[15:28:06] <AndreiPOP>	 hello Voidwalker! I sent an email to the staff account for this wiki asking for an account. Did anyone get it?
[15:29:13] <Voidwalker>	 let me check
[15:30:03] <AndreiPOP>	 Voidwalker: thank you
[15:30:15] <Voidwalker>	 seems I'm the first one to see it, doing now
[15:31:59] <Voidwalker>	 AndreiPOP, done, check your email for the account details
[15:32:40] <AndreiPOP>	 Voidwalker: thank you. I think there can be a lot of improvements to Test-Wiki, and I like the initiative
[15:33:54] <Voidwalker>	 uhh, mail just returned that the email is invalid, would you mind if I pm the temporary password?
[15:36:20] <AndreiPOP>	 invalid? how?
[15:36:26] <AndreiPOP>	 But sure, you can PM me if you want
[15:37:49] <Voidwalker>	 the mailer service returned 550 Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable
[15:45:57] <AndreiPOP>	 Voidwalker: my email was wrong indeed, I've now changed it to reflect the correct one. I have not received any mail though, neither in my Inbox or Spam folders
[15:48:24] <Voidwalker>	 looks like it should have sent with no issues
[15:50:24] <AndreiPOP>	 Voidwalker: ah, it worked the second time
[16:10:37] <TestWikiGitHub>	 [13phabricator-extensions] 15MacFan4000 pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02https://git.io/vQjoB
[16:10:37] <TestWikiGitHub>	 13phabricator-extensions/06master 14db71c11 15MacFan4000: Update
[16:14:53] <AndreiPOP>	 Voidwalker: I've made a few edits to existent pages on-wiki, I hope that's okay
[16:17:15] <AndreiPOP>	 I also plan on a few copy-edits and improvements for the LocalSettings.php file
[16:17:33] <Voidwalker>	 looks fine
[16:19:20] <TestWikiGitHub>	 [13phabricator-extensions] 15MacFan4000 pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02https://git.io/vQj6n
[16:19:20] <TestWikiGitHub>	 13phabricator-extensions/06master 140317bce 15MacFan4000: fix
[16:26:49] <TestWikiGitHub>	 [13mediawiki] 15AndreiPOP1 opened pull request #1: style fixes (06REL1_29...06patch-1) 02https://git.io/vQjiM
[16:47:05] <AndreiPOP>	 MacFan4000: hello
[16:47:27] <MacFan4000>	 AndreiPOP: Hi
[16:48:17] <AndreiPOP>	 This is too early, but I'm wondering if you guys need an extra hand with the sysadmin work? Or if you might later.
[16:48:39] <AndreiPOP>	 I've made a few improvements on-wiki already, and an initial PR to the mediawiki repository to fix a few styling issues
[16:48:49] <AndreiPOP>	 and there's is also https://github.com/Test-Wiki/phabricator-extensions/issues/1 to be looked at
[16:52:15] <TestWikiGitHub>	 [13mediawiki] 15AndreiPOP1 opened pull request #2: Add Error log for CirrusSearch in order to debug error (06REL1_29...06patch-2) 02https://git.io/vQjMl
[16:52:19] <AndreiPOP>	 @MacFan4000 you disabled "issues"?
[16:52:24] <MacFan4000>	 1 sec
[16:52:46] <AndreiPOP>	 I didn't realize that you didn't have logging set up for this, so I've made a second pull request. I will perform the action again after so that you can check the logs.
[16:52:48] <AndreiPOP>	 Okay, I will wait
[16:59:46] <TestWikiGitHub>	 [13mediawiki] 15MacFan4000 closed pull request #2: Add Error log for CirrusSearch in order to debug error (06REL1_29...06patch-2) 02https://git.io/vQjMl
[17:00:02] <MacFan4000>	 Enabled issues
[17:00:39] <MacFan4000>	 Anyway we have phabricator for reporting things like that.
[17:01:02] <AndreiPOP>	 Oh, you do?
[17:01:14] <Voidwalker>	 https://phabricator.testwiki.wiki/
[17:01:23] <AndreiPOP>	 @MacFan4000 Was my pull request not good? Logs are necessary to figure out the error
[17:01:34] <MacFan4000>	 Also it was disabled because the repo is a fork and the upstream repo had them disabled.
[17:01:56] <MacFan4000>	 It was fine but not necessary.
[17:02:07] <AndreiPOP>	 Then how will you find the issue?
[17:02:09] <MacFan4000>	 Things should be working now.
