[00:31:51] I'm getting an annoying error and I don't know what's wrong [00:31:53] 2014/03/16 20:30:48 [error] 14105#0: *104335 FastCGI sent in stderr: "PHP message: PHP Notice: Use of undefined constant CONTENT_MODEL_WIKIBASE_QUERY - assumed 'CONTENT_MODEL_WIKIBASE_QUERY' in /var/www/core/LocalSettings_data.php on line 30 [00:31:53] PHP message: PHP Fatal error: Class 'Wikibase\TemplateRegistry' not found in /var/www/core/extensions/Wikibase/lib/WikibaseLib.php on line 121" while reading response header from upstream, client: 173.72.194.6, server: *.brickimedia.org, request: "GET /wiki/ HTTP/1.1", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/tmp/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "data.brickimedia.org" [00:32:04] from nginx error log [00:34:57] Okay I fixed the first error, but the second one with the Class Wikibase\TemplateRegistry is still an issue [00:35:07] that's the one I don't understand [01:20:54] does anyone know how to fix that .-. [02:16:00] [13WikibaseInternalSerialization] 15JeroenDeDauw created 06integration (+4 new commits): 02http://git.io/TMmCfQ [02:16:00] 13WikibaseInternalSerialization/06integration 142f3870a 15jeroendedauw: Add DeserializerFactory [02:16:00] 13WikibaseInternalSerialization/06integration 14a4a6c8a 15jeroendedauw: Introduce TestDeserializerFactory to eliminate construction duplication in integration tests [02:16:00] 13WikibaseInternalSerialization/06integration 14831b63f 15jeroendedauw: Added ItemRoundtripTest [02:16:10] [13WikibaseInternalSerialization] 15JeroenDeDauw opened pull request #15: Add integration tests (06master...06integration) 02http://git.io/7va0Dw [02:17:09] [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseInternalSerialization/integration/7082797 : jeroendedauw The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseInternalSerialization/builds/20909819 [06:22:14] HI everyone For my GSoC project, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikidata_annotation_tool, I need to make many queries to wikidata api, would I need a bot account or something else since in api definitions it says that if I am going to make too many queries I should probably contact admins. [08:36:37] Hello, Kindly someone explain me wbsetreference method for the api with an example, I can't see where a reference is passed for the claim. [09:17:58] (03PS8) 10Daniel Kinzler: Check namespace before initializing on client. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/113941 [09:19:41] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/113941 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [09:23:38] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/113941 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [09:25:55] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-1] Refactor confusing getting of IDs from Term objects (033 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114466 (owner: 10Addshore) [09:26:33] [13scrumbugz] 15ChristopherHJohnson pushed 2 new commits to 06master: 02http://git.io/ERX_OQ [09:26:33] 13scrumbugz/06master 148fab2ca 15root: new task assign_numpriority [09:26:33] 13scrumbugz/06master 148c805da 15root: Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/wmde/scrumbugz [09:49:06] [13ValueView] 15adrianlang 04force-pushed 06removeBifidExpert from 14de526a1 to 14de1ffa7: 02http://git.io/oAQ7hg [09:49:06] 13ValueView/06removeBifidExpert 14de1ffa7 15Adrian Lang: Remove BifidExpert, make ValueView handle static mode... [09:52:17] (03PS3) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Update EntityId expert(s) to reflect changes in ValueView [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/118705 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [09:53:12] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/118705 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [09:54:04] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/118705 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [10:00:19] (03PS1) 10WikidataBuilder: New Wikidata Build - 17/03/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119018 [10:08:49] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119018 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder) [10:26:28] (03PS4) 10Adrian Lang: Update EntityId expert(s) to reflect changes in ValueView [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/118705 [10:28:04] (03PS1) 10Adrian Lang: Only use scraped values for HTML formatting [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119021 [10:28:09] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/118705 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [10:29:19] (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 032] New Wikidata Build - 17/03/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119018 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder) [10:29:48] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119021 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [10:33:40] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/118705 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [10:34:15] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 04-1] "-1 to get your attention. No big deal. ;-) I think I will merge the next patch set." (033 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/113941 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [10:38:13] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119021 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [10:38:46] * addshore waves [10:38:59] addshore: \o/ [10:40:49] hey addshore [10:41:09] DanielK_WMDE_: addshore joining in for the daily? [10:41:26] * addshore is :D [10:42:10] * aude expects funny hat [10:49:35] yeh, looks like google hangout is playying silly buggers :/ [10:50:01] I'll send a mail ;p [11:11:37] Tobi_WMDE: sorry, missed it. not much to tell. working on Bug 62491 - "Repo API modules should not depend on EntityContent" [11:11:42] doing reviews and follow-ups. [11:12:08] there is 4 relatively easy (i didn't say small) patches up for review. would be nice to have them in. [11:17:09] :P [11:42:46] addshore: what exactly is left for the new jenkins instance? [11:43:08] did we decide to not puppetize further and make the remaining changes manually? [11:43:10] just that phpunit issue i guess, and adding the browser tests to the job builder [11:43:20] addshore: ok [11:43:21] well, most of it is puppetized :P [11:43:37] can you make a new instance then? the final one? or tell me where/how to do so.. [11:43:54] then I can take care of installing phpunit properly [11:47:38] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Browsertests for new build on beta were successful" [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119018 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder) [11:48:10] Tobi_WMDE: will do [11:49:08] we need to install phpunit 3.7 via pear [11:49:17] aude: yes, think so [11:49:51] * aude was poking at making it work with phpunit 4.0 / phar but doesn't work quite right with mediawiki yet [11:49:51] it = mediawiki [11:49:53] aude, how