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[04:09:37] <PiRSquared>	 Jasper_Deng: any comment on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#General_questions_about_scope_of_country_items ?
[08:02:16] <GerardM->	 http://www.slideshare.net/GerardMe/wikidata-workshop this is the presentation I am about to give
[12:08:12] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Addshore: Fix travis irc channel [extensions/WikibaseQuery] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95775 
[12:09:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Addshore: [V: 032] Fix travis irc channel [extensions/WikibaseQuery] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95775 (owner: 10Addshore)
[12:09:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Fix travis irc channel [extensions/WikibaseQuery] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95775 (owner: 10Addshore)
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[12:10:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] "how did i miss this one?" [extensions/WikibaseQuery] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95775 (owner: 10Addshore)
[12:11:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [V: 032] Fix travis irc channel [extensions/WikibaseQuery] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95775 (owner: 10Addshore)
[12:11:09] <addshore>	 morning aude :P
[12:11:12] <aude>	 moin
[12:11:22] <addshore>	 see also https://github.com/wmde/Serialization/pull/1
[12:11:32] <addshore>	 and https://github.com/wmde/WikibaseDatabase/pull/7
[12:11:33] <aude>	 ahhhhh
[12:11:42] * aude  not used to github workflow

[12:12:02] <addshore>	 just click the merge pull requests button ;p
[12:12:08] * aude  reviewing matmarex code

[12:12:17] <aude>	 yah
[12:12:40] <addshore>	 really weird but the two Ask module were already pointint to this channel :P
[12:13:21] <aude>	 if i click https://github.com/dashboard/pulls
[12:13:33] <aude>	 it doesn't show anything other than my requiests
[12:13:37] <aude>	 requests*
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[12:14:22] <addshore>	 ..
[12:14:50] <addshore>	 pah
[12:15:22] <aude>	 where do i see *all* pull requests?
[12:15:23] <addshore>	 aude: Im not really sure where to look either to be honest :P
[12:15:39] <aude>	 i can look at each project
[12:15:49] <addshore>	 https://github.com/dashboard/pulls/public ?
[12:16:20] <aude>	 no pull requests there
[12:16:31] <aude>	 those are if people submit things for my stuff :)
[12:16:31] <addshore>	 I think if you follow / star a repo then it comes up in the elft ahnd list on the dashboard
[12:16:47] <aude>	 ok
[12:16:56] <addshore>	 oh actually.. no it doesnt...
[12:17:46] <aude>	 wtf, https://github.com/wmde/AskSerialization ?
[12:17:54] <addshore>	 no idea :P
[12:19:12] <addshore>	 im secretly hiding in the office for the day :) get some stuff done ;p
[12:20:04] <aude>	 i don't think i have permission to approve https://github.com/wmde/Serialization/pull/1
[12:20:07] <aude>	 :D
[12:22:22] <aude>	 alright, back to matmarex code :)
[12:23:57] <aude>	 \o/ https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/95774/
[12:24:13] <addshore>	 :P
[12:24:31] <addshore>	 I thought it was worth a try
[12:24:37] <addshore>	 I have expanded the status tests also
[12:24:55] <aude>	 yay!
[13:02:54] <Steinsplitter>	 hi, a bot operator online?
[13:03:22] <Steinsplitter>	 ping:addshore
[13:03:33] <addshore>	 pong
[13:03:36] <addshore>	 whats up?
[13:07:25] <Steinsplitter>	 we need a bot to importing interwikis to wd and cleaning up interwikis on commons (for the Commons:* , Help:* namespace for now)
[13:08:32] <Steinsplitter>	 not sure, maby som users hav a bot for doing such things *g*
[13:37:04] <multichill>	 aude: Enabled https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Coordinates_tracking today for the Dutch Wikipedia
[13:37:19] <aude>	 yay!
