[00:40:08] <mutante>	 aude: yw, i know it took a while again but i prefer consensus on the actual gerrit change
[00:40:15] <mutante>	 lgtm
[00:47:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "Thanks for moving this into Wikibase as suggested" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/97510 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[04:45:09] <farzaneh>	 hi, I have a question regarding editing multilingual labels on wikidata
[04:45:43] <farzaneh>	 I am not sure how labels can be edited
[04:45:50] <farzaneh>	 can anyone help please?
[04:49:59] <jeremyb>	 farzaneh: that questions unclear to me. (but i don't really know wikidata) can you give a link and a pointer to which part of the page?
[04:50:20] <jeremyb>	 question's*
[04:50:53] <farzaneh>	 well, each entity has an item
[04:51:12] <farzaneh>	 and each item has multilingual labels
[04:51:21] <farzaneh>	 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Notes/Data_model_primer#Summary_of_the_data_model
[04:52:51] <jeremyb>	 entity:item is 1:1, right?
[04:52:59] <jeremyb>	 or should be
[04:53:10] <farzaneh>	 yes I believe
[04:53:42] <farzaneh>	 but each has a number of labels and aliases in all languages
[04:53:44] <jeremyb>	 farzaneh: keep in mind berlin (should be) asleep atm :-]
[04:54:13] * jeremyb  goes to look at an item

[04:54:33] <jeremyb>	 speaking of which, i wonder where dennyvrandecic's living now? berlin?
[04:56:43] <farzaneh>	 So, any pointers? I have seen scripts do it, but not sure how to change labels manually.
[04:56:52] <PiRSquared>	 Why can't global sysops edit protected items?!
[04:57:18] <PiRSquared>	 I don't see anything in https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:ListGroupRights#sysop that gives this right other than the usual editprotected
[04:58:29] <jeremyb>	 ugh, oauthadmins is an extra group? clutter!
[04:59:24] <PiRSquared>	 jeremyb: any idea why GS isn't enough to edit protected items?
[04:59:43] <jeremyb>	 PiRSquared: why do you think i was looking at oauthadmins? :)
[04:59:46] <jeremyb>	 PiRSquared: example?
[05:00:07] <PiRSquared>	 e.g. I'm a global sysop and can't edit https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q16503 ...
[05:00:18] <PiRSquared>	 can't change sitelinks, etc.
[05:00:41] <PiRSquared>	 "This page is protected. Editing is not allowed" tooltip
[05:00:41] <rschen7754>	 can a non-admin steward edit it?
[05:01:05] <PiRSquared>	 I don't see why a steward would be able to if a GS can't
[05:01:16] <PiRSquared>	 it seems to be a Wikibase-rights issue, but I might be wrong
[05:02:01] <PiRSquared>	 LOL I can unprotect it and then edit it, though
[05:02:19] <jeremyb>	 hah
[05:02:34] <PiRSquared>	 someone tell me this is already filed on bugzilla
[05:02:52] <PiRSquared>	 I need to go now. *Please* update me about this on [[m:User talk:PiRSquared17]]
[05:03:18] <jeremyb>	 welp, i was too late to say bye
[05:08:09] <farzaneh>	 Anyone here who knows how multilingual lablels can be edited?
[05:09:47] <jeremyb>	 farzaneh: the question pirsquared raised showed me something relevant. label editing is mentioned in some edit summaries and you can see what changed in the diff
[05:09:50] <jeremyb>	 still digging
[05:10:53] <farzaneh>	 jeremyb, yes that I have seen. And some scripts like merge.js do it, but can't fix errors manually.
[05:10:57] <farzaneh>	 jeremyb, thanks
[05:17:16] <jeremyb>	 grrrr, wikidata needs a sandbox
[05:17:25] <jeremyb>	 i guess i'll use test wikidata
[05:18:29] <jeremyb>	 oh, here we go
[05:18:30] <jeremyb>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4115189
[05:18:58] <farzaneh>	 :)
[05:24:07] <Sven_Manguard>	 jeremyb: I think that's the one I created
[05:24:59] <jeremyb>	 Sven_Manguard: hey, how's life away from Charlie?
[05:25:09] <Sven_Manguard>	 Charlie?
[05:25:18] <Sven_Manguard>	 oh
[05:25:23] <Sven_Manguard>	 I miss Boston
[05:25:26] <Sven_Manguard>	 I miss the people
[05:25:31] <Sven_Manguard>	 I miss being able to walk places
[05:25:49] <jeremyb>	 huh, account deleted? https://twitter.com/RideLikeCharlie
[05:25:59] <jeremyb>	 do you drive?
[05:28:39] <jeremyb>	 > +00000001880-01-01T00:00:00Z
[05:28:47] <jeremyb>	 is that a valid iso8601 date?
[05:28:54] * jeremyb  has to go reread the spec