[17:02:30] <MacFan4000>	 I restarted Elasticsearch
[17:02:33] <AndreiPOP>	 Ok, I will check to confirm
[17:02:38] <MacFan4000>	 It was in dead state
[17:03:04] <AndreiPOP>	 It does work now. I was thinking about a more complicated error
[17:03:09] <AndreiPOP>	 Any indications why it was dead?
[17:03:36] <MacFan4000>	 No idea
[17:04:07] <MacFan4000>	 Started doing that ever since the upgrade from mw 1.28 to 1.29
[17:04:12] <AndreiPOP>	 One question: which version of LocalSettings.php is in use, the one on the REL1_29 branch or the one on the master branch?
[17:04:27] <AndreiPOP>	 Upgrades can cause issues.. I've been there
[17:04:32] <MacFan4000>	 REL1_29
[17:04:41] <AndreiPOP>	 Ok
[17:05:00] <MacFan4000>	 It required upgrading from Elasticsearch 2 to 5
[17:06:13] <AndreiPOP>	 As you might've noticed, I'm also interested in the technical side of the site. What server is currently being used to run the site?
[17:06:26] <AndreiPOP>	 Sorry if I'm asking too many questions, I just want to get to know Test-Wiki better
[17:06:47] <AndreiPOP>	 (by what server I mostly mean specs, by the way)
[17:07:25] <TestWikiGitHub>	 [13mediawiki] 15MacFan4000 pushed 1 new commit to 06REL1_29: 02https://git.io/vQjyA
[17:07:26] <TestWikiGitHub>	 13mediawiki/06REL1_29 144719ad8 15AndreiPOP1: style fixes (#1)...
[17:09:57] <AndreiPOP>	 @MacFan4000 in addition to my other questions, why aren't you using a custom mailserver so that you can have mail@testwiki.wiki?
[17:13:03] <MacFan4000>	 I had trouble getting dovecot and postfix working
[17:15:03] <AndreiPOP>	 I have some experience with those, I could help if you'd like. Or if not you could just use an online service
[17:15:10] <MacFan4000>	 We had setup before moving from shared hosting to vps
[17:15:17] <MacFan4000>	 *it
[17:16:18] <AndreiPOP>	 Oh. What issues did you get?
[17:19:28] <MacFan4000>	 Don’t know, haven’t messed with since April when I bought the vps
[17:20:02] <AndreiPOP>	 Might be worth looking into, as a @testwiki.wiki is more professional :)
[17:20:22] <MacFan4000>	 In Italy
[17:20:28] <MacFan4000>	 Ignore that
[17:21:00] <AndreiPOP>	 Ok. Speaking about countries, where is TestWiki's VPS located?
[17:21:21] <MacFan4000>	 Initially in the ramnode install script it was setup as send only
[17:22:11] <AndreiPOP>	 and it didn't work?
[17:22:20] <MacFan4000>	 But when trying to get receiving working I messed it up and thus all applications are now using smtp
[17:22:23] <MacFan4000>	 It did
[17:22:54] <MacFan4000>	 It was not useful to not be able to receive email
[17:23:02] <MacFan4000>	 In NYC
[17:23:05] <AndreiPOP>	 Well sometimes starting over helps fixing an error.
[17:23:18] <MacFan4000>	 It’s a 4GB svzs plan
[17:23:21] <AndreiPOP>	 and yeah, if you can't receive mail it's basically pointless 
[17:23:32] <AndreiPOP>	 Nice
[17:24:08] <AndreiPOP>	 so you have enough to be able to install more extensions if needed
[17:24:29] <MacFan4000>	 Yes plenty
[17:25:33] <AndreiPOP>	 Also currently you manually pull changes from GitHub, correct?
[17:25:52] <MacFan4000>	 Yes
[17:26:44] <MacFan4000>	 I just pulled your changes to the server
[17:26:57] <AndreiPOP>	 I have an easier solution for that :) You can make a cron job that pulls changes automatically, maybe make it run every 15-30 mins? 
[17:27:26] <AndreiPOP>	 For now it may not be very useful, as I see most edits have been made by sysadmins, but in the future if you get more users it will be
[17:28:28] <MacFan4000>	 I tried putting an sh script in /etc/cron.hourly but it didn’t do anything
[17:28:39] <MacFan4000>	 This is on Debian 8
[17:29:01] <AndreiPOP>	 Mind sending that script? Maybe there's something you did wrong
[17:29:21] <AndreiPOP>	 did the cron logs say anything?
[17:31:16] <MacFan4000>	 https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/SJTexDiO/update.sh
[17:32:15] <AndreiPOP>	 seems right 
[17:32:25] <AndreiPOP>	 so anything in the cron logs?
