[10:00:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10: New Wikidata Build - 21/02/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114717 
[10:00:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] New Wikidata Build - 21/02/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114717 
[10:09:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [C: 032 V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114717 
[10:09:48] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] New Wikidata Build - 21/02/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114717 
[10:11:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Abandoned) 10Addshore: New Wikidata Build - 21/02/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114717 
[10:24:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10: New Wikidata Build - 21/02/2014 10:23 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114721 
[10:25:38] <github-wmde>	 [13puppet-builder] 15addshore pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/3rGGAw
[10:25:38] <github-wmde>	 13puppet-builder/06master 14d7e3727 15addshore: add second git reset --hard origin/master for wdbuilder also
[10:33:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [C: 032 V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114721 
[10:36:17] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: New Wikidata Build - 21/02/2014 10:23 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114721 
[10:43:39] <github-wmde>	 [13puppet-builder] 15addshore pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/10Sgzw
[10:43:39] <github-wmde>	 13puppet-builder/06master 146049e4a 15addshore: README + Troubleshooting puppet fail
[11:39:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS19) 10Aude: Store EntityView js config in parser output [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/89792 
[11:39:24] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Store EntityView js config in parser output [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/89792 (owner: 10Aude)
[11:42:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Browsertests for new build on beta were successful" [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114721 
[11:46:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/89792 (owner: 10Aude)
[12:53:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS20) 10Aude: Store EntityView js config in parser output [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/89792 
[13:00:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/89792 (owner: 10Aude)
[13:09:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Correct usage of getLocalURL [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114741 
[13:15:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Set the firefox chrome timeout, too [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114711 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[13:15:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] Set the firefox chrome timeout, too [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114711 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[13:16:18] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Set the firefox chrome timeout, too [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114711 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[13:17:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114741 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[13:18:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: "Please put (WIP) or (DNM) in the header of the commit message if the change is "work in progress" or "do not merge". It could be overseen " [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114486 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[13:22:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114711 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[13:23:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 04-1] Anchor id for the table of comments was missing (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114510 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[13:32:43] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Tobias Gritschacher: WIP moved BROWSER_TIMEOUT implementation to the gem [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114454 (owner: 10Zfilipin)
[13:39:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114454 (owner: 10Zfilipin)
[14:09:05] <Tpt_>	 Lydia_WMDE: Hi! May I have your input on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Tpt/Interproject 
[14:09:24] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Tpt_: hey :)  sure - looking now
[14:09:30] <Tpt_>	 Thanks :-)
[14:09:57] <Tpt_>	 I'm also volunteer to implement if it looks good for you.
[14:10:45] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Tpt_: if i understand you right this is basically https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54374 ?
[14:10:55] <Tpt_>	 yes
[14:11:01] <Lydia_WMDE>	 ok
[14:11:04] <Lydia_WMDE>	 so here is the thing:
[14:11:12] <Lydia_WMDE>	 * i want this
[14:11:29] <Lydia_WMDE>	 * daniel had to add some hacks to make the other sister projects _not_ show up
[14:11:51] <Lydia_WMDE>	 * i am not sure which project would like to see which other projects listed
[14:11:57] <Lydia_WMDE>	 and if we can get consensus for that
[14:12:04] <aude>	 wikivoyage for one
[14:12:07] * aude  thinks

[14:12:43] <Tpt_>	 I believe that an opt-in system should be better.
[14:12:51] <aude>	 https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haarlem
[14:12:52] <aude>	 e.g.
[14:12:53] <hoo>	 Yep, doing it opt-in should be fine
[14:12:54] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Tpt_: yes i fear so too
[14:13:00] <Lydia_WMDE>	 i hate that but...
[14:13:10] <Tpt_>	 With links label editable using MediaWiki: namespace.
[14:14:35] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Tpt_: does that answer your questions? :)
[14:14:50] <Tpt_>	 yes :-)
[14:14:54] <Lydia_WMDE>	 cool
[14:14:56] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Tpt_: great job at the (de)serialization code so far! :)
[14:15:32] <Tpt_>	 JeroenDeDauw: It's the missing piece for my WikibaseApi library rewrite
[14:15:57] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Tpt_: can yo link this library?
