[06:41:55] It's fine to use Property:P180 for the subject of a movie, right? [06:43:20] for instance in https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q103474, (2001, a space odyssey), I added "depicts -> space exploration and artificial intelligence" [06:46:27] seems fine to me [06:51:25] ok [09:15:25] Have the bots already been moved here? When the bots are moved, I'd close the other channel today. [09:25:58] Barras2: i think so [09:26:08] the other bot is not essential and volunteer-run [09:28:36] oh, we never killed wm-bot in the other channel... hope that's ok [09:28:57] Then find someone to kill it please ;-) [09:29:09] I've no idea by whom the bots are run [09:29:52] I've set the channel now +if, when there will be much further chats I'll +m it to force people to use the new channel. [09:29:57] ok [09:35:54] hmm #wikimedia- already killed? [09:36:02] "Error(473): #wikimedia-wikidata Cannot join channel (+i) - you must be invited" [09:36:40] just now [09:39:53] there is wm-bot3? [09:40:34] aude: yeah, we have wm-bot3 here, we just need to remove wm-bot from the old one [09:40:53] k [09:40:55] we could always kickban it, but i don't think the people that run it would be very happy XD [09:44:46] @help [09:44:46] I am running http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WM-Bot version wikimedia bot v. 1.20.2.0 my source code is licensed under GPL and located at https://github.com/benapetr/wikimedia-bot I will be very happy if you fix my bugs or implement new features [09:44:52] :) [10:33:45] (03CR) 10Lbenedix: added language selector to specialEntitiesWithoutPage.php (036 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95832 (owner: 10Lbenedix) [10:34:21] (03PS4) 10Lbenedix: added language selector to specialEntitiesWithoutPage.php [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95832 [10:34:44] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] added language selector to specialEntitiesWithoutPage.php [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95832 (owner: 10Lbenedix) [11:14:36] (03PS5) 10Lbenedix: added language selector to specialEntitiesWithoutPage.php [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95832 [11:20:06] (03PS6) 10Lbenedix: added language selector to specialEntitiesWithoutPage.php [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95832 [11:24:13] (03PS7) 10Lbenedix: added language selector to specialEntitiesWithoutPage.php [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95832 [11:41:06] (03PS1) 10Aude: Ensure mPreparedEdit in WikiPage gets cleared it is set [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95855 [11:41:25] (03PS2) 10Aude: Ensure mPreparedEdit in WikiPage gets cleared it is set [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95855 [11:43:49] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Ensure mPreparedEdit in WikiPage gets cleared if set [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95855 (owner: 10Aude) [11:51:18] aude: thank you! [11:51:31] :) [11:51:38] Finally my USB graphics (DisplayLink) works out of the box on Fedora ... /me going to order another screen today \o/ [11:51:48] i hope aaron / daniel or someone can review soon [11:56:04] aude: I'm not totally into that, but can't we set like an isMutable function on the content object and check for that in core? [11:56:28] extend the ContentHandler to handle this, w/o dirty hacks [11:56:53] we cold [11:56:55] could [11:57:06] i considered it [12:00:48] aude: What made you decide against it? [12:01:59] it might involve more complex changes in WikiPage [12:02:20] probably [12:02:50] maybe we could revert the original change for now and do that mid term? [12:02:52] my change keeps the changes minimal, to how it was before [12:05:33] i do wonder if there are other cases where the prepared edit needs to be cleared, though [12:06:05] mh [12:06:42] anyway, i am out for a while [12:06:57] can look more later if there can be a better solution [12:08:32] WikitextContent::replaceSection [12:08:47] addSectionHeader [12:08:50] that might be a problem [12:33:43] (03PS8) 10Lbenedix: added language selector to specialEntitiesWithoutPage.php [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95832 [12:55:31] EditPage.php|1367 M| The method internalAttemptSave() has an NPath complexity of 39359250432000. The configured NPath complexity threshold is 200. [12:55:34] :o [13:22:49] aude: yeah, core [13:28:36] * aude doesn't even know what number that is, gazillion something :) [13:29:05] EditPage sucks, badly... [13:29:15] yeah, though difficult to change [13:31:34] NPath complexity is number of possible results? [13:33:13] 39 tillion is a lot... [13:33:47] it's how many different possible paths through the function [13:33:49] http://www.codingswag.com/2013/05/cyclomatic-and-npath-complexity-explained/ [13:35:43] "Simple code is always better than complex code. This applies to areas as readability, maintainability and testability" [13:40:54] it would be quite the challenge to have unit tests cover all the possibilities of edit page [13:41:18] you only need 39359250432000 unit tests ;) [13:41:43] hah [13:50:00] @info [13:50:00] http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/dump/%23wikidata.htm [13:50:34] !ask is https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Ask [13:50:34] This key already exist - remove it, if you want to change it [13:54:50] addshore: can you have a look at: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/95832/ [13:57:10] (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 04-1] added language selector to specialEntitiesWithoutPage.php (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95832 (owner: 10Lbenedix) [13:57:17] did a tiny style review [13:57:27] cant test it as I dont actually have my laptop here right now [13:57:34] will do so later or on monday [= [13:57:41] great [14:14:33] (03PS9) 10Lbenedix: added language selector to specialEntitiesWithoutPage.php [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95832 [15:34:01] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 04-1] Ensure mPreparedEdit in WikiPage gets cleared if set (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95855 (owner: 10Aude) [15:49:19] JeroenDeDauw, wda/includes/datafetcher.py:218 -retrieve +maxrevSource ? [15:51:46] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 04-1] added language selector to specialEntitiesWithoutPage.php (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95832 (owner: 10Lbenedix) [15:52:30] JeroenDeDauw: I didn't want to make a too big change this time [15:53:20] so I  adapted the existing code for the type-selector [16:22:52] (03CR) 10Hoo man: "I guess we can abandon this?" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/94794 (owner: 10Lbenedix) [16:58:37] (03PS3) 10Aude: Ensure mPreparedEdit in WikiPage gets cleared if set [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95855 [17:00:32] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Ensure mPreparedEdit in WikiPage gets cleared if set [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95855 (owner: 10Aude) [17:02:19] hi, ಕನ್ನಡ (Kannada) is appearing as ಕನ್ನದ on language list on English wiki. May I know where I can get this sorted or is it a bug of some sort? [17:27:36] TomT0m: ?? [17:27:55] lbenedix: what are you talking about? [17:28:13] about the comment you made on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95832 [17:41:57] lbenedix: It is not a bigger change then you are already making... [17:42:16] The difference is really that instead of making the code a little worse, you make it a little better [17:42:52] and a little inconsitent [17:43:44] lbenedix: how so? In that this code will be in a sane method wile the rest is not? ;p [17:43:54] exactly [17:44:05] lbenedix: that is the good kind of inconsistency [17:44:22] lbenedix: though if you want to fix it, and clean up the other code as well, by all means go ahead :D [17:49:31] what about the actual selected value? as a parameter or is $this->foobar okay within the function? [17:53:06] (03PS10) 10Lbenedix: added language selector to specialEntitiesWithoutPage.php [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95832 [18:16:35] JeroenDeDauw, there is a bug on wda, the wikidata rdf & co export [19:10:20] hello :) [19:13:20] For https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P166 [19:13:24] When it concerns a movie award, can we indicate for which movie? [19:17:09] with a qualifier, probably [19:17:30] I don't know which one though [19:19:11] That's what I thought, but I don't know which to choose :) [19:20:04] Unfortunately, there is nothing interesting on the discussion page of the property [19:22:01] Okki, try to find another similar item to see if someone set the example [19:23:09] or ask on project chat [19:26:27] ok :) [19:26:33] Another question [19:26:35] If there is a developer in the corner, a feature about which I dream, that MediaWiki tells us when we are about to submit a declaration already present, which is a stupid and unnecessary duplication [19:29:53] Okki, go to paper cuts page on WIkidata for your feature request [19:32:40] do you have an idea why there are allmost no sources added by humans? [19:33:05] I think it is because its quite a lot of clicks and confusion [19:33:29] the list of properties is not reduced [19:40:03] Sometimes I add sources, but on frwiki we are less picky about that than enwiki, and we don't have sources for a lot of things :) [19:41:03] sources in wikidata are important to decide if a statement is trustworthy [19:41:37] I don't source because it takes too much time [19:41:55] and I think "imported from wikipedia" is a rather bad source [19:42:36] btw. I found a little bug in the property-selector: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4xYh8S35tY [19:42:49] if you click "more" it scrolls up to the inputfield [19:43:00] lbenedix, we need a gadget and an easy way to create source items [19:46:22] When the source is a website, we must know that it is necessary to choose the url property + http link, but when it comes to a book, very often missing, it is more necessary to have the motivation to create it [19:46:23] and probably mass import sources used by wikipedia [20:00:22] addshore: deleted ALL of the crappy code https://coveralls.io/r/DataValues/Common?branch=master [20:18:46] (03PS4) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Ensure mPreparedEdit in WikiPage gets cleared if set [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95855 (owner: 10Aude) [20:19:30] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Ensure mPreparedEdit in WikiPage gets cleared if set. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95855 (owner: 10Aude) [20:19:45] So Wikibase now depends on MW 1.23 [20:19:48] ugh [20:23:06] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Ensure mPreparedEdit in WikiPage gets cleared if set. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95855 (owner: 10Aude) [20:37:51] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase#1222 (master - 37d94f6 : Translation updater bot): The build is still failing. [20:37:51] [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/compare/8366414993bd...37d94f66b763 [20:37:51] [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/14109563 [20:39:21] TomT0m: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Paper_cuts#Duplicate_statements :) [20:39:46] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 031] "Guess the behaviour actually changed now?" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95855 (owner: 10Aude) [20:56:09] addshore: you can haz the honour: https://github.com/wmde/Ask/pull/1 [20:58:10] i can not :O [21:03:12] (03PS5) 10Aude: Ensure mPreparedEdit in WikiPage gets cleared if set. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95855 [21:03:42] (03CR) 10Aude: "it still needs $page->clear() in addition to clearPreparedEdit()" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95855 (owner: 10Aude) [21:08:48] [travis-ci] wmde/Ask#13 (1.0 - a4d8c9e : addshore): The build passed. [21:08:48] [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/wmde/Ask/compare/1.0 [21:08:48] [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wmde/Ask/builds/14111142 [21:44:14] addshore: can you proofread? http://www.bn2vs.com/blog/2013/11/17/ask-1-0-released/ [21:57:33] exciting JeroenDeDauw [21:58:33] GerardM-: well, still a bit off from queries in WD. This lib has esentially been ready for months, but we are blocked on some lame deployment stuff [21:59:21] I know about such things ... Universal Language Selector started to die a silent death as well for almost a year [21:59:50] did you install Magnus's hack for search results ? [22:00:03] it has been updated ... it is quite interesting [22:00:19] GerardM-: me personally? no. It indeed looks quite interesting yes [22:00:40] he added a direct link to Commons and to the Wikipedias [22:00:59] effectively you can search for picturres [23:14:26] hello [23:15:48] hello billy__ [23:56:07] hows wiki studies work?