[00:05:05] * A_User paces around semi-patiently [00:19:12] [SemanticMediaWiki] mwjames closed pull request #1767: Tweaks after Travis incident:2p40l49r3yxd (master...travis) https://git.io/v6Rr1 [00:19:37] [SemanticMediaWiki] mwjames deleted travis-ip at 28c0b25: https://git.io/v6RiH [00:29:44] [SemanticMediaWiki] mwjames created error (+1 new commit): https://git.io/v6RP6 [00:29:44] SemanticMediaWiki/error 9fe4f44 mwjames: Make display of errors user language dep., refs 1293, 1452, 1621 [00:47:59] [SemanticMediaWiki] mwjames force-pushed error from 9fe4f44 to f8322ad: https://git.io/v6RXp [00:47:59] SemanticMediaWiki/error f8322ad mwjames: Make display of errors user language dep., refs 1293, 1452, 1621 [01:12:26] SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki#5984 (error - f8322ad : mwjames): The build failed. [01:12:26] Change view : https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki/compare/9fe4f44201a4...f8322ad44df3 [01:12:26] Build details : https://travis-ci.org/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki/builds/151684030 [01:42:14] * A_User panteth for knowledge [01:42:29] having sought it elsewhere already [03:06:53] Is it at all possible to have a property link to alternative text but pipelink to other page? as a hypothetical example: [[has property::[[Linked Page|Text]]]] where the property is the Text, not the Linked Page? [03:15:34] A_User: I think what you're trying to do is create a property, and then create a link to a specific page after that property is created. Is that right? [03:17:08] well, yes, though not quite intentionally. more try to see if its possibly to include a convenience function. [03:17:28] had a property that is a name. [03:17:32] Convenience function? [03:18:11] sorry template, not function [03:18:24] * A_User was just discussing functions elsewere :P anyway... [03:18:45] have a property that is a name. right now its a first name. [03:19:14] A_User: It's possible to achieve the result you want, but it requires programmatic logic, because this isn't a feature of SMW as far as I am aware. [03:19:36] You can set the property invisibly, and then create a link like you want. [03:19:58] there is a template on our wiki that adds a last name and links it back to a family page. so i was attempting to have the property be the text of the full name, first and last [03:20:04] while still linking to the family page [03:20:57] oh. thanks for that idea. i had read about doing that, but didnt connect the idea of just doing that separately than link. :) sometimes, the obvious things... [03:21:04] Is the property added manually, or are you using Semantic Forms? [03:21:32] Yes, sometimes you just need to bounce your idea off of someone before you figure it out on your own. [03:21:36] semantic forms is an extension. to be honest, i mess with our site's wiki about once a year, if that. [03:22:14] If you facilitate data entry with Semantic Forms, all of this can be automatic. [03:22:24] it was setup before i came along, the original folks left, had a server move, broke everything, learned enough to get it working again, update extensions, break everything again, update the templates to use new extension syntax etc., and just maintaining since then [03:22:53] I'm still stuck at MW 1.18. [03:23:02] Upgrading is going to be a nightmare. [03:23:04] most of what i've messed wtih has been the externaldata extension, but its possible we're using semantic forms as part of our stack. [03:27:57] A_User: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Badon#Advanced_MediaWiki_programming_toolkit [03:29:59] thanks :) [03:30:25] yeah, i have most of those installed [03:30:34] [SemanticMediaWiki] mwjames force-pushed error from f8322ad to 6091b89: https://git.io/v6RXp [03:30:34] SemanticMediaWiki/error 6091b89 mwjames: Make display of errors user language dep., refs 1293, 1452, 1621 [03:32:36] A_User: Just say my nick to get my attention again if you need it. [03:33:03] :) [04:23:12] [SemanticMediaWiki] mwjames opened pull request #1768: Make