[14:16:15] <Tpt_>	 It's https://github.com/Tpt/wikibase-api-php
[14:16:39] <Tpt_>	 I've begun to rewrite it locally using Guzzle
[14:16:44] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Tpt_: do you know addshore is working on something similar?
[14:16:47] <Tpt_>	 with dozens of unit tests.
[14:16:54] <addshore>	 HAHAHA
[14:16:57] <JeroenDeDauw>	 haha, guzzle
[14:17:00] <addshore>	 guzzle :P
[14:17:01] <Tpt_>	 JezoenDeDauw: no
[14:17:25] <JeroenDeDauw>	 addshore: Tpt_ you probably want to talk to each other I guess
[14:17:37] <addshore>	 Tpt_: https://github.com/addshore/guzzle-mediawiki-client
[14:17:42] <Tpt_>	 yes :-)
[14:17:50] <Tpt_>	 addshore: Thanks :-)
[14:18:44] <aude>	 Thiemo_WMDE: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgShowExceptionDetails
[14:18:54] <aude>	 and other useful settings https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug
[14:21:11] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Thiemo_WMDE: you can steal from https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Jeroen_De_Dauw/LocalSettings.php as well
[14:21:26] <JeroenDeDauw>	 addshore: bow before my mighty debug functions at the bottom https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Jeroen_De_Dauw/LocalSettings.php
[14:21:28] <Tpt_>	 addshore: I have begun to do something at an higher level for Wikibase API. You do EntityProvider->getEntityFromId( 'Q12' ) to get a Wikibase/DataModel/Entity object, you edit it and with a EntitySaver->save( $entity ) to edit your repo.
[14:21:56] <addshore>	 Tpt_: also see https://github.com/addwiki for my higher level stuff
[14:22:20] <addshore>	 havnt actually got around to wikibase interaction yet, was planning on doing it once the ExternalSerialization stuff was ready ;p
[14:23:00] <JeroenDeDauw>	  ExternalSerialization?
[14:23:07] <addshore>	 so currently I have stuff for mediawiki like PageRepo->getPageFromId( 1234 ).... new Edit( page ) ->settext( asdas )..... EditSaver->save( edit )
[14:23:25] <addshore>	 I have a feeling we are working along very similar lines
[14:23:29] <JeroenDeDauw>	 addshore: protip: add a one line description that details the responsibility of each component to its repo
[14:23:42] <addshore>	 JeroenDeDauw: will do :P
[14:23:51] <Tpt_>	 So I think we should work together.
[14:23:55] <addshore>	 focusing on the dump stuff currently
[14:24:31] <Tpt_>	 I've already code most of the logic needed for Wikibase. The only remaining piece is the (de)serialization.
[14:25:05] <addshore>	 hehe :P
[14:25:31] <addshore>	 thats quite wonderfull as my implementation fo the wikibase stuff was going to be quite seperate to all of the mediawiki stuff anyway!
[14:26:54] <github-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModelSerialization] 15JeroenDeDauw closed pull request #26: Adds beginning of EntityDeserializer (06master...06EntityDeserializer) 02http://git.io/yS-B9A
[14:27:32] <Tpt_>	 addshore: I believe I will rely on your addwiki/mediawiki-api module
[14:28:14] <addshore>	 still needs a bit of work, not much of this is unit tested yet as Im focusing on the dump module
[14:28:21] <addshore>	 just a basic implementation
[14:29:39] <Tpt_>	 addshore: Ok. So, I think I'll keep my dumb implementation of MediaWiki/Api and then move on yours when it'll be finished.
[14:30:05] <Tpt_>	 It may be nice to created a shared gitHub org for all "stable" modules done for external use.
[14:30:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 032 V: 032] Correct usage of getLocalURL [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114741 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[14:30:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Correct usage of getLocalURL [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114741 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[14:30:23] <Tpt_>	 JeroenDeDauw: Thanks :-) 
[14:30:54] <Tpt_>	 I'll try to implement the remaining things for EntityDeserialization this evening or tomorrow.
