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[02:17:08] <Meiko>	 When in 2012 was Wikidata started?
[02:17:17] <ajr>	 Late October
[02:17:31] <ajr>	 28th I think
[02:18:10] <Meiko>	 weird
[02:18:19] <Meiko>	 How does Wikidata have its own cloak on freenode then?
[02:18:28] <ajr>	 I've never seen one
[02:18:29] <Meiko>	 Freenode group registration was closed in June 2012.
[02:18:39] <Meiko>	 I'm pretty sure it has one
[02:18:42] <Meiko>	 may be wrong
[02:19:01] <Meiko>	 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC/Cloaks has it listed
[02:19:27] <Meiko>	 ajr: if wikidata could get one after freenode closed registration then so could brickimedia :o :o
[02:19:41] <ajr>	 :O
[02:19:46] <ajr>	 but idk, look through the user list here
[02:19:48] <ajr>	 I don't see any
[02:19:58] <ajr>	 and it might also be part of wikimedia
[02:20:32] <hoo>	 we have one, yes
[02:20:48] <hoo>	 but it was registered before the site started... maybe early 2012
[02:20:56] <hoo>	 april?
[02:21:01] <ajr>	 mmm that makes sense
[02:21:05] <Meiko>	 that's possible
[02:21:27] <Meiko>	 still, maybe I could bug a freenode staff to make a brickimedia cloak :3
[02:21:37] <ajr>	 good luck :P
[02:21:47] <hoo>	 The software team started developing the software long before it went live (excluding me, back then)
[02:21:53] <Meiko>	 ajr you have too many things in your cloak already though so you wouldn't even be able to fit a brickimedia cloak ;c
[02:22:06] <ajr>	 yeah :(
[02:22:08] <hoo>	 what's taht brickmedia?
[02:22:16] <ajr>	 a little project :3
[02:22:21] <Meiko>	 http://www.brickimedia.org :3
[02:22:57] <Meiko>	 also known as a bunch of LEGO-related wikis jumping off of the wikia battleship to set sail on our tiny sailboat if you catch that analogy :P
[02:23:15] <hoo>	 ah :)
[02:23:20] <hoo>	 Thought self hosting is out
[02:25:23] <Meiko>	 brickimedia hopefully will become one of the more-successful moves off of Wikia to self-hosting
[02:25:44] <ajr>	 (doubt it :P)
[02:25:57] <legoktm>	 uncyclomedia4lyfe
[02:26:03] <ajr>	 <3
[02:26:11] <ajr>	 uncyclomedia hasn't done as well as I'd hoped :(
[02:26:15] <ajr>	 so far anyways
[02:26:22] <hoo>	 legoktm: Still active there?
[02:26:26] <ajr>	 and still no inclusion of other languages (that I've seen)
[02:26:28] <legoktm>	 we're getting killed by search engines
[02:26:33] <legoktm>	 hoo: yup!
[02:26:34] <hoo>	 Load-wise?
[02:26:39] <legoktm>	 no, our ranking
[02:26:49] <hoo>	 that's weird
[02:26:57] <legoktm>	 our website is considered to be a copy of the wikia one...so it doesn't really show up in google
[02:27:07] <hoo>	 brilliant
[02:27:21] <ajr>	 wikia needs to stop having google brownie points
[02:27:36] <ajr>	 :s
[02:27:38] <legoktm>	 it would be nice if wikia just redirected everyone to our site :P
[02:28:07] <legoktm>	 hoo: and afaik, wikivoyage is having the same issue with being a clone of wikitravel
[02:28:08] <hoo>	 legoktm: Let's build that into MediaWiki/ ane xtension as a back door *evil*
[02:28:17] <legoktm>	 :D
[02:28:26] <hoo>	 yep, wikivoyage has the same troubles
[02:28:42] <hoo>	 but we have a much higher edit rate etc., so I guess we'll win that one :)
[02:28:54] <ajr>	 hopefully wikivoyage will pull through, with the wikimedia brand on it
[02:29:01] <legoktm>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52688
[02:29:13] <Meiko>	 I wish I had an infinite supply of money where I'd just pay Wikia to redirect lego.wikia.com to Brickimedia. And we all know that Wikia would rather see revenue and income instead of prosperity of their communities. :)
[02:29:31] <Meiko>	 I've also been meaning to contribute to Wikivoyage more.