[05:29:03] <jeremyb>	 (that's appearing for me on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1792 )
[05:41:36] <jeremyb>	 farzaneh: best guess is people use the interface language that matches the lang they want to edit. or they don't edit some labels because they don't know they can
[05:41:41] <jeremyb>	 farzaneh: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q4115189&action=history
[05:41:59] <jeremyb>	 i did ?uselang=da and then changed it back from there
[05:42:48] <jeremyb>	 the edits that say labelLister were with labelLister which you can enable for yourself @ https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets
[05:42:59] <jeremyb>	 aude: ^^ ?
[05:43:58] <jeremyb>	 Lydia_WMDE: btw, javascript is one word always!! (no space. and also never JavaScript. nor Java)
[05:44:37] * jeremyb  is responding to http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata-l/2013-November/003206.html

[05:45:56] <jeremyb>	 Lydia_WMDE: (errrr, whoops. never JavaScript was wrong? but definitely never "java script")
[05:46:00] <farzaneh>	 hm, makes sense. I was hoping there'd be a way to change the label without changing the interface.
[05:46:10] * jeremyb  will just blindly trust https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javascript

[05:46:17] <jeremyb>	 farzaneh: well there's the gadget
[05:46:32] <farzaneh>	 What is LabelLister?
[05:47:01] <farzaneh>	 Oh gotcha
[05:47:08] <jeremyb>	 i only first heard of it tonight
[05:47:27] <jeremyb>	 farzaneh: the docs don't help though. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Label doesn't mention anything about multilingualism :(
[05:47:46] <farzaneh>	 hmm
[05:51:56] <farzaneh>	 jeremyb, awesome! labelLister was the answer :) thanks!
[05:53:01] <jeremyb>	 farzaneh: even has a shortcut (hover over it)
[05:54:52] <jeremyb>	 farzaneh: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Gadget-labelLister.js#Farsi_translation
[06:01:23] <farzaneh>	 jeremyb, nice
[06:08:26] <farzaneh>	 jeremyb, thanks again. good night
[06:08:31] <jeremyb>	 you too :)
[08:05:56] <liangent>	 WikibaseDatabase missing?
[08:06:00] <liangent>	 local-liangent-php@tools-dev:~/mw/extensions/WikibaseDatabase$ git pull
[08:06:01] <liangent>	 fatal: remote error: Git repository not found
[09:04:15] <tgr>	 hi
[09:05:42] <tgr>	 what's the deployment schedule for wikibase client on wmf sites?
[09:06:05] <tgr>	 does it get updated every week together with mediawiki core?
[09:11:37] <GerardM->	 tgr when there are updates to the client, it gets updated in all the WMF sites
[09:11:55] <GerardM->	 it is production software
[09:20:41] <tgr>	 GerardM-: i'm basically trying to figure out if this change is live: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/89698/9
[09:21:05] <tgr>	 per normal deployment schedule, it should have been deployed last thursday
[09:21:15] <tgr>	 but it does not seem to be working
[09:22:36] <GerardM->	 given that they have some festivities in the US, it is not a normal week I understand... there are changes that I am looking for as well.. a configuration change that allows for a font for Polish
[09:22:51] <GerardM->	 it is frustrating
[09:22:54] <GerardM->	 at times
[09:31:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Mayankmadan: Prefer double-quoted strings in Ruby code [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/97842 
[09:37:10] <Lydia_WMDE>	 tgr: not live yet - should roll out next week
[09:37:21] <Lydia_WMDE>	 no deployments this week because of thanksgiving
[09:37:35] <tgr>	 thx, Lydia!
[09:38:05] <Lydia_WMDE>	 tgr: in general we deploy every 2 weeks
[09:54:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 04-1] "I support preferring double-quoted strings where it makes sense, but when having to escape those quotes, this will decrease the readabilit" (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/97842 (owner: 10Mayankmadan)
[10:00:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Zfilipin: [C: 04-1] "Good job so far, but single quotes inside double quotes should remain as they were." (0315 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/97842 (owner: 10Mayankmadan)
[10:04:53] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Mayankmadan: Prefer double-quoted strings in Ruby code [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/97842 
[10:05:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Prefer double-quoted strings in Ruby code [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/97842 (owner: 10Mayankmadan)
[10:08:17] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Mayankmadan: Prefer double-quoted strings in Ruby code [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/97842 
[10:08:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Prefer double-quoted strings in Ruby code [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/97842 (owner: 10Mayankmadan)
[10:17:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Mayankmadan: Prefer double-quoted strings in Ruby code [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/97842 
[10:19:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "@jeroen: Got a -2 from Danwe for that, though >_<" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/97510 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[10:21:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Daniel Kinzler: (bug #57014) Introducing FormatSnakValue API module [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/97510 
[10:21:56] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Tobi_WMDE: --^
[10:22:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "PS3 is a rebase" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/97510 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[10:23:53] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] "re-assigning +2 from addshore after the change was rebased" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/97510 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[10:28:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: (bug #57014) Introducing FormatSnakValue API module [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/97510 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[10:43:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS10) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Implemented "movetoolbar" for claimviews in claimlistview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/90508 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[10:43:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS11) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Keeping track of claim index in claimview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/90507 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[10:43:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Using explicit checks in wb.Statement [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96255 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[10:43:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS8) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Adjusted ChangeOpClaim/SetClaim to be able to reorder groups [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91189 