[13:37:29] <multichill>	 Would be nice to get it working in more languages
[13:37:37] <multichill>	 Makes it much easier to find items to work on
[13:39:15] <aude>	 can we have a category for pages (with coordinates) where the coordinates should go on some property other than p625?
[13:39:41] <aude>	 e.g. burial locations, which are something else or a qualifier.... or headquarters locations
[13:39:57] <multichill>	 I guess so, should probably be the next step
[13:40:04] <aude>	 k
[13:40:19] <multichill>	 I'm not sure if we even have that kind of locations on the Dutch Wikipedia
[13:40:21] <aude>	 i've been trying to put coordinates only appropariate stuff
[13:40:29] <aude>	 no idea
[13:40:29] <multichill>	 or it probably uses a different template
[13:40:42] <aude>	 not sure
[13:41:16] <multichill>	 https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sjabloon:Co%C3%B6rdinaten is only for top right coordinates
[13:41:22] <multichill>	 Not for inline
[13:41:23] <aude>	 geodata extension takes all coordinates
[13:41:27] <aude>	 ok
[13:41:38] <multichill>	 https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sjabloon:Co%C3%B6rdinaten#Overzicht_alternatieve_sjablonen contains a load of different templates to use
[13:41:50] <aude>	 hmmmm, ok
[13:43:11] <multichill>	 Looks like it boils down to two templates: One for in title bar (the one I updated) and one for in the text
[13:43:20] <multichill>	 Rest are just aliases/converter templates
[13:43:54] <aude>	 ok
[13:44:52] <multichill>	 So https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Coord should probably be updated with an if title -> add tracker category
[13:45:41] <multichill>	 {{#switch:{{{display}} bla die bla
[13:46:32] * aude  not touching the template, at least not without testing in test2 or some place

[13:47:10] <multichill>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module:Coordinates <<- yikes
[13:48:15] <aude>	 yeah, need to practice on test2 :)
[14:09:19] <addshore>	 dennyvrandecic around? :)
[14:22:55] <Pratyya>	 rschen7754:  you there?
[14:29:20] <JohnLewis>	 Pratyya: I assume Rschen is not.
[14:29:46] * aude  brain is exploding, looking at core code

[14:29:50] <Revi>	 He went to bed few hours ago
[14:30:03] <Pratyya>	 yes. Anyway can you tell me what's the work of Module space? JohnLewis ?
[14:30:23] <JohnLewis>	 Pratyya: For use with Srcibunto Lua modules.
[14:30:43] <JohnLewis>	 aude: If that explodes your brain, wait for the post I am just about to make at PC :p
[14:31:25] <aude>	 :)
[15:07:54] <multichill>	 JohnLewis: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_comment/Commons_links turned out to be a big waste of time. Now way that the dev team is going to implement Point III anytime soon
[15:08:10] <multichill>	 if they are ever going to implement it. It complete breaks the data model
[15:10:48] <lazowik>	 aude: got accustomed to good code? :p
[15:13:22] <aude>	 hah
[15:15:02] <hoo>	 still few people here, compared to #wikimedia-wikidata :/
[15:15:46] <aude>	 everyone will be here soon
[15:16:12] <AndorraLaVella_>	 well, the move is quite unnecessary
[15:16:49] <JohnLewis>	 multichill: Indeed.
[15:17:41] <multichill>	 The only thing clear is that we don't want to link Wikipedia articles with Commons categories.
[15:18:10] <Pyb>	 which is the only solution :D
[15:18:11] * aude  asks Lydia_WMDE for unicorns :D

[15:19:18] <hoo>	 aude: Did you talk about label fallbacks yesterday?
[15:19:28] <hoo>	 Sadly /me couldn't really be here
[15:19:30] <aude>	 hoo: no
[15:19:42] <hoo>	 mh :/ Lydia wanted to bring that up
[15:20:05] <aude>	 she is sick or was sick yesterday
[15:20:08] <aude>	 not at office
[15:20:46] <hoo>	 ah, I see
[15:21:43] <hoo>	 heh, I already feared you people screwed the idea because no bug was opened for it :D
[15:21:52] <aude>	 alright, time to get food :)
[15:22:09] <hoo>	 guten Appetit, aude ;)
[16:46:14] <JeroenDeDauw>	 addshore: http://pastebin.com/ne6TtRc3 comments?