[02:29:35] <legoktm>	 ajr: illogicopedia moved over to us, and I think we're in the process of getting darthipedia too
[02:29:48] <ajr>	 that's good
[02:29:56] <Meiko>	 Ever since I figured out how to use huggle on enwiki I've barely been active lol
[02:30:08] <ajr>	 too much countervandalism game? :p
[02:30:11] <Meiko>	 and since I got sysop on mediawiki.org I've done basically nothing
[02:30:15] <Meiko>	 ajr: yes lol
[02:30:21] <Meiko>	 huggle got to my head and I went insane
[02:30:25] <ajr>	 but have you achieved the rank of reverter 1st class yet
[02:30:26] <ajr>	 :O
[02:30:40] <ajr>	 brb popcorn
[02:30:48] <Meiko>	 I can't achieve too much or I might become dangerous
[02:30:58] <Meiko>	 I think nobody on enwiki knows who I am
[02:31:09] <Meiko>	 Except for that one guy who gave me a barnstar
[02:31:24] <Meiko>	 that's the only time I've ever gotten a talk page message where someone wasn't mad at me I think
[02:31:43] <hoo>	 legoktm: Will teh wikia folks revert if you blank the pages other there?
[02:32:24] <Meiko>	 hoo: yeah, and they'll globally block you
[02:32:45] <hoo>	 * over
[02:32:49] <hoo>	 heh
[02:32:57] <Meiko>	 I never even vandalised the old brickipedia yet they globally blocked me
[02:33:01] <Meiko>	 wikia hates me
[02:33:33] <ajr>	 fwiw they can't globally block people from uncyc cuz it has a separate user db
[02:33:59] <Meiko>	 dangit I wish I had a wikia uncyc account
[02:34:03] <legoktm>	 hoo: yeah....people who set up forks of wikia projects usually get gbanned
[02:34:08] <Meiko>	 then I could wreak havok on wikia
[02:34:17] <Meiko>	 havoc
[02:34:23] <hoo>	 legoktm: yikes, that's nasty
[02:34:48] <Meiko>	 ajr: do I hold the record for most accounts gbanned?
[02:34:51] <Meiko>	 on wikia
[02:34:52] <legoktm>	 I think Jack Phoenix is still blocked
[02:34:59] <legoktm>	 after all the dev work he did for them
[02:35:24] <Meiko>	 yeah I think he is
[02:35:47] <Meiko>	 and he still maintains basically all of their ported extensions too
[02:35:53] <Meiko>	 at least all of their ported social extensions
[02:35:57] <legoktm>	 mhm
[02:36:03] <hoo>	 hardly any of there source code can be upstream... mostly they are super ugly :P
[02:36:13] <hoo>	 * their
[02:36:25] <hoo>	 *upstreamed
[02:36:28] <hoo>	 ok, bedtime :P
[02:36:29] <legoktm>	 well, Uncyclomedia has more upstream code contributions than Wikia does :P
[02:36:30] <ajr>	 Meiko, not even close, lol
[02:36:37] <Meiko>	 they open sourced all of their stuff but its all so useless
[02:36:40] * legoktm  tucks hoo in

[02:36:48] <Meiko>	 goodnight hoo :3
[02:36:50] * legoktm  rages about https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/114978/

[02:36:55] <ajr>	 'night hoo :)
[02:37:09] <Meiko>	 my irc won't minimize what do
[02:37:13] <Meiko>	 *irc client
[02:37:50] <hoo>	 ;)
[02:38:54] <Meiko>	 I got bored one day so I translated wikia stuff on twn
[02:42:43] <Meiko>	 Why haven't my changes been added to https://github.com/Wikia/app/blob/dev/extensions/wikia/Chat2/Chat.i18n.php ;(
[02:43:06] <Meiko>	 I'll go make a pull request and they'll probably reject it because they hate me and can't assume good faith in me
[06:23:35] <sDrewth>	 does WD have good help pages about #property and #invoke ?
[06:29:20] <legoktm>	 sDrewth: #invoke is Lua, so documentation for that is on mw.o under the name "scribunto". Or are you looking for the wikibase lua documentation?
[06:29:36] <legoktm>	 I'm not sure if #property is actually documented anywhere...
