[08:53:48] JeroenDeDauw: Thanks for your review, I've just added the missing @author tag [08:57:44] JeroenDeDauw: And sorry for the deletion of your author tags :-( [10:58:07] aude: ping, you working today? [11:14:17] [travis-ci] wmde/DataTypes#9 (0.1.1 - 0206312 : jeroendedauw): The build passed. [11:14:17] [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/wmde/DataTypes/commit/0206312463f3 [11:14:17] [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wmde/DataTypes/builds/15881789 [11:16:34] [travis-ci] wmde/DataValuesJavascript#19 (master - a9846dd : jeroendedauw): The build was broken. [11:16:34] [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/wmde/DataValuesJavascript/compare/afcfcac9b978...a9846dda52f5 [11:16:34] [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wmde/DataValuesJavascript/builds/15881887 [11:46:43] [travis-ci] wmde/Wikibase#33 (newcomponents - d3167cb : jeroendedauw): The build is still failing. 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[13:06:35] benestar: hey [13:06:36] i am [13:06:50] and Daniel ? [13:06:56] also [13:06:58] wasup? [13:09:10] Lydia_WMDE: I would like to discuss the redirect thing further [13:09:30] because I think this would make the admin's work and also lots of other things much better [13:09:37] yeah definitely [13:09:57] what is the current status? what is still left to discuss? [13:10:04] did you two come to a conclusion which way to go? [13:11:47] Lydia_WMDE: we almost decided to use option #2 as mentioned at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Development/Entity_redirect_after_merge [13:12:15] ok give me 5 mins to read that please [13:16:10] benestar: 2 seems most sensible to me too right now. how about you send an email to wikidata-tech saying unless there are objections in the next 24h you will move forward with this? [13:16:49] Lydia_WMDE: not sure if Daniel will read the mail [13:17:28] he was leaning towards 2 too though, right? [13:17:33] so i think this is fine [13:18:29] ok :) [13:18:35] \o/ [13:18:54] I think this will be really great to have asap [13:22:55] absolutely [13:23:03] will make admins happy :) [13:23:06] and daniel too :P [13:28:00] Lydia_WMDE: sorry, lost connection, did you write anything? [13:28:09] [14:22:54] absolutely [13:28:09] [14:23:03] will make admins happy :) [13:28:09] [14:23:06] and daniel too :P [13:29:46] ah, ok thanks :) [13:33:55] Lydia_WMDE: what about a christmas tree wikidata logo? [13:37:27] . [13:39:40] Are there historical data timeseries in wikidata? If yes, how can i search for them? [14:26:45] Hi all…anyone else getting 403 errors on http://tools.wmflabs.org/ ? [14:30:28] hawke_: think i saw a mail about it [14:30:46] so, yes it's broken (for me also) [14:31:06] OK, glad it’s not just me. I was afraid i was overusing it and blocked. :-D [14:31:40] hope someone that can fix it can do so soon [14:32:12] 14:28 < Coren> I'm on it. [14:32:31] kk [14:38:07] ugh, sometimes things don’t seem to fit well into the data model: does a wikidata entry for a place refer to the human settlement that’s there, or the government entity? or both? :-/ [14:57:14] (and if both, then should one just not use 'start date'?) [17:49:41] aude: any idea why https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q812066&diff=68891145&oldid=68891141 would have happened? [17:50:02] (I assume audebot is related to you) [17:50:39] * aude looks [17:50:58] need to get back to working on the bot [17:52:11] it must be close to the border... [17:52:45] It is. Is it based on the coordinates? [17:52:52] aude: It is [17:53:38] yes, i must have geocoded wrong [17:54:39] Or the coordinates are wrong, or the border definition is inaccurate…who knows. Anyway, fixed — just curious where that would have come from. :-) [17:54:41] it's something to check for what's imported already before my bot does new stuff [17:55:36] border definition... the coordinates shoudl be fine [17:56:04] Does it use the one from openstreetmap, or…? [17:56:36] i was using natural earth. i think osm would be better or just try scraping the infobox [17:56:58] osm is pretty good [17:57:16] Yeah. [17:57:38] aude: got a few minutes? :P [17:57:49] hoo: sure [17:58:42] I've poked a little at the linkItem widget during the weekend (regarding commons)... I would really like to see it there, but (as already told) it's a little hard to configure properly [17:59:28] * aude nods [17:59:31] Could we activate it (using an inline function or so) for Category and NS0 pages only [18:01:03] maybe [18:01:15] aude: We probably should put NS_FILE into excludeNamespaces anyway? [18:01:37] only this week I deleted almost 150 file only items from Wikidata... [18:02:00] agree [18:02:56] "To be valid, a link must not be a talk page; MediaWiki page; special page; user page; file; translations page; or subpage of a template, portal, or module." [18:05:07] aude: Despite of that... do you think we can shoot that to commons or do you see any further blockers? [18:05:36] right now, we exclude talk pages and mediawiki ns + user ns [18:05:44] yep [18:05:49] we can