[12:35:47] <Leoric>	 Hello
[12:39:27] <Leoric>	 I'm trying to add a new attribute to the contact form, i've added it to the forms page and see it when i edit a contact, but i can't see it on the page of a contac nor can i #ask for it. A push in the right direction would be much appriciated.
[13:02:59] <Yaron>	 Leoric: you need to add it to the template as well.
[13:04:29] <Leoric>	 i added it to Formular:Kontakte (sry, it's a german version) with "{{FormTab01Zeile | [[Attribut:Skype|Skype]] | {{Fragezeichen|Skype Name}}{{{field|Skype|size=80|}} }}} }}"
[13:05:21] <Leoric>	 i see it in the right position when i edit the form
[13:05:58] <Leoric>	 but the "Attribut:Skype" pages stays empty and so does the #ask
[13:08:00] <Leoric>	 and i tried to add it as different datatypes, string(with and without allowed values) and text
[13:25:08] <Leoric>	 g2g, i'll try ma luck throwing it at the mailing list. But thanks for the input anyway Yaron. bye
[14:04:39] <sven^_>	 heya... after moving a wiki from one server to the other I get some strange log errors where the wiki tries to access files in their old destination "/home/foo/w/extensions/SemanticForms/skins/collapse-minus.png) is not within the allowed path(s)....."
[14:05:52] <sven^_>	 (the files are now in a chrooted environment and somewhere within /var/www/vhosts/...../wiki/"
[14:24:42] <kim_bruning>	 Hello! Is anyone still here, or is everyone en-route to london? ^^;;
[14:26:11] <kim_bruning>	 I found an interesting corner-ish case in semantic result formats   gallery: http://vps753.greenhost.nl/acceptatie/index.php/Personen
[14:26:45] <kim_bruning>	 compare info3 with info4   , there should be 9 images in both.   However, images from instantcommons are not showing under info3
[14:27:36] <kim_bruning>	 Am I doing something wrong? Or is the gallery result format at fault? ^^;;
[14:30:38] * kim_bruning wonders if Yaron will be at wikimania?
[14:30:52] * kim_bruning guesses so ... (checks program)
[14:39:16] <kim_bruning>	 hmm, no semantic on the wikimania program, how about that?
[14:53:02] <smw-github>	 [SemanticMediaWiki] kghbln pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/ewIaUA
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[15:38:08] <Yaron>	 kim_bruning: hi; no, I won't be at Wikimania.
[15:38:34] <Yaron>	 You could try doing the same query with the "table" format or some such, to try to isolate the problem.
[15:40:44] <kim_bruning>	 That's what I did, right?
[15:41:01] <Yaron>	 I don't know.
[15:41:21] <kim_bruning>	 http://vps753.greenhost.nl/acceptatie/index.php/Personen
[15:41:48] <kim_bruning>	 wait, I altered that query
[15:41:49] <kim_bruning>	 1 sec
[15:42:10] <Yaron>	 Anyway, does the same problem happen in the table?
[15:42:25] <kim_bruning>	 nope! :-)
[15:43:11] <kim_bruning>	 I do have a lot of un-done jobs atm
[15:43:26] <kim_bruning>	 jobqueue is pretty large indeed
[15:43:37] <kim_bruning>	 but I'd expect this subset of pages to work
[15:44:05] <kim_bruning>	 and the gallery is ==info 3== , table == info 4 ==
[15:44:10] <Yaron>	 Well, the two queries are hitting the same set of data.
[15:44:17] <kim_bruning>	 right?
[15:44:20] <Yaron>	 ...regardless of which jobs have run.
[15:44:29] <kim_bruning>	 <nod>
[15:44:48] <kim_bruning>	 so my first thought is something I ran into earlier with #ifexists
[15:45:13] <kim_bruning>	 that there's a check to see if the image exists in the wiki, which of course some don't (since they're InstantCommons)
[15:45:43] <kim_bruning>	 but I could be way off track. 99% of the time the bug is in one's own work, not in the extension :-)
[15:47:00] <kim_bruning>	 how come you're not at wikimania btw? or are you going to wikisym instead or so?
[15:47:26] <kim_bruning>	 ;-)
[15:47:28] <Yaron>	 No, not going to either.
[15:48:25] <kim_bruning>	 Okay :-)
[15:48:45] <Yaron>	 Which are the two relevant queries, that are just like one another except for the format?