can we install it via puppet? ; [11:49:54] ;p [11:50:04] or owuld this just be something we do outside of puppet now ;p [11:51:26] when i pear install, it gets 4.0 [11:51:30] * aude needs the old one [11:55:13] pear install pear.phpunit.de/PHPUnit-3.7.32 [11:55:14] :/ [11:56:01] i'll poke at phpunit 4.0 / phar some more but mainly in the evenings or when not busy [11:59:49] its jsut because of the silly mediawiki test running [11:59:51] runner [12:00:05] maybe we should just use our own one like we do for other componenets? :P [12:00:25] that doesn't solve bug PHPUnit_TextUI_TestRunner [12:00:32] err 58881 [12:01:08] phpunit.phar does "PHPUnit_TextUI_Command::main()" and mediawiki's phpunit.php does "MediaWikiPHPUnitCommand::main()" [12:01:21] hmmm *looks at bug* [12:01:44] how to have phpunit.phar use MediaWikiPHPUnitCommand? or other way to achieve the extra things we do (e.g. for parser tests) [12:01:46] why does thataffect anything? :P [12:01:58] we can't use phar [12:02:33] but if we just use something like https://github.com/wmde/WikibaseDatabase/blob/master/tests/evilMediaWikiBootstrap.php [12:02:40] then everything woudl work, no? [12:03:00] no evil! [12:03:44] its less evil than the MW test runner though :P [12:03:57] thats like evil time 3 :P [12:06:06] Tobi_WMDE: there should actually be no problem with just using the instance that is already there instead of creating a new one :) [12:06:27] using a bootstrap is what we need though might need more to handle parser tests etc [12:06:53] * addshore doesnt even understand the parser tests yet :P [12:10:15] anyway, i am back on 3.7 for now and can poke later [12:28:18] mhhhm, Tobi_WMDE aude Lydia_WMDE in time parser if you entered 2nd July 11 what dat would you expect it to be [12:28:19] ? [12:41:42] addshore: that's tricky. in *our* context, I would expect it to be the yeaqr 11, not the year 2011. But if I entered that date in some other, less encyclopedic, context, I'd expect it to be 2011. [12:42:02] indeed :/ [12:42:31] guess we should just make 11 always be parsed as 0011 and never 2011 then [12:42:44] addshore: we discussed this a little at the office last wee... i could imagine a heuristic which would use 2011 if day and month is given, because it'S unlikely that we have day and month of an event in the year 11. [12:43:05] But then, we do for Caesar's death. And it would be overly "magic", I thihnk. [12:43:09] hmm, okay [12:43:28] what about if you were passes 1st june 1 ? [12:43:35] :P [12:43:38] yes, take the year as it is, don't guess the century. [12:44:09] addshore: that's the 1st of June in the year 1, what else? [12:44:32] but how do we handle 1st June 0? [12:44:49] who knows :P jst seems a bit odd if you enter a 1 digit year to get the year you enter, for 2 digits it would magically change and then 3 its what you enter again :P [12:45:05] no, it should never change [12:45:12] take the year exactly as entered by the user [12:45:19] ...and fail if it's 0. [12:45:46] addshore: Adrian was woprking on this, have you talked to him? [12:51:00] (03PS1) 10Addshore: Support 1 2 and 3 digit years in DateTimeParser [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119038 [12:51:00] DanielK_WMDE_: not recently no [12:52:38] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119038 (owner: 10Addshore) [12:57:04] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119038 (owner: 10Addshore) [13:02:23] [13ValueView] 15adrianlang 04force-pushed 06removeBifidExpert from 14de1ffa7 to 140769f1a: 02http://git.io/oAQ7hg [13:02:23] 13ValueView/06removeBifidExpert 140769f1a 15Adrian Lang: Remove BifidExpert, make ValueView handle static mode... [13:04:24] (03PS2) 10Addshore: Support 1 2 and 3 digit years in DateTimeParser [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119038 [13:09:23] (03PS1) 10Addshore: Support 5+ digit years in DateTimeParser [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119040 [13:10:40] hehe [13:11:04] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119040 (owner: 10Addshore) [13:11:13] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119038 (owner: 10Addshore) [13:12:19] DanielK_WMDE_: what would you call an object that decides if a date being parsed is + or -? :P [13:15:56] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119040 (owner: 10Addshore) [13:17:53] PeriodParser? :/ [13:17:57] EraParser xD [13:24:28] (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: [C: 04-1] Initialize rank selector on the right element [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/118695 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [13:27:47] addshore: if i entered 2nd July 63 .... i might expect july 2 1963 [13:28:02] at some point, maybe i'll begin thinking 2063 [13:28:14] well, your not allowed to think that any more ;p [13:28:15] for wikidata i would say year 63 [13:29:21] aude: addshore: yeah, let's not be too smart about that and assume that users have some brain left.. :) let's take the year as it is [13:29:29] yeah [13:29:47] if needed, they will learn how things work on wikidata [13:30:02] hehe.. yes. they're doing that all the time.. :) [13:30:53] (03PS2) 10Adrian Lang: Initialize rank selector on the right element [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/118695 [13:31:40] addshore: you need a separate class for that? because of localization of "AD"? [13:32:03] well, I need to do checks to see if its BC / AD etc. in lots of different places [13:32:20] ic [13:32:21] would make sense to have a general class doign it rather than copying this code into more places [13:32:28] EraParser seems ok [13:32:34] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/118695 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [13:32:49] and who knows, some calendar might have more than 2 eras :) [13:32:52] yup, thats the one I went for, although I misstyped EarParser to begin with [13:33:01] hahaha! [13:33:08] do your ears need to be parsed? :P [13:33:54] indeed, they do seem in need of a good parsing! [13:36:51] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/118695 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [13:45:03] addshore: there's one remainig issue with the time parser.. [13:45:10] I'll file another bug [13:45:11] what is it? :P [13:45:13] kk :P [13:46:19] if you give e.g. "December 2012" with precision "day" the parser will still say ok, but the precision should be month, right? [13:50:21] addshore: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62730 [13:50:29] Tobi_WMDE: will take a look and have a think [13:50:40] :) [13:50:46] Tobi_WMDE: if you were to input -1000BC what would you expect to happen? [13:51:11] hehe [13:51:27] ok, not thinking much about it, it should be 1000 bc [13:51:38] thats what I was thinking :P [13:51:47] and +10000BC would just throw an exception? ;p [13:51:49] thinking more about it, it should indeed be 1000 ac [13:51:55] i know :/ [13:51:59] not sure what to do :P [13:52:23] hm [13:52:47] always throw an exception when using +/- and bc at the same time [13:52:54] probably.. [13:54:02] okay :D thats