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[10:43:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS9) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Implemented ordering of statement groups in the UI [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91191 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[10:43:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Implemented rank selector widget [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96264 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[10:59:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 04-1] "this breaks dumpJson.php (also see comment)" (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96258 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[11:01:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: "if merged together with Ic360a39, then the problem appears fixed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96258 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[11:03:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: (bug 57214) use DispatchingEntitySerializer for JSON (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96259 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[11:17:21] <Jianhui67>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions 
[11:17:31] <Jianhui67>	 is heavily backlogged
[11:21:44] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Oo
[11:21:50] <Lydia_WMDE>	 liangent: what did you do there?
[11:22:07] <Lydia_WMDE>	 take it a bit slower next time please :)
[11:24:10] <liangent>	 Lydia_WMDE: I bot-merged a bunch of items, most of which have only one or two sitelinks, and was created by bot due to missing langlinks.
[11:24:41] <liangent>	 then I took the list of what my bot merged, had a look at it, then posted to to Rfd
[11:24:50] <liangent>	 *posted it
[11:46:24] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS9) 10Aude: Introduce ChangeLineFormatter in the client [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95596 
[11:46:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Aude: Split ChangeHandler::getPagesToUpdate into new class with tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96384 
[11:49:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS10) 10Aude: Introduce ChangeLineFormatter in the client [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95596 
[11:49:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Aude: Split ChangeHandler::getPagesToUpdate into new class with tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96384 
[11:49:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Split ChangeHandler::getPagesToUpdate into new class with tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96384 (owner: 10Aude)
[12:02:06] <reimann>	 is it possible to {{subst:}} a LUA call? For a tutorial, I need to outcome of a LUA module of today - not changing if someone changes the corresponding items.
[12:04:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS8) 10Addshore: Allow id and type params in wbeditentity data! [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/94775 
[12:06:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Allow id and type params in wbeditentity data! [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/94775 (owner: 10Addshore)
[12:07:02] <liangent>	 reimann: yes it is - but is this related to wikidata?
[12:07:21] <liangent>	 {{subst:#invoke:module-name|func-name}} should work
[12:07:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS9) 10Addshore: Allow id and type params in wbeditentity data! [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/94775 
[12:08:02] <archinform>	 hihi
[12:08:53] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Allow id and type params in wbeditentity data! [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/94775 (owner: 10Addshore)
[12:08:57] <reimann>	 liangent: thank you. I plan a tutorial how to model biological taxonomy in Wikidata
[12:09:10] <reimann>	 so, yes, but from users point of view
[12:09:42] <archinform>	 Is P402 (OpenStreetMap Relation ID) already established as "official" relation ID to OSM?
[12:09:51] <reimann>	 perhaps, from developers point of view it is not Wikidata but Mediawiki (?) related
[12:10:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS11) 10Addshore: Further refactor GetEntitiesOutput [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95374 
[12:11:19] <archinform>	 Want to use P402 for inclusion in own database, but don't want to do work twice.
[12:13:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS10) 10Addshore: Allow id and type params in wbeditentity data! [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/94775 
[12:13:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS6) 10Addshore: Add ungrouped list api parameter [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96268 
[12:15:01] <archinform>	 Maybe someone knows more about actual situation of connection between Wikidata and OSM. Is there any specialist out there? 
[12:18:06] <archinform>	 noone?
[13:00:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Daniel Kinzler: (bug 57588) Scientific notation for quantities. [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/97907 
[13:09:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS11) 10Aude: Introduce ChangeLineFormatter in the client [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95596 
[13:09:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Aude: Split ChangeHandler::getPagesToUpdate into new class with tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96384 
[13:13:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS12) 10Aude: Introduce ChangeLineFormatter in the client [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95596 
[13:13:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS6) 10Aude: Split ChangeHandler::getPagesToUpdate into new class with tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96384 
[13:32:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Zfilipin: [C: 04-1] "I have created a few warnings and questions for Tobi." (037 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/97842 (owner: 10Mayankmadan)
[13:34:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: Introduce ChangeLineFormatter in the client (033 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95596 (owner: 10Aude)
[13:51:06] <lbenedix>	 Lydia_WMDE: when is the next deployment date?
[13:57:15] <liangent>	 addshore: DanielK_WMDE: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/81001/ - re previous discussion: if data returned from wbgetentities contain dummy codes and we reject dummy codes in new data, this creates a new scenario where wbgetentities output is not valid wbeditentity input
[13:57:57] <liangent>	 and it's even worse that there's no way to fix it to a valid wbeditentity input programmatically 
[14:02:05] <addshore>	 lbenedix: next week i believe
[14:41:43] <yann_>	 hello
[14:44:55] <yann_>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q812082
[14:45:33] <yannf>	 could you explain me why I can't ad a Commons category?
[14:46:33] <Revi>	 yannf: You should be able to add commons cat.
[14:46:52] <yannf>	 yeah, but I can't