[16:46:49] <JeroenDeDauw>	 addshore: the last two groups are sort of misfits... the validators one at least is cohesive... the "common" one is not at all
[16:48:00] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Could call it data-values/misfits
[16:48:02] <addshore>	 JeroenDeDauw: looks good
[16:48:06] <addshore>	 haha
[16:48:27] <addshore>	 data-values/ihasnohome
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[16:58:16] <JohnLewis>	 JeroenDeDauw :O how could you break the WikibaseQuery!
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[16:59:27] <JeroenDeDauw>	 JohnLewis: it is not really broken, just our test setup is
[16:59:32] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Since yesterday already
[17:00:33] <addshore>	 JeroenDeDauw: is always breaking things ;p
[17:00:54] <JohnLewis>	 JeroenDeDauw: Shall I blame addshore? The Bringer of ALL tests?  :p
[17:01:31] <addshore>	 JeroenDeDauw: is the bringer of all tests ;p
[17:02:26] <JohnLewis>	 addshore: Every time you do something, it always involves tests or phpunit :p
[17:02:48] <addshore>	 i blame JeroenDeDauw for that ;p
[17:15:42] <JeroenDeDauw>	 well, that blame is welcome, as it means I'm doing my job well
[17:21:49] <lazowik>	 JohnLewis: nah, he aslo reviews patches!
[17:22:15] <JohnLewis>	 lazowik: We are talking about the same addshore right? :p
[17:22:28] <lazowik>	 though
[17:23:58] <lazowik>	 his comments mostly look like "All of the tests look lovely in here! +11!!!"
[17:24:00] <lazowik>	 :p
[17:24:17] <lazowik>	 JohnLewis: yeah, definately the same one
[17:25:09] <JohnLewis>	 Yeah :p
[17:53:47] <lbenedix>	 hoo: can you tell me where the api sandbox inputboxes are defined?
[17:55:02] <lbenedix>	 there is a select-box with the lang-codes
[17:55:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Aude: Fix composer.json [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95792 
[17:55:40] <hoo>	 lbenedix: Sorry, can you give me more details? I'm not sure what you need/ wnat
[17:56:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Aude: Fix composer.json [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95793 
[17:57:16] <hoo>	 aude: Are these dependencies?
[17:57:48] <lbenedix>	 Just want to know where in wikibase are the inputs for the ApiSandbox defined
[17:58:07] <aude>	 hoo: ?
[17:58:21] <hoo>	 lbenedix: In the PHP class for each API-module (or in the parents)
[17:58:27] <hoo>	 aude: These vcs repos
[17:58:39] <aude>	 jeroen has made his own data values for SMW
[17:58:51] <aude>	 we need to point to the one on gerrit for now
[17:59:00] <hoo>	 He forked?
[17:59:19] <hoo>	 I see http://getcomposer.org/doc/05-repositories.md#vcs
[17:59:29] <aude>	 something like that
[17:59:41] <aude>	 we'll be splitting the one in gerrit into multiple pieces
[17:59:55] <aude>	 but can't move as fast as he likes
[18:00:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Fix composer.json [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95793 (owner: 10Aude)
[18:00:18] <aude>	 wtf
[18:00:18] <lbenedix>	 another question is, where in wikibase can I define what languages I want to allow for labels and stuff
[18:00:54] <aude>	 Wikibase\Test\ItemContentTest::testRepeatedSave is broken?
[18:01:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hoo man: "Yay for unrelated test failures, also" (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95793 (owner: 10Aude)
[18:01:06] <hoo>	 aude: mh
[18:01:25] <aude>	 and pile of "UsageException: Could not find the claim"
[18:01:34] <hoo>	 lbenedix: uh, so you want to eg. have a repo where people can't create labels in say German?