add file and other stuff [18:06:05] aude: NS_SPECIAL ? [18:06:17] :) [18:06:26] the widget isn't even showing on NS special yet anyway... I wonder why [18:06:31] * aude not configuring special [18:06:49] if people want items for recent changes, etc.... not for me to decide [18:06:51] mh...maybe the widget tests for wgIsArticle or so :P [18:07:08] sure, but we got the guidelines at our hands to do the configuration [18:07:16] or it needs a bug report [18:07:17] if they change the rules, we change the config. [18:07:36] [18:07:44] mh? [18:07:46] errr, bug report with link to guidelines [18:07:56] aude: k [18:08:10] in case anyone complains [18:08:27] Shall I do a single bug/change for excluding NS_FILE and enabling the widget on comons? [18:08:32] Kind of blocks each other [18:08:33] ok [18:08:54] :) Already have the patch, will upload it then also [18:09:02] yay! [18:10:21] aude: product Wikimedia->Wikidata is only for WD.org? [18:10:35] Site requests, I need then... probably [18:20:12] site requests is fine [18:23:06] aude: *prepare a pillow for your desk* [18:23:21] The InfoHook handler tests only fail in debug mode [18:23:27] and I have hardly an idea why [18:23:44] wanted to tell you taht yesterday, but forgot [18:25:06] which debug mode? [18:25:14] aude: phpunit --debug [18:25:21] oh [18:25:34] I think it's because debug mode prints the arrays passed as input and that converts them in some way [18:25:55] ok [18:25:59] if we pass in the expected array with Message::text() instead of using the message objects, it passes [18:26:10] not a perfect solution, though [18:26:19] i think i might have idea [18:31:24] nevermind... the hook accepts message objects and then escapes them [18:32:01] aude: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/103391 that's the fix... but I don't really like it [18:32:25] then it should be escaped [18:32:32] to be consistent [18:33:03] aude: You mean the hook should return strings either? [18:33:05] $name = ( $infoRow[0] instanceof Message ) ? $infoRow[0]->escaped() : $infoRow[0]; [18:33:15] that's what happens with each bit [18:33:41] if it's a message, then InfoAction handles it and escapes [18:33:52] but also accepts strings [18:34:05] (03CR) 10Jhall: [C: 031] Use snake_case for methods and variables [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/100209 (owner: 10Aaron1011) [18:34:07] aude: The hook handler... should it also use the strings, then? [18:34:24] either [18:34:31] (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Fix InfoActionHookHandlerTest for phpunit debug mode [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/103391 [18:34:39] strings are fine [18:34:41] grrrit-wm is *so* slow [18:34:50] that thing is minutes old :P [18:35:27] or having the tests do what you did can work [18:36:24] aude: Only doing in the tests works either... I don't know what exactly php(unit) is doing when comparing, but some conversion is cerntainly happening [18:42:23] aude: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58903 (patch is linked there) [18:42:50] ok [18:43:30] do we need to advertise that in some way (post somewhere?) [18:44:52] would be good [18:44:59] most people don't see bugzilla [18:45:38] aude: Wikidata project chat? [18:46:45] (03CR) 10Aude: "see comment, and not sure this is so bad as you say :) especially if it works better in debug mode" (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/103391 (owner: 10Hoo man) [18:47:00] project chat, yes [18:48:13] we're still getting tests exiting sometimes https://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/jobs/15827598 [18:48:28] hoo: How about including the Translations namespace with that if possible? [18:48:38] JohnLewis: mh, will have a look [18:49:07] last time I touched the translation extension was 1999 (a long time ago) :P [18:49:12] hah [18:49:46] Last thing I did with it was probably removing something from translation :p [18:50:07] I fixed some filtering code or so... dunno [18:50:09] Schleim :D [18:50:42] $wgPageTranslationNamespace = 1198; [18:51:33] seems like no wiki is altering that [18:52:23] they also define a global in a set function, but I doubt we can use that [18:57:20] JohnLewis: Done :) [18:58:09] Lovely :) [18:58:37] Now, Get back to work on AbuseFilter v2, HooFilter ;) (Or start it/find time to start it/something) [18:58:40] JohnLewis: Want to spread the word https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58903 ? ;) [18:58:55] JohnLewis: Maybe in a minute :P [18:59:05] :D [18:59:47] I'd love to see in Special:Version 'HooFilter' Simply because the description can go 'HooFilter? YourFilter!' :p [19:02:43] (03PS2) 10Hoo man: Fix InfoActionHookHandlerTest for phpunit debug mode [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/103391 [19:03:49] aude: ^ :) If you merge that, I might have more look with my: [19:03:50] ret=0; while [ $ret == 0 ]; do php phpunit.php --debug --group Wikibase; ret=$?; done [19:04:10] hi addshore Lydia_WMDE , is anybody looking at the GCI patch https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/102495/ [19:04:28] the student is having problems with Jenkins, but he claims the tests run in his local machine [19:04:51] I don't see any feedback frok anybody in the Gerrit change or the GCi task, and this is why I'm here asking. :) [19:05:15] qgil: bene is in touch with us yes - maybe JeroenDeDauw could have a look though now [19:05:26] ah ok, good to know [19:06:30] then please comment at http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2013/5123120071442432 and extend the deadline there, so we useless org admins can at least see that this is being taken care of. :) Thank you! [19:07:17] Lydia_WMDE, addshore , bene seems to be trying hard. I hope you have an easy one for him after this one is over :) [19:07:28] ;-) yeah [19:07:32] he is very good [19:10:22] Lydia_WMDE, I just left a pragmatic proposal at http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2013/5123120071442432 [19:11:41] qgil: will talk to bene when he is here again [19:13:08] good, thank you, und fr�hliche "Wein-nachten" usw :) Lydia_WMDE [19:13:18] ;-) [19:13:21] same to you [19:13:24] (03PS6) 10Aude: Remove hardcoded ids from SetClaimTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/102919 [19:13:32] qgil: Weihnachten, it is :) ... Same to you ;) [19:14:03] hoo, I know well, can't I have a bit of humor at the expense of German language? ;) [19:14:35] qgil: The German language is perfect (and extremely simple... we all know that) :D [19:15:56] It all went well until that evening when someone proposed to expand Nominativ with Akkusativ, opening the Pandora's box... [19:16:05] anyway, back to work :) [19:16:34] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Remove hardcoded ids from SetClaimTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/102919 (owner: 10Aude) [19:17:33] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Fix InfoActionHookHandlerTest for phpunit debug mode [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/103391 (owner: 10Hoo man) [19:17:39] gah [19:17:43] Lydia_WMDE: what are the plans for badges UI? [19:17:49] * aude works more on set claim [19:18:24] lazowik: probably going to be done by a new guy joining in january as part of his on-boarding [19:18:26] aude: I also still have a change in gerrit that kills hard coded ids somewhere... wnat to have a look? [19:18:31] cool [19:18:43] hoo: yep [19:18:53] aude: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/102863 :) [19:23:00] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix InfoActionHookHandlerTest for phpunit debug mode [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/103391 (owner: 10Hoo man) [19:24:26] wow, someone's been adding adjacent nyc subway and long island railroad stations :) [19:25:08] aude: I doubt it has any influence but it was mentioned in the last two summary about the task force :p [19:25:31] oh, ok [19:25:48] still more to add [19:25:54] I doubt anyone actually reads 'Open tasks for you' anymore :/ [19:26:05] :/ [19:26:26] Lydia_WMDE ^ Possibly time to overhaul/redo the section? [19:27:08] JohnLewis: i guess so, yes [19:27:54] anyway, seems i have unlimited internet now :) [19:28:03] can look at denny's map [19:28:08] Lydia_WMDE: Want to spread the word about https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58903 ? It's not very controversial, but it would be nice to have the community take a look [19:29:15] hoo: want to add it to the next weekly summary? [19:32:19] Lydia_WMDE: As already done? Or as "we want to"? [19:32:36] hoo: as in "feel free to add it" ;-) [19:32:51] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Status_updates/Next [19:35:13] mh... I have no idea when that change will be deployed... aude might have a better idea [19:35:26] Reedy is probably nto going to deploy this week [19:36:01] Lydia_WMDE: Just changed the Open tasks section. Take a quick look and feel free to modify it :p [19:36:33] hoo: Just put it there in the 'Monthly task' line. If it is done before I publish it, I'll remove it/find something new. [19:36:55] JohnLewis: looks good :) [19:37:01] Lydia_WMDE: Should we replace the 'hack of one these' part with a random task in that list? Make things perhaps mroe specific? [19:37:04] JohnLewis: it's more an announcement than a task [19:37:28] Indeed, we just implement already set rules with that change [19:37:32] True. :p hoo; Put it under noteworthy stuff :p [19:37:35] JohnLewis: not a bad idea - I'd still like to keep a link to the whole list though. we can add one example task of course [19:38:51] Lydia_WMDE: If no monthly task exists, I'll throw a 'hack one of these' in there randomly? Seems fair. [19:39:00] hoo: either next week (maybe) or after when we deploy to test.wikidata [19:39:19] aude: Ok... can you have an eye on that? ;) [19:39:26] JohnLewis: k [19:39:34] aude: The person would be a rather hungover me ;-) [19:40:47] New York is probably one of the most dense places when it comes to railway lines so I figured that would be a nice testcase [19:40:57] JohnLewis: Lydia_WMDE: Added... I hope that is about understandable [19:41:06] cool [19:41:08] thx [19:42:59] multichill: ;) [19:43:08] good work! [19:43:18] * aude knows [19:43:57] aude: Any toy projects running besides wikidata work? Still working on the coordinates? [19:44:45] multichill: yes but my bot is on holiday [19:45:12] The whole Commons RFC has been closed so I can finally run on that again [19:45:20] \o/ [19:45:34] Probably hitting the 100K tonight [19:46:04] (for categories, if you include all it's already 104K) [19:47:08] Lydia_WMDE: I was looking at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58903 . We have some more extensions deployed on Wikipedia/Commons which add namespaces. Are these excluded by default? [19:47:28] multichill: nope [19:47:36] hoo: [[bugzilla:bugnumber]] is your friend :) [19:47:46] JohnLewis: Oh right :P [19:47:51] Instead of the ugly external link ;) [19:48:03] JohnFLewis: Bit of a stupid bot, will complain if you type [[]] [19:48:14] (or it least does in other channels) [19:48:25] multichill: Going to eat something now... can you poke back when I'm back? ; [19:48:34] multichill: I know. I get quite annoyed because of it. [19:48:49] I'm pretty sure I kicked that bot several times :P [19:48:49] or ask aude [19:48:51] * hoo|away hides [20:31:55] (03PS7) 10Aude: Remove hardcoded ids from SetClaimTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/102919 [20:34:11] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Remove hard coded entity ids from SetQualifierTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/102863 (owner: 10Hoo man) [20:39:32] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Remove hard coded entity ids from SetQualifierTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/102863 (owner: 10Hoo man) [20:57:52] \o/ [21:17:30] Lydia_WMDE / aude : I run into this anoying bug that the third claim you try to add to a page gives an edit error [21:17:38] Do you know if a bug is open for that? Couldn't find it [21:21:22] there is bug for that [21:21:56] ok [21:22:48] might be https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58394 [21:23:18] applies to adding claim also [21:29:06] aude: Yup, that's the one. Commented, very easy to reproduce [21:29:21] And very anoying [21:31:39] multichill: Sorry, I couldn't answer you yesterday [21:32:00] Yesterday was a long time ago, what was it about again? ;-) [21:32:12] :) [21:32:31] It was about the "cannot auto-describe" message in the wikidata searches [21:32:42] Which isn't translated [21:32:47] Oh, right, that was in Magnus' tool? [21:32:51] Yes [21:33:00] But that message doesn't appear in the .js [21:35:28] Did you try asking Magnus? [21:36:49] Not yet, indeed I don't know if he connects to IRC [21:39:13] That's very rare [21:40:42] Hmmmm, and the search isn't even working in es.wiki right now [21:41:19] Well, I must go, again... I'll look back at it later [21:41:40] Thanks, multichill [21:52:04] Is there a tool to check which articles at e.g http://ca.wikipedia.org are missing a wikidata entry? [21:52:34] and/or which articles still have old interwiki links [21:52:57] I remember a report with stats some months back... But I forgot where did it come from [21:57:07] qgil: Yes, there is [21:57:28] https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Especial:UnconnectedPages [21:57:48] Weird, no l10n [21:58:15] qgil: And that in Catalan! ;-) [21:59:30] Weird, looks like no import bots worked there. https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajuntament_de_Sabadell is quite an old page [22:01:36] multichill, thank you! First awareness (I'm not sure anybody knows / remembers this page there), then investigation, eventually fixing the problem. ;) [22:09:09] qgil: Looks like it still contains a lot of easy fixes. Already did a couple of them [22:10:03] multichill, yeah, the ones I'm seeing are quasi-duplicates: there was already one page linked to wikidata and therefore the second one could not be associated by following the old interwiki links [22:20:35] qgil: Something else, are you following up with the WMCH guys about the hackathon? [22:20:53] Rachel, not me [22:21:01] as shared and agreed :) [22:21:28] multichill, I'd say, if you are interested, let them know [22:22:05] as things stand I don't see the WMF being a mediator / advisor anymore beyond sponsorship travel budget and other minor details [22:22:35] No, just want to make sure that things are moving forward. My goals is to just come as an attendee :-) [22:23:19] What would you drop compared to this year? I liked the way we worked together. [22:24:11] I would drop hours from the WMF. [22:24:45] I also liked the way we worked, but WMNL alone could have reaced basically the same resultst with less involvement from our side [22:25:40] now DE and NL can help CH directly, if they wish. WMF can still be there for whatever is needed, acting upon request [22:26:13] less evening calls :) [22:27:08] True. Just keep telling Rachel the only reason we're doing it in Switzerland next year is that she can climb. She'll like that ;-) [22:32:34] multichill, oh, it didn't take me long to say that months ago :)