display of errors user language dep., refs #1293, #1452, #1621 (master...error) https://git.io/v6RFu [04:50:50] [SemanticMediaWiki] mwjames closed pull request #1768: Make display of errors user language dep., refs #1293, #1452, #1621 (master...error) https://git.io/v6RFu [04:52:52] [SemanticMediaWiki] mwjames pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v6Rb2 [04:52:52] SemanticMediaWiki/master 57ef44b mwjames: Update RELEASE-NOTES.md... [04:53:47] [SemanticWatchlist] mwjames pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v6RbV [04:53:47] SemanticWatchlist/master 86e5e5f mwjames: Merge pull request #67 from SemanticMediaWiki/issue66... [05:09:24] [SemanticMediaWiki] mwjames created fts-verbose (+1 new commit): https://git.io/v6RNv [05:09:24] SemanticMediaWiki/fts-verbose 9439e2b mwjames: FTS rebuilder to add --v/--quick option, refs 1481, 1763 [05:11:00] [SemanticMediaWiki] mwjames opened pull request #1769: FTS rebuilder to add --v/--quick option, refs #1481, #1763 (master...fts-verbose) https://git.io/v6RNt [05:17:48] SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticWatchlist#63 (master - 86e5e5f : mwjames): The build was fixed. [05:17:48] Change view : https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticWatchlist/compare/fbc5e62ee91f...86e5e5f6e047 [05:17:48] Build details : https://travis-ci.org/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticWatchlist/builds/151710689 [06:03:49] [SemanticMediaWiki] mwjames deleted fts-verbose at 9439e2b: https://git.io/v6RxA [06:04:44] [SemanticMediaWiki] mwjames pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v6Rpe [06:04:44] SemanticMediaWiki/master c0b32da mwjames: Simplify data provider... [06:10:18] [SemanticMediaWiki] mwjames pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v6Rpn [06:10:18] SemanticMediaWiki/master 9f07112 mwjames: FTS table avoid error on delete when an index key is missing... [06:12:06] [SemanticMediaWiki] mwjames created fts-pid (+1 new commit): https://git.io/v6Rp0 [06:12:06] SemanticMediaWiki/fts-pid b1b9a9e mwjames: FTS avoid 0 assignments, refs 1481 [06:14:30] [SemanticMediaWiki] mwjames opened pull request #1770: FTS avoid 0 assignments, refs #1481 (master...fts-pid) https://git.io/v6Rp1 [07:03:41] [SemanticWatchlist] kghbln created travis from master (+0 new commits): https://git.io/v60e6 [07:04:51] [SemanticWatchlist] kghbln pushed 1 new commit to travis: https://git.io/v60eX [07:04:51] SemanticWatchlist/travis 54873f2 Karsten Hoffmeyer: Update .travis.yml... [07:05:16] [SemanticWatchlist] kghbln opened pull request #69: Update .travis.yml (master...travis) https://git.io/v60e1 [07:15:38] [SemanticWatchlist] kghbln created issue68 (+1 new commit): https://git.io/v60vc [07:15:38] SemanticWatchlist/issue68 3bc15e9 Kghbln: Remove I18n-shim required for MediaWiki 1.22.x and lower... [07:17:24] [SemanticWatchlist] kghbln opened pull request #70: Remove I18n-shim required for MediaWiki 1.22.x and lower (master...issue68) https://git.io/v60vw [07:19:41] (PS4) Nikerabbit: Add to a message that has sample code [extensions/SemanticForms] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/282468 (owner: Amire80) [07:20:41] (CR) Nikerabbit: [C: -1] "Better to do this in code since it is always ltr, isn't it?" [extensions/SemanticForms] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/282468 (owner: Amire80) [07:21:39] [SemanticMediaWiki] mwjames pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v60fe [07:21:39] SemanticMediaWiki/master dc82918 mwjames: Merge pull request #1770 from SemanticMediaWiki/fts-pid... [07:23:48] [SemanticMediaWiki] mwjames created ask-error (+1 new commit): https://git.io/v60fO [07:23:48] SemanticMediaWiki/ask-error 37d1588 mwjames: Use ul/li element in Ask error output, refs 1759, 1768 [07:24:37] SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticWatchlist#64 (travis - 86e5e5f : mwjames): The build was fixed. [07:24:37] Change view : https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticWatchlist/compare/travis [07:24:37] Build details : https://travis-ci.org/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticWatchlist/builds/151726170 [07:26:23] SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticWatchlist#65 (travis - 54873f2 : Karsten Hoffmeyer): The build was fixed. [07:26:23] Change view : https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticWatchlist/compare/86e5e5f6e047...54873f271074 [07:26:23] Build details : https://travis-ci.org/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticWatchlist/builds/151726324 [07:32:22] SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticWatchlist#67 (issue68 - 3bc15e9 : Kghbln): The build passed. [07:32:22] Change view : https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticWatchlist/commit/3bc15e9e3962 [07:32:23] Build details : https://travis-ci.org/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticWatchlist/builds/151728088 [07:38:57] [SemanticMediaWiki] mwjames opened pull request #1771: Use ul/li element in Ask error output, refs #1759, #1768 (master...ask-error) https://git.io/v60Jg [13:02:25] [SemanticMediaWiki] kghbln created since25 (+1 new commit): https://git.io/v60KD [13:02:25] SemanticMediaWiki/since25 964b3d5 Karsten Hoffmeyer: Update rebuildFulltextSearchTable.php... [13:06:44] [SemanticMediaWiki] mwjames pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v606R [13:06:44] SemanticMediaWiki/master 50f5d13 mwjames: Merge pull request #1771 from SemanticMediaWiki/ask-error... [13:07:14] [SemanticMediaWiki] mwjames pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v606g [13:07:14] SemanticMediaWiki/master 0e93567 mwjames: Merge pull request #1772 from SemanticMediaWiki/since25... [13:07:53] [SemanticWatchlist] mwjames closed pull request #69: Update .travis.yml (master...travis) https://git.io/v60e1 [13:08:08] [SemanticWatchlist] mwjames pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v606y [13:08:08] SemanticWatchlist/master 356624c mwjames: Merge pull request #70 from SemanticMediaWiki/issue68... [13:13:03] SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki#5996 (since25 - 964b3d5 : Karsten Hoffmeyer): The build has errored. [13:13:03] Change view : https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki/commit/964b3d5c1b33 [13:13:03] Build details : https://travis-ci.org/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki/builds/151794879 [14:07:02] [SemanticMediaWiki] mwjames pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v609J [14:07:02] SemanticMediaWiki/master a372be5 mwjames: Fix use statement, refs #1768... [16:02:25] [SemanticMediaWiki] mwjames created error (+1 new commit): https://git.io/v6EUv [16:02:25] SemanticMediaWiki/error de443e4 mwjames: Avoid double error recording, refs 1768 [16:19:48] [SemanticMediaWiki] mwjames opened pull request #1773: Avoid double error recording, refs #1768 (master...error) https://git.io/v6Ek1 [16:50:45] [SemanticMediaWiki] mwjames pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v6EmH [16:50:45] SemanticMediaWiki/master 14d06bf mwjames: Merge pull request #1773 from SemanticMediaWiki/error... [16:56:21] [SemanticMediaWiki] mwjames created error (+1 new commit): https://git.io/v6EYQ [16:56:21] SemanticMediaWiki/error 9204d2d mwjames: Remove wfMessage usage from DV's, refs 1768 [16:59:51] [SemanticMediaWiki] mwjames opened pull request #1774: Remove wfMessage usage from DV's, refs #1768 (master...error) https://git.io/v6EOa [17:27:33] [SemanticMediaWiki] mwjames pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v6En7 [17:27:33] SemanticMediaWiki/master be5830e mwjames: Improve test robustness... [17:29:30] [SemanticMediaWiki] mwjames created time-offset (+1 new commit): https://git.io/v6EcZ [17:29:30] SemanticMediaWiki/time-offset de3b020 mwjames: Fix time offset recognition... [18:00:00] Hey there. I have several questions relating to Cargo and I hope you can support me to find a solution. Cargo provides an option to store a list of Strings, numbers etc. and I seek for an option to query only the second value of