[02:03:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Shirayuki: i18n: add comments for grep [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/97462 
[04:47:07] <Sven_Manguard>	 aude: any chance you're awake?
[06:00:25] <GerardM->	 It is utterly stupid to add Commons categories to other categories. It serves no purpose. My arguments can be found here; http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2013/11/wikidata-howto-commons-categories.html
[06:35:00] <Okki>	 I also think it was stupid. The overwhelming majority of the subjects will never have galleries
[07:15:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] i18n: add comments for grep [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/97462 (owner: 10Shirayuki)
[07:19:49] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: i18n: add comments for grep [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/97462 (owner: 10Shirayuki)
[09:19:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jens Ohlig: "This patch is potentially problematic. Although it does the right thing, it may break templates that rely on the wrong thing. Don't merge " [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96232 (owner: 10Jens Ohlig)
[09:19:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS8) 10Jens Ohlig: (Bug 54324) Sequences in Lua should start with 1 [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96232 
[09:19:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] (Bug 54324) [DON'T MERGE] Sequences in Lua should start with 1 [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96232 (owner: 10Jens Ohlig)
[09:27:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Daniel Kinzler: (bug 54320) Include datatype in snak serialization. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96258 
[09:28:02] <DanielK_WMDE>	 addshore: hey. fixed the conflict in ResultBuilder ---^
[09:28:21] <aude>	 no addshore here yet
[09:29:00] <DanielK_WMDE>	 hey katie
[09:29:05] <DanielK_WMDE>	 too bad, that :)
[09:29:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Daniel Kinzler: (bug 57214) use DispatchingEntitySerializer for JSON [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96259 
[09:30:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] (bug 54320) Include datatype in snak serialization. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96258 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[09:30:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Daniel Kinzler: (bug 57214) use DispatchingEntitySerializer for JSON [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96259 
[09:31:48] <DanielK_WMDE>	 meh.
[09:33:14] <GerardM->	 Hoi Amir, happy to be back home ... but also happy to have been to Pune ?
[09:33:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] (bug 57214) use DispatchingEntitySerializer for JSON [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96259 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[09:34:10] <DanielK_WMDE>	 hm, looks like this test isn't even run with --group Wikibase? Waht gives??
[09:34:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Daniel Kinzler: (bug 54320) Include datatype in snak serialization. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96258 
[09:42:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-1] "Avoid ad-hoc composition" (034 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95357 (owner: 10Addshore)
[09:42:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS6) 10Daniel Kinzler: (bug 57214) use DispatchingEntitySerializer for JSON [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96259 
[09:53:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-1] "Can't see when and where language codes get validated." (035 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81001 (owner: 10Liangent)
[10:01:20] <aharoni>	 GerardM-: Pune is great, home is the best.
[10:01:37] <GerardM->	 :)
[10:02:28] <GerardM->	 today on the WMF blog we introduce "concept clouds" ... I am interested in what you think  about it ...
[10:03:43] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Liangent: [C: 04-1] "Huh it's old and there even wasn't a ResultBuilder IIRC." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81001 (owner: 10Liangent)
[10:08:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "should go to core?" (033 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95596 (owner: 10Aude)
[10:08:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-1] "please rebase" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96232 (owner: 10Jens Ohlig)
[10:52:39] <hoo>	 Lydia_WMDE: What about we restore the exact label behavior from the old version in my linkItem patch?
[10:53:00] <Lydia_WMDE>	 hoo: yeah let's
[10:53:13] <hoo>	 That way we don't add more label == sitelink assumptions, but we also don't disappoint users to much
[10:53:14] <hoo>	 :)
[10:53:25] <Lydia_WMDE>	 yeah
[10:53:50] <hoo>	 We also need a tracking bug for (optional) label fallbacks... will you open it or shall I?