[14:47:42] <yannf>	 message is "The external client site did not provide page information"
[14:48:01] <yannf>	 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Bay_Psalm_Book cat exists
[14:49:01] <yannf>	 oh, adding "Category:" is necessary :/
[14:49:25] <yannf>	 this seems very unusual
[15:10:49] <yannf>	 Revi, how to link this item to more general Psalters?
[15:43:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 04-1] Prefer double-quoted strings in Ruby code (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/97842 (owner: 10Mayankmadan)
[15:54:18] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS6) 10Henning Snater: Implemented rank selector widget [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96264 
[16:00:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "I think me and Danwe are quite in agreement on what should happen here. Thing is that I don't see you creating a new component, and doing " [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/97510 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[16:05:24] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] Keeping track of claim index in claimview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/90507 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[16:05:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] Implemented "movetoolbar" for claimviews in claimlistview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/90508 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[16:05:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] Adjusted ChangeOpClaim/SetClaim to be able to reorder groups [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91189 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[16:05:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] Implemented ordering of statement groups in the UI [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91191 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[16:05:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] Using explicit checks in wb.Statement [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96255 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[16:06:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] Implemented rank selector widget [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96264 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[16:07:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Refactored inputAutoExpand jQuery plugin [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/94769 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[16:08:18] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 04-1] "Some small issues, the rest looks good" (033 comments) [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/97907 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[16:10:01] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Tobi_WMDE: Henning_WMDE: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49120 <- added the issues i found with ranks and linked them as blockers there
[16:11:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Daniel Kinzler: (bug 57646) Exclude missing entities from JS vars [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/97923 
[16:12:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Keeping track of claim index in claimview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/90507 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[16:16:17] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Implemented "movetoolbar" for claimviews in claimlistview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/90508 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[16:16:17] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Tobi_WMDE: --^^
[16:19:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: (bug 57214) use DispatchingEntitySerializer for JSON (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96259 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[16:19:19] <DanielK_WMDE>	 aude: --^
[16:19:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Adjusted ChangeOpClaim/SetClaim to be able to reorder groups [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91189 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[16:19:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Henning Snater: Added SetReference test with invalid property [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92299 
[16:20:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS9) 10Daniel Kinzler: (bug 57214) use DispatchingEntitySerializer for JSON [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96259 
[16:22:44] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Implemented ordering of statement groups in the UI [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91191 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[16:25:53] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Using explicit checks in wb.Statement [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96255 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[16:27:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] Added SetReference test with invalid property [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92299 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[16:27:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS8) 10Daniel Kinzler: (bug 54320) Include datatype in snak serialization. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96258 
[16:28:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS9) 10Daniel Kinzler: (bug 54320) Include datatype in snak serialization. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96258 
[16:28:10] <DanielK_WMDE>	 aude: --^
[16:28:54] <aude>	 DanielK_WMDE: ok 
[16:29:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Implemented rank selector widget [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96264 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[16:34:24] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Added SetReference test with invalid property [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92299 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[16:50:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] (bug 57646) Exclude missing entities from JS vars [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/97923 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[16:53:44] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: (bug 57646) Exclude missing entities from JS vars [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/97923 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[16:54:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Daniel Kinzler: (bug 57588) Scientific notation for quantities. [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/97907 
[17:00:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-1] Allow id and type params in wbeditentity data! (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/94775 (owner: 10Addshore)
[17:06:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-1] "avoid global state..." (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95374 (owner: 10Addshore)
[17:09:11] * aude  getting failing tests

