[13:27:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Yaron Koren: [V: 2] Making SF pass JSHint test [extensions/SemanticForms] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/151970 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61630) (owner: Jatin)
[13:43:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Foxtrott: "Sorry, was busy the last few days." [extensions/SemanticForms] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/151970 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61630) (owner: Jatin)
[13:44:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Jatin: fixed 'class=' parameter for new Tokens input type [extensions/SemanticForms] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/154266
[13:52:44] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Yaron Koren: [C: 2] fixed 'class=' parameter for new Tokens input type [extensions/SemanticForms] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/154266 (owner: Jatin)
[13:52:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) jenkins-bot: [V: -1] fixed 'class=' parameter for new Tokens input type [extensions/SemanticForms] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/154266 (owner: Jatin)
[13:53:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Yaron Koren: [V: 2] fixed 'class=' parameter for new Tokens input type [extensions/SemanticForms] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/154266 (owner: Jatin)
[14:45:04] <kim_bruning>	 I'm trying to pass image page names to a template, but for some reason I'm getting image links instead... what's going on? http://vps753.greenhost.nl/acceptatie/index.php/Hoofdpagina#Personen  (under the heading personen)
[14:45:12] <kim_bruning>	 (wikisource: http://vps753.greenhost.nl/acceptatie/index.php?title=Hoofdpagina&action=edit&section=1 )
[14:49:19] <kim_bruning>	 so I'm trying to get the image page name, not the image
[14:52:58] <kim_bruning>	 ok, I'm assuming the option does not exist, and writing even more convoluted wikicode :-P
[14:53:36] <kim_bruning>	 it's just that with a lot of SMW stuff, there's much that SHOULD , almost, just, work, just around the corner, but that one tiny thing you need does not :-/
[14:54:00] <kim_bruning>	 So then you override with template output format.. but then... again... the one tiny thing you need to Make It Work   is not there
[14:54:14] <kim_bruning>	 which is not the fault of the programmers per-se, I realize
[14:54:17] <kim_bruning>	 just frustrating :-P
[15:04:14] <kim_bruning>	 ohai Yaron
[15:06:20] <Yaron>	 kim_bruning: hi, what's up.
[15:06:32] <Yaron>	 Oh, you've got some issues.
[15:06:48] <kim_bruning>	 yeah, I'm just going to wizard ssome more :-)
[15:07:01] <kim_bruning>	 *nod* since the galleries aren't really working for me eh? :-)
[15:07:43] <kim_bruning>	 And I can't really recommend wikidata to anyone either yet, since that's still embryonic in so many ways
[15:08:11] <Yaron>	 You mean Wikibase?
[15:09:24] <kim_bruning>	 I guess I do
[15:09:28] <Yaron>	 Anyway, you should have a "link=none" in your query; that's at least one problem.
[15:09:36] <kim_bruning>	 well, I did
[15:09:44] <kim_bruning>	 it suppresssed the page links, but not the image links
[15:10:08] <Yaron>	 Oh... that sounds like an SMW bug, then.
[15:10:19] <Yaron>	 You can probably get around it by changing the property types.
[15:10:24] <kim_bruning>	 I could
[15:10:30] <kim_bruning>	 but then everything ELSE breaks
[15:10:43] <Yaron>	 You mean, non-template queries?
[15:10:50] <kim_bruning>	 indeed
[15:11:07] <Yaron>	 Fine - just have the infobox template store additional properties.
[15:11:18] <kim_bruning>	 That's one way to do it, yup :-)
[15:11:22] <kim_bruning>	 It already does store some
[15:11:43] <kim_bruning>	 of course that comes with the penalty of having to runJobs.php again
[15:11:46] <kim_bruning>	 <sigh>
[15:11:52] <Yaron>	 That sounds horrible.