[15:49:46] <kim_bruning>	 there was actually 1 extra clause <scratches head>
[15:49:55] * kim_bruning triplechecks
[15:50:33] <kim_bruning>	 http://vps753.greenhost.nl/acceptatie/index.php/Personen
[15:50:48] <kim_bruning>	 2 relevant queries are under ==Info 3 == and ==Info 4==
[15:51:48] <kim_bruning>	 the latter just has the format=gallery and related config removed
[15:55:54] <Yaron>	 That's quite a difference in the output!
[15:56:55] <kim_bruning>	 quite so
[15:57:02] <kim_bruning>	 some of it is explainable
[15:57:36] <kim_bruning>	 to wit, only pages with afbeeldingb are actually showable in gallery
[15:58:03] <kim_bruning>	 (with non-null afbeeldingb column)
[15:58:12] <kim_bruning>	 sorry this is in dutch. Dutch project and all ^^;;
[15:58:12] <Yaron>	 That doesn't seem to explain any of these differences...
[15:58:24] <Yaron>	 No problem.
[15:58:35] <kim_bruning>	 well,  if I make a local info page for an instantcommons image
[15:58:38] <kim_bruning>	 it shows up ;-)
[15:58:52] * kim_bruning tries
[15:59:31] <kim_bruning>	 yup, bingo
[15:59:47] * kim_bruning reloads http://vps753.greenhost.nl/acceptatie/index.php/Personen
[15:59:56] <kim_bruning>	 Hans van den Bergh shows up under Info 3
[16:00:03] <kim_bruning>	 so it's InstantCommons related
[16:00:43] <kim_bruning>	 my earlier problem with IfExists  said that I should be looking for Media:<imagename>  not  File:<imagename> if I want to see if an image exists at all (instantcommons inclusive)
[16:01:13] <kim_bruning>	 But I'm unsure where I might want to be looking in the php for that
[16:01:36] <kim_bruning>	 (#IfExists comes from ParserFunctions of course)
[16:02:21] <Yaron>	 Oh, strange... so "table" respects InstantCommons but "gallery" doesn't.
[16:02:43] <kim_bruning>	 *nod*
[16:02:44] <Yaron>	 Maybe there's hack to get around that, but that seems like a bug in Semantic Result Formats - I would suggest filing a bug report for it.
[16:03:06] <kim_bruning>	 I also may have a small budget to get it fixed
[16:03:12] <Yaron>	 Great.
[16:04:13] <kim_bruning>	 Oh wait, you're in .us though :-/ It's hard to transfer money to/from .us :-/
[16:04:18] <kim_bruning>	 doable though
[16:05:42] * kim_bruning will look up where to file bug reports
[16:06:12] <Yaron>	 I wouldn't be fixing this bug, anyway - I haven't done SRF/SMW coding in a long time.
[16:06:36] <kim_bruning>	 Ah, hence :-)
[16:08:33] * kim_bruning was also wondering if I could do stuff like only return results that start with A, B, C ... etc, if I want to control output myself. (due to there being a Design Bureau and all ^^;;)
[16:10:21] <Yaron>	 Well, there's the "listwidget" format, or something like that, that does that... although I don't know if it can be combined with gallery stuff...
[16:11:45] <kim_bruning>	 not alphabet AND page at the same time <scratches head>
[16:11:49] <kim_bruning>	 but it does have b y alphabet at least
[16:12:08] * kim_bruning have to do some coding this autumn ;-)
[16:12:13] <kim_bruning>	 may have to do some coding
[16:12:20] <kim_bruning>	 (like I would ^^;;)
[16:19:00] <kim_bruning>	 Yaron: thanks for your help so far!
[16:20:30] <kim_bruning>	 Yaron: any ideas where I might be able to find said hack btw? ^^;;
[16:21:02] <kim_bruning>	 well, I guess the workaround might be to not use gallery at all, and just build everything using templates IIRC
[16:37:28] <Yaron>	 kim_bruning: oh, I have no idea if it's possible... you mentioned something about #ifexists.
[16:40:48] <kim_bruning>	 ^^;;
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[21:09:17] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Jatin: Making SF pass JSHint test [extensions/SemanticForms] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/151970 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61630)
[21:09:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) jenkins-bot: [V: -1] Making SF pass JSHint test [extensions/SemanticForms] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/151970 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61630) (owner: Jatin)
[21:44:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Foxtrott: [C: 1] "I am always somewhat apprehensive when changing == to ===, but the patch looks good." [extensions/SemanticForms] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/151970 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61630) (owner: Jatin)