:48] <gh-wmde>	 [13ValueView] 15adrianlang tagged 060.4.2 at 06master: 02http://git.io/NlQe6g
[11:08:56] <aharoni>	 DanielK_WMDE__: do you have any idea about https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59905 ?
[11:12:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121039 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[11:13:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] Reuse the existing DOM on entity page initialization [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121038 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[11:15:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] Reuse the existing DOM on entity page initialization [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121038 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[11:16:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Reuse the existing DOM on entity page initialization [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121038 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[11:21:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [WIP] Properly red-link deleted properties and items [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/117424 
[11:26:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/117424 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[11:30:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Daniel Kinzler: (bug 57693) supply id for claim group [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121361 
[11:32:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Lydia Pintscher: [C: 031 V: 031] (bug 57693) supply id for claim group [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121361 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[11:34:49] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Lydia Pintscher: [C: 04-1 V: 04-1] "It does not actually work with JS enabled." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121361 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[11:35:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121361 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[11:37:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121338 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder)
[11:38:24] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): WikibaseRepo: Cleanup use section, comments and line lengths [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121362 
[11:39:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Henning Snater: Handle specific parse errors returned by the API [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121087 
[11:39:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Henning Snater: Reject ApiBasedValueParser/Formatter promise with a single parameter [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121095 
[11:39:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Henning Snater: Reject ApiBasedValueParser/Formatter promise with a single parameter [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121095 
[11:45:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121362 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[11:49:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121087 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[11:52:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121095 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[11:54:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121095 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[11:58:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Adrian Lang: (bug 57693) supply id for claim group [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121361 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[12:00:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: "Rebasing did the trick. Might want to think about giving a prefix to the ids." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121361 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[12:03:53] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121361 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[12:43:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] Remove scraping [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121039 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[12:44:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS7) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Remove scraping [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121039 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[12:44:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] Remove scraping [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121039 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[12:45:32] <Tobi_WMDE>	 Adrian_WMDE: Lydia_WMDE yay! http://wdjenkins.wmflabs.org/ci/job/wikibase-build-browsertests-ui-performance/performance/respondingTimeGraph?width=900&height=550&performanceReportPosition=TEST-features-performance_test.xml
[12:45:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Remove scraping [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121039 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[12:49:48] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121039 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[12:53:52] <Tobi_WMDE>	 hoo: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/120570/ is now obsolete
[12:54:03] <Tobi_WMDE>	 we got the reuse-dom in
[12:54:10] <aude>	 \o/
[12:55:44] <aharoni>	 aude, Lydia_WMDE : do you have any idea about how could https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59905 be resolved nicely?
[12:57:12] <aude>	 maybe we could try it again on test.wikidata?
[12:57:41] <aude>	 i remember we had issues trying before, so then we need to find out what exactly, make bugs and work on them
[13:00:08] <aharoni>	 aude: were you saying that to me?
[13:00:13] <aude>	 yes
[13:00:26] <aharoni>	 let's see...
[13:02:29] <aharoni>	 aude: same problem.
[13:02:49] <aharoni>	 I tried to add a label in rwr and got the error: "Unrecognized value for parameter 'language': rwr"
[13:03:04] <aharoni>	 The question is: where do the valid values for this parameter come from?
[13:06:56] <addshore>	 :O
[13:08:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Addshore: Make travis test against php 5.6 and hhvm (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120515 (owner: 10Addshore)
[13:10:43] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 032] LanguageFallbackChain type hint and inline documentation cleanup (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121340 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[13:11:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: LanguageFallbackChain type hint and inline documentation cleanup [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121340 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[13:12:17] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Addshore: WikibaseRepo: Cleanup use section, comments and line lengths (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121362 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[13:16:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 031] Handle specific parse errors returned by the API [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121087 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[13:22:33] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDatabase] 15addshore pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/ocPOgA
[13:22:33] <gh-wmde>	 13WikibaseDatabase/06master 1474b5a85 15addshore: Merge pull request #29 from wmde/PDOFactory...