[18:02:04] <lbenedix>	 why not?
[18:02:08] <lbenedix>	 or only german
[18:02:17] <hoo>	 I doubt we support that, do we?
[18:02:19] <hoo>	 aude: ^
[18:02:34] <lbenedix>	 or only klingon
[18:02:38] <aude>	 hoo: http://getcomposer.org/doc/05-repositories.md#loading-a-package-from-a-vcs-repository
[18:02:42] <hoo>	 I'm going to run the master unit tests locally... Maria or SQLite? (or both)
[18:03:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: Fix composer.json (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95793 (owner: 10Aude)
[18:03:18] <hoo>	 Ah, I see
[18:04:30] <aude>	 maybe not ideal, but having composer point ot gerrit might make it easier to use via jenkins etc
[18:04:49] <aude>	 if jenkins can't access github
[18:05:05] <hoo>	 ewk, my auto install in my test VM is broken
[18:05:06] <hoo>	 gnah
[18:05:11] <lbenedix>	 here is the lang-selector I talk about: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:ApiSandbox#action=wbsetlabel&format=json&language=fa
[18:05:14] <hoo>	 PHP Fatal error:  Uncaught exception 'Exception' with message 'WikibaseLib depends on the Wikibase DataModel extension.' in /dev/shm/MediaWikiMySQL/extensions/Wikibase/lib/WikibaseLib.php:109
[18:05:15] <aude>	 :)
[18:05:16] <aude>	 :(
[18:05:20] <aude>	 errr, rather 
[18:05:26] <lbenedix>	 this must get the available languages from anywhere...
[18:05:29] <hoo>	 doh, should have fetched taht change :P
[18:05:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 04-1] Fix composer.json (031 comment) [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95792 (owner: 10Aude)
[18:06:41] <lazowik>	 lbenedix: I'd wait a sec, looks like they're busy
[18:07:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 04-1] "How do you figure this is needed? The wikibase/data-model package points to the same location as the override added here." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95793 (owner: 10Aude)
[18:07:45] <hoo>	 aude: doh... now I'm getting failures with WikibaseDataModel.git
[18:08:11] <hoo>	 my travis like VM solely relies on composer to install deps... bad decision maybe
[18:08:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Aude: Fix composer.json [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95792 
[18:09:24] <hoo>	 aude: Over there you don't have require towards DataTypes
[18:10:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: "If my changes in data model are enough, then great and this is not needed. This was at least needed for me to test" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95793 (owner: 10Aude)
[18:11:09] <aude>	 hmmmm
[18:11:45] <hoo>	 I can merge it, though... but I'm not sure about that after all
[18:12:01] <aude>	 one sec
[18:12:06] <aude>	 i think you are reight about data types
[18:12:08] <aude>	 right*
[18:12:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Aude: Fix composer.json [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95792 
[18:13:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] "Looks sane" [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95792 (owner: 10Aude)
[18:13:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix composer.json [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95792 (owner: 10Aude)
[18:13:22] <aude>	 thanks
[18:13:30] * aude  tries it again

[18:13:36] <hoo>	 I'm not very happy with all these github vs. gerrit things lately :/
[18:14:46] <hoo>	   [RuntimeException]                                                                                                       
[18:14:46] <hoo>	   Failed to clone ://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/p/mediawiki/extensions/WikibaseDataModel.git, could not read packages from it                                                                         
[18:14:46] <hoo>	   fatal: I don't handle protocol ''   
[18:14:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 04-1] "also has typo" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95793 (owner: 10Aude)
[18:15:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Abandoned) 10Aude: Fix composer.json [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95793 (owner: 10Aude)
[18:15:59] <aude>	 where?
[18:16:37] <aude>	 it worked this time, pulling master of everything and then composer install
[18:16:49] <hoo>	 [tests@localhost Wikibase]$ php composer.phar  install
[18:17:05] <hoo>	 on wikibase master
[18:18:02] <aude>	 are you on my (now abandoned) patch?
