[00:06:27] (03PS4) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Basic cucumber tests for statements [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/94915 [00:06:28] (03PS1) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Extended browser tests for statements UI [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96671 [00:06:51] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Basic cucumber tests for statements [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/94915 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher) [00:07:06] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Extended browser tests for statements UI [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96671 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher) [08:43:22] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-DataTypes#43 (mw1.23-wmf5 - d8c99d7 : aude): The build has errored. 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[08:45:39] [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseDataModel/commit/1c3b6a606238 [08:45:39] [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseDataModel/builds/14299102 [08:45:49] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-DataValues#290 (mw1.23-wmf5 - cf50ddc : aude): The build passed. [08:45:49] [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-DataValues/commit/cf50ddc5bd94 [08:45:49] [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-DataValues/builds/14299106 [08:47:43] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase#1250 (mw1.23-wmf5 - fc08c40 : aude): The build has errored. [08:47:43] [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/commit/fc08c40c5e05 [08:47:43] [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/14299136 [09:26:36] Will we have quantities befor the Winter Olympics ? [09:31:03] there is a schedule https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Deployment [09:33:43] when I look at that it, I do not find an answer to my question [09:34:17] hmm it does not say in the links [09:34:28] it does say in the text [09:35:12] 10/12/2013 [09:53:25] That is great ... Winter Olympics are in February so consequently we could be ready to server results from Wikidata [09:53:45] [10:46:17] Hoi, https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57342 seems to be a WD action ... [10:46:54] is enabling the language as indicate in the bug enough ? [12:03:41] Hello [12:04:53] (03PS3) 10Addshore: Move Getting sitelink targets to its own class [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95357 [12:05:09] (03CR) 10Addshore: "PS3 is rebase" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95357 (owner: 10Addshore) [12:05:51] what was that? [12:06:45] (03PS8) 10Addshore: Further refactor GetEntitiesOutput [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95374 [12:06:52] (03PS5) 10Addshore: Allow id and type params in wbeditentity data! [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/94775 [12:06:57] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Move Getting sitelink targets to its own class [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95357 (owner: 10Addshore) [12:06:59] (03PS4) 10Addshore: Add ungrouped list api parameter [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96268 [12:07:56] (03PS4) 10Addshore: Move Getting sitelink targets to its own class [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95357 [12:08:13] !help [12:08:22] hi numbermaniac [12:08:26] !status [12:08:30] Hi [12:08:39] Sorry, I was testing out the commands. [12:08:47] Is there a lost of the commands you can use? [12:08:48] @help [12:08:48] I am running http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WM-Bot version wikimedia bot v. 1.20.2.0 my source code is licensed under GPL and located at https://github.com/benapetr/wikimedia-bot I will be very happy if you fix my bugs or implement new features [12:08:55] list* [12:09:09] @help [12:09:09] I am running http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WM-Bot version wikimedia bot v. 1.20.2.0 my source code is licensed under GPL and located at https://github.com/benapetr/wikimedia-bot I will be very happy if you fix my bugs or implement new features [12:09:10] see the first link above ^^ although not many are enabled [12:10:34] What link? [12:11:00] * numbermaniac is confused. [12:11:08] It works! [12:11:12] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WM-Bot [12:11:13] :P [12:11:30] numbermaniac: I have also just replied to you on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#.2B621_on_a_small_description_addition.3F :) [12:11:44] OH, I thought that was some random spam from someone named a bot [12:11:44] Lol [12:12:40] (03PS6) 10Addshore: (bug 44876) add a table of content to item pages [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/90755 (owner: 10Bene) [12:15:34] @info [12:15:34] http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/dump/%23wikidata.htm [12:17:26] @whoami [12:17:26] You are unknown to me :) [12:17:37] ...lol. [12:18:29] @seen me [12:18:38] @seen numbermaniac [12:19:08] !b [12:19:08] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/$1 [12:19:11] (03PS7) 10Addshore: (bug 44876) add a table of content to item pages [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/90755 (owner: 10Bene) [12:19:29] aude: around? if so please see ^^ [12:19:54] !place [12:19:54] that's a lovely place! [12:19:59] :P [12:20:16] !nayn [12:20:17] ~=[,,_,,]:3 [12:20:24] er... Ok. [12:20:26] [12:20:27] [12:20:27] [12:20:28] [12:20:28] [12:20:28] [12:21:14] Some people seem to have some kind of status... How? [12:21:16] (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 04-1] "-1 needs a manual rebase" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/94939 (owner: 10Bene) [12:21:54] Why does that keep coming up? [12:22:04] because I'm doing things :D [12:22:14] follow the link and see what happening [12:22:23] Ok [12:23:05] Are you like working on bugs or something? [12:23:55] reviewing :) [12:24:50] (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 032] Refactored Wikibase Lua library code to make everything testable. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95598 (owner: 10Jens Ohlig) [12:25:25] (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 04-1] "needs a manual rebase" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96258 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [12:28:25] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Refactored Wikibase Lua library code to make everything testable. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95598 (owner: 10Jens Ohlig) [12:28:49] Cool [12:29:25] Well, it's 11:29pm here, so... [12:29:27] !noght [12:29:30] !night [12:29:30] Good night, sweet dreams and dream of Wikidata (admins)! [14:37:22] Lydia_WMDE: did you get a 30c3 ticket yet? [14:38:15] JeroenDeDauw: nope - not going :/ [14:38:35] Lydia_WMDE: mad person! [14:38:40] i know [14:38:41] -.- [14:39:29] addshore: you want to go to the 30c3 [14:39:55] Lydia_WMDE: know if anyone of the office is going? I guess johl is [14:53:08] JeroenDeDauw: i guess so too - other than that no idea [15:50:58] hallo [15:51:40] kan ich hier auf deutsch ne frage stellen (wäre für mich einfacher)? [15:53:09] archinform: you probably can [15:53:14] Lydia_WMDE: German person! [15:53:37] Würde gerne zu eine best. WP-Titel + WP-Länderkennung die Wikidata-ID ermitteln, gibt's dafür eine API,etc? [15:53:49] hey archinform [15:53:54] gibt es noch nicht [15:53:57] wir arbeiten dran [15:54:06] es gibt ein externes tool das das kann [15:54:07] moment [15:54:58] https://toolserver.org/~magnus/ts2/php/wd_query.php [15:57:14] OK, danke! [15:57:31] Aber wie sieht dann die entspr, query aus? [15:57:52] Z.B. für dt. WP Lemma:Architektur [16:00:13] Ich würde die Abfrage auch gerne in ein Serverskript einbinden, da der Toolserver ja bald abgeschaltet wird ist das nicht so gut... [16:02:31] archinform: ohhhhh moment [16:02:40] das was du willst ist einfacher als ich dachte glaube ich [16:02:42] miment [16:02:44] *moment [16:02:46] archinform ich weiss nicht wass die Zukunft fur dies tools ist [16:02:59] ich frage es nach [16:03:20] Gibt's denn wenigstens schon einen Prototyp, etc zur generellen Wikidata-Abfrage? [16:03:38] archinform: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:ItemByTitle [16:11:22] Gut, http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:ItemByTitle?site=dewiki&page=Architektur liefert mir einen 302-Redirect zur passenden QXXXX Seite. Das lässt sich auswerten. [16:13:17] So damit komm ich zur nächsten Frage ;) : Kann ich jetzt mit Hilfe der QXXX sämtliche vorhandenen WP-Seiten auf den einzelnen Länderwikis ermitteln (was bisher halt über die interwikilinks funktionierte)? [16:14:29] ja das geht [16:14:33] über die api [16:14:45] http://wikidata.org/w/api.php [16:15:45] (ich kann dir leider nicht genau sagen wie aber vielleicht jemand anderes hier) [16:16:02] ich hab's bereits versucht über diese API, aber ohne Erfolg. [16:16:39] das muss gehen - vielleicht postest du mal deine abfrage? [16:16:49] eventuell kann jemand helfen hier [16:21:31] OK, über die API Sandbox