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[14:04:37] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 aharoni: Language::fetchLanguageNames()
[14:04:47] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 that's where we get the valid language codes from
[14:05:45] <aharoni>	 DanielK_WMDE__: Thanks. How hard would it be to enhance it to include more eligible languages?
[14:06:00] <aharoni>	 maybe an array constant?
[14:06:14] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 aharoni: the only constraint we have is that we need to be able to instantiate a Language object. 
[14:06:24] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 so, we only support languages that work as interfrace languages
[14:06:24] <aharoni>	 aha. ok.
[14:06:37] <aharoni>	 hmm. problem.
[14:07:00] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 aharoni: it might be sufficient to add it to wgExtraLanguages. but i'm not sure that makes it work as an interface language.
[14:08:16] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 aharoni: Language::fetchLanguageNames actually considers $wgExtraLanguageNames. I have no idea how that works with Language::factory.
[14:08:26] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 aharoni: maybe adding to code to $wgDummyLanguageCodes too would fix it.
[14:08:45] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 anyway, gotta run. next meeting coming up
[14:10:22] <aharoni>	 DanielK_WMDE__: np, thanks
[14:15:44] <guillom>	 Greetings
[14:17:31] <guillom>	 I'm working on updating and expanding https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_timeline and related pages, and I was wondering: Could all of this be recorded in a structured way on Wikidata? My impression is that it's out of scope, but I'd like confirmation from more experienced users.
[14:21:45] <GerardM->	 guillom, much of it could be included.. however, the blob of text is something that is not supported
[14:22:00] <GerardM->	 nice project by the way
[14:22:21] <GerardM->	 <grin> they are experimenting with such things in DBpedia
[14:22:32] <GerardM->	 event driven semantic data
[14:23:33] <guillom>	 GerardM-: OK, thanks. I'll continue to use wikitables for now, then.
[14:49:44] <hoo>	 aude: Ping
[14:49:47] <hoo>	 DanielK_WMDE__: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120552 :/
[14:49:51] <hoo>	 see last comments
[14:55:05] <aude>	 i see anomie's point
[14:55:55] <hoo>	 yep
[14:55:59] <aude>	 for creating entities, might be better to have "arbitrary" title there like "NewEntity"
[14:56:09] <aude>	 that would make more sense when seen in blacklist log
[14:56:24] <aude>	 "ApiNewEntity"
[14:56:29] <aude>	 something
[14:56:52] <hoo>	 But if we make that thing really throw an Exception, I guess that would cause further problems
[14:57:02] <aude>	 probably
[14:57:16] <aude>	 just document getTitle can return null
[14:57:38] <aude>	 my 2 cents :)
[14:58:14] <hoo>	 aude: Oh another thing
[14:58:32] <hoo>	 copyrightpage
[14:58:39] <aude>	 oh, yes
[14:58:39] <hoo>	 why is that localizable?
[14:58:59] <aude>	 no idea w/o looking
[14:59:16] <hoo>	 in 
[14:59:17] <hoo>	 copyrightpage
[14:59:30] <hoo>	 * CopyrightMessageBuilder
[14:59:43] * hoo  hates it then copy and paste doesn't work -.-

[14:59:49] <hoo>	 * when
[15:00:25] <aude>	 it needs to be configurable
[15:00:37] <aude>	 not necessarily translated though
[15:01:04] <hoo>	 mh
[15:01:16] <hoo>	 having it translatable is a huge problem
[15:01:20] <aude>	 if there is a better way...
[15:01:23] <hoo>	 I can bot create all languages
[15:01:34] <hoo>	 but that might take some time to script
[15:01:57] <hoo>	 and doesn't sound like a sane idea
[15:02:13] <aude>	 i see we have a message for it
[15:02:20] <aude>	 it can just be a setting
[15:02:29] <aude>	 like $rightsUrl
[15:02:44] <hoo>	 that would be better
[15:03:01] <hoo>	 even the message would be ok if we could overwrite it once and nto for all languages
[15:03:12] <hoo>	 people keep complaining to me on dewiki, so I want this solved
[15:03:14] <aude>	 yep
[15:03:19] <aude>	 do you want to make a patch?
