[02:32:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Yaron Koren: Revert of r106939 [extensions/SemanticForms] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/109608
[02:33:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Raimond Spekking: [C: 2 V: 2] Localisation updates from https://translatewiki.net. [extensions/Maps] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/109552 (owner: L10n-bot)
[02:40:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Yaron Koren: [C: 2 V: 1] Revert of r106939 [extensions/SemanticForms] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/109608 (owner: Yaron Koren)
[02:40:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (Merged) jenkins-bot: Revert of r106939 [extensions/SemanticForms] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/109608 (owner: Yaron Koren)
[04:37:20] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki#740 (db-setup - 3e4bf4f : mwjames): The build is still failing.
[04:37:20] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki/compare/714ce7a14e27...3e4bf4fd4aaa
[04:37:20] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki/builds/17678386
[12:05:41] <Flexman>	 hi!
[12:06:20] <Flexman>	 say what's the advantage from semantic-forms over forms (which wasn't developed since 2009)
[12:35:48] <Saruman>	 semantic forms works; forms I don't even know of
[12:39:18] <Flexman>	 lol i see
[14:42:45] <bierepedia>	 Goodmorning !
[14:43:13] <bierepedia>	 Hi Yaron!
[14:43:30] <bierepedia>	 How are you?
[14:44:56] <bierepedia>	 Any way to delete all the forms I made and rebuild them ? Or simply modify them in a visual way?
[14:45:28] <bierepedia>	 I also need to delete all the templates I made.
[14:57:57] <Yaron>	 bierepedia: hello!
[14:58:10] <Yaron>	 What do you mean by "in a visual way"?
[14:58:24] <bierepedia>	 Like when you create them
[14:58:30] <Yaron>	 Ah, I see.
[14:58:43] <Yaron>	 The only way to do that is via the Page Schemas extension, if you know that one.
[14:59:13] <bierepedia>	 I installed it but when I go into the special page there is nothing
[14:59:25] <bierepedia>	 just like the signup one
[14:59:46] <Yaron>	 Ah, right, you said something about that before.
[15:00:05] <Yaron>	 See here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Errors_and_symptoms#You_see_a_Blank_Page
[15:00:31] <bierepedia>	 thanks
[15:03:36] <bierepedia>	 Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/content/17/11230817/html/bierepedia.com/extensions/WikiBanner/WikiBanner.php:3) in /home/content/17/11230817/html/bierepedia.com/includes/WebResponse.php on line 38
[15:06:02] <bierepedia>	 so it is a conflict with my wikibanner !
[15:06:36] <bierepedia>	 if I relocate my wikibanner requirement after semantic.
[15:08:55] <Yaron>	 Are you sure that's the entire error message? There's nothing before that?
[15:09:11] <Yaron>	 ...or after it?
[15:09:45] <bierepedia>	 nope nothing
[15:11:39] <bierepedia>	 Notice undefined variable
[15:11:46] <bierepedia>	 in my wikibanner
[15:14:57] <bierepedia>	 Yaron I think that my wikibanner script is not compatible with semantic
[15:15:21] <bierepedia>	 is there a semantic extension to add banners on mediawiki
[15:20:42] <bierepedia>	 nope even if I disable the wikibanner nothing appear.
[15:54:37] <Yaron>	 bierepedia: Ah! "notice undefined variable" is not nothing. :)
[15:55:18] <Yaron>	 That's the issue (although it's a minor issue); but it's not related to SMW, it's just poor coding by the Wikibanner creator.
[15:55:43] <bierepedia>	 LOL can we fix that ?
[15:55:51] <Yaron>	 Sure, we can do anything.
[15:56:00] <Yaron>	 But if you disable Wikibanner, you see a blank page again?
[15:56:08] <bierepedia>	 yes
[15:56:19] <bierepedia>	 and no error message at all
[15:56:36] <Yaron>	 That's very strange... and you still have the display_errors() thing in LocalSettings.php?
[15:57:07] <bierepedia>	 yes
[15:59:45] <bierepedia>	 But I hadn't notice the notice... lol
[16:04:47] <bierepedia>	 this is making me angry. :( I wish I would have a good system.
[16:08:10] <bierepedia>	 Yaron by default it is sysop that has acces to page schemas
[16:09:04] <Yaron>	 That's true, yes.
[16:09:36] <bierepedia>	 still not showing... :(
[16:13:15] <bierepedia>	 Yaron do you think I should re-install the whole wiki?