[14:31:25] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Tpt_: addshore: i'm happy to give you space for that in the github wikidata organisation
[14:31:31] <addshore>	 Tpt_: thats why I created addwiki away from my actual user stuff :)
[14:31:53] <Lydia_WMDE>	 i think it would be very benefitial to collect most wikidata stuff in this org
[14:32:02] <Lydia_WMDE>	 the wikidata toolkit by markus is there
[14:32:06] <Tpt_>	 Lydia_WMDE: Thanks a lot :-)
[14:32:13] <Lydia_WMDE>	 the students' work on the entity suggester as well
[14:32:35] <addshore>	 I currently have 5 repos which arent wikidata stuff though ;p
[14:37:03] <Tpt_>	 Sorry, I have to leave.
[14:44:35] <wm-bot3>	 Change on 12mediawiki a page Extension:Wikibase Client was modified, changed by Thiemo Mättig (WMDE) link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=911816 edit summary: [WMDE] The current Wikibase master requires at least 1.23 for some time now
[14:51:56] <hoo>	 dennyvrandecic: ping
[14:53:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Anchor id in the claims section used by the TOC was missing [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114510 
[14:55:08] * JeroenDeDauw  launches a tennis ball at SF using a WMDE ICMB

[14:55:13] <JeroenDeDauw>	 *ICBM
[14:57:36] <JohnLewis>	 JeroenDeDauw: Did they finally let you build one? :D
[15:00:00] <JeroenDeDauw>	 JohnLewis: we got a big office now, so I can do it in secret without anyone noticing
[15:00:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114510 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[15:00:46] <hoo>	 and I already thought that missile launcher looked suspicious...
[15:04:52] <JohnLewis>	 JeroenDeDauw: So, if I ever come to the office and see a giant bolted room up; I know it is your ICBM? :p
[15:14:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] Anchor id in the claims section used by the TOC was missing [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114510 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[15:15:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Anchor id in the claims section used by the TOC was missing [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114510 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[15:19:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Adrian Lang: Correctly format commons links with spaces [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114746 
[15:21:43] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: "I don't think it is a good idea to return such things as the watch-status in the API response as it is not the responsibility of these API" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/112464 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[15:26:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114746 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[15:31:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] Update watchlist link/star when doing Wikibase edits [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/112464 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[15:31:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update watchlist link/star when doing Wikibase edits [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/112464 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[15:39:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Aude: control for wgArticlePath setting in WikibaseValueFormatterBuildersTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114747 
[15:42:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Adrian Lang: Correctly format commons links with spaces [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114746 
[15:47:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114747 (owner: 10Aude)
[15:51:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Correctly construct edit-links to SpecialPages in EntityView [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114751 
[15:54:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114746 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[15:59:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114751 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[16:35:17] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Correctly construct edit-links to SpecialPages in EntityView [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114751 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[16:36:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Correctly construct edit-links to SpecialPages in EntityView (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114751 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[16:40:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS9) 10Hoo man: New Lua interface for creating infoboxes [extensions/Capiunto] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/105157 
[16:41:09] <hoo>	 m( things != this
[16:41:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS10) 10Hoo man: New Lua interface for creating infoboxes [extensions/Capiunto] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/105157 
[16:42:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114751 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[16:43:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hoo man: "Re-add a workaround in the output integration tests for Scribunto_LuaEngineTestBase" [extensions/Capiunto] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/105157 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[16:45:15] <hoo>	 I wonder who will review that :P
[16:45:40] <benestar>	 hoo: hi :)
[16:45:47] <benestar>	 nice to meet you :D
[16:45:49] <hoo>	 hi benestar :)
[16:46:12] <benestar>	 hoo: I get an ssl_error_bad_cert_domain error when visiting travis-ci.org
[16:46:29] <benestar>	 FF does not allow me to enter the website :(
[16:46:37] <hoo>	 worksforme in Firefox
[16:46:38] <aude>	 got error yesterday
[16:46:53] <aude>	 seems back now
[16:47:11] <benestar>	 aude: not for me :(
[16:47:15] <aude>	 hmmm
[16:47:33] <benestar>	 my FF says the certificate is for the domain www.wigup.tv
[16:47:36] <benestar>	 wtf ^^
[16:47:43] <aude>	 huh
[16:47:58] <benestar>	 ah, purging did the trick
[16:48:04] <benestar>	 maybe they got hacked?
[16:48:17] <hoo>	 doubt that
[16:48:18] <aude>	 no idea
[16:48:25] <aude>	 they were down yesterday, though
[16:48:36] <hoo>	 yikes... https://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds
[16:48:42] <hoo>	 anyone working on that?