[15:03:32] <hoo>	 I can... backport?!
[15:03:37] <aude>	 sure
[15:04:08] <hoo>	 Ok, will do later on
[15:04:14] <aude>	 great
[15:47:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Aude: Cucumber tests for Special:SetSiteLink [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121393 
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[16:54:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Aude: Cucumber tests for Special:SetSiteLink [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121393 
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[16:57:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Aude: Cucumber tests for Special:SetSiteLink [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121393 
[16:58:43] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [WIP] Add Cucumber test for Special:SetLabel [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121390 
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[17:05:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [WIP] Add Cucumber test for Special:SetLabel [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121390 
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[17:12:49] <addshore>	 Lydia_WMDE, I hope you enjoy my contribution to the weekly summary!
[17:13:31] <addshore>	 youtube also blocked in turkey :/
[17:13:57] <hoo>	 addshore: Did you add the cat(s) Lydia asked about? :P
[17:14:28] * aude  would be doing more youtube and twitter if i was there, obviously

[17:14:40] <Lydia_WMDE>	 addshore: i am kinda worried now :P
[17:14:44] <Lydia_WMDE>	 should i check?
[17:14:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121393 (owner: 10Aude)
[17:14:52] <addshore>	 Lydia_WMDE: yes ;p
[17:15:04] <addshore>	 hoo: yes :P A topical cat
[17:15:25] <hoo>	 :DD
[17:15:30] <Lydia_WMDE>	 lol
[17:15:53] <JohnLewis>	 addshore: no.
[17:15:54] <JohnLewis>	 :p
[17:16:09] <aude>	 is the cat creative commons?
[17:16:14] <addshore>	 no :<
[17:16:21] <aude>	 awww
[17:19:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121390 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
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[17:24:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): WikibaseRepo: Cleanup use section, comments and line lengths (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121362 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
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[17:40:20] <dennyvrandecic>	 hi addshore!
[17:40:26] <addshore>	 its a dennyvrandecic !
[17:40:34] <dennyvrandecic>	 :)
[17:41:01] <dennyvrandecic>	 I was looking for you, let me know when you have a few minutes to be bothered by my questions
[17:41:22] <addshore>	 in about 15 / 30 mins time? ;p
[17:41:37] <addshore>	 maybe a tad more actually :P
[17:41:48] <dennyvrandecic>	 in 80 /90 minutes :)
[17:41:51] <dennyvrandecic>	 that would work for me
[17:42:05] <dennyvrandecic>	 if you are still around that late
[17:42:10] <dennyvrandecic>	 otherwise another day
[17:45:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Cucumber tests for Special:SetSiteLink (038 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121393 (owner: 10Aude)
[17:49:07] <dennyvrandecic>	 is it just me or are the links to IMDB, VIAF, etc. currently broken on Wikidata?
[17:50:16] <hoo>	 dennyvrandecic: Looks like some people messed with the gadget
[17:50:22] <hoo>	 (no code review, ftw)
[17:50:30] <hoo>	 might work again after a cache clear
[17:50:32] <hoo>	 or maybe not
[17:51:07] <addshore>	 dennyvrandecic: thats fine :)
[17:51:39] <addshore>	 hoo: we should just make that gadget an extension xD
[17:51:51] <hoo>	 addshore: I suggested that a while back already
[17:52:02] <hoo>	 that could be pulled into the Wikdata ext.
[17:52:04] <dennyvrandecic>	 (or add it to Wikibase proper)
[17:52:13] <hoo>	 or that
[17:52:16] <dennyvrandecic>	 (as a function)
[17:52:20] <hoo>	 but we're pretty far away from taht
[17:52:21] <addshore>	 I think an extension by itself would be nice :)
[17:52:28] <addshore>	 lets do it? ;p
[17:52:34] <hoo>	 addshore: Bug?