[18:18:05] <aude>	 that had a typo
[18:18:18] <aude>	 just get master wikibase and it should work
[18:19:01] <hoo>	 mh
[18:19:21] * hoo  tries it again with Wikibase master (without the now abandoned change)

[18:19:56] <hoo>	 looks good now
[18:20:46] <hoo>	 Yep, it installed cleanly now :) Running the unit tests on master now (with MariaDB)
[18:20:49] <aude>	 yay
[18:21:48] <hoo>	 the performance of my Notebook totally sucks with VMs... I could need a fast desktop at times :P
[18:30:45] <hoo>	 I see a lot of failures on master right now... -.-
[18:32:29] * aude  sighs

[18:55:24] <hoo>	 FAILURES!
[18:55:24] <hoo>	 Tests: 4274, Assertions: 24243, Failures: 3, Errors: 9, Incomplete: 18, Skipped: 19.
[18:56:46] <hoo>	 aude: same errors jenkins was crying about
[18:59:36] <lbenedix>	 I have a rather basic php question... is it possible to make this less redundant code: http://pastebin.com/v12uTa2h
[19:00:46] <lbenedix>	 I create a Mediawki Html-object and want to set one attribute only if a condition is true
[19:01:03] <hoo>	 lbenedix: Sure
[19:01:43] <lbenedix>	 the 'selected' attribute has no value
[19:02:08] <aude>	 i can look in minute
[19:04:33] <hoo>	 lbenedix: array( 'value' => $langCode ) + ($langCode === $this->language ? array( 'selected' => 'selected' ) : array())
[19:04:39] <hoo>	 that can give you the right array
[19:04:55] <hoo>	 of course you should format that code a bit :P Sending lines on IRC sucks
[19:05:51] <lbenedix>	 thx
[19:09:19] <lbenedix>	 do you think this will get through the review: http://ablb.sagitta.uberspace.de/mediawiki/index.php?title=Special%3AEntitiesWithoutLabel
[19:09:51] <lbenedix>	 one problem I see is that I change the Label, I dont know how the translation process works
[19:09:57] <hoo>	 lbenedix: That looks good :)
[19:10:18] <hoo>	 Any chance we could have it show language names instead of codes?
[19:10:35] <lbenedix>	 I have no idea... siteselector :D
[19:10:39] <lbenedix>	 I use Utils::getLanguageCodes() 
[19:13:43] <hoo>	 lbenedix: Why don't you use MediaWiki's Language class direclty?
[19:13:54] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Html:: and Utils:: are both such lovely piles of static code
[19:13:55] <hoo>	 \Language::getLanguageNames
[19:14:05] <JeroenDeDauw>	 That one as well yes
[19:14:12] <hoo>	 that will get you all langs. indexed by lang. codes
[19:14:30] <lbenedix>	 but I want only the languagecodes accepted by the wikibase install
[19:14:33] <hoo>	 JeroenDeDauw: It's not really better, but it's at least not our mess(TM)
[19:15:12] <hoo>	 lbenedix: Wikibase takes all languages that will return you, we don't have functionality to "disable" langs
[19:15:47] <lbenedix>	 so I cant make a klingon only wikibase?
[19:16:01] <hoo>	 I don't think so :P
[19:16:21] <lbenedix>	 not so universal... 
[19:16:26] <hoo>	 Unless you hack MediaWiki or wherever MediaWiki takes its langs. from
[19:19:49] <lbenedix>	 I have to go now, but I'll try to display Languagenames when I'm back
[19:20:20] <hoo>	 lbenedix: Great :)
[19:53:32] <DangSunM>	 Hello all?
[19:53:33] <DangSunM>	 bye!
[20:30:11] <hoo>	 aude: Still around?