[17:10:12] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase#1279 (master - 8d2ac53 : jenkins-bot): The build was broken.
[17:10:12] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/compare/37ed06e87cc9...8d2ac53c886b
[17:10:12] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/14609989
[17:10:42] <aude>	 travis agrees
[17:12:09] <aude>	 hmmm, travis is complaining about something different
[17:12:29] <JohnLewis>	 aude: Tell travis to shut up and complain about what you are?
[17:13:37] <aude>	 :)
[17:13:59] <JohnLewis>	 I didn't know Liangent was here.
[17:14:19] * JohnLewis  wants to complain <s>about</s> to Liangent

[17:42:02] <dennyvrandecic>	 jeremyb: SF
[17:45:15] <jeremyb>	 dennyvrandecic: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_USA
[18:03:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-1] "A bunch of nitpicks, mostly about naming etc." (0314 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95596 (owner: 10Aude)
[18:04:20] <dennyvrandecic>	 jeremyb: wikimedians to socialize!
[18:06:15] <jeremyb>	 dennyvrandecic: well and talks too!
[18:07:23] <dennyvrandecic>	 like a local wikimania
[18:07:32] <jeremyb>	 yes, exactly
[18:07:55] <dennyvrandecic>	 why so close to wikimania
[18:08:06] <jeremyb>	 that's the date we could get
[18:08:12] <jeremyb>	 i like the date actually
[18:08:25] <jeremyb>	 over 2 months until wikimania
[18:08:36] <dennyvrandecic>	 yeah, only 2 months until wikimania
[18:08:51] <DanielK_WMDE>	 jeremyb: where will it be?
[18:09:03] <jeremyb>	 DanielK_WMDE: tribeca
[18:09:14] <DanielK_WMDE>	 nice
[18:09:30] <jeremyb>	 i hope that's accurate :P
[18:09:43] * jeremyb  doesn't know those neighborhoods sooo well