[17:52:53] <JohnLewis>	 addshore: or! An identifiers datatype with a default link settable and the value is just added to the url :D
[17:53:49] <hoo>	 JohnLewis: nah :P We had some plans about taht some time back, but I'm not sure it even made it into a bug
[17:54:23] <JohnLewis>	 Lydia_WMDE ^ Make it into a bug :D
[17:54:32] <dennyvrandecic>	 i think string is a perfect datatype for that
[17:54:49] <hoo>	 yep, should work
[17:54:58] <JohnLewis>	 dennyvrandecic: Yes but let's add more over complex designation :D
[17:55:16] <JohnLewis>	 Let's also add a population data type for populations only >:D
[17:55:42] <dennyvrandecic>	 i would make a new property, "URL pattern", allow properties to have claims, and then use that property for creating URLs
[17:55:56] <hoo>	 dennyvrandecic: yup
[17:56:10] <dennyvrandecic>	 and I definitively see why this is a bit away :)
[18:04:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS6) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [WIP] Add Cucumber test for Special:SetLabel [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121390 
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[18:49:55] <hoo>	 aude: therE?
[18:54:24] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Use the copyrightpage message in content language [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121430 
[18:54:47] <hoo>	 addshore: JeroenDeDauw: Thiemo_WMDE: Tobi_WMDE: --^ review
[18:54:53] <hoo>	 want to ahve that deployed later on
[18:56:36] <hoo>	 Lydia_WMDE: ^ also fyi
[18:59:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121430 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[19:00:41] <hoo>	 Lydia_WMDE: Around?
[19:02:26] <hoo>	 not good...
[19:08:38] <dennyvrandecic>	 addshore: good time?
[19:08:54] <addshore>	 perfect timing in fact!
[19:09:13] <dennyvrandecic>	 :) I have two questions
[19:09:26] <dennyvrandecic>	 1) would you know the status of this thingy? does it still run?
[19:09:27] <dennyvrandecic>	 http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-analysis/
[19:09:34] <dennyvrandecic>	 because most of the links seem unfortunately broken
[19:10:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Support null as last parameter for the SpecialWatchlistQuery hook [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121432 
[19:10:07] <addshore>	 I havnt checked the status of the cron since the Datacentre migration :/
[19:10:13] <hoo>	 addshore: I need you now :P
[19:10:22] <addshore>	 but even before that it was still breaking half way through  :/
[19:10:25] <dennyvrandecic>	 ok, so i assume it doesnt run
[19:10:26] <hoo>	 Sorry to interupt, dennyvrandecic but stuffs kind of on fire
[19:10:30] <dennyvrandecic>	 sure, np
[19:10:42] <hoo>	 addshore: See the change
[19:10:56] <addshore>	 hoo: which change?
[19:11:02] <hoo>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121432
[19:11:58] <addshore>	 hoo: did we just deploy or something?
[19:11:59] <addshore>	 :P
[19:12:14] <hoo>	 addshore: No, WMF did and stuffs broken for the Wikipedias
[19:12:18] <addshore>	 >.>
[19:12:56] <addshore>	 will wait for jenkins
[19:13:15] <addshore>	 hoo: is https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/SpecialWatchlistQuery out of date?
[19:13:32] <hoo>	 yep
[19:13:44] <hoo>	 also it doesnt' cover mobile calling the same hook with weird data
[19:14:01] <addshore>	 hahah
[19:14:21] <addshore>	 guessing this is being backported also? :P
[19:14:48] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121432 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[19:14:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 032] Support null as last parameter for the SpecialWatchlistQuery hook [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121432 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[19:15:56] <hoo>	 yep
[19:16:00] <Lydia_WMDE>	 hoo: meep
[19:16:02] <Lydia_WMDE>	 around now
[19:16:06] <Lydia_WMDE>	 sorry
[19:16:08] <addshore>	 dennyvrandecic: continue :)
[19:16:24] <hoo>	 not yet
[19:16:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Hoo man: Use the copyrightpage message in content language [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121430 
[19:16:46] <hoo>	 addshore: ^
[19:17:00] <Lydia_WMDE>	 anything i can help with?
[19:17:02] <hoo>	 (wait for jenkins first)
[19:17:16] <hoo>	 Lydia_WMDE: not really anymore
[19:17:21] <Lydia_WMDE>	 alright
[19:17:25] <hoo>	 well
[19:17:41] <hoo>	 could you open a bug about WD changes on mobiles weird wathclist things?