kam ich zu folgender Request-URL: [16:21:55] http://wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=iwlinks&format=json&iwlimit=10&titles=Q12271 [16:23:12] everyone: archinform is trying to get the interwiki links for a given item via the api. the above request doesn't work. any help? [16:24:03] Meine Vermutung ist das prop=iwlinks falsch ist (weil es da wohl um die alten iwlinks geht), aber was ist dann richtig? [16:31:20] no one with API experience here? [16:33:00] archiform: https://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=wbgetentities&ids=Q1&format=jsonfm&props=sitelinks maybe [16:41:09] Yeah, action=wbgetentries (instead of action=query) is the key :) Thanks! [16:44:55] For your information, there is an API sandbox https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:ApiSandbox [16:46:03] it's more user friendly [16:48:03] Thanks Pvb, already found the Sandbox (but some Wikidata specific examples would be helpful there). [16:48:33] yes [17:29:13] The API seems to be great. Now I try to do a semantic query, but I need some help again: [17:31:09] I want to get the Wikidata Object ID for the entry with the Property P649 (NRHP reference number) set to the value 74001781. How to do such a query? [17:32:20] (as result the object ID Q463179 (House Fallingwater from FL Wright) should be displayed) [17:33:35] Which kind of action/parameters do I have to use for the proper API request? [18:04:31] Does noone have an answer? [18:04:43] what's the question? [18:05:40] archinform Which kind of action/parameters do I have to use for the proper API request? [18:06:23] I want to get the Wikidata Object ID for the entry with the Property P649 (NRHP reference number) set to the value 74001781. How to do such a query? [18:06:23] ah. I don't use bots, so I'm not sure, sorry. [18:06:24] (as result the object ID Q463179 (House Fallingwater from FL Wright) should be displayed) [18:18:12] Seems, that this is not possible with the wikidata API (yet). Now I found a labs project (http://208.80.153.172), which looks better. [18:21:30] archinform it is essentially the same took Lydia referred to earlier ... [18:21:51] the defintion achieved here can be used in other tools as well [18:22:47] no, Lydia posted a link to http://wikidata.org/w/api.php [18:23:59] This is the main wikimedia API and with this API You can't do semantic queries (as far as I checked out). [18:29:21] The tool on http://http://208.80.153.172 is called Wikidata Query and it is pretty powerful. With a tool like this one Wikidata becomes a real sense. I wondering, why it is so difficult to find... [18:32:34] (03Draft3) 10Aude: Fix property parser function, when property label not resolved [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96792 [18:43:22] umm [18:43:30] how do i make someone autopatrolled? [18:43:39] !admin [18:44:34] going to the users userpage and see in the toolbox [18:44:44] there's no autopatrolled group anymore [18:44:57] it vanished or something [18:45:03] it was removed by a vote thing [18:45:10] what replaced it? [18:45:11] blame vogone [18:45:18] autoconfirmed or confirmed [18:45:21] ok [18:45:32] thanks [18:45:33] so, I guess you could make someone confirmed instead [18:45:38] yeah, just did that [18:45:43] :) [18:49:32] hey, when did this channel get renamed? :) [18:50:29] a few days ago [18:50:38] there was a project chat announcement and everything D:! [18:52:03] that should have been :D! [18:52:52] it would have been if he had seen it [18:53:02] but it didn't work. :( [19:07:20] (03CR) 10Siebrand: [C: 031] "Trivial L10n/i18n changes." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/94795 (owner: 10Hoo man) [19:19:07] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 04-1] Fix property parser function, when property label not resolved (035 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96792 (owner: 10Aude) [19:19:15] aude: ^ [19:20:10] thanks JeroenDeDauw [19:28:40] (03PS4) 10Aude: Fix property parser function, when property label not resolved [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96792 [19:56:43] (03PS1) 10Aude: Move quantity data type out of experimental [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.23-wmf5) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96813 [19:56:44] (03PS1) 10Aude: Fix property parser function, when property label not resolved [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.23-wmf5) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96814 [19:57:08] JeroenDeDauw: hoo Tobi_WMDE ^ [19:57:39] aude: Are those merged on master? [19:57:43] no [19:57:46] they should be [19:58:06] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/96792/ for master [19:58:11] and i need to cherry pick the other thing [19:58:51] (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] "Trivial one" [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.23-wmf5) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96813 (owner: 10Aude) [19:58:54] (03PS1) 10Aude: Move quantity data type out of experimental [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96816 [19:58:57] yay! [19:59:28] (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] "Still trivial :D" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96816 (owner: 10Aude) [19:59:35] :) [19:59:48] we are getting close for quantities! [20:02:03] aude: :) [20:02:58] aude: Do I need to test the parser function change or did you do that enough? /me is rather busy today :/ [20:03:07] i tested it quite a bit [20:03:30] 'Congratulations, you just killed a kitten' oO [20:03:31] would be cool if you can test, but i think it's okay (and only going on test2) [20:03:34] heh [20:05:24] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Move quantity data type out of experimental [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.23-wmf5) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96813 (owner: 10Aude) [20:06:24] aude: Looks like it's going to work... I'm just going to eat something, then I'll test and merge it probably :) [20:06:34] ok [20:06:37] * aude might go home [20:06:42] it's fine to wait an hour or so [20:06:58] Wont need that much to eat smth ;) [20:07:03] ok [20:09:57] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Move quantity data type out of experimental [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96816 (owner: 10Aude) [20:12:45] Hi all…I’m trying to figure out the structure of places in the US, http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/tree.html?q=852446&rp=279&method=list — I’m really not understanding what the intended/expected subclass organization is. Can anyone point me in the right direction? [20:13:07] “the structure of places in the US” →within wikidata, that is. [20:14:18] Like, most of the county-level places are “county of [State]”, but then there’s a bunch that are under “Local government of [State]” or “Administrative Divisions of [State]” [20:14:50] Is there any logic to that, or is it just something that needs cleanup? [20:15:25] And if the latter…how should it be cleaned up? [20:15:53] hawke_1: i suggest to ask on project chat [20:16:10] i don't know if things are consistent know or at least it's incomplete [20:16:14] now* [20:17:36] “project chat”? [20:18:24] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat [20:18:30] errr [20:18:37] …which lists this IRC channel as project chat. ;-) [20:18:41] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat (with https) [20:18:54] true :) [20:19:15] * aude back in a while [20:32:43] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Fix property parser function, when property label not resolved [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96792 (owner: 10Aude) [20:40:56] (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] "Already merged on master" [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.23-wmf5) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96814 (owner: 10Aude) [20:41:43] (03CR) 10Hoo man: Fix property parser function, when property label not resolved (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96792 (owner: 10Aude) [20:48:12] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix property parser function, when property label not resolved [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.23-wmf5) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96814 (owner: 10Aude) [20:49:47] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase#1252 (mw1.23-wmf5 - b14df3d : aude): The build passed. [20:49:47] [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/compare/fc08c40c5e05...b14df3d5977f [20:49:47] [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/14330877 [20:50:04] lazowik: Lydia_WMDE: how do you like the logo for the DataValues thing on GH? https://github.com/DataValues [20:50:20] :D [20:50:50] JeroenDeDauw: though for me it looks as if nyan was transparent [20:51:06] and just happend to be travelling across the wikipedia logo [20:52:07] huh [20:52:09] JeroenDeDauw: you can always "attach" parts of him to wikipedia logo… [20:52:12] :p [20:52:27] lazowik: feel free to make a moar awesome nyandata logo [20:52:38] heh [20:52:46] when I have time, why