[18:09:51] <DanielK_WMDE>	 (why do i think this stands for "Triangle Below Canal Street"? Is that true?)
[18:09:54] <jeremyb>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q766014
[18:10:46] <DanielK_WMDE>	 seems to be true... where the hell did I see that? 
[18:10:49] <DanielK_WMDE>	 bah, whatever :)
[18:12:39] <jeremyb>	 wow, i guess i was right. i clicked the coords from the article and google puts the ping practically right on top of the venue
[18:12:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 031] "Looks pretty good, but should look again tomorrow, when i'm less tired :)" (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96384 (owner: 10Aude)
[18:13:05] <jeremyb>	 the pin*
[18:17:49] <hawke_1>	 Is there any way to see the current status of 'wikidata query'? i.e. how out-of-date it is?
[18:18:33] <DanielK_WMDE>	 hawke_1: out-of-date?
[18:19:07] <DanielK_WMDE>	 hawke_1: "early next year" is tthe best estimate i can currently give.
[18:19:19] <hawke_1>	 ?
[18:19:46] <hawke_1>	 “Note that these 283 results are based on a dataset that may be a few days old.” — is there a way to find how old that is?
[18:19:56] <DanielK_WMDE>	 hawke_1: oh, you are talking about magnus' tool, not the "real" Query interface 
[18:19:57] <lazowik>	 DanielK_WMDE: I think he is talking about the tool…
[18:19:58] <lazowik>	 yep
[18:20:02] <hawke_1>	 yeah
[18:20:08] <DanielK_WMDE>	 no idea then :)
[18:20:43] <hawke_1>	 k. Is there anything similar that stays more current?
[18:21:12] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: Split ChangeHandler::getPagesToUpdate into new class with tests (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96384 (owner: 10Aude)
[18:21:33] <DanielK_WMDE>	 hawke_1: not until we roll out the real query interface. early next year...
[18:22:09] <DanielK_WMDE>	 it will (hopefully) always be up to date, robust and performant - but not (at least initially) as powerful as what magnus wrote
[18:22:15] <aude>	 bah, no aliases for Tribeca :(
[18:22:21] * Lydia_WMDE  hugs JohnLewis

[18:23:31] <JohnLewis>	 Hi Lydia_WMDE :p
[18:25:21] <aude>	 so many nitpicks
[18:26:08] <DanielK_WMDE>	 aude: i'm the nitpicker!
[18:27:26] * aude  renames everything to Factory

[18:29:45] <aude>	 DanielK_WMDE: i don't like "factory" in these cases
[18:29:49] <DanielK_WMDE>	 aude: I was seriously discussion a FactoryFactory with danwe yesterday.
[18:29:49] <aude>	 other suggestions?
[18:29:55] <aude>	 :D
[18:29:55] <DanielK_WMDE>	 we are approaching Java country :/
[18:30:07] <DanielK_WMDE>	 aude: why don't you like it? 
[18:30:19] <DanielK_WMDE>	 they seem to fit the pattern
[18:30:20] <aude>	 maybe for external change is ok
[18:33:11] <aude>	 for making a cache entry, it's bit more involved to create one
[18:34:04] <DanielK_WMDE>	 factories can be complex :) but i don't care that much in that case.
[18:34:09] <DanielK_WMDE>	 anyway, off for now
[18:34:21] <aude>	 ok
[18:35:35] * aude  investigates test failures

[18:36:21] <dennyvrandecic>	 does anyone here have a bit experience with pywikidata ?
[18:39:22] <aude>	 dennyvrandecic: you mean pywikibot?
[18:39:32] <aude>	 i'm not sure pywikidata is still maintained
[18:39:40] * aude  not the right person to ask, anyway