[16:49:06] <aude>	 not currently
[16:49:37] <aude>	 it worked when sqlentityinfobuilder was in lib
[16:49:57] <aude>	 some reason there is an issue with having it in repo?
[16:50:09] <hoo>	 mh....  sounds like an execution order thingy
[16:50:12] <aude>	 right
[16:55:00] <dennyvrandecic>	 hoo: pong
[16:56:13] <hoo>	 dennyvrandecic: You might be interested in commenting on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#please_comment
[16:58:58] <dennyvrandecic>	 hoo: reading. is it also checked if the entity is used anywhere?
[16:59:52] <hoo>	 dennyvrandecic: I used to check the following: Entity not used anywhere (not linked from any page) AND entity has no sitelinks AND entity has no statements AND edits less than 3 or 4 (to not catch vandalized items or so)
[17:00:12] <hoo>	 * has less than 3 or 4 edits
[17:00:23] <dennyvrandecic>	 sounds fine. And you got complaints?
[17:01:01] <JeroenDeDauw>	 A dennyvrandecic appeared
[17:01:10] <dennyvrandecic>	 :)
[17:01:33] <JeroenDeDauw>	 dennyvrandecic: our office is well on its way to beating yours!
[17:01:54] <hoo>	 dennyvrandecic: Sadly yes... people were referring to WD:N #2
[17:02:12] <hoo>	 I didn't get an example where I actually deleted something useful, but well ...
[17:02:52] <dennyvrandecic>	 hoo: well, it is trivial to make an entity safe
[17:02:57] <dennyvrandecic>	 just give it a single statement
[17:03:11] <dennyvrandecic>	 if you cannot give it a statement, I don't see much harm done in deleting it
[17:03:15] <hoo>	 +1
[17:03:26] <dennyvrandecic>	 a supersafe condition could be "has label in more than 1 language"
[17:03:31] <Tobi_WMDE>	 dennyvrandecic: it can also be used in a statement of another item
[17:03:34] <dennyvrandecic>	 (additionally)
[17:03:40] <dennyvrandecic>	 no, this is already checked
[17:03:42] <Tobi_WMDE>	 without having a statement itself
[17:03:47] <dennyvrandecic>	 if it does, it is safe
[17:03:50] <JohnFLewis>	 JeroenDeDauw: Well; I doubt Google have a ICBM :p
[17:03:51] <dennyvrandecic>	 yes, true
[17:03:51] <dennyvrandecic>	 agreed
[17:03:55] <hoo>	 dennyvrandecic: Nah, bots added so many labels more or less at random... this applies to most of the old cruft items
[17:04:26] <dennyvrandecic>	 nah, i don't see the point of saving those
[17:04:29] <hoo>	 Many of them are merge leftovers, or left overs from deletions (partly blanked by my bot or my widget in Wikibase)
[17:04:46] <dennyvrandecic>	 I will weigh in on project chat
[17:04:51] <dennyvrandecic>	 and say as much
[17:04:54] <hoo>	 Neither do I... but that WD:N #2 completely kills the whole purpose of a WD:N
[17:05:19] <dennyvrandecic>	 JeroenDeDauw: what's new in the office? :)
[17:05:36] <JohnFLewis>	 dennyvrandecic: Jeroen made an ICBM :p
[17:05:37] <dennyvrandecic>	 hoo: as it is formulated I might make an entity for myself, and it would be ok
[17:05:57] <dennyvrandecic>	 is making an ICBM legal?
[17:06:06] <dennyvrandecic>	 would JeroenDeDauw care?
[17:06:22] <JohnFLewis>	 Doubt he would.
[17:06:55] <JohnFLewis>	 And I don't know German law on ICBMs
[17:06:56] <hoo>	 dennyvrandecic: If I wanted, I could probably create a billion items meeting WD:N #2 ... random streets, houses, ...
[17:07:55] <hoo>	 I just don't really like that one... an item having actual data is useful, but empty label-only items...
[17:08:06] <dennyvrandecic>	 hoo: agreed
[17:08:24] <JohnFLewis>	 #2 has always been flawed IMHO
[17:10:40] <dennyvrandecic>	 it could be amended with "and is actually taking part in a statement"
[17:11:15] <JohnFLewis>	 dennyvrandecic: Or we could just remove it as #3 covers thay.