[10:54:28] <Lydia_WMDE>	 if you have a sec to do it please do - otherwise i will after i fought the massive email backlog looking at me right now
[10:54:55] <hoo>	 heh, will do :)
[10:55:33] <Lydia_WMDE>	 thx!
[10:57:13] <addshore>	 :<
[10:57:42] <hoo>	 "# Changes not staged for commit:" meh...
[10:59:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Make sure Scribunto is using Lua before adding our Lua scripts [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/97489 
[11:29:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Addshore: Restore old result path in wbgetentites [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/97491 
[11:30:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Addshore: Restore old result path in wbgetentites [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.23-wmf5) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/97492 
[11:33:30] <hoo>	 this late already... meh
[11:49:59] <aharoni>	 aude: Hallo again. I'm still trying to configure my client and I should be really-really close now. Are you available to help a bit?
[11:56:00] <aharoni>	 DanielK_WMDE, Lydia_WMDE - is there anybody here who could help me with a test client installation?
[12:03:22] <aharoni>	 On my local laptop I created a repo and two clients. I am trying to create sitelinks between them, but I get page titles from the live Wikipedias and not from my sites. What should I fix?
[12:04:01] <aharoni>	 kart_: ^ is it the same issue that you are having?
[12:24:05] <DanielK_WMDE>	 aharoni: look at the "sites" table in the database. make sure it contains "your" site ids with "your" urls.
[12:24:35] <DanielK_WMDE>	 sadly, there's really no good way currently to manipulate that table manually. it contains a serialized blob...
[12:24:49] <DanielK_WMDE>	 hm, perhaps file a bug about that :)
[12:29:25] <aharoni>	 DanielK_WMDE: thanks, looking at it.
[12:34:24] <aharoni>	 DanielK_WMDE: at that table in the repo wiki? or in the repo and the clients?
[12:36:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-1] "documentation issues" (033 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/94775 (owner: 10Addshore)
[12:37:04] <DanielK_WMDE>	 aharoni: all wikis. they should to be the same under most circumstances.
[12:37:24] <aharoni>	 Ok
[12:37:47] <DanielK_WMDE>	 please add to the install instructions, and/or file issues...
[12:46:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-1] "PLease use EntityRevision / EntityRevisionLookup. Don't spread the EntityContent madness!" (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95374 (owner: 10Addshore)
[13:01:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "Should probably be done on top of I0550f0b3cc65c" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81001 (owner: 10Liangent)
[13:03:19] <aharoni>	 DanielK_WMDE: I did it manually with SQL, and now the result changed:
[13:03:24] <aharoni>	 Now I get "Server responded: SyntaxError: syntax error".
[13:03:49] <aharoni>	 does this make sense? -
[13:04:03] <aharoni>	 site_data='a:1:{s:5:"paths";a:2:{s:9:"file_path";s:28:"http://localhost/wikibase-client-ca/$1";s:9:"page_path";s:31:"http://localhost/wikibase-client-ca/$1";}}'
[13:04:13] <aharoni>	 ?
[13:20:07] <DanielK_WMDE>	 aharoni: 
[13:20:08] <DanielK_WMDE>	 php > var_export( unserialize( $site_data ) );
[13:20:10] <DanielK_WMDE>	 PHP Notice:  unserialize(): Error at offset 72 of 148 bytes in php shell code on line 1
[13:20:32] <DanielK_WMDE>	 aharoni: use unserialize() to decode the data into an array structure, manipulate that, then use serialize() to create a new blob
[13:20:43] <DanielK_WMDE>	 as i said, there is currently no nice way to do this...
[13:41:01] <aharoni>	 DanielK_WMDE: it's crazy-ish :)
[13:41:12] <aharoni>	 the "s:28" part must have the length of the following string.
[13:41:19] <aharoni>	 I didn't know about unserialize.
[13:41:30] <aharoni>	 it helped: now the repo sees the clients and I can add sitelinks.
[13:42:11] <aharoni>	 However, if I refresh the pages at the clients, I still don't see the links at the sidebar.