what I think I am doing now ;p [13:54:15] -1000BC and +1000BC should both be "1000 BC" in my opinion. just ignore the sign.. [13:55:12] basically "BC" means "* -1" so "+1000 BC" means "+1000 * -1" which is "-1000". [13:55:36] if somebody enters "-1000 BC" he is obviously confused. just ignore the "-". [14:02:17] (03PS2) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Support 5+ digit years in DateTimeParser [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119040 (owner: 10Addshore) [14:02:54] addshore: added 3 more testcases to https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/119040/ [14:03:05] 2 of them are going to fail, but they should not.. :( [14:03:56] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119040 (owner: 10Addshore) [14:05:18] (03PS1) 10Adrian Lang: Render title attribute for links to properties [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119048 [14:06:57] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119048 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [14:09:23] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119040 (owner: 10Addshore) [14:14:05] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119048 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [14:21:41] (03PS5) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Avoid deep copy of global mediaWiki object [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/113342 [14:22:22] year first date formats ~:/ [14:22:24] hmmmm [14:22:44] guess ill make another patch for it [14:23:01] (03PS3) 10Addshore: Support 1 2 and 3 digit years in DateTimeParser [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119038 [14:23:18] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/113342 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [14:24:45] (03PS3) 10Addshore: Support 5+ digit years in DateTimeParser [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119040 [14:24:47] (03PS1) 10Addshore: Factor EraParser out from YearTimeParser [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119051 [14:24:51] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119038 (owner: 10Addshore) [14:26:20] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119040 (owner: 10Addshore) [14:27:06] (03PS2) 10Addshore: Factor EraParser out from YearTimeParser [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119051 [14:27:39] (03PS12) 10Aude: Use BaseTemplateAfterPortlet hook to add "edit / add links" link [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/118292 [14:27:51] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119051 (owner: 10Addshore) [14:28:11] (03CR) 10Aude: Use BaseTemplateAfterPortlet hook to add "edit / add links" link (035 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/118292 (owner: 10Aude) [14:29:37] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119051 (owner: 10Addshore) [14:30:56] Tobi_WMDE: struggling to think of how to always parse things with the year first in the time parser [14:30:57] :P [14:30:59] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/113342 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [14:31:11] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/118292 (owner: 10Aude) [14:31:28] addshore: hm? [14:31:43] you mean things like 2012-12-12? [14:32:18] well currently we presume the last numbers are always the year, i.e. 2012-12-12 turns to 2012-12-0012 to be parsed :P [14:32:58] fun times! [14:33:07] how are we doing wiht jenkins [14:33:08] ? [14:33:11] addshore: but that is currently working. only with your latest patch to support 5+ digit years it breaks [14:33:35] its with the previous patch actually supporting 1 2 and 3 digit years :P [14:33:40] will take a poke and see [14:33:47] aude: not worked on it. was busy with other things [14:33:48] :) [14:34:02] addshore: ok, yes [14:34:13] i think -200BC and +100AD should be fine, but -200AD and +100BC should fail [14:34:14] (03PS2) 10Aude: Move isTitleInEntityNamespace to NamespaceUtils with tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/118688 [14:34:20] addshore: how did you get jenkins-job-builder on your windows? [14:34:25] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/118688 (owner: 10Aude) [14:34:36] just git colned it, read the readme, did that it said :P [14:34:39] *cloned [14:34:49] addshore: from openstack? [14:34:53] nooooo [14:34:55] from gerrit! [14:35:03] addshore: ah, ok [14:35:09] made a .ini with the jenkins instance, my user, my api token [14:35:15] then ran it and it worked [= [14:35:37] just got to specific the path to the job builder config repo on your local machine and the .ini with the details your have! [14:35:37] addshore: ah, btw, what jenkins users do we currently have on the new instance? [14:35:49] Tobi_WMDE: will pm you :P [14:35:55] addshore: ok [14:37:27] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119038 (owner: 10Addshore) [14:42:58] (03PS3) 10Addshore: Factor EraParser out from YearTimeParser [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119051 [14:43:00] (03PS4) 10Addshore: Support 1 2 and 3 digit years in DateTimeParser [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119038 [14:43:02] (03PS4) 10Addshore: Support 5+ digit years in DateTimeParser [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119040 [14:43:06] Tobi_WMDE: fixed the year first issue ^^ [= [14:43:16] addshore: wohoo [14:43:23] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119040 (owner: 10Addshore) [14:44:37] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119051 (owner: 10Addshore) [14:46:14] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119038 (owner: 10Addshore) [14:47:53] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119040 (owner: 10Addshore) [14:49:58] (03PS4) 10Addshore: Factor EraParser out from YearTimeParser [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119051 [14:50:33] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119051 (owner: 10Addshore) [14:50:35] (03PS4) 10Aude: Fix watchlist hook query in client [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/118458 [14:51:05] (03PS1) 10Addshore: Parse Eras in DateTimeParser [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119057 [14:51:32] right, there are 4 lovely time patchs up for you Tobi_WMDE ;p [14:52:18] gah, i'm getting gerrit server unavailable every other time [14:52:37] :> [14:52:47] "this webpage is not available" [14:52:53] addshore: :) jup. will look at them [14:53:51] hmm Tobi_WMDE re https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62730 [14:54:16] June 2010 with the precision of Day as an option I guess should return 1 June 2010 with the precision day [14:54:38] addshore: yes, that would also be a solution [14:54:41] the parsers always obey the options they are passed [14:54:44] (03PS1) 10Daniel Kinzler: (bug 62491) Service for checking permissions. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119058 [14:54:58] what would "2012" with precision "day" return [14:54:59] ? [14:55:37] january 1 2012 [14:56:31] ok [14:56:41] I'm fine with that. [14:56:54] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119051 (owner: 10Addshore) [14:57:10] hmm, unfortunatly that isnt currently implemented Tobi_WMDE :P [14:57:37] addshore: I know. that's what the bug is about. current implementation breaks the ui [14:57:49] breaks the UI? :O [14:58:03] because it gives you back a date with no day but precision "day" [14:58:26] so thats a bug in the formatter? :P [14:58:58] if the formatter sees a 0 in year month or day that is needed it should be formatted as it were 1? :P [14:59:24] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/118458 (owner: 10Aude) [14:59:54] I guess if we change the parsing it might even need a tweak in the DataValues parser that just gets the Iso format currently and the precision ajnd with that it could add any 1s that are needed [15:01:31] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119057 (owner: 10Addshore) [15:02:25] addshore: not sure it is in the formatter. I would still say it's in the parser. [15:02:31] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119051 (owner: 10Addshore) [15:03:33] addshore: because the frontend would not send a request to the formatter when the parser returns something like that [15:05:26] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119058 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [15:05:47] okay Tobi_WMDE will try to take a look at that one at some point this week also :) [15:06:10] addshore: great! [15:06:21] addshore: you cloned jenkins-jb from here? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/admin/projects/integration/jenkins-job-builder [15:06:30] yup [15:06:44] and then python setup.py install [15:06:45] that's not the config, it's the scripts right? [15:06:49] * aude has those [15:06:50] yes [15:07:00] Tobi_WMDE: I guess, if thats what the readme says :P [15:07:10] yes. :) [15:07:33] think I need to do this as admin.. [15:07:44] :O I didnt [15:07:44] on windows, no idea [15:07:44] :> [15:07:56] or is this being installed in the instance? [15:07:58] addshore: where the hell does it install it to? [15:08:05] oh, even when I ran setup.py there was some small error right at the end but most of it seemed to look okay [15:08:09] Tobi_WMDE: no idea :P [15:08:51] there should be a jenkins-jobs.py in the end, right? [15:09:15] I hate this python stuff.. [15:09:21] i have a jenkins-job script [15:09:21] Tobi_WMDE: what's what i have [15:09:22] not .py [15:09:24] it's like git-review [15:09:34] ugly [15:09:39] :> [15:09:40] indeed# [15:09:52] addshore: just jenkins-jobs? [15:10:06] for me yes [15:10:09] i have a config folder also [15:10:37] and etc/jenkins_jobs.ini [15:11:08] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/118292 (owner: 10Aude) [15:11:25] aude: i have a config folder too but i dont use it, and i put my ini somewhere else also [15:11:47] ini can be anywhere [15:12:26] yee [15:13:22] then I think I just run something like [15:13:23] jenkins-jobs --conf ./../jenkins.ini update ./../jenkins-job-builder-config [15:13:28] yep [15:15:24] <^d> Tobi_WMDE: The difference being jenkins-jobs is useful but git-review isn't! ;-) [15:15:37] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/118688 (owner: 10Aude) [15:16:25] ^d indeed [15:27:17] what'S with wikidatajenkins failing with nulljobs again? [15:29:58] Hello. I have a question [15:30:00] https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q986728&curid=936371&diff=116715020&oldid=116715004 [15:30:17] Someone is deleting Korean label without Korean interwiki [15:30:38] So I reverted it but he undid my revert [15:30:56] Did I do wrong? [15:32:43] Yuu-chan: Looks like you were fighting over the label *and* the link, no? [15:32:46] He persists Structured data is interwiki but I cannot agree his opinion [15:32:59] but generally: links can and should exist even if there is no corresponding link to wikipedia [15:33:12] Deleting link is correct contribution [15:33:14] ^d: I second that! :P [15:33:16] No, that's silly [15:33:21] Because Kowiki article is deleted [15:33:35] we want labels and descriptions in as many languages as possible. that has nothing to do with interwikis (site links) [15:33:39] But I think label should not e deleted [15:33:45] site links just tell us which wikis have articles about the item [15:34:04] DanielK_WMDE_: Would you mind if you talk this for him? [15:34:06] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:관인생략 [15:34:13] He just ignore my talk [15:34:28] I tried to revert but he said I should not revert it [15:34:54] Yuu-chan: I'm probably not the most authoritative person to do this... which I help to design and implement the data model, I'm not an active member of the community. [15:35:08] i can leave a message, but maybe you want someone like addshore to talk to him :) [15:35:13] Umm... Then what should I do? [15:35:33] Thank you for helping me [15:35:35] Yuu-chan: stay in the channel and find a wikidata admin [15:35:40] whats occouring? :) *reads up* [15:35:59] :p [15:36:00] Someone is deleting Korean label [15:36:14] addshore: someone thinks labels should only exist if there'S a corresponding sitelink. [15:36:16] silly [15:36:54] *looks at the item* [15:37:12] https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q986728&curid=936371&diff=116715020&oldid=116715004 [15:37:16] This is one example [15:37:24] addshore: Just slap someone on the back of the wrist, it's what I'd do anyway [15:37:43] addshore: yay, updated the jobs [15:38:09] https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q6672446&curid=6505244&diff=116749696&oldid=116723868 [15:38:21] He said me my contribution is vandal... [15:38:27] I cannot believe it... [15:39:41] Yuu-chan: Im guessing https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:%EA%B4%80%EC%9D%B8%EC%83%9D%EB%9E%B5#.EB.A0.88.EC.9D.B4.EB.B8.94_.EC.82.AD.EC.A0.9C_.EC.9E.90.EC.A0.9C_.EC.9A.94.EC.B2.AD is related? [15:40:21] let's hope he understands english [15:40:23] addshore: hm, if I click on configure for a job on jenkins, there's this huge git-plugin stacktrace we were seeing some time ago.. [15:40:41] is there an "admins by language" category? [15:40:41] seems to not affect the job though [15:40:51] He can understand English [15:40:53] addshore: lrn2speak Korean :p (but yes; seems related) [15:40:58] DanielK_WMDE_: they have abbel en-3 on their user page so it should be okay :) [15:41:05] Is it okay if I revert his contributions? [15:41:11] Tobi_WMDE: O_ thats odd, did you change on of the job configs? [15:41:11] Yuu-chan: Yes [15:41:36] addshore: just updated from what was in the github repo [15:41:46] hmm O_o [15:41:48] but saw this stacktrace before already [15:41:49] very odd... [15:42:06] addshore: aude: will now try to install phpunit properly [15:42:08] hmm, lets see if I actually pushed my most recent changes :P [15:42:15] Tobi_WMDE: ok [15:42:22] pear instal 3.7.32 [15:42:25] addshore: please do so [15:42:56] aude; so any chance of deploying guidedtours on Wikidata today? :) or wait for the hoo to get back tomorrow [15:43:01] Tobi_WMDE: all up to date [15:43:05] JohnLewis: tomorrow [15:43:11] aude; Alright :) [15:43:43] DanielK_WMDE: If you have time, could you have a look to: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Tpt/RFC [15:44:16] DanielK_WMDE: It's an early draft of proposal on how improve metadata management in Wikisources [15:44:18] addshore: y u no review? https://github.com/wmde/WikibaseInternalSerialization/pull/15 [15:44:38] JohnLewis: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments#Week_of_March_17th [15:44:49] tomorrow, this time [15:45:09] assuming lydia is ok with it [15:45:17] Alright. [15:45:27] the tour on test.wikidata looks good [15:45:28] I don't think Lydia will have any issues with it. [15:45:35] she says ok [15:47:11] aude: Could you have a look to https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/114979 please? I've improved points highlighted by reviews [15:47:20] aude: addshore: we would probably need to get rid of the broken phpunit installation [15:47:30] addshore: how was it installed? [15:47:43] how was what installed? :P [15:47:52] ahh phpunit, puppet [15:48:07] addshore: ok. how do we get best rid of it again? [15:48:18] remove it from puppet ;p [15:48:24] then remove it from the instance [15:48:59] see https://github.com/wmde/puppet-jenkins/blob/eqiad/manifests/jenkins.pp#L36 [15:49:09] remove that, update puppet on the box and then del the dir :> [15:49:58] what a mess [15:50:11] you have to mark stuff in puppet as "absent" for it to go away [15:50:14] generaly [15:50:26] indeed, :P but eww :P [15:50:34] we only have 1 instnce we have to deal with ;p [15:50:51] Tpt: shall look [15:50:59] aude: Thanks [15:53:37] addshore: so everything is in the eqiad branch of puppet-jenkins [15:53:45] yup [15:54:09] did it there just incase the old instnce was auto pulling and updating :) [15:54:10] it's just a git clone [15:54:27] so delete the directory and remove it from the puppet [15:54:40] then if we want, we can add the pear install thing [15:55:08] Tpt: reading. So far, I noticed that the FRBR terms should be explained a bit more, especially expression vs. manifestation. [15:55:52] it shoudl be clear how they are related, and why they can be conflated in this context (or why and when they should not be conflated) [15:56:59] FRBR? [15:57:07] DanielK_WMDE_: Thanks. I'll write a few links on it [15:57:20] aude: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FRBR [15:57:40] ah, ok [15:58:14] .gz file gets opened by image viewer? Lydia_WMDE: what have you KDE people been smoking now? :) [15:58:29] JeroenDeDauw: :* <- crack [15:58:30] ;-) [15:58:34] cat.png.gz [15:58:37] of course :) [15:58:56] JeroenDeDauw: we have kio slaves which is why this works [15:58:57] Tpt: typo: "books that one more than one author" [15:59:53] DanielK_WMDE_: Fixed. Thanks [16:02:11] Tpt: you offer two solutions that both involve pretty hefty custom software solutions for Wikisource. I'd try to at least outline a third solution that needs no custom software at all. It would be good to see how far one could get that way, and what the disadvantages would be. [16:03:15] DanielK_WMDE_: Thanks a lot. If there is a solution that doesn't require heavy customization it would be amazing :-) [16:03:53] Tpt: well, I think most of the data could be maintained on wikidata, but there's the question fo granualrity and scope. [16:04:43] you could probably manage meta-data about works, manifestations, and perhaps also volumnes, etc, on wikidata [16:05:06] but chapters or even pages would probably not be approved. [16:05:19] the goal is to have something only for additional metadata (volume, table of content, pagination...) [16:05:56] work and manifestation metadata should definitively be on Wikidata [16:06:02] yea, see... i'm wondering if it would be possible to build something flexible and lightweight for this kind of thing [16:06:11] we'll need it for more things than books [16:06:46] so, if software development is needed, we should think hard about how specialized (or generic) the solution should be. [16:07:33] I believe that a toolkit that would allow to embed Wikibase claims easily in custom kind of "entity" would be very nice for this kind of use case. [16:07:35] Tpt: also.... what's the benefit of having the details machine readable? I mean, it's always nice, but is there a concrete use case for machine readable info about individual pages? [16:07:41] (or chapters?) [16:07:56] Tobi_WMDE: any luck with phpunit? [16:08:26] DanielK_WMDE: The table of content should be machine readable in order to be able to build ebooks in "one click" [16:08:46] Tpt: dat values and typers are already in a reusable library. Claims are bound to the Wikibase data model, but that separate from the extension, so can also be reused- [16:09:10] Tpt: could be done with a category, or by listing backlinks. [16:10:38] Chapters should be displayed in a specific order and displayed chapter titles doesn't match everytime ns0 pages names [16:11:42] Currently the epub export tool parse wikitext base TOCs [16:12:31] seems Yuu-chan already asked what I was to ask [16:12:40] and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:BookManagerv2 has already a nice TOC management [16:14:59] JeroenDeDauw: http://pastebin.com/RL8f67fQ [16:15:14] aude: getting the same error now as addshore did [16:15:37] but now it's also happening when I actually try it in the console on the instance [16:16:05] aude: could be be because we have hpunit 4.0.9 now, don't know [16:16:12] we should try the 3.7 version [16:17:09] use 3.7 [16:17:26] 1) same as the real jenkins 2) works with mediawiki [16:17:44] see https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58881 which i might poke on in free time [16:18:09] sudo pear install pear.phpunit.de/PHPUnit-3.7.32 [16:18:45] aude: Tobi_WMDE I had the problem when using the clone of the wmf phpunit though [16:18:53] and usign the same commands as their jenkins :P [16:18:57] paste? [16:19:40] addshore: might be a different issue, but then you may have issues running mediawiki tests with phpunit 4.0 [16:19:47] also* [16:21:38] indeed [16:22:00] aude: 3.7.32 is installed now.. let's see [16:22:05] ok [16:22:50] Tobi_WMDE: what's the status of the missing termbox issue? [16:22:57] any clues what's going on yet? [16:23:16] DanielK_WMDE_: unclear. [16:23:21] can't reproduce it anymore [16:23:26] o_O [16:23:33] can you go to the beat instance and try it there? [16:23:37] *beta [16:23:38] maybe a transition issue, with old stuff cached somewhere? [16:23:45] if so, it'll hit us again during deployment [16:23:56] DanielK_WMDE_: after I've cleared my cookies it worked.. [16:24:13] DanielK_WMDE_: hope that it will hit us on test.