[08:21:59] [SemanticMediaWiki] translatewiki pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v7Ggm [08:21:59] SemanticMediaWiki/master d673e99 translatewiki.net: Localisation updates from https://translatewiki.net. [08:28:42] SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticExternalQueryLookup#116 (master - 11fa912 : translatewiki.net): The build has errored. [08:28:42] Change view : https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticExternalQueryLookup/compare/0e2a5e89ba84...11fa912f986c [08:28:42] Build details : https://travis-ci.org/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticExternalQueryLookup/builds/258052070 [08:56:03] SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticScribunto#153 (master - ed62690 : translatewiki.net): The build has errored. [08:56:03] Change view : https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticScribunto/compare/3cf9c2457476...ed62690ce158 [08:56:03] Build details : https://travis-ci.org/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticScribunto/builds/258052110 [11:09:51] * samuell looking for how to get i18n'ed titles in SMW [11:16:30] I'm obviously not very good at finding stuff in the SMW API ... [11:19:48] How do I get an i18n'ed namespace? [11:23:24] * samuell now checking https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File:How_to_i18n_your_code_-_presentation_for_DevCamp.pdf [11:30:41] Oh, well, is it just the SMW_NS_PROPERTY constant? [11:34:06] samuell: hi [11:34:15] Hi Flexman [11:34:30] since i saw your post on the mailing list... [11:35:03] i think these suggestions to use a new chat-client always end up in people splitting about different services. [11:35:48] Yeah, splitting things up is not great [11:36:16] One of the problems I find with classical IRC is that history is not available when you log in [11:36:18] the problem is that there is not really a good open free service as replacement... :( Matrix sounds nice but it's also just one of the other hundred not 100% satisfying alternatives [11:36:31] you could use Quassel for that. thats what i do [11:36:44] Right [11:36:53] do you know about Quassel? [11:36:59] I'll check [11:37:35] But i think there's a problem in general when history is not kept for most people: It is harder for anyone to jump in on a question or discussion that happened when people where not logged in [11:37:46] you need to run (or have to access) a quassel server which keeps you always logged in, then you can connect from any client (like PC or phone) and have your history [11:37:55] IC [11:38:20] sure... it would be fine to have something like IRC 2.0 [11:38:56] but we have that problem everywhere. open standards are not keeping up with the needs and are getting replaced by commercial solutions :( [11:39:07] Yeah, I don't like that too [11:39:38] Re. the gitter, we never tried to push that, since not everybody seemed convinced about it [11:39:54] But yeah, I would definitely opt for an open solution [11:39:56] however that Quassel made IRC comfortable for me (but i have acess to my server), but of course it would be better if others wouldn't just idle so much [11:40:15] to push what? [11:40:26] The use of the gitter chat [11:40:37] We just put it up for testing basically [11:41:10] Also it is not open to join for people outside the SMW github org right now. [11:41:46] I mean, that is one reason it didn't get much use. [11:41:59] ah ok. hmm you can join gitter from IRC clients? [11:42:08] ah yes, that would be better if guests could join [11:42:49] Yeah, I think it is just a setting (will check) [11:43:14] But mostly we didn't inform widely about it, since we didn't have a wide agreement to start using it [11:47:48] Ah, it turns out one has to create a room under the org, to make it public, on gitter. The gitter.im/SemanticMediaWiki one is a special room only available to org members. [11:47:55] gitter sounds interesting, but i would agree to that mail from Stephan that it is more a social issue [11:49:40] We had a situation in our research group (pharmb.io) where we had a very low-traffic IRC ... which became a much more actively used Slack chat [11:50:05] Reasons, as far as I can tell, seem to be: 1) History available at all times, 2) Mobile client [11:51:08] well, if they don't want to change to gitter you could use a quassel-server, then you'll have both :) [11:52:00] Perhaps you could suggest it in the thread? [11:52:29] (I will look into it a bit, but I gather you know more about it, to promote it :) ) [12:43:37] samuell: i did suggest it now :) however someone will have to setup a quassel server i guess. not sure if there is a public one that everyone can use [12:48:10] Flexman, Great! [13:00:34] strange is not through yet... i tried with the mail i subscribed. well let's see [13:00:55] Yeah, indeed, didn't see the mail yet [13:09:40] Now I do :) [13:57:40] Ok, new question: How do I get access to the SMW constants like SMW_NS_PROPERTY, in my extension? [14:38:39] samuell: They are globally defined, so just use them(?). I might be missing something. [14:49:04] FoxT, Yes, I just realized that :) [14:49:30] I was confused since I used SMW_NS_CATEGORY (wrong) intsead of NS_CATEGORY (correct), and got some errors b/c of that [16:44:46] (Draft2) Yaron Koren: Fix for jQuery 1.11 - context() was deprecated [extensions/PageForms] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/368209 [16:53:20] (CR) Yaron Koren: [C: 2] Fix for jQuery 1.11 - context() was deprecated [extensions/PageForms] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/368209 (owner: Yaron Koren) [16:56:40] (Merged) jenkins-bot: Fix for jQuery 1.11 - context() was deprecated [extensions/PageForms] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/368209 (owner: Yaron Koren) [17:08:20] (Draft2) Yaron Koren: Fixed Cargo autocompletion for "text with autocomplete" [extensions/PageForms] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/368210 [17:10:14] (CR) Yaron Koren: [C: 2] Fixed Cargo autocompletion for "text with autocomplete" [extensions/PageForms] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/368210 (owner: Yaron Koren) [17:40:52] Who has admin rights here? I asked about the broken history link in the channel info, and Yaron pointed out that it should be: http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/%23semantic-mediawiki/ [18:06:31] Hmm, the channel topic was set by user Dantman obviously [18:07:00] Doesn't seem to have been online for a long time though (last seen: never, according to the server) [18:13:14] samuell: I am not sure at all, but I think Denny might have admin rights as well. Might be worth sending him an email [18:16:14] Ah [19:12:07] Thanks FoxT, I mailed Denny now [19:42:56] [SemanticResultFormats] s7eph4n pushed 1 new commit to filtered: https://git.io/v7nnZ [19:42:56] SemanticResultFormats/filtered e0d7b62 Stephan Gambke: Filtered format: Add more marker cluster parameters... [19:51:13] Looks like Nadir_Seen_Fire is the channel owner, but xe hasn't been seen in over a year. [19:55:31] [SemanticResultFormats] s7eph4n pushed 1 new commit to filtered: https://git.io/v7nCC [19:55:31] SemanticResultFormats/filtered c3fc271 Stephan Gambke: Minor clean-up [20:00:13] * hexmode goes to friend dantman on fb [20:00:59] *thumbs up* :) [20:05:37] message sent. We shall see. [20:08:17] * hexmode gets back to work on ReplaceText refactoring [20:09:45] +1 [20:10:40] I have a client asking for a way to make RT not send out notifications when they use RT, so I'm adding a field [20:11:02] also, trying to make the code more digestable for myself. [20:25:58] [SemanticResultFormats] s7eph4n pushed 1 new commit to filtered: https://git.io/v7n4b [20:25:58] SemanticResultFormats/filtered c13581b Stephan Gambke: Merge branch 'master' into filtered [20:27:50] [SemanticResultFormats] s7eph4n opened pull request #281: Filtered format: Add more marker cluster parameters (master...filtered) https://git.io/v7nBm [20:38:59] [SemanticResultFormats] s7eph4n pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v7nRP [20:38:59] SemanticResultFormats/master a8a19e8 Stephan Gambke: Filtered format: Add more marker cluster parameters (#281)...