[15:11:55] <kim_bruning>	 :-P
[15:12:06] <kim_bruning>	 it's a comparatively large wiki :-P
[15:12:23] <kim_bruning>	 I think I can do it with a bunch of parserfunctions
[15:12:27] <kim_bruning>	 don't worry, I'll live :-)
[15:12:43] <Yaron>	 Oh, great, I was getting worried.
[15:12:50] <kim_bruning>	 Ha! Really? ;-)
[15:13:26] <Yaron>	 No comment. :)
[15:14:26] <kim_bruning>	 I need to mess with the infoboxes some more anyway
[15:15:45] <kim_bruning>	 well, joy...
[15:16:16] <kim_bruning>	 so the unaltered stuff ALSO shows images :-/
[15:16:25] <kim_bruning>	 right, yes, need to alter infoboxes
[15:16:36] <kim_bruning>	 <frufrufrufrustrated>
[15:17:48] <Yaron>	 I don't understand, but let me know if you need more help.
[15:18:27] <kim_bruning>	 I did the first thing you suggested, but That Didn't Quite Work Out (tm)
[15:19:03] <kim_bruning>	 so now I'm diving back all the way to the beginning and hopefully won't need to start over entirely
[15:19:09] <kim_bruning>	 That would be bad ;-)
[15:19:22] <kim_bruning>	 Just frustrated
[15:21:54] <Yaron>	 The first thing I suggested was adding "link=none".
[15:22:05] <kim_bruning>	 ok, then the second thing
[15:22:21] <Yaron>	 Changing the property types?
[15:22:45] <kim_bruning>	 nvm. I'm currently adding additional properties of type text
[15:22:54] <Yaron>	 Ah, the third thing.
[15:23:17] <kim_bruning>	 yeah, because I thought I already had a property of type text, but for some bleeping reason it was showing images anyway
[15:23:36] * kim_bruning has a good guess as to why <looks darkly at the person who imported the database originally> 
[15:23:52] <kim_bruning>	 (to wit, they put square brackets around image links)
[15:24:18] <kim_bruning>	 so now I figure I'll use #set to deal with the clean code
[15:27:13] <kim_bruning>	 Thanks for helping btw :-)
[15:28:22] <Yaron>	 Ah!
[15:28:30] <Yaron>	 Cool, I'm glad I could help out.
[15:28:37] <kim_bruning>	 well, let's hope this works
[15:28:44] <kim_bruning>	 debugging {{{{{{{{{{{{{}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} is hell ^^;;
[15:30:24] <kim_bruning>	 and then vi decides to introduce linebreaks ^^;;;
[15:30:26] <kim_bruning>	 Not my day
[15:40:55] <kim_bruning>	 and explode won't work on image, because both have | and I don't think you can do quoted-strings...
[15:41:51] * kim_bruning bonks my head on the table
[15:43:03] <kim_bruning>	 nor will #replace :-/
[15:44:32] <kim_bruning>	 hmm, PAGENAMEmight save me
[15:45:14] <kim_bruning>	 pagename DOES save me!
[15:45:37] <kim_bruning>	 (if it's too hard, you're doing it wrong :-p)
[15:58:41] <kim_bruning>	 pagename does save me.... after a lot more work yet
[15:59:35] <kim_bruning>	 I do still need to strip [[]]
[15:59:39] <kim_bruning>	 :-(
[16:12:55] <kim_bruning>	 :-/
[16:15:20] <Nikerabbit>	 hi kim_bruning
[16:15:58] <kim_bruning>	 Hi Nikerabbit :-)
[16:16:10] <kim_bruning>	 Now running into parserfunctions issues ^^;;
[16:39:35] <Nemo_bis>	 that's always fun
[16:41:59] <kim_bruning>	 Ok, what are the odds that I run into multiple bugs on the same day? :-/
[16:42:20] <kim_bruning>	 <sigh>
[16:42:33] * kim_bruning pulls my (remaining) hair out
[17:05:27] <davexunit>	 hello all.
[17:06:21] <davexunit>	 this might be sort of unconventional, but I am trying to get a mediawiki instance with semantic mediawiki working from behind a SOCKS proxy.