* first [16:24:20] Tobi_WMDE: did you clear just your cookies, or also the browser cache? [16:24:24] i'm suspecting cached JS [16:24:39] DanielK_WMDE_: no, only cookies [16:24:45] and only the uls cookies [16:25:09] and I guess it was the uls-previous-languages cookie [16:25:19] but cannot reproduce anymore [16:25:23] anyway, i'm seeing the termbox on beta, no problem [16:25:36] aude: addshore phpunit running.. \o/ [16:25:41] "Deutsch, Plattdüütsch, Türkçe" [16:25:43] w00t! [16:25:46] interresting choice :) [16:25:49] xD what did you do Tobi_WMDE ? [16:26:01] addshore: think it was the version [16:26:05] wait... is jenkins running it yet? :P [16:26:10] now its on 3.7.32 and working [16:26:15] did not work with 4.x [16:26:19] i don't know what error you had but know it won't work yet with mediawiki tests [16:26:24] I was usign 3.7.32! :P [16:26:28] addshore: http://wdjenkins.wmflabs.org/ci/job/wikibase-client-tests/163/console [16:26:46] WTF! but yay :) told you it needed a second pair of eyes :P [16:26:47] yay [16:27:12] addshore: oh, and I'm cd-ing into the test directory first and then executing phpunit.php [16:27:21] I changed that too.. [16:27:23] I tried that too :< [16:27:28] ok [16:27:34] ;_; it just doesnt like me ;p [16:27:57] addshore: aude: ok, will work on the other jobs then [16:28:10] and put them into the job-builder config [16:28:17] ok [16:28:52] addshore: btw, we could probably puppetize the phpunit part as well.. [16:28:59] just two shell commands [16:29:07] what are they? [16:29:09] should work, right? [16:29:16] should... [16:29:17] eventually we want to use the phar [16:29:41] i wouldn't put too much time, although it is just 2 commands [16:29:53] addshore: pear config-set auto_discover 1 [16:29:53] pear install pear.phpunit.de/PHPUnit-3.7.32 [16:30:07] we don't want pear update [16:30:19] aude: not sure if the phar works with mediawiki's testrunner [16:30:25] Tobi_WMDE: that's the point [16:30:34] guess not [16:30:35] once it does, we want to use it [16:31:02] yes, sure. but putting those two commands into puppet for now, does not hurt I guess [16:31:07] ok [16:33:27] oh, i'm getting a nulljob with SUCCESS now. nice [16:41:44] Let's get a clone of this Wikibase thing [16:43:30] addshore: can we trigger a build? [16:43:51] trigger a build? [16:43:56] a new build [16:44:00] the* build [16:44:03] ahh yus, gimie a sec :P [16:44:05] THE build [16:44:18] THE [16:45:36] disabled the build jobs on the old jenkins [16:45:48] let's see if the new jenkins runs them [16:45:58] building [16:46:22] done :) [16:46:31] dont know where the gerrit bot is :P [16:46:48] it will be back later [16:46:56] victim of toollabs move [16:47:05] ahahh [16:47:07] addshore: what is odd, is that even if the new jenkins is successful, the links in the message from the WikidataJenkins user are wrong [16:47:10] broken [16:47:15] * aude assumed one of the other maintainers moved it [16:47:26] apparently not so it will be batch moved [16:47:38] * aude would have moved it [16:47:43] indeed, guess its something missing somewhere :P [16:48:37] we had nulljobs back when i worked on the original jenkins [16:48:55] can't remember how we fixed [16:50:54] omg! tests are replace the contents of my sites table [16:50:58] replacing* [16:54:07] aude: ?? [16:54:19] i suspect WikibaseLuaIntegrationTestItemSetUpHelper [17:04:36] did someone just restart jenkins? [17:06:05] Tobi_WMDE: no [17:06:11] hm [17:06:11] ok [17:06:15] not i [17:06:17] probably it did itself [17:07:39] just try to fix https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-7024?page=com.atlassian.streams.streams-jira-plugin:activity-stream-issue-tab [17:09:44] addshore: did christopher get the publich url for the scrumbugs from you? [17:09:50] which he requested? [17:11:32] doesn't look like it [17:11:58] it won't let me [17:12:01] aude: fixed the nulljob issue [17:12:17] how? [17:12:34] there should be on there now Tobi_WMDE [17:13:08] addshore: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:NovaAddress ? [17:13:29] aude: seems some hudson vars are not set when the system configuration gets never saved.. [17:13:39] Tobi_WMDE: ok [17:13:45] aude yus [17:14:01] which seems to be the case when we install jenkins with puppet and just copy over the config [17:14:14] addshore: it doesn't allow adding ips [17:14:15] odd [17:14:21] do you have special permissions? [17:14:30] [13WikibaseInternalSerialization] 15JeroenDeDauw pushed 2 new commits to 06integration: 02http://git.io/dyNpIA [17:14:30] 13WikibaseInternalSerialization/06integration 149a86178 15jeroendedauw: Implement RealItemsTest [17:14:30] 13WikibaseInternalSerialization/06integration 14cc6f177 15jeroendedauw: Add correctness check to real items test and fix found bug [17:14:34] aude, I just allocated one [17:14:39] 208.80.155.164 [17:14:58] oh in scrumbugs [17:15:01] yeee :P [17:15:11] * aude not member of scrumbugs [17:16:01] ahhhh! [17:16:09] addshore: we are doing a CTF at 208.80.155.164? [17:16:23] What do I get if I win? [17:16:38] aude you are now ;p [17:16:41] yay! [17:16:52] JeroenDeDauw: cant today :/ and if you win you get NOTHING! :> [17:16:58] addshore: aude: I disabled all phpunit jobs on the old instance now. they should be fine on the new one.. [17:17:04] Tobi_WMDE: \o/ [17:17:09] woo Tobi_WMDE ! [17:17:18] so, only the browsertests to go.. [17:17:22] if all looks good tommorw then we can delete the old instance and merge the eqiad branch [17:17:30] ahh, once youve done the browserr tests ;p [17:19:16] [13jenkins-job-builder-config] 15tobijat created 06add_buildjobs (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/ryMY5A [17:19:16] 13jenkins-job-builder-config/06add_buildjobs 145c2c40a 15Tobias Gritschacher: Added PHPUnit jobs for the daily Wikidata build [17:19:31] [13jenkins-job-builder-config] 15tobijat opened pull request #1: Added PHPUnit jobs for the daily Wikidata build (06master...06add_buildjobs) 02http://git.io/F7kC5A [17:19:32] addshore: aude: https://github.com/wmde/jenkins-job-builder-config/pull/1 [17:19:49] works. and was tested in production. :-P [17:22:11] [13jenkins-job-builder-config] 15addshore 04deleted 06add_buildjobs at 145c2c40a: 02http://git.io/WKhBww [17:23:04] Anyone want to join this game of spot the difference? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bi8g9SOCEAA1AEe.png:large [17:26:26] JeroenDeDauw: one has a filename one doesnt? [17:26:40] and the ID :P [17:31:39] While editing a page in Wikidata in my native language i got an error message saying There is a constraint violation for description "Alhambra सिनेमा..." for language code "hi". What does this mean? [17:32:10] Lydia_WMDE please see [17:32:32] shrees: that the description in hi is too long [17:32:51] ok thanks [17:33:15] shrees: want to provide a patch to make this easier to understand? :) [17:33:26] addshore: if I want to add jenkins plugin to the puppet, all I have to do is, put the hpi files in the "plugins" folder and add them in jenkins.pp [17:33:28] correct? [17:33:41] yeah [17:33:50] addshore: just saw that ansicolor was missing [17:35:08] Lydia_WMDE I am working with translation in Hindi, native language of India, so that Indians can use Wikidata with ease [17:35:28] cool [17:35:47] Amyone wants a food? From http://www.lieferando.de/lieferservice-burger-time-berlin#!cart [17:36:09] * aude wants to go home [17:36:24] addshore: the file name is not part of the object - the way the debugger shows this is confusing - I also spend some time looking at that [17:36:54] addshore: https://github.com/wmde/puppet-jenkins/pull/16 [17:39:46] Tobi_WMDE: addshore done [17:44:45] Tobi_WMDE: addshore https://dpaste.de/uXPD [17:45:07] trolololool JeroenDeDauw [17:54:29] "de":["Weltall","All","Kosmos"],"fr":{"1":"Cosmos"},"eo":["Kosmo"],"it":{"2":"cosmo","3":"spazio"},"nl":["Universum","Kosmos","Cosmos"] [17:54:35] for great inconsistency [18:01:17] [13WikibaseInternalSerialization] 15JeroenDeDauw pushed 1 new commit to 06integration: 02http://git.io/jsI-sA [18:01:17] 13WikibaseInternalSerialization/06integration 14d7ee01c 15jeroendedauw: Add r10499806 of Q1 that has inconsistent alias lists [18:07:34] Tobi_WMDE: review ALL of the tests https://github.com/wmde/WikibaseInternalSerialization/pull/15 [18:07:41] Very little code actually [18:26:54] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/jenkinstest/64fa846 : Adrian Lang The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/20958360 [18:36:37] [13WikibaseInternalSerialization] 15JeroenDeDauw pushed 1 new commit to 06integration: 02http://git.io/S_l48Q [18:36:37] 13WikibaseInternalSerialization/06integration 14c06e305 15jeroendedauw: Remove unused imports [18:52:38] Hey Wikidatians! [18:53:13] Is Wikidata Phase 2 enabled anywhere, and if so, how do I know it is? [18:53:19] jeremyb: ^^ [18:54:16] Lydia_WMDE, Tobi_WMDE, addshore, aude, dennyvrandecic, JohnFLewis [18:54:38] it is [18:54:46] on all wikipedias, wikivoyage and wikisource [18:55:10] [18:55:15] Fix your search engine, then! [18:55:17] [18:55:24] Lydia_WMDE: Where can I look up the info? [18:56:15] what exactly are you trying to do? [18:56:38] See how I can use data from Wikidata inside a template [18:56:56] ie. how do I call it, or whatever technical term is there for using the data [18:57:11] you are looking for Lua and the property parser function [18:57:29] How would I know that? [18:57:42] ie. Is it written down somewhere, or do I just have to simply know it? [18:58:10] * JohnFLewis feels happy he got pinged along with all the Wikidata staffers + denny :P [18:58:46] twkozlowski: It should be written down somewhere - let me see if I can find it [18:59:32] Thanks :-) [18:59:41] Maybe it is, and I just missed it [19:00:00] * Meiko is sad that he was not pinged [19:01:16] Lydia_WMDE: Is it actually put somewhere? If not; may be worth doing so tbh. [19:01:38] * twkozlowski has never met Meiko before [19:01:41] Hi! [19:01:47] Hi :3 [19:01:55] I'm mostly on mediawiki.org, not wikidata [19:01:57] JohnFLewis: it is somewhere i am sure - just not linked [19:02:05] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:GeorgeBarnick is me though [19:02:23] Lydia_WMDE: Well, get it linked! :) [19:02:48] i won't get to it anytime soon, sorry [19:02:52] just too much other stuff [19:03:18] Lydia_WMDE: Do you know where it is at least and I'll deal with it? [19:03:19] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikibaseClient/Lua is what I found [19:03:36] from https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Wikibase_Client#Data_transclusion [19:03:57] That I had to search MW.org and not Wikidata is also a tad confusing.) [19:04:46] JohnFLewis: lua is at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Wikibase_Client/Lua but i think there is a page somewhere on wikidata too linking there and explaining the whole data access thing [19:04:58] but maybe that is just wishful thinking :P [19:05:24] twkozlowski: Wikidata stuff is quite spread out tbh, we still have stuff on MetaWiki ( Lydia_WMDE, want me to look into moving some stuff over to Wikidata if we still have meta-only pages? ) [19:05:35] Maybe it is :p [19:06:01] yes if you could help move some stuff that'd be awesome [19:06:29] As long as it is not as annoying at the status updates archive move :p [19:07:12] ;-) [19:07:26] Tpt: yay! @ sidebar [19:07:35] where's the bot? [19:07:59] Tpt: want to write 2 or 3 sentences to explain it for the community? (we can include it in the next weekly summary) [19:08:34] oh by the way [19:08:36] aude: i think yuvy wrote it is offline for a bit because of the dc move [19:08:41] before I quit this channel [19:08:46] YOU GUYS ARE TOTALLY AWESOME [19:09:20] twkozlowski: I'll say thanks on behalf of people doing the work while I sit here and idle in the channel ;) [19:09:33] ;-) [19:09:45] * Lydia_WMDE pets JohnFLewis [19:09:48] now now [19:09:50] ah, that's the problem [19:10:08] I really should get to work and add some more railway stations [19:10:21] you should! [19:10:24] twkozlowski: Please do :D [19:10:30] and people should stop sending emails!!! [19:10:31] https://maps.google.nl/maps?q=http://tools.wmflabs.org/railways/map/&hl=en&ll=52.501385,13.346758&spn=0.036208,0.090895&sll=48.806863,5.603027&sspn=10.030913,23.269043&t=m&z=14 [19:10:31] -.- [19:10:36] inbox overload [19:10:49] Yeah, e-mail! what the hell [19:10:57] just come to IRC talk to us :) [19:11:16] * twkozlowski waves [19:11:24] Lydia_WMDE: yeah [19:11:34] * aude could have moved the bot but assumed someone else was [19:11:43] * JohnFLewis goes to send an email to Lydia_WMDE [19:11:57] aude: Thanks a lot for the review [19:12:10] Tpt: thanks for the patch! [19:12:51] * Lydia_WMDE eyes JohnFLewis [19:14:31] Lydia_WMDE: We should maybe plan how to deploy sidebar before communicating much about it. I believe that frwikisource will be happy to test it (it's my home wiki so communication will be easy). [19:15:08] Tpt: i suppose it does nothing until settings are added [19:15:17] which would be up to the communities to want them [19:15:18] aude: Yes [19:15:32] Tpt: ok when do you have time for that? [19:15:39] and sounds good [19:16:07] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/9d16bba : jenkins-bot The build was broken. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/20962168 [19:16:20] Maybe Thursday afternoon (CET)? [19:16:28] let me check [19:16:42] it would be "deployed" next tuesday but unused until we set otherwise [19:17:00] There is also an issue with positioning that should be solve (the sister projects links should be before sitelinks as it's done most wikis and not after) [19:17:01] Tpt: that works - 5? later? [19:17:31] 5 pm should be fine for me [19:17:38] Lydia_WMDE: Do you care about translation pages for Wikidata on MetaWiki if the respective page is at Wikidata now with said translations? [19:18:01] Tpt: cool - let's do that then :) [19:18:09] JohnFLewis: depends on the content i think [19:18:33] JohnFLewis: mostly i think a lot of those pages on meta by now are not really useful anymore and should probably just be archived [19:18:34] Tpt: on wikivoyage, they put "related sites" under tools [19:19:04] kind of makes more sense after other languages or before, tough [19:19:30] Lydia_WMDE: Archive useless content and delete translations as appropriate seem fair? [19:19:38] then move useful content to Wikidata. [19:19:49] i think so yeah [19:19:54] Alright [19:19:58] aude: Wikivoyages, most of wikisources and nlwiki puts sister project before sitelinks so I think we should match this position [19:20:28] I believe that this position has been chosen