[19:17:49] <hoo>	 We need to investigate that further (with mobile)
[19:18:12] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Support null as last parameter for the SpecialWatchlistQuery hook [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.23-wmf19) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121434 
[19:18:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] "per master" [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.23-wmf19) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121434 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[19:18:49] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 032 V: 032] Support null as last parameter for the SpecialWatchlistQuery hook [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.23-wmf19) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121434 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[19:20:06] <Lydia_WMDE>	 ok
[19:20:15] <hoo>	 addshore: Are you good enough with the other change? (once it passes jenkins)
[19:20:29] <hoo>	 If not we can delay that one, although I would like it rather now than next week
[19:20:49] <addshore>	 the copyright content lang stuff? Might be nicer to have someone else look at that :)
[19:21:00] <hoo>	 who's around? :P
[19:21:29] <addshore>	 aude: ? :d
[19:21:32] <hoo>	 nah
[19:21:33] <addshore>	 Lydia_WMDE: can +2 ;p
[19:21:35] <hoo>	 sadly
[19:21:51] <Lydia_WMDE>	 hoo: done and ccd you
[19:22:01] <hoo>	 thanks, Lydia_WMDE 
[19:22:15] <Lydia_WMDE>	 sure
[19:22:56] <hoo>	 addshore: What if we do it against branch for now and master later on?
[19:23:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121430 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[19:23:34] <addshore>	 hoo: sounds okay :)
[19:23:38] <hoo>	 I talked to aude about it earlier but she's sadly not around to review
[19:23:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Use the copyrightpage message in content language [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.23-wmf19) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121437 
[19:23:55] <hoo>	 there you go
[19:24:03] <addshore>	 Im happy to +2 it, but be aware im currently sat in a restaurant eating pasta and thus cant chekout and actually check the change ;p 
[19:24:14] <hoo>	 oO
[19:24:26] <hoo>	 Well it passes the test, thus doesn't explode to bad :P
[19:24:59] <addshore>	 will wait for jenkins to run on the branch, just in case ;p
[19:25:06] <hoo>	 Lydia_WMDE: We need an afternoon/ night shift to help aude an me with CR while deploying :D
[19:25:12] <hoo>	 sure
[19:25:21] <Lydia_WMDE>	 hehe
[19:25:28] <Lydia_WMDE>	 maybe Thiemo_WMDE is still around?
[19:25:38] <hoo>	 he helped yesterday
[19:25:45] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 to do what? :)
[19:26:00] <addshore>	 Thiemo_WMDE: is here :D *goes back to eating * :>
[19:26:01] <hoo>	 Thiemo_WMDE: Hey there... want to code review deploy stuff?
[19:26:26] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 is it really that important?
[19:26:26] <hoo>	 not that oyu have a choice :P https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/121437/1
[19:26:39] <hoo>	 I guess we can delay it on Monday
[19:26:42] <hoo>	 * to
[19:26:55] <hoo>	 I'll get some more people complaining to me then, but meh
[19:27:10] <addshore>	 hoo: how broken is broken? :>
[19:27:13] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 it's thursday here, i can do it tomorrow. ;)
[19:27:21] <addshore>	 guess this one isnt broken, just annoying :P
[19:27:24] <hoo>	 addshore: Well we don't link them to a proper terms of use
[19:27:34] <hoo>	 and some people are like...
[19:27:47] <hoo>	 I doubt that has a legal impact or anything
[19:27:53] <addshore>	 >.> how does this keep breaking :P
[19:28:18] <hoo>	 maybe aude returns later on
[19:28:29] <hoo>	 Lydia_WMDE: Do you know anything about that? :P
[19:28:35] <addshore>	 if you say her name lots she will :P
[19:28:43] <addshore>	 aude aude aude aude aude aude aude aude aude 
[19:28:43] <Lydia_WMDE>	 no idea tbh
[19:28:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.23-wmf19) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121434 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[19:28:55] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 review done. love the solution. will merge it after a quick test.