not [20:52:51] (when I have time…) [20:54:29] thanks JeroenDeDauw and hoo :) [20:54:58] :) [22:00:45] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase#1256 (mw1.23-wmf5 - 26c596f : aude): The build passed. [22:00:45] [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/compare/b14df3d5977f...26c596f3e001 [22:00:45] [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/14333168 [22:39:52] yay to quantities! [22:41:59] :D [22:42:10] we are still missing formatters, so they don't look awesome yet [22:42:47] Lydia_WMDE can provide more detail about what's there and what not yet [22:43:55] well, i entered a number :) [22:43:59] that is pretty cool [22:44:15] \o/ [22:47:58] aude: Change is live on test2? [22:48:27] hoo: yes and test.wikidata [22:48:50] life and kicking [22:48:56] i made a test quantity propert [22:49:06] forgive my boring naming scheme [22:50:13] hoo: parser function seems fine [22:51:29] aude: mh... the diff says +-1, but the view doesn't have that tolerance... mssing formatters? [22:51:48] hoo: formatters are *very* basic [22:52:01] known issue [22:52:07] better basic than nothing :) [22:52:14] yep [22:52:22] also doesn't handle localisation well yet [22:57:22] (CR) Reedy: [C: 2] Enable quantity data type for test.wikidata [operations/mediawiki-config] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96817 (owner: Aude) [22:57:24] :-) [22:57:54] :D [22:58:58] * hoo waves at James_F :D [22:59:12] Hey from UTC for once. [22:59:27] James_F: Oh... in the UK? [22:59:46] hoo: Yeah. [23:00:12] alright, wikidata looks the same on special:newproperty [23:00:17] Damn... I should get the bazillion things done for tomorrow... [23:00:18] no mistakes :) [23:00:33] * hoo still needs to pack stuff, do some paper mess, answer emails, ... [23:01:12] hmmm, the wikicon thing... [23:01:24] * aude wish i knew german well enough to attend [23:01:51] aude: Yeah, would be nice... we're having an ask the developer [23:02:05] and Lydia and I are going to talk about Wikidata, ofc [23:02:06] i'll be attending wikiconf usa! [23:02:12] in the spring [23:06:25] https://test.wikidata.org/wiki/Q237 [23:06:50] aude: mh :) /me confirmed the architecture summit flights today [23:06:58] yay :D [23:07:01] Lydia_WMDE: fyi, https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures [23:07:06] enabled everywhere now [23:07:13] so we will be able to use it [23:07:25] hoo: yay [23:07:29] aude: \o/ [23:07:29] New messages [23:07:29] 3:04:28 PM <+TC-RC-Bot> [[Wikidata:Project chat]]; Lydia Pintscher (WMDE); /* Quantities datatype available for testing */ new section; https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?diff=88462717&oldid=88456984&rcid=88616831 [23:07:38] is some CSS missing for betafeatures? [23:07:54] this is what i see: http://cl.ly/image/1a1J0h1T2M3R [23:07:55] legoktm: looks ok to me, you may need to refresh cache [23:08:07] hrm [23:08:14] nope, still not working [23:08:33] hmmmm, i see [23:08:42] fourth time is the charm. [23:08:49] looks fine now [23:08:52] that was weird though [23:09:01] quantities in test \o/ [23:09:08] I bloody love all of you \o/ [23:09:31] :) [23:09:35] * aude blames the caches [23:12:47] Sannita: :D [23:13:07] Lydia_WMDE: see my comment at PC [23:14:11] JD|cloud: seen it already - my gut reaction is that we shouldn't do that just like we don't for the rest in the software [23:15:42] https://twitter.com/JeroenDeDauw/status/403660999602868225/photo/1/large :D [23:16:38] :D [23:16:51] JD|cloud: that'd be another case for constraint violation reports and so on [23:17:21] JD|cloud: i do however intend for us to spent time on improving property pages and storing constraints [23:17:46] * JD|cloud also is wondering how the uncertainties are determined [23:17:51] and with that i go and finish watching criminal minds and then sleep - need to get up early tomorrow [23:19:39] Lydia_WMDE I hear this vicious rumour about you liking criminal minds .... dangerous knowledge that is [23:20:17] GerardM-: love the actors ;-) [23:20:43] yeah yeah ... [23:20:56] actors ... those who do things [23:21:38] by the way enjoy and happy dreams [23:26:26] foo bar baz [23:26:37] * JeroenDeDauw just broke SMW installation... [23:27:00] And it's fixed again \o/ [23:51:20] For the administrative area types 'city', 'town', 'village': Should those be used based on population or on government type? Or neither? [23:54:25] The descriptions of those 3 suggest population [23:55:44] …But they’re very vague in the population requirements. [23:58:21] They are relatively vague, yeah, although much less than they used to be :)