[20:33:07] <aude>	 yep
[20:34:10] <hoo>	 aude: Is there still a bot running on WD that sets labels from page titles?
[20:34:42] <hoo>	 (Will the community kill us, if we remove the label support from linkItem completely)
[20:35:14] <aude>	 i have no idea
[20:35:50] <hoo>	 legoktm: ^
[20:35:53] <hoo>	 mh
[20:36:14] <hoo>	 aude: That was what I wanted to talk about with Lydia on Friday
[20:36:32] <liangent>	 hoo: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q15014867&curid=16682723&action=history ?
[20:36:37] <hoo>	 well, we talked about that on Thursday, but I wanted her to make that "official" (create bugs, ...)
[20:36:42] <Lydia_WMDE>	 hoo: yes there is
[20:36:49] <Lydia_WMDE>	 hoo: and i didn't yet get to the bug
[20:36:57] <Lydia_WMDE>	 it's not super urgent ;-)
[20:37:32] <hoo>	 Lydia_WMDE: I know, but I slightly fear that the Wikidatians will kill us if we start to create items w/o labels
[20:37:51] <Lydia_WMDE>	 send the torches my way
[20:37:56] <hoo>	 :D
[20:38:09] <hoo>	 Removing labels support was so easy... removing features always is fun :D
[20:38:24] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Hoo man: Overhaul jquery.wikibase.linkitem.js [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/94795 
[20:39:24] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Hoo man: Overhaul jquery.wikibase.linkitem.js [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/94795 
[20:40:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hoo man: "Completely removed the support for labels. This no longer fixes https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56410 (which will become a WONTFIX soon)." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/94795 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[20:42:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Overhaul jquery.wikibase.linkitem.js [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/94795 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[20:42:16] <hoo>	 Now we could almost use the wblinktitles api :P
[20:42:40] <hoo>	 damn failures
[20:43:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS6) 10Hoo man: Overhaul jquery.wikibase.linkitem.js [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/94795 
[20:46:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Overhaul jquery.wikibase.linkitem.js [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/94795 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[20:48:19] * aude  goes to look at the tests

[20:49:59] <hoo|away>	 \o/
[20:50:40] <aude>	 i have no idea why.... things passed earlier, though a bunch of core stuff has been merged today
[21:13:07] <DangSunM>	 @trusted
[21:13:07] <wm-bot>	 I trust:  .*@wikimedia/IWorld (2admin), .*@wikimedia/DangSunM (2admin), .*@quassel\.jefferai\.org (2admin), .*@unaffiliated/jeroendedauw (2admin), .*@wikipedia/Liangent (2trusted), .*@wikimedia/Vogone (2admin), .*@wikipedia/rschen7754 (2admin), .*@wikimedia/Hym411 (2admin),
[21:13:36] <legoktm>	 hoo|away: Hmmm, yeah, I don't think people will be very happy if items are created without labels.
[21:13:38] <legoktm>	 That said, writing a bot to do it should be easy
[21:25:10] <aude>	 hoo|away: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/95519/
[21:25:26] <aude>	 that appears to be interfering, at least with tests
[21:38:09] <hoo>	 aude: mh... revert?
[21:38:28] <aude>	 needs more investigating
[21:39:47] <hoo>	 Probably... a (core) unit test would be nice also
[21:41:17] <aude>	 yep
[21:52:29] <lbenedix>	 is there an order in the i18n file?
[21:52:52] <lbenedix>	 I'd like to add '(select value)'
[21:53:10] <hoo>	 lbenedix: mh, check whether we have that already first
[21:53:22] <lbenedix>	 I dont think so
[21:53:29] <lbenedix>	 its in the ApiSandbox i18n
[21:53:33] <hoo>	 and the message shouldn't include brackets, those can be taken from an extra message
[21:53:56] <lbenedix>	 http://ablb.sagitta.uberspace.de/mediawiki/index.php?title=Special%3AEntitiesWithoutLabel
[21:55:36] <lbenedix>	 btw. for the strings inside the select box... $languageName . ' (' . $languageCode . ')' seems not to be good for rtl langs
[21:56:25] <hoo>	 lbenedix: There are message for these kind of things (word separators and wrapping brackets)
[21:56:39] <lbenedix>	 oho
[21:56:48] <hoo>	 can't recall the exact spelling though, one sec
[21:57:31] <hoo>	 'word-separator' and 'parentheses'
[21:57:47] <hoo>	 'parentheses' is ($1), so you need to pass the content as argument
[21:57:55] <lbenedix>	 ?