[19:29:07] <hoo>	 ah
[19:29:12] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 totally makes sense.
[19:29:14] <addshore>	 :)
[19:29:19] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 ... to me. ;)
[19:29:30] <hoo>	 \p/
[19:29:32] <hoo>	 * \o/
[19:30:08] <hoo>	 Lydia_WMDE: Most I did in the past days was firefighting watchlist stuff :P
[19:30:15] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 i remember this discussion. was one of the first i had in february.
[19:30:25] <Lydia_WMDE>	 hoo: bah - sorry about that
[19:30:37] <hoo>	 That's why all my other stuff is so slow atm...
[19:30:44] * Lydia_WMDE  goes and lookes at the watchlist angrily

[19:30:44] <JohnLewis>	 hoo: You have a bigger problem if the watchlist was on fire...
[19:30:45] <Lydia_WMDE>	 :D
[19:31:06] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 "propper" solutions: a) create 200 redirects. b) translate the message to 200 languages.
[19:31:08] <hoo>	 JohnLewis: Well it used to be on commons and now it's on mobile :P But despite of that it's fine
[19:31:19] <hoo>	 Thiemo_WMDE: Go to Wikidata and do that :P
[19:31:26] <hoo>	 No really, that's stupid
[19:31:40] <addshore>	 dennyvrandecic: still around ? :P
[19:33:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.23-wmf19) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121437 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[19:36:39] <hoo>	 Lydia_WMDE: Updated the weekly summary (and added a kitten... but that one is at least PD :P)
[19:36:56] <Lydia_WMDE>	 :D
[19:37:16] <hoo>	 Thiemo_WMDE: Still on the change?
[19:37:50] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 I'm in a community meeting right now, will do it in like half an hur.
[19:37:58] <hoo>	 ok
[19:38:06] <hoo>	 fine with me
[19:38:17] <hoo>	 althought that will make this two deploys tonight, probably
[19:41:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Update Wikibase to fix a problem with SpecialMobileWatchlist [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.23-wmf19) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121441 
[19:42:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 032 V: 032] Update Wikibase to fix a problem with SpecialMobileWatchlist [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.23-wmf19) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121441 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[19:42:45] <addshore>	 i have absolutly no desire to watch the tests run on that for a third time :P
[19:44:24] <dennyvrandecic>	 addshore: back
[19:44:37] <addshore>	 :)
[19:45:59] <addshore>	 so, second question? :P
[19:46:16] <dennyvrandecic>	 2nd question, are there any bots still running to move interwiki links from the wikipedias or is this done?
[19:47:29] <addshore>	 i dont think there are many currently running on that task any more
[19:47:53] <addshore>	 I was going to try and do one more big sweep across everything in a month or so
[19:48:09] <dennyvrandecic>	 is this because the task is done, or just like this? :) i mean, do we know how many are still missing? are your pages still up?
[19:48:36] <addshore>	 nope, the pages are currently dead, need to rebuild the database :P
[19:49:04] <dennyvrandecic>	 ok, that answers both questions :)
[19:49:20] <dennyvrandecic>	 thx
[19:49:20] <addshore>	 need to do a nice big scan of all of the dumps looking for the interwikis again and then target and destory them :D
[19:49:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.23-wmf19) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121441 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[19:49:37] <dennyvrandecic>	 sounds like a fair plan for a proper gentleman
[19:49:45] <addshore>	 dennyvrandecic: any chance of a new up to data / bigger version of the freebase to wikidata mappings? ;p
[19:50:08] <dennyvrandecic>	 I could probably make one
[19:50:26] <dennyvrandecic>	 you think that is wanted or needed?