[17:07:05] <davexunit>	 I have a testing mw machine on another network.  I'm working from home, so I made a SOCKS proxy via an SSH tunnel so I could access it.
[17:07:40] <davexunit>	 unfortunately, the semantic mediawiki markup is not read at all.  it just displays as regular wiki content would.
[17:08:10] <davexunit>	 my feeling is that my configuration, enableSemantics("localhost"), isn't the right thing for this setup.
[17:08:28] <davexunit>	 despite that I type "localhost" in my web browser to access the wiki.
[17:10:38] <davexunit>	 it's a pretty obscure problem, but does anyone have any hints that could point me in the right direction?
[18:10:21] <smw-github>	 [SemanticMediaWiki] mwjames created test-sortable-query (+1 new commit): http://git.io/MUdE_A
[18:10:21] <smw-github>	 SemanticMediaWiki/test-sortable-query c50169a mwjames: Add SortableQueryTest...
[18:12:42] <kim_bruning>	 davexunit, hmm, that's somewhat puzzeling
[18:13:02] <kim_bruning>	 davexunit, try with plain port-forwarding instead?   <first guess>
[18:13:57] <davexunit>	 kim_bruning: how does the enableSemantics thing work, anyhow?  why do I have to enable it for a particular hostname?
[18:14:00] <davexunit>	 just curious
[18:14:14] <kim_bruning>	 good question, I never looked into that ^^;;
[18:15:04] <davexunit>	 heh
[18:15:48] <kim_bruning>	 I can't find any deeper documentation on it at all
[18:16:45] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki#2219 (test-sortable-query - c50169a : mwjames): The build failed.
[18:16:45] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki/commit/c50169a89c21
[18:16:45] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki/builds/32658765
[18:17:16] <FoxT>	 davexunit: kim_bruning: AFAIK that hostname is only used for RDF export. If you don't use that you can put in anything you like.
[18:18:19] <kim_bruning>	 I just spotted something like that in the documentation
[18:18:48] <kim_bruning>	 so something else is causing the problem
[18:19:20] <kim_bruning>	 davexunit, semantic markup should display exactly as regular links and markup, actually
[18:19:34] <davexunit>	 kim_bruning: ah, okay.  thanks.
[18:19:36] <kim_bruning>	 davexunit, the difference being that you should have an extra option in  the sidebar
[18:19:58] <davexunit>	 perhaps I broke something else and only noticed it when I started working remotely.
[18:20:01] <kim_bruning>	 view properties or something of the ilk
[18:20:11] <kim_bruning>	 you saw something else when working locally?
[18:21:20] <davexunit>	 kim_bruning: yeah, but the problem is that I'm not 100% sure that I didn't do something else to screw it up between now and then.
[18:21:49] <kim_bruning>	 well, make a test page with a test property?
[18:22:44] <kim_bruning>	 http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Testing
[18:24:33] <davexunit>	 will do
[18:37:13] <kim_bruning>	 is it working? :-)
[18:37:56] <davexunit>	 kim_bruning: heh, sorry.  I'll need a bit of time.  chasing down another issue that I just found. :P
[18:38:22] <davexunit>	 working out the kinks in a script to automatically deploy a mediawiki instance
[18:39:06] <kim_bruning>	 I had one of those, once
[18:39:11] <davexunit>	 and I screwed something up and now I can't login.  added a bad extension.
[18:39:13] <kim_bruning>	 awww
[18:39:32] <davexunit>	 composer took a lot of pain out of this process.
[18:39:42] <davexunit>	 I was trying to manage extensions without it and it was horrible.
[18:40:30] <kim_bruning>	 composer does more than just smw?
[18:41:17] <davexunit>	 I wrote a few hacky package recipes to add the other things I need.
[18:41:33] <davexunit>	 but handling smw was a big load off my shoulders.