[07:32:49] <sDrewth>	 oh yeah, forgot that legoktm
[07:33:02] <sDrewth>	 knew that it was familiar
[07:33:25] <sDrewth>	 about the only place that I see documentation for #property is at meta
[07:33:40] <legoktm>	 >.<
[07:33:41] <sDrewth>	 which is tres weird for a place to do it
[07:33:50] <legoktm>	 wikidata docs are split between meta, mw.o and wikidata itself right now
[07:34:33] <sDrewth>	 excellent, with bibs and bobs at enWO too
[07:34:39] <sDrewth>	 enWP
[07:36:56] <sDrewth>	 time for WD to reclaim all its pages, and put in redirects, like has happened for mw
[07:38:08] <sDrewth>	 legoktm: latest version that I can locate is https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Notes/Inclusion_syntax
[07:38:48] <legoktm>	 that looks accurate
[07:39:45] <sDrewth>	 jayvdb and legoktm: a bot job that I would like to see is something that applies/splits personal and family names
[07:40:03] <legoktm>	 what do you mean?
[07:40:13] <sDrewth>	 the WSes need that to grap those details
[07:40:26] <sDrewth>	 https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:Robert_Adamson
[07:40:52] <sDrewth>	 {{author
[07:40:52] <sDrewth>	  | firstname    = Robert
[07:40:52] <sDrewth>	  | lastname     = Adamson
[07:40:52] <sDrewth>	  | last_initial = Ad
[07:40:52] <sDrewth>	  | birthyear    = 1852
[07:40:52] <sDrewth>	  | deathyear    = 1902
[07:40:54] <sDrewth>	  | description  = Scottish philosopher; held the chair of logic at the University of Aberdeen. Several of his lectures were published in book form following his death.{{DNB contributor done|R. A.}}{{EB1911 contributor|{{small-caps|R. Ad.}}}}<!--The Times, Tuesday, Feb 11, 1902; pg. 10; Issue 36688; col E
[07:40:58] <sDrewth>	      The Rev. Sir George W. Cox. -->
[07:41:00] <sDrewth>	  | image        = 
[07:41:02] <sDrewth>	  | wikipedia    = Robert Adamson (philosopher)
[07:41:04] <sDrewth>	  | wikiquote    = 
[07:41:06] <sDrewth>	  | commons      = 
[07:41:08] <sDrewth>	  | commonscat   = 
[07:41:10] <sDrewth>	 }}
[07:41:39] <sDrewth>	 so I cannot grab the properties fully until we have both the firstname and lastname parameters available at WD
[07:41:57] <sDrewth>	 and we need those also so we can sort
[07:44:11] <legoktm>	 do we not have those properties yet?
[07:44:19] <sDrewth>	 yes
[07:44:29] <sDrewth>	 best I could do at the moment was ...
[07:44:31] <sDrewth>	 {{author
[07:44:32] <sDrewth>	  | firstname    = 
[07:44:32] <sDrewth>	  | lastname     = 
[07:44:32] <sDrewth>	  | last_initial = 
[07:44:32] <sDrewth>	  | birthyear    = {{#property:p569}}
[07:44:32] <sDrewth>	  | deathyear    = {{#property:p570}}
[07:44:35] <sDrewth>	  | description  = {{#property:p27}} {{#property:p102}} {{#property:occupation}}
[07:44:36] <sDrewth>	  | image        = {{#property:image}}
[07:44:38] <sDrewth>	  | wikipedia    = {{#property:wikipedia}}
[07:44:40] <sDrewth>	  | wikiquote    = 
[07:44:44] <sDrewth>	  | commons      = 
[07:44:47] <sDrewth>	  | commonscat   = 
[07:44:48] <sDrewth>	  | wikidata     = 
[07:44:50] <sDrewth>	 }}
[07:45:44] <sDrewth>	 so legoktm can I call WP, Commons properties?
[07:46:05] <sDrewth>	 I know that baby is wrong
[07:46:21] <legoktm>	 er, what do you mean? if its on wikidata, you can access it
[07:46:51] <sDrewth>	 really? I have no idea how to pull the description layer, nor the name of the article
[07:47:19] <sDrewth>	 nor the interwiki links
[07:48:41] <legoktm>	 oh
[07:48:45] <legoktm>	 you have to use lua for those
[07:57:39] <sDrewth>	 okay, I will just go and talk in Project_chat about these bits then
[07:57:52] <sDrewth>	 food time
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[15:28:03] <multichill>	 Lydia_WMDE: Any plans to fix https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46535 or should I implement a workaround in Pywikibot?
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