[19:51:08] <dennyvrandecic>	 markdown has a weird syntax for links
[19:52:02] <addshore>	 dennyvrandecic: its no weirder than wikitext ;p
[19:52:29] <dennyvrandecic>	 actually I find wikitext in this one respect more logical than markdown
[19:52:57] <dennyvrandecic>	 [alt](link) looks like two thingies, whereas [link alt] looks like one
[19:52:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Bene: "A review would be appreciated." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/111609 (owner: 10Bene)
[19:59:45] <addshore>	 dennyvrandecic: goo point :) On the whole markdown is cleaner (in my opinion :P)
[20:02:08] <dennyvrandecic>	 addshore: not arguing with that. Although, if you speak about cleaner, my fav is still HTML ;)
[20:04:28] * aude  waves

[20:04:30] <hoo>	 Lydia_WMDE: Deploy done
[20:04:34] <hoo>	 ohai aude 
[20:04:37] <aude>	 wtf is the issue?
[20:04:38] <Lydia_WMDE>	 \o/
[20:04:44] <hoo>	 aude: Mobile watchlist
[20:04:52] <hoo>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63087#c10
[20:04:55] <aude>	 they had issues before
[20:05:11] <hoo>	 stuff went crazy when Wikipedia were moved to wmf19
[20:05:51] <hoo>	 * Wikipedias
[20:07:02] <aude>	 :/
[20:07:26] <hoo>	 aude: That came unexpected... I don't even have MobileFrontend installed right now
[20:07:57] <hoo>	 we probably need more browser tests
[20:08:00] <aude>	 gah, need to install all the extensions!
[20:08:04] <hoo>	 or need to work together with mobile
[20:08:12] <hoo>	 yeah :/
[20:08:23] * aude  has all, but not all are enabled

[20:08:35] <hoo>	 that's still not enough
[20:08:44] <hoo>	 you would ahve to have visited the page then
[20:09:04] <aude>	 unlikely
[20:09:11] <hoo>	 yes :(
[20:09:14] <aude>	 unless there are selenium tests to do that
[20:09:31] <hoo>	 mobile probably has some, but they don't have a Wikibase installation, I guess
[20:09:40] <aude>	 beta
[20:09:45] <hoo>	 anyway... https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121437
[20:09:54] <aude>	 ok
[20:09:55] <hoo>	 I would like to get this into the next SWAT window
[20:12:56] <hoo>	 Lydia_WMDE: We should really keep this in mind... we had two watchlist catastrophes this week
[20:14:52] <Lydia_WMDE>	 hoo: ack
[20:22:23] <hoo>	 aude: So, do you think that change is good enough for tonights SWAT?
[20:22:28] <hoo>	 at 23:00 UTC
[20:25:21] <aude>	 need to manually verify
[20:26:18] <hoo>	 Sure
[20:38:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121510 (owner: 10L10n-bot)
[20:43:32] <aude>	 hoo: so we override the message on the wiki?
[20:44:32] <hoo>	 aude: Yep, but only once
[20:44:37] <hoo>	 not for alle langs.
[20:48:41] <aude>	 alright, seems ok
[20:48:57] <hoo>	 \o/
[20:49:03] <hoo>	 merge on master and branch?
[20:50:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Use the copyrightpage message in content language [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.23-wmf19) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121437 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[20:50:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Use the copyrightpage message in content language [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.23-wmf19) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121437 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[20:54:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Use the copyrightpage message in content language [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121430 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[20:55:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Use the copyrightpage message in content language [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121430 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[20:55:15] <aude>	 so, we need to update wmf19 and wmf20 core
[20:55:18] <hoo|away>	 Yep
[20:55:23] <hoo|away>	 did that before today
[20:55:29] <aude>	 ok
[20:55:30] <hoo|away>	 going to eat something now and be back later
[20:55:36] <aude>	 ok
[20:55:46] <hoo|away>	 can do everything in time, but I'm also fine if you do
[20:56:31] <aude>	 i can make new build
[20:58:14] <aude>	 hmmm, pulling in unrelated validator stuff :(
[21:06:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Aude: Require data-values/validators 0.1 specific version in branch [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.23-wmf19) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121527 
[21:12:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.23-wmf19) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121527 (owner: 10Aude)
[21:16:03] <phonebox>	 How do I enter a former city? Is 'deprecated rank' used for this?