[18:46:07] <hoo>	 legoktm: ^
[18:51:03] <dennyvrandecic>	 yeah, it is pywikibot
[18:51:26] <dennyvrandecic>	 any better irc channel for that one?
[18:52:45] <Mineo>	 #pywikipediabot, probably
[18:54:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS6) 10Mayankmadan: Prefer double-quoted strings in Ruby code [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/97842 
[18:54:07] <dennyvrandecic>	 Mineo: thanks
[19:03:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Zfilipin: [C: 031] Prefer double-quoted strings in Ruby code [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/97842 (owner: 10Mayankmadan)
[19:42:33] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase#1281 (master - 97f9a0c : Translation updater bot): The build was broken.
[19:42:33] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/compare/ec38b8e98f3c...97f9a0ca3c27
[19:42:33] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/14618939
[19:48:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: (bug 57588) Scientific notation for quantities. (031 comment) [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/97907 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[19:52:29] <JeroenDeDauw>	 It's a dennyvrandecic!
[19:52:48] <dennyvrandecic>	 hi JeroenDeDauw
[19:53:22] <^d>	 JeroenDeDauw: Attack / Item / Pokémon / Run
[19:56:09] <JeroenDeDauw>	 ^d: attack, I want to capture this dennyvrandecic 
[20:19:30] <hawke_1>	 Are there any userscripts (or the like) to enable pasting wikipedia or wikidata URLs into the statement values?
[20:20:45] <hawke_1>	 Currently the way I have to do it is find the entity on wikipedia, click 'data item', and then copy just the Q# value from the URL.
[20:21:31] <hawke_1>	 It would be nice if I could either copy/paste the wikipedia URL directly, or at least copy the 'data item' link from the wikipedia page…
[20:22:23] <dennyvrandecic>	 what do youmean with statement values?
[20:23:53] <hawke_1>	 sorry, property value of a statement.
[20:24:09] <hawke_1>	 at least I think that’s the right term, based on https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Notes/Data_model_primer
[20:41:56] <dennyvrandecic>	 but why would you need the Q number for that? usually you should be able to find it via the name in the widget
[20:45:31] <hawke_1>	 dennyvrandecic: mostly when there are a bunch of things with the same name
[20:52:04] <dennyvrandecic>	 the dom has the variable wgWikibaseItemId
[20:52:24] <dennyvrandecic>	 you can include a little JS that injects it anywhere in the page
[20:53:52] <dennyvrandecic>	 e.g. $('#firstHeading').append(' ' + wgWikibaseItemId)
[20:54:16] <dennyvrandecic>	 (it won't look pretty like this, but you can improve on it
[20:54:21] <dennyvrandecic>	 )
[20:54:30] <hoo>	 mw.config.get( 'wgWikibaseItemId ' )
[20:54:31] <hoo>	 :P
[20:54:53] <hawke_1>	 Well, I was looking at it more from the angle of actually editing wikidata. ;-)
[20:55:10] <dennyvrandecic>	 hoo: but the global works as well, it seems?
[20:55:29] <hoo>	 dennyvrandecic: It does, but it's discouraged as we want to remove them one day.... globals are bad
[20:55:42] <dennyvrandecic>	 hawke_1: improve labels, descriptions, and aliases, so that the entity selector widget is more useful for your use cases
[20:56:02] <dennyvrandecic>	 hoo: understood
[21:34:46] <JeroenDeDauw>	 ^demon|meeting: hey - no meetings untill the dennyvrandecic is captured!
[21:35:44] <JohnLewis>	 JeroenDeDauw: Just ask Google to give his current location out and find him that way? :p
[21:44:10] <JeroenDeDauw>	 JohnLewis: great idea. Now all I need is a big catapult so I can throw a pokeball till SF
[21:49:55] <dennyvrandecic>	 I have to admit I never watched or played pokemon... these references are sligthly lost on me
[21:51:28] <JohnLewis>	 JeroenDeDauw: Will WMDE let you add it onto their expenses?
[21:55:52] <JeroenDeDauw>	 JohnLewis: building the catapult? I guess our space lazor will get priority :|
[21:57:19] <JohnLewis>	 A space lazor vs a giant catapult? WMDE clearly have no knowledge of what priority means.
[21:58:26] * YuviPanda  gives everyone a CatapultFactory