a field. How can I ignore all other parameters and print it normally and not in a list? [18:00:07] Also, I used a field, which contains a single date. My Mediawiki is German, so I write my dates in a different date format (DD. MONTH JJJJ). Unfortunately the month isn't recognized correctly in some cases. Can you tell me if this is a problem of Mediawiki or by your extension and might there be a way to fix this? [18:00:13] Thank you for your support and your great plugin! [18:01:12] [SemanticMediaWiki] mwjames pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v6E46 [18:01:12] SemanticMediaWiki/master f4e3fcf mwjames: Merge pull request #1774 from SemanticMediaWiki/error... [18:35:15] [SemanticMediaWiki] mwjames opened pull request #1775: Fix time offset recognition (master...time-offset) https://git.io/v6Ez8 [18:39:51] Nekura: hello! Sorry, only saw this now. [18:40:08] No it's fine! I knew you would answer! [18:40:39] I don't know if there's a way to do the first one... is it specifically the 2nd value you need to print, or do you want to print all of them at different times? [18:41:25] For the second one: that does sound like a Cargo problem. What is a specific date that fails? [18:41:45] ...and are you using Semantic Forms to enter the dates? [18:46:54] Actually, there might be a way to do the first one, depending on what exactly you want to do. [18:47:16] If you literally just want to display the 2nd value in a list, this should work, I think: [18:51:08] {{#cargo_query: [18:51:08] tables=MyTable,MyTable__ListField [18:51:08] |join on=MyTable._ID=MyTable__ListField._rowID [18:51:08] |fields=MyTable__ListField._value [18:51:09] |where=...some conditions... [18:51:09] |limit=1,1 [18:51:10] }} [18:51:28] Actually, I'm not sure. But it might work. [18:55:02] Thank you, this answered a lot of my questions. I will start integrating Semantic Forms into my system and reading the guide. Let's see if this is working. [19:02:36] Then you sent me a query for retrieving the 2nd value of a list. I will try it soon. But my intention was to save a list of names and another list containing their job. Is there a way to disable the list markup? [19:07:51] (PS2) Dzahn: Replace git.wikimedia.org url's with diffusion url's [extensions/SemanticBundle] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/296898 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139089) (owner: Paladox) [19:07:55] (CR) Dzahn: [C: 1] Replace git.wikimedia.org url's with diffusion url's [extensions/SemanticBundle] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/296898 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139089) (owner: Paladox) [19:08:24] (CR) Dzahn: "could somebody merge this, it's the last one in a string of patches all across repos to replace git.wm references" [extensions/SemanticBundle] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/296898 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139089) (owner: Paladox) [19:09:51] Nekura: I don't understand. Why exactly do you only want to display one of the values? [19:17:34] [SemanticMediaWiki] mwjames deleted time-offset at de3b020: https://git.io/v6ErM [19:19:19] [SemanticMediaWiki] mwjames pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v6ErA [19:19:19] SemanticMediaWiki/master cd3b0ea mwjames: Update RELEASE-NOTES.md... [19:19:59] [SemanticMediaWiki] mwjames pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v6Eov [19:19:59] SemanticMediaWiki/master bfaa88e mwjames: Update README.md... [21:19:28] [SemanticMediaWiki] mwjames created interface (+1 new commit): https://git.io/v6EFn [21:19:28] SemanticMediaWiki/interface 568e82a mwjames: Add QueryEngine and StoreAware interface [21:47:05] [SemanticMediaWiki] mwjames force-pushed interface from 568e82a to 81c1452: https://git.io/v6ExW [21:47:05] SemanticMediaWiki/interface 81c1452 mwjames: Add QueryEngine and StoreAware interface [22:07:59] [SemanticMediaWiki] mwjames opened pull request #1776: Add QueryEngine and StoreAware interface (master...interface) https://git.io/v6Eh9