[13:42:29] <aharoni>	 DanielK_WMDE: do I have to push the updates to the clients somehow?
[13:43:46] <aharoni>	 aude ^ I've got a feeling that you'll know the answer.
[13:48:08] <aude>	 aharoni: you can use the change dispatcher script in repo (or just purge pages)
[13:48:53] <aharoni>	 aude: where is that script exactly?
[13:48:59] <aharoni>	 action=purge
[13:49:03] <aharoni>	 action=purge doesn't help
[13:49:12] <aude>	 in wikibase lib
[13:49:35] <aude>	 but if action=purge doesn't work then something might be wrong
[13:51:12] <aharoni>	 aude: hmm. any idea what could it be?
[13:51:49] <aude>	 do you have the load balancer stuff configured?
[13:52:18] <aharoni>	 not that I know.
[13:52:36] <aude>	 see the example settings in client
[13:56:10] <aharoni>	 aude: does this look like enough configuration? - https://gist.github.com/amire80/7339b2fecbdb74319895
[13:56:30] <aude>	 no
[13:56:53] <aude>	 errr, you are using the example settings specifically?
[13:57:09] <aude>	 they may need to be adjusted
[13:57:32] <aharoni>	 aude: well, yes. I'm willing to change whatever is needed.
[13:57:52] <aharoni>	 should I just copy everything from ExampleSettings and... change whatever is needed?
[13:58:18] <aharoni>	 (btw, these are all clean new wikis, not what I tried to configure ten days ago)
[13:59:06] <aude>	 see the $wgLBFactoryConf section of example settings
[14:00:52] <aharoni>	 aude: the comment says: "In order to access a remote repo using a different database server, LBFactory_Multi must be used. In that case, enabled the block below. If the repo is on the same server, this is not necessary."
[14:00:59] <aharoni>	 I am on the same server, so do I need it?
[14:03:23] <DanielK_WMDE>	 aharoni: no.
[14:03:57] <DanielK_WMDE>	 aharoni: on the same server, it should work, but you have to configure the repo's database name explicitly.
[14:04:17] <DanielK_WMDE>	 per default, it will assue the database name is the same as the site id.
[14:04:59] <aharoni>	 DanielK_WMDE: and how do I configure it?
[14:05:25] <DanielK_WMDE>	 aharoni: docs/options.wiki :)
[14:05:28] <DanielK_WMDE>	 let me see...
[14:06:15] <DanielK_WMDE>	 aharoni: the setting is called repoDatabase
[14:06:31] <DanielK_WMDE>	 you will probably also have to configure repoNamespaces
[14:06:42] <DanielK_WMDE>	 look at the Client Settings / Basic Settings.
[14:07:35] <DanielK_WMDE>	 there's a few more: repoArticlePath and repoScriptPath, for building URLs
[14:07:51] <aharoni>	 DanielK_WMDE: do I have to configure it on the client? I think that I already have it: https://gist.github.com/amire80/7339b2fecbdb74319895
[14:07:58] <DanielK_WMDE>	 yes, on the client
[14:08:32] <DanielK_WMDE>	 yes, that should work
[14:08:45] <DanielK_WMDE>	 aharoni: do you have error reporting kranked up? is it just failing silently?
[14:09:06] <aharoni>	 error reporting where? on apache?
[14:09:31] <DanielK_WMDE>	 for php
[14:09:39] <DanielK_WMDE>	 ...and mediawiki.
[14:10:06] <DanielK_WMDE>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug
[14:11:17] <DanielK_WMDE>	 aharoni: also, check the wb_items_per_site table on the repo, and check that the site IDs used there correspond to the entries in the sites table on both the repo and the cli9ent
[14:12:13] <DanielK_WMDE>	 it must correspond to $wgWBClientSettings['siteGlobalID'] = "enwiki";
[14:12:37] <aharoni>	 DanielK_WMDE: wb_items_per_site looks ok.