[21:59:02] <JohnLewis>	 YuviPanda: Thank you but there is a larger issue here. The fact WMDE thing a space lazor is more important than a catapult.
[21:59:24] <YuviPanda>	 is a lazor a german laser?
[21:59:28] <YuviPanda>	 or a completely different thing?
[22:00:22] <JohnLewis>	 I think a German laser.
[22:02:47] <JeroenDeDauw>	 JohnLewis: what's wrong with you $nationailityUnknownToMe people? A space lazor is clearly more imporant then a giant catapult
[22:03:41] <JohnLewis>	 JeroenDeDauw: Never. A catapult is always more important!
[22:04:21] * YuviPanda  puts a laser on his Death Star, launches it with a Catapult

[22:05:10] * JohnLewis  gives YuviPanda a round of applause

[22:05:18] <JeroenDeDauw>	 YuviPanda: our commitee banned death stars. They take up to much space, and we already moved to a new office
[22:05:38] <YuviPanda>	 JeroenDeDauw: you missed a trick, which is to park it next to the moon.
[22:05:40] <^demon|meeting>	 JeroenDeDauw: You tell that to the people who schedule meetings with me :)
[22:06:09] <YuviPanda>	 ^demon|meeting: best way outta that is to schedule a meeting with yourself all day. Then when someone tries you can genuinely say 'oh, I already have a meeting!'
[22:06:17] <JohnLewis>	 JeroenDeDauw: Reminds me, MediaWiki.org gave me the idea to write on the street in chalk my bug reports... so you'll probably see a bug report next week on the road, k?
[22:08:23] <JeroenDeDauw>	 JohnLewis: outside of the WMDE office? I'll look foreward to it!
[22:09:04] <JeroenDeDauw>	 YuviPanda: oh great, I'll try that, and reserve the whole dev room for it. I shall has quitness
[22:09:20] <YuviPanda>	 :D
[22:09:50] <^demon|meeting>	 I'll write a bug report on the street in front of my house.
[22:09:54] <^demon|meeting>	 I doubt anyone will see it though.
[22:12:26] <JohnLewis>	 ^demon|meeting: You will!
[22:12:36] <JohnLewis>	 Therefore you can fix it :D
[22:12:57] <^demon|meeting>	 Well, until the street cleaners come around 3am and wash it off.
[22:13:01] <YuviPanda>	 ^demon|goldfish
[22:13:01] <^demon|meeting>	 So I get <24h to fix it!
[22:13:14] <YuviPanda>	 'oh, someone made a bug report on the street!'
[22:13:22] <YuviPanda>	 'oh! someone made a bug report on the street!'
[22:14:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jcf2000: Addressed Bug 57592: Retains form input on POST error [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/98011 
[22:22:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 031] "Looks good, though I don't remember the details of the MW request 'API'. Perhaps getText is better? idk" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/98011 (owner: 10Jcf2000)
[22:22:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] "Trigger tests" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/98011 (owner: 10Jcf2000)
[22:22:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 031] Addressed Bug 57592: Retains form input on POST error [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/98011 (owner: 10Jcf2000)
[22:23:24] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Chad: "Why is API in scare quotes?" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/98011 (owner: 10Jcf2000)
[22:23:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 04-1] "The second parameter to Html::input actually is the value, please use that." (034 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/98011 (owner: 10Jcf2000)
[22:24:19] <hoo>	 oh wow... 3 people commenting on a change at a time :P
[22:24:49] * hoo  feels like a terrible nitpicker now

[23:05:52] <JeroenDeDauw>	 hoo: FIRST!
[23:06:12] <hoo>	 :D
[23:07:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 04-1] Addressed Bug 57592: Retains form input on POST error (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/98011 (owner: 10Jcf2000)
[23:11:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jcf2000: "Thank you so much for the feedback, I'm working right now on implementing all of the changes." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/98011 (owner: 10Jcf2000)
[23:39:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jcf2000: Addressed previous issures: Changed comments and improved retain function [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/98029 
[23:40:08] <hoo>	 yikes... he created a new change
[23:41:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Abandoned) 10Jcf2000: Addressed previous issures: Changed comments and improved retain function [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/98029 (owner: 10Jcf2000)
[23:41:37] <hoo>	 ah, he noticed :) Gerrit can be confusing, I guess
[23:41:48] <hoo>	 (git in general)
[23:57:06] <JeroenDeDauw>	 s/git/people