[17:11:44] <hoo>	 We really should reevaluate that one, yes
[17:11:53] <dennyvrandecic>	 JohnFLewis: there should be still something about notifiability
[17:12:22] <dennyvrandecic>	 #3 alone would allow you to create an item about yourself and add a statement "is a human", and then it would be save
[17:12:43] <dennyvrandecic>	 this should still be discouraged, so #2 makes sense, but is not strong enough
[17:14:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS7) 10Henning Snater: Toolbar edit group widget optimization [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/101198 
[17:14:53] <JohnFLewis>	 dennyvrandecic: Nope
[17:15:17] <JohnFLewis>	 For 3, you need to be statement end in another item.
[17:16:25] <dennyvrandecic>	 JohnFLewis: that's an example
[17:16:31] <hoo>	 dennyvrandecic: Let's hope we got some positive comments on taht... if so, I'm happy to delete the next load of cruft :)
[17:16:36] <dennyvrandecic>	 :)
[17:16:38] <dennyvrandecic>	 aye
[17:19:32] <hoo>	 The use of the Babel extension for entity view localization has the nice side effect that most users have complete babel boxes on their user pages :)
[17:20:07] <dennyvrandecic>	 hoo: intentional :)
[17:20:58] <hoo>	 heh :)
[17:21:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/101198 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[17:24:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 04-1] Correctly format commons links with spaces (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114746 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[17:40:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 04-1] "Needs to be removed from the documentation in /docs/options.wiki as well." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/112479 (owner: 10Addshore)
[17:40:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS8) 10Henning Snater: Toolbar edit group widget optimization [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/101198 
[17:42:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 04-1] "Comments should be addressed.." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/108038 (owner: 10Addshore)
[17:44:44] <benestar>	 DanielK_WMDE_: hi, got a questino
[17:44:54] <benestar>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/111159/ <-- where may I put unit tests there?
[17:45:52] <hoo>	 benestar: For the hook?
[17:46:04] <benestar>	 hoo: no, for the itemtitle
[17:46:21] <benestar>	 well. the hook might also need unit tests but it is already merged
[17:47:00] <hoo>	 $IP/tests/phpunit/includes/SkinTemplate.php I guess
[17:47:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/101198 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[17:48:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 04-1] "Please also add a DNM in the header of the commit msg as long as this should not be merged." (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114466 (owner: 10Addshore)
[17:53:20] <benestar>	 hoo: that file does not exist...
[17:54:27] <hoo>	 Create it then... MediaWiki core's test coverage is rather low
[17:54:46] <benestar>	 hoo: create a new file for this single feature o_O
[17:54:55] <benestar>	 I think I'd have to create a lot of tests then...
[17:55:15] <addshore>	 just create the tests for what you add / change :)
[17:55:29] <hoo>	 Feel free to create as many unit tests as you like, but that commit should only hold tests for the changes introduced by it
[17:55:40] <hoo>	 other tests -> other commits
[17:57:34] <benestar>	 hoo: the method is actually in another class
[17:58:03] <benestar>	 that's weird
[17:58:11] <benestar>	 I cannot do this atm
[17:58:19] <benestar>	 DanielK_WMDE_: has to test it by hand...
[18:00:58] <hawke1>	 The wikidata “tempo-spatial display” (http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/tempo_spatial_display.html ) only follows “part of”, doesn’t it — no way to change the property?
[18:04:29] <benestar>	 aude: ping me if you have time today
[18:04:45] <benestar>	 you wanted to help me with the integration of some code into core
[18:17:22] <benestar>	 hmm
[18:17:41] <benestar>	 why do the language links have a different order in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google and https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Inc. ?
[19:34:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS13) 10Bene: [DNM] Insert badges for language links on client [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/111609 
[19:42:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/111609 (owner: 10Bene)
[19:49:19] <JeroenDeDauw>	 addshore: you remember this order button on the lieferando site?
[19:49:25] <addshore>	 ...
[19:49:36] <JeroenDeDauw>	 addshore: I clicked it this time!