[17:32:34] <MacFan4000>	 1 sec
[17:35:08] <AndreiPOP>	 @MacFan4000 sorry, I didn't notice I made something override in the settings, don't know how I made such a stupid mistake. 
[17:35:23] <TestWikiGitHub>	 [13mediawiki] 15AndreiPOP1 opened pull request #3: override error fix (06REL1_29...06patch-3) 02https://git.io/vQj7c
[17:35:24] <AndreiPOP>	 @MacFan4000 I've made a pull request, I advise you to merge as soon as possible in order to get the wiki back up, and sorry again
[17:36:12] <AndreiPOP>	 but I think $EXT should either be removed, or replaced for all the require_once extensions, as now I see one has it and the rest don't
[17:37:36] <TestWikiGitHub>	 [13mediawiki] 15MacFan4000 pushed 1 new commit to 06REL1_29: 02https://git.io/vQj7Q
[17:37:36] <TestWikiGitHub>	 13mediawiki/06REL1_29 14eb9b442 15AndreiPOP1: override error fix (#3)
[17:39:27] <MacFan4000>	 No cron log appears to exist
[17:40:53] <MacFan4000>	 Its like that because the translate installation instructions on media wiki.org said to do that that way.
[17:42:07] <AndreiPOP>	 @MacFan4000 that is not necessary. If you see https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=CommonSettings.php and the Translate extension you can see that it is done normally
[17:42:18] <MacFan4000>	 ok
[17:43:26] <AndreiPOP>	 is there nothing in /var/log/cron or /var/log/syslog?
[17:44:42] <MacFan4000>	 didn't know about syslog until i googled it.
[17:44:45] <MacFan4000>	 anyway
[17:45:05] <AndreiPOP>	 So did you check it?
[17:45:13] <MacFan4000>	 yes
[17:45:15] <MacFan4000>	 Jul 19 04:09:01 server CRON[28177]: (root) CMD (  [ -x /usr/lib/php5/sessionclean ] && /usr/lib/php5/sessionclean)
[17:46:05] <AndreiPOP>	 Oh, so the cron you set doesn't appear at all?
[17:46:38] <MacFan4000>	 yeah
[17:46:42] <MacFan4000>	 also https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Language_Extension_Bundle
[17:47:44] <MacFan4000>	 my other option is to edit my crontab...
[17:47:45] <AndreiPOP>	 is /etc/crontab chmod 600?
[17:47:55] <AndreiPOP>	 if not you should probably change it and restart the cron service
[17:48:32] <MacFan4000>	 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 717 Apr 14 15:34 /etc/crontab
[17:48:54] <AndreiPOP>	 so maybe try 600? 
[17:49:10] <MacFan4000>	 717 should be more than 600
[17:50:12] <AndreiPOP>	 Yeah, you're right, it's probably not a permissions error
[17:50:30] <AndreiPOP>	 I don't get why it doesn't appear at all in the syslog
[17:50:36] <AndreiPOP>	 When is the last time you tried using this cron?
[17:51:00] <MacFan4000>	 last night
[17:53:04] <AndreiPOP>	 This probably won't do much but did you try restarting the cron service and then running it again?
[17:54:07] <TestWikiGitHub>	 [13mediawiki] 15MacFan4000 pushed 1 new commit to 06REL1_29: 02https://git.io/vQjFl
[17:54:07] <TestWikiGitHub>	 13mediawiki/06REL1_29 146c4d5dd 15MacFan4000: Fix
[17:54:12] <MacFan4000>	 I chmodded it and restarted
[17:55:18] <AndreiPOP>	 Ok. If it still doesn't work I'm really not sure what the issue here is
[18:00:11] <MacFan4000>	 https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/OLaLXZyW/
[18:01:57] <AndreiPOP>	 Haven't seen that error before
[18:04:30] <MacFan4000>	 running the script manually works fine
[18:05:15] <AndreiPOP>	 Yeah, the issue is not the script itself, or else it wouldn't work manually either
[18:18:06] <MacFan4000>	 Great, somethings RAM again
[18:18:39] <MacFan4000>	 *hogging
[20:08:38] <MacFan4000>	 Voidwalker: not sure if this user should be trusted
[20:08:53] <MacFan4000>	 They are using lots of ips
[20:09:06] <MacFan4000>	 One of which is a DO proxy
[20:10:35] <Voidwalker>	 hmm
[20:15:12] <Voidwalker>	 worth keeping an eye on, they are all proxies/webhosts