[14:12:39] <aharoni>	 but:
[14:12:45] <DanielK_WMDE>	 hm, you might need the 'namespaces' setting, not sure what that defaulöts to these days
[14:13:07] <aharoni>	 if I try to run dispatchChanges.php, I get the following curious error:
[14:13:32] <aharoni>	 https://gist.github.com/amire80/bed29f421f32a3038804
[14:13:37] <DanielK_WMDE>	 aharoni: dispatchChanges only purges the pages on the target wiki. if you do edit/previedw, you should always see the sitelinks.
[14:13:45] <DanielK_WMDE>	 they get puleld from wb_items_per_site.
[14:13:48] <aharoni>	 "14:03:02 ERROR: exception 'DBConnectionError' with message 'DB connection error: Unknown database 'wikibase' (localhost)' in /home/amire80/dev/wikibase-repo/includes/db/Database.php:918"\
[14:13:58] <aharoni>	 Unknown database 'wikibase' (localhost)'
[14:14:07] <aharoni>	 why does it search for a database names "wikibase"?
[14:14:22] <DanielK_WMDE>	 I have no idea - maybe because that's in the default settings?
[14:14:22] <aharoni>	 that must be the error. there's no such database.
[14:14:51] <aharoni>	 DanielK_WMDE: I tried to look for it in ExampleSettings and couldn't find it.
[14:14:56] <DanielK_WMDE>	 aharoni: check $wgWBRepoSettings['localClientDatabases']
[14:15:20] <DanielK_WMDE>	 that would prevent pushing change notifications. 
[14:15:32] <DanielK_WMDE>	 this should not prevent the links from showing after a manual purge
[14:15:53] <aharoni>	 DanielK_WMDE: $wgWBRepoSettings['localClientDatabases'] = array( 'cawiki' => 'wikibase-client-ca', 'enwiki' => 'wikibase-client-en' );
[14:19:53] <DanielK_WMDE>	 aharoni: then it should not look for a database called 'wikibase' - unless more client databases are defined elsewhere.
[14:19:54] <aharoni>	 DanielK_WMDE: this part from my client log should be interesting: https://gist.github.com/amire80/95f87cebce34d1d1f492
[14:19:55] <DanielK_WMDE>	 anyway...
[14:20:17] <DanielK_WMDE>	 you could enable the Wikibase\LangLinkHandler debug group:
[14:20:42] <DanielK_WMDE>	 $wgDebugLogGroups['Wikibase\LangLinkHandler'] = '/some/log/file';
[14:20:49] <DanielK_WMDE>	 then do edit/preview
[14:20:52] <DanielK_WMDE>	 then check the log file
[14:22:17] <aharoni>	 DanielK_WMDE: does https://gist.github.com/amire80/95f87cebce34d1d1f492 point at a possible problem?
[14:22:28] <aharoni>	 I wonder where could that "wikibase" database name be defined.
[14:24:11] <DanielK_WMDE>	 aharoni: wait... ugh. I think hyphens in wiki ids / DB-names are "magic": they are used to defined table prefixes.
[14:24:26] <aharoni>	 wtf
[14:24:32] <DanielK_WMDE>	 if you use them in actual database names, strange things may happen
[14:25:27] <DanielK_WMDE>	 aharoni: wfSplitWikiID is the culprit :)
[14:25:45] * aude  got kicked off the internet

[14:25:56] <aude>	 looks like daniel is helping
[14:25:58] <DanielK_WMDE>	 though I *thought* this was used only by LBFactory_multi, not the "simple" or "single" LB factory
[14:26:07] <DanielK_WMDE>	 aude: i'm trying, but it's rather odd.
[14:26:13] <DanielK_WMDE>	 also, need to wrap some stuff up
[14:26:40] <aude>	 i've never setup my client and repo to connect quite this way, but it *should* work
[14:26:47] <aharoni>	 DanielK_WMDE: meh meh meh.
