[00:15:42] <cariaso>	 php composer.phar  require mediawiki/semantic-media-wiki "2.3.1" fixes my issue
[01:40:23] <smw-github>	 [SemanticMediaWiki] JeroenDeDauw created rmcompatmode (+1 new commit): https://git.io/v6exf
[01:40:23] <smw-github>	 SemanticMediaWiki/rmcompatmode 57a0cda jeroendedauw: Drop silent disabling of SMW when Cargo or WB are installed
[01:40:38] <smw-github>	 [SemanticMediaWiki] JeroenDeDauw opened pull request #1749: Drop silent disabling of SMW when Cargo or WB are installed (master...rmcompatmode) https://git.io/v6exk
[02:51:03] <JeroenDeDauw>	 cariaso: sorry for that, I hope James agrees to revert that "feature" soon
[03:14:10] <cariaso>	 wow, um yeah that's quite the feature
[03:14:44] <cariaso>	 I know Yaroen often spoke about it in a somewhat sheepish way, for fear of conflict
[03:14:55] <cariaso>	 but for me they do 2 quite different things
[03:15:15] <cariaso>	 and at a minimum coexistence is part of a smooth transition
[03:15:58] <cariaso>	 and now I see the comment thread
[03:16:05] <cariaso>	 seems like this is a bloody fight
[03:20:23] <cariaso>	 I now see https://sourceforge.net/p/semediawiki/mailman/semediawiki-user/thread/1466658604630-5064994.post%40n6.nabble.com/#msg35177423
[03:20:52] <cariaso>	 and would have to agree, that as a long term user of SMW this is a breaking change
[03:21:13] <cariaso>	 and I did review the wiki notes while trying to debug this
[03:21:34] <cariaso>	 it seems the only place to be aware of this via a sourceforge mailing list archive
[03:21:59] <cariaso>	 and while I'm a fan of older technologies that still work (heck I came to IRC as my first line of help)
[03:22:27] <cariaso>	 having that only documented in a sf.net mailing list seems actively user hostile
[03:26:00] <cariaso>	 and directly conflicts with https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Semantic_MediaWiki_2.4.1
[03:26:18] <cariaso>	 which says "Compatibility changes: This release does not drop support for anything."
[06:32:44] <smw-github>	 [SemanticMaps] Nikerabbit pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v6vtU
[06:32:44] <smw-github>	 SemanticMaps/master cd1a640 Niklas Laxström: Localisation updates from https://translatewiki.net.
[13:03:45] <Tore__>	 Good Morning, I was wondering if there is anyone here available to answer a question about the Semantic Mediawiki extension and an issue I am having with refreshing the results of inline #ask queries?
[14:05:41] <jk_>	 dont ask to ask
[14:05:57] <jk_>	 just ask :)
[14:08:00] <Tore__>	 Thank you. I decided to send it to the mailing list instead. There is too much detail for IRC.
[14:08:56] <Tore__>	 I know not to ask to ask, but I figured you don't want a wall of text, either :) If you want to read my question on the mailing list later, I would very much appreciate it.