[19:49:38] <addshore>	 did you forget to push it? :P
[19:49:40] <addshore>	 xD
[19:49:44] <JeroenDeDauw>	 trolol
[19:49:47] <addshore>	 i sort of dont believe you :P
[19:50:05] <JeroenDeDauw>	 addshore: then I demand you sort of don't believe the food is there once it arrived
[20:29:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS14) 10Bene: Insert badges for language links on client [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/111609 
[20:36:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/111609 (owner: 10Bene)
[20:36:27] <benestar>	 :)
[20:37:38] <lazowik>	 hey benestar
[20:37:51] <lazowik>	 how are the badges?
[20:37:59] <benestar>	 lazowik: so far quite well
[20:38:09] <benestar>	 two patches waiting for review
[20:38:18] <lazowik>	 nice
[20:38:21] <benestar>	 anyhow, the ui is still missing on repo :/
[20:38:33] <benestar>	 nobody is currently involved in this I fear
[21:06:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jhall: [C: 031] WIP moved BROWSER_TIMEOUT implementation to the gem [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114454 (owner: 10Zfilipin)
[21:08:08] <benestar>	 hoo: hey, do you know why travis fails for my project? :P
[21:08:24] <benestar>	 the qunit tests run in my browser but they fail on travis
[21:08:41] <hoo>	 Haven't looked at the qunits for like 2 weeks or so
[21:08:45] <hoo>	 what's the error?
[21:09:20] <benestar>	 hoo: it is for my own project
[21:09:28] <hoo>	 oh
[21:09:33] <benestar>	 I am just trying to set up travis on my own ;)
[21:09:47] <benestar>	 hoo: see here: https://travis-ci.org/Benestar/ask-wikidata/builds/19362062
[21:09:48] <hoo>	 Do you use a browser locally or also phantomjs
[21:10:32] <benestar>	 hoo: I use a browser locally
[21:10:49] <benestar>	 and grunt for travis
[21:11:32] <hoo>	 mh
[22:44:08] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseQuery#104 (master - ee4a7b0 : Translation updater bot): The build has errored.
[22:44:08] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseQuery/compare/bb4af8ee3953...ee4a7b09a0a7
[22:44:08] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseQuery/builds/19368124
[22:54:26] * hoo  rages

[22:54:35] <Vogone>	 ok
[22:55:29] <hoo>	 seriously, argghg
[22:56:22] <Vogone>	 hoo: kannste bitte mal https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download/fa fixen? (die Seite ist ja leer bis auf dieses "/wikitroll" was so ne IP hinzugefügt hat)
[22:56:38] <Vogone>	 * "wikitroll/"
[22:57:49] <Vogone>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Download/fa&action=history macht's evtl deutlicher
[22:58:52] <hoo>	 ok
[23:00:54] <hoo>	 Vogone: Erledigt
[23:01:23] <Vogone>	 danke :)
[23:05:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Fix unit test groups for two classes recently moved from lib to repo [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114893 
[23:05:20] <hoo>	 anyone around for a quick merge?
[23:05:21] <hoo>	 ^
[23:05:48] <hoo>	 JeroenDeDauw: ^
[23:11:50] <legoktm>	 yes hello
[23:12:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114893 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[23:12:16] <hoo>	 legoktm: want to do a very trivail merge https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114893 ? :P
[23:12:20] <legoktm>	 sure 
[23:12:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Legoktm: [C: 032] "Looks sane." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114893 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[23:12:41] <hoo>	 :)
[23:12:48] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix unit test groups for two classes recently moved from lib to repo [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/114893 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[23:17:48] <github-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15mariushoch created 06testGroups (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/IoiT7g
[23:17:48] <github-wmde>	 13WikibaseDataModel/06testGroups 144e525f8 15Marius Hoch: Change test groups from WikibaseLib to WikibaseDataModel
[23:18:18] <github-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15mariushoch opened pull request #11: Change test groups from WikibaseLib to WikibaseDataModel (06master...06testGroups) 02http://git.io/zIZc7w
[23:19:16] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseDataModel#57 (testGroups - 4e525f8 : Marius Hoch): The build passed.
[23:19:16] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/commit/4e525f8d2575
[23:19:16] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/builds/19370042
[23:19:40] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/d6fd369 : Marius Hoch The build is still failing. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/19369782