[21:58:42] <legoktm>	 wfMessage('parenthesis')->params( $yourmessage )->plain()
[21:59:05] <legoktm>	 wfMessage('parentheses')->params(wfMessage('somekey')->parse())->plain()
[21:59:11] <lbenedix>	 so much code for two chars...
[21:59:16] <legoktm>	 something like that I think.
[22:00:12] <lbenedix>	 seems not to work
[22:00:15] <hoo>	 Wait, np
[22:00:17] <hoo>	 * no
[22:00:25] <hoo>	 I was wrong, taht's not going to actually help
[22:04:11] <lbenedix>	 I'll ask that in #mediawiki-i18n
[22:04:44] <hoo>	 Go ahead :) You could set dir on the individual elements...
[22:05:01] <lbenedix>	 I'm sure this is an allready solved problem
[22:05:16] <lbenedix>	 how is siteselector handling this?
[22:05:47] <lbenedix>	 the strings there are similar "Deutsch (dewiki)"
[22:07:25] <hoo>	 dunno, tbh
[22:07:42] <lbenedix>	 what about the (select value)
[22:07:55] <hoo>	 'label': site.getName() + ' (' + site.getId() + ')',
[22:07:57] <lbenedix>	 It would be consitent with the apisandbox
[22:08:23] <hoo>	 select value seems fine, although consistency with ApiSandbox isn't our #1 goal
[22:08:48] <lbenedix>	 my goal is improving the usability... being consistent is important
[22:09:20] <lbenedix>	 is there an order in the i18n file?
[22:09:55] <hoo>	 Yep, put it together with message for the same subject, or with the same prefix
[22:10:18] <hoo>	 just take a look at how it is currently and follow that pattern ;)
[22:10:23] <lbenedix>	 its kind of a generic message
[22:11:08] <hoo>	 Of course being consistent is important, but not neccassary with ApiSandbox ;)
[22:12:16] <lbenedix>	 I dont think a normal user knows about the extension clutter behind the facade
[22:13:55] <hoo>	 Surely, but hardly anyone uses ApiSandbox, we should rather be consistent with ourselves or core
[22:14:15] <hoo>	 core == MediaWiki
[22:14:15] <lbenedix>	 Can't find such a message in Core or Wikibase
[22:15:23] * lbenedix  uses ApiSandbox a lot

[22:15:39] <legoktm>	 hoo: lots of people use ApiSandbox!
[22:15:45] <legoktm>	 its really helpful for debugging
[22:16:02] <hoo>	 legoktm: I know, but not those are only a very small fraction of our users
[22:16:12] <legoktm>	 I guess.
[22:16:20] <hoo>	 while all of our users use Wikibase and MediaWiki :P
[22:16:35] <hoo>	 Maybe follow htmlform-chosen-placeholder?
[22:16:56] <hoo>	 lbenedix: ^
[22:20:40] <lbenedix>	 ok thx
[22:24:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Lbenedix: added language selector to specialEntitiesWithoutPage.php [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95832 
[22:28:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Lbenedix: added language selector to specialEntitiesWithoutPage.php [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95832 
[22:30:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Lbenedix: added language selector to specialEntitiesWithoutPage.php [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95832 
[22:30:35] <lbenedix>	 damn spaces... sorry!
[23:35:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 04-1] "Just some quick picks, untested" (036 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95832 (owner: 10Lbenedix)