[18:43:51] <kim_bruning>	 of course, if I try to deploy smw to a firewalled server, it's never going to fly ^^;;
[18:44:13] <davexunit>	 heh
[18:56:09] <davexunit>	 kim_bruning: the test worked.  I guess the problem is something else.
[18:57:47] <davexunit>	 wonder what broke this page...
[18:58:11] <smw-github>	 [SemanticMediaWiki] mwjames opened pull request #497: Add SortableQueryTest (master...test-sortable-query) http://git.io/xM6YYg
[18:59:31] <FoxT>	 davexunit: Did you by any chance fiddle with the enabled namespaces?
[19:00:31] <davexunit>	 yeah, well I'm using someone else's fiddlings anyway.
[19:00:38] <davexunit>	 I inherited a wiki to maintain.
[19:02:13] <kim_bruning>	 well done :-)
[19:02:21] <kim_bruning>	 wikis are never too complicated
[19:02:36] <kim_bruning>	 until someome starts scribbeling too much smw and parserfunctions ;-)
[19:02:45] <davexunit>	 this one had a lot of cruft.
[19:02:52] <davexunit>	 a lot of stuff that wasn't used anymore.
[19:02:58] <kim_bruning>	 that
[19:03:00] <kim_bruning>	 s normal too
[19:04:19] <davexunit>	 so I'm trying to enforce that all configs stay in a git repo so the setup is reproducable elsewhere.
[19:09:52] <kim_bruning>	 that can be good and bad
[19:10:02] * kim_bruning tends to keep configs out of git, because strange things break
[19:10:21] <kim_bruning>	 specially LocalSettings.php
[19:10:46] <kim_bruning>	 though I suppose you could easily automate keeping different LocalSettings for different Local Situations ;-)
[19:11:47] <davexunit>	 yeah, I have different configs for different environments
[19:12:10] <davexunit>	 but it's nice having the composer.json file and the script that sets up everything in version control.
[19:13:16] <kim_bruning>	 :-)
[19:15:27] <davexunit>	 hopefully it will save the next guy some time.  I had to reverse engineer this thing.
[20:26:11] <smw-github>	 [SemanticMediaWiki] mwjames force-pushed test-sortable-query from c50169a to 0ea3322: http://git.io/pMDFdg
[20:26:11] <smw-github>	 SemanticMediaWiki/test-sortable-query 0ea3322 mwjames: Add SortableQueryTest...
[20:41:38] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki#2221 (test-sortable-query - 0ea3322 : mwjames): The build has errored.
[20:41:38] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki/compare/c50169a89c21...0ea3322b68f7
[20:41:38] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki/builds/32669650
[20:50:45] <smw-github>	 [SemanticMediaWiki] mwjames force-pushed test-sortable-query from 0ea3322 to 1e9986d: http://git.io/pMDFdg
[20:50:45] <smw-github>	 SemanticMediaWiki/test-sortable-query 1e9986d mwjames: Add SortableQueryTest...
[21:04:49] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki#2222 (test-sortable-query - 1e9986d : mwjames): The build has errored.
[21:04:49] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki/compare/0ea3322b68f7...1e9986dbcfdc
[21:04:49] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki/builds/32671663
[21:08:17] <smw-github>	 [SemanticMediaWiki] mwjames force-pushed test-sortable-query from 1e9986d to f8c12ee: http://git.io/pMDFdg
[21:08:17] <smw-github>	 SemanticMediaWiki/test-sortable-query f8c12ee mwjames: Add SortableQueryTest...
[21:14:11] <smw-github>	 [SemanticResultFormats] JeroenDeDauw pushed 3 new commits to master: http://git.io/J0_kUA
[21:14:11] <smw-github>	 SemanticResultFormats/master 0f4c253 Translation updater bot: Localisation updates from https://translatewiki.net....
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[21:30:08] <smw-github>	 [SemanticMediaWiki] mwjames deleted test-sortable-query at f8c12ee: http://git.io/UYB_kA