[21:24:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Require data-values/validators 0.1 specific version in branch [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.23-wmf19) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121527 (owner: 10Aude)
[21:24:25] <hoo>	 aude: Just do composer update Wikibase/Wikibase
[21:24:27] <hoo>	 -o
[21:24:31] <hoo>	 that's what I did earlier
[21:24:55] <aude>	 also works
[21:25:37] <hoo>	 aude: We should make sure that at least one of us is around during normal MW deploys
[21:25:45] <hoo>	 or at least someone can reach us via phone or so
[21:25:51] <aude>	 yep
[21:26:21] <aude>	 rarely we have problems after being on the sister projects
[21:27:00] <hoo>	 well, we can (and already had) problems at any stage of the deployment
[21:27:21] <hoo>	 although initial deploy and deploy to Wikipedia is probably the most critical
[21:27:39] <aude>	 true
[21:28:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Require data-values/validators 0.1 specific version in branch [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.23-wmf19) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121527 (owner: 10Aude)
[21:28:32] * hoo  wonders whether Lydia_WMDE has his mobile number to reach him

[21:48:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Aude: New build, patch for handling copyright message [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.23-wmf19) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121536 
[21:51:01] <hoo>	 aude: Update your composer
[21:51:06] <hoo>	 +36, -51
[21:51:21] <aude>	 gah
[21:51:27] <hoo>	 you're removing lines because you use an older version than I do
[21:52:03] <aude>	 the one the builder uses
[21:53:00] <hoo>	 mh
[21:53:57] <gh-wmde>	 [13WikidataBuilder] 15filbertkm created 06composer (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/Hwc5IA
[21:53:57] <gh-wmde>	 13WikidataBuilder/06composer 14f378c18 15aude: Update composer.phar...
[21:54:20] <aude>	 we really don't need the builder for this
[21:55:01] <hoo>	 I think so, yes
[21:56:18] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.23-wmf19) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121536 (owner: 10Aude)
[21:57:30] <hoo>	 Will you redo the Wikidata change?
[21:57:36] <hoo>	 I mean with new composer
[21:57:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Aude: New build, patch for handling copyright message [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.23-wmf19) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121536 
[21:57:53] <hoo>	 I guess that's a yes
[21:58:00] <aude>	 doesn't seem right
[21:58:20] <hoo>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/121536/2/vendor/composer/installed.json what
[21:58:51] <hoo>	 mh, seems like it changed the sorting order in there
[21:59:05] <aude>	 and validators is from dist
[21:59:20] <aude>	 should be ok
[21:59:42] <hoo>	 if it passes Jenkins, yep
[21:59:57] <hoo>	 Composer can produce weird diff at times
[22:00:01] <hoo>	 * diffs
[22:00:18] <aude>	 wikibase git hash looks right
[22:00:22] <hoo>	 maybe we should embed a .phar so that everyone has the exact same?
[22:00:30] <hoo>	 not sure
[22:00:49] <aude>	 if we use the builder....
[22:01:01] <aude>	 not nice how composer.phar is managed though
[22:01:53] <hoo>	 I haven't tried the builder locally
[22:02:00] <hoo>	 it has deps. on npm and node and whatnot
[22:02:16] <hoo>	 seems over the top to me
[22:04:38] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wmde/WikidataBuilder/composer/f378c18 : aude The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikidataBuilder/builds/21716311
[22:05:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.23-wmf19) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121536 (owner: 10Aude)
[22:05:12] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] ":)" [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.23-wmf19) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121536 (owner: 10Aude)
[22:05:53] <aude>	 you want to update submodules
[22:05:54] <aude>	 ?
[22:06:02] <hoo>	 I can do, yes
[22:06:09] <aude>	 ok
[22:08:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: New build, patch for handling copyright message [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.23-wmf19) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121536 (owner: 10Aude)
[22:13:19] <hoo>	 aude: All done :) Now waiting for the window
[22:13:45] <aude>	 looks good
[22:29:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Introduce ChangeOpFactory. (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121317 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[22:35:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Make ClaimGuidGenerator behave like a service (033 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121316 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[22:42:18] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "Generally looks good, though the interface probably ought to be ditched" (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121317 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[23:51:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): LanguageFallbackChain type hint and inline documentation cleanup (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121340 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))