[14:27:14] <aharoni>	 OK, I'll try to reinstall with different database names.
[14:27:16] <aharoni>	 thanks a lot.
[14:27:53] <aude>	 for db names, stick with something like 'enwiki' :)
[14:28:18] <aude>	 no spaces or hyphens,  and if you must, then use underscore
[14:32:10] <DanielK_WMDE>	 aharoni: try the debug group thingy
[14:45:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Daniel Kinzler: (bug #57014) Introducing FormatSnakValue API module [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/97510 
[14:45:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Abandoned) 10Daniel Kinzler: (bug #57014) Introducing ApiFormatValue [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95278 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[14:57:06] <aharoni>	 \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ kart_ aude DanielK_WMDE - I MADE IT!
[14:57:15] <aharoni>	 took me a few days :)
[14:57:24] <aharoni>	 thanks A LOT for all the help.
[14:58:17] <aharoni>	 now there's one last curiosity: the link appears as "en:Artile name"
[14:58:24] <aharoni>	 I would expect just "Article name"
[15:00:22] <kart_>	 aharoni: what ;)
[15:21:24] * guillom  waves at Lydia_WMDE

[15:21:34] <Lydia_WMDE>	 hey guillom
[15:21:41] <guillom>	 Tonight, I'm going to the launch of "Libres conseils", the French translation of "Open Advice" :)
[15:22:37] <guillom>	 Lydia_WMDE: I wasn't sure you knew the whole book had been translated
[15:22:57] <Lydia_WMDE>	 guillom: ah cool - i did but they didn't do a good job of telling me about that or the party -.-
[15:23:26] <guillom>	 Lydia_WMDE: I'm planning to grab a copy for you, if they haven't planned to send you one already
[15:23:34] <Lydia_WMDE>	 guillom: \o/
[15:24:30] <lbenedix>	 Lydia_WMDE: do you know when the new dump with history is available?
[15:24:58] <Lydia_WMDE>	 lbenedix: nope, sorry
[15:25:29] <lbenedix>	 okay
[15:25:56] <aude>	 aharoni: populate interwiki table?
[15:26:23] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Abraham_WMDE: odd I'm still first in this list, since a lot of the stuff is now on GH
[15:57:25] <aharoni>	 aude: sounds reasonable
[15:57:50] <aharoni>	 aude hasharAW - do you happen to know whether there is any beta instance that is a wikidata client?
[15:58:00] <hasharAW>	 aharoni: no idea
[15:58:32] <hasharAW>	 I know we have http://wikidata.beta.wmflabs.org/ no clue whether there is any data there nor if it is being used
[15:59:10] <aude>	 aharoni: should be any beta wikipedia or wikivoyage
[15:59:20] <aude>	 probably beta commons too
[15:59:54] <reimann>	 aharoni: https://test2.wikipedia.org/ ?
[16:41:11] <DanielK_WMDE>	 aharoni: sorry, i was off for a bit.
[16:41:16] <aharoni>	 np
[16:41:22] <aharoni>	 I got it resolved.
[16:41:31] <DanielK_WMDE>	 make sure your interwiki table has "en" set as a prefix for your enwiki thingy
[16:41:39] <DanielK_WMDE>	 ah, good :)
[23:08:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS9) 10Hoo man: Overhaul jquery.wikibase.linkitem.js [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/94795 
[23:15:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hoo man: "Re-add label logic for new item creations only (per Lydia)." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/94795 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[23:53:09] <Sven_Manguard>	 aude: you still awake?
[23:58:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Fix RepoLinker for Repos with Items outside of NS 0 [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/97653 
[23:59:11] <hoo>	 this one annoyed me during testing long enough :P
[23:59:45] <hoo>	 aude: ^
[23:59:59] <hoo>	 The tests we're testing for the broken behavior :/