because there may be a lot of language links [19:20:37] makes sense [19:28:48] do we have a process for giving adminship on test.wikidata.org ? [19:28:57] or can crats give them out freely? [19:29:09] no process [19:30:01] and we really need more bureaucrats [19:30:38] 'we really need more bureaucrats' aude: Why? [19:30:41] I agree with that - but I have someone asking me to make them admin, and I wondered if I just may do so [19:30:46] do it [19:30:51] OK thx :) [19:32:13] JohnFLewis: it shouldn't be up to me, denny and daniel to give rights [19:32:16] only* [19:32:30] suppose it was just for technical reasons we are bureaucrat [19:32:48] Yeah - true. [19:33:11] If want someone to just manage rights instead of you, I'd be willing to help it needed. [19:33:11] also seems wikidata doesn't have very many (silly to have staff as bureaucrats there) [19:33:41] I am not staff ;) [19:33:53] dennyvrandecic: Any more; but you were! :p [19:35:55] * aude use staff account so often that i forgot my password [19:36:05] :p [19:36:13] must wait 5 minutes to try again [19:42:08] aude: I've just uploaded a change for the positioning of the otherProjects section https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/119101/ [19:42:27] ok [19:46:21] There is a failure in browsertests run by Jenkins: http://wdjenkins.wmflabs.org/ci/job/wikibase-build-browsertests-sauce/lastFailedBuild/console [19:47:13] aude: let's crat JohnFLewis :) shall I? [19:48:19] go ahead [19:49:52] done [19:50:13] ok, finally going home :) [20:31:31] Ohnoez, a dennyvrandecic appeared again [20:31:36] * JeroenDeDauw wonders if there is a pattern [20:32:18] addshore: ping [20:33:15] JeroenDeDauw: Find the pattern :D [20:35:16] JohnFLewis: http://bit.ly/1qMFQXx [20:36:18] JeroenDeDauw: If you had google 'dennyvrandecic' I would have laughed slightly. [20:48:31] wut?? [20:49:13] JohnFLewis: that gives me http://www.aifb.kit.edu/web/Denny_Vrandecic/en [20:49:19] It's a denny alright [21:39:26] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/e8b18d8 : Translation updater bot The build was fixed. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/20972239 [21:46:07] [13WikibaseInternalSerialization] 15thiemowmde 04deleted 06integration at 14c06e305: 02http://git.io/XDyzYg [21:48:56] Thiemo_WMDE: http://www.bn2vs.com/blog/2014/03/17/big-ball-of-mud/ [21:49:29] you have blog? ;-) [21:49:58] Thiemo_WMDE: I now do again yes... http://www.bn2vs.com/blog/2014/02/15/i-did-not-do-it-again/ [21:54:55] found your missing posts from may 2011 to march 2012 in The Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20121017190225/http://blog.bn2vs.com/2012/03/ [21:55:22] huhwhat [21:55:28] I looked there and did not find them [21:56:00] Thiemo_WMDE: ty! [21:56:29] seems it's archived under the subdomain for some reason. [21:56:44] 'Those backups where not backed up though' Well, those backups would not have been backed up anyway. [21:57:02] Thiemo_WMDE: yeah, that's where it was back then - guess I forgot about that when I was checking the way back machine [21:57:05] Also JeroenDeDauw: *were :p [21:57:41] wut [21:57:55] See the quote I made [21:58:07] JohnFLewis: are you the one that explained the difference between "then" and "than" to me? ;p [21:58:42] Sí :p [22:00:39] JeroenDeDauw: Shall I explain Where and Were while I'm here? :D [22:04:13] JohnFLewis: how about you start a blog and create a post on how those people that rant about how others can't program can't spell themselves? :) [22:04:55] JeroenDeDauw: If I get funding off you, sure :p [22:06:08] JohnFLewis: can I fund you with sarcasm? [22:06:35] I'm not sure it is an accepted currency but sure. [22:06:53] * JohnFLewis goes to pay for hosting with sarcasm [22:07:35] on that note... Lydia_WMDE when are we launching WikidataCoin (WDC) again? [22:09:09] Oh dear... My blog theme back then was REALLY windowsy [22:20:17] when are the logs on jenkins deleted??? http://wikidata-jenkins.wmflabs.org/ci/job/wikidata-repo-api-tests/964/ [22:21:08] Thiemo_WMDE: i think a few days [22:21:23] we might be able to keep them around a bit longer, though [22:21:52] and on wikidata-jenkins they will be gone in the next few days, with that labs instance [22:22:06] seems its only 3 days. i think this is a bit to fast. [22:23:50] all i need is the name of the test that failed. don't remember it. :-( [22:24:38] it was because we ran out of disk space, but think we can increase the time we keep [22:33:00] these logs need many disk space? sounds a bit strange. [22:34:15] Thiemo_WMDE: all the "builds"... yes [22:41:22] Thiemo_WMDE: I'm so making a backup now :) [22:41:53] where do you store such backups? [22:45:37] Thiemo_WMDE: well, right now I have the whole sql dump on my clipboard, guess that's not presistent enough though [22:45:45] Hilarious that actually works now [22:45:53] Over 50 mb of text [22:46:43] computing power in 2014 is a nice thing, isn't it? [22:47:03] Yes, one can do so many stupid things now before your box chrashes [22:50:35] Thiemo_WMDE: now I have an archive on my dropbox and an import of the db on my local box [23:07:30] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15thiemowmde created 06from_numeric_id (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/571AtQ [23:07:30] 13WikibaseDataModel/06from_numeric_id 14c01b041 15Thiemo Mättig: Introduce newFromNumericId as intermediate step to replace legacy ids... [23:10:38] Thiemo_WMDE: https://github.com/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/compare/from_numeric_id?expand=1 [23:11:50] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15thiemowmde opened pull request #30: Introduce newFromNumericId as intermediate step to replace legacy ids (06master...06from_numeric_id) 02http://git.io/RhuT9g [23:31:27] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw comment on pull request #30 14c01b041: new self 02http://git.io/WFm2lw [23:35:04] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw comment on pull request #30 14c01b041: The current version is 0.7.2, so the next one will not be 0.5. 02http://git.io/NGUciA [23:35:19] Thiemo_WMDE: easy merge is easy https://github.com/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/pull/29 [23:38:24] a new version for a change in a comment? hm, really? [23:39:36] JeroenDeDauw: ? [23:40:15] Thiemo_WMDE: method deprecation is something that needs to go into the release log [23:40:23] You need to know when something was deprecated [23:40:48] Thiemo_WMDE: also note how this is just the first change since the last release [23:40:52] So it bumps the version [23:40:54] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15thiemowmde pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/TLrr5A [23:40:54] 13WikibaseDataModel/06master 14d75eb4c 15thiemowmde: Merge pull request #29 from wmde/deprecate... [23:41:02] It does not create a new release in itself [23:41:06] That would indeed be silly [23:41:16] hence the alpha? [23:41:22] yes [23:41:48] That needs to be bumped so people running dev-master do not have "0.7.2" listed, since it is not the 0.7.2 release