[16:13:58] <bierepedia>	 does the schema ext add a database ?
[16:19:40] <Yaron>	 No, and no.
[16:20:02] <Yaron>	 What is the page you're going to, that shows blank?
[16:20:31] <bierepedia>	 Thanks. I feared the yes for the first question
[16:29:56] <bierepedia>	 Yaron I'm using sublime text so there is no BOM into my files ...
[16:30:12] <Yaron>	 ?
[16:31:09] <bierepedia>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Errors_and_symptoms#Warning:_Cannot_modify_header_information_-_headers_already_sent_by_.28....29
[16:32:13] <bierepedia>	 but now. How could I do it without the extension ?
[16:32:16] <Yaron>	 That "Most likely" thing is incorrect.
[16:32:30] <Yaron>	 Anyway - what about my question?
[16:32:43] <Yaron>	 "What is the page you're going to, that shows blank?"
[16:34:48] <bierepedia>	 The special page for page schema
[16:35:12] <Yaron>	 What specifically is the URL?
[16:35:13] <bierepedia>	 and the special page for semantic signup
[16:36:12] <bierepedia>	 http://bierepedia.com/index.php?title=Sp%C3%A9cial:EditSchema
[16:36:29] <bierepedia>	 I tried with special but it send me back there
[16:36:38] <Yaron>	 It doesn't appear blank to me.
[16:37:01] <bierepedia>	 huh ?
[16:37:08] <Yaron>	 Are you literally seeing a blank page?
[16:37:33] <bierepedia>	 I see my banner
[16:37:55] <Yaron>	 Fine, yes - you're seeing the same thing I see; the wiki shows up correctly, but there's no content there.
[16:38:03] <bierepedia>	 I wasn't seeing anything
[16:38:06] <Yaron>	 That's what Special:EditSchema shows, by default.
[16:38:19] <bierepedia>	 ok so how do I use it ?
[16:38:26] <Yaron>	 :)
[16:38:46] <Yaron>	 Go to a category page, and select the "Edit schema" action.
[16:39:16] <bierepedia>	 http://bierepedia.com/index.php?title=Sp%C3%A9cial:SemanticSignup
[16:39:30] <bierepedia>	 and this one is it the by default too?
[16:40:26] <bierepedia>	 http://bierepedia.com/index.php?title=Cat%C3%A9gorie:Pays
[16:40:47] <bierepedia>	 I don't see the edit schema action in my category page
[16:46:18] <bierepedia>	 stupid me it's in the dropdown
[16:48:03] <bierepedia>	 ok so how do you modify a form with it
[16:48:20] <bierepedia>	 I go on my form and do the same ?
[16:49:06] <Yaron>	 No - you have to re-create the form, unfortunatey.
[16:49:11] <Yaron>	 unfortunately
[16:49:21] <Yaron>	 But once you do that, you can then easily re-modify it.
[16:49:57] <bierepedia>	 ok so I just delete all the form pages an restart. good that's what I wanted
[16:50:00] <Yaron>	 I don't know much about Special:SemanticSignup, unfortunately.
[16:50:13] <Yaron>	 You don't need to delete them - they'll get overwritten.
[16:50:21] <bierepedia>	 ok
[16:55:49] <bierepedia>	 Yaron is there a way to fetch geolocation data with semantic map. So I can create map markers without having to ask my users to add the longitude latitude ? (search by adress or name)
[16:58:24] <Yaron>	 Yes - it's explained in the Semantic Maps documenation, I think.
[16:58:36] <Yaron>	 Though it's better to have users add the coordinates directly.
[16:58:49] <Yaron>	 It's not that hard to do, if you have a map-based form input.
[17:03:39] <bierepedia>	 will do.
[17:03:55] <bierepedia>	 instantimage ? webcam image ?
[17:08:10] <Yaron>	 ?
[17:11:54] <bierepedia>	 in my input list I have instantimage
[17:12:55] <bierepedia>	 oh if I want to add a Opening hours table inside a template ... how could I do that ?
[17:20:42] <bierepedia>	 Yaron : Warning: Missing argument 2 for ParamProcessor\ParamDefinition::__construct(), called in /home/content/17/11230817/html/bierepedia.com/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_QueryProcessor.php on line 589 and defined in /home/content/17/11230817/html/bierepedia.com/vendor/param-processor/param-processor/src/ParamProcessor/ParamDefinition.php on line 172  Fatal error: Call to a member function setPrintReque
[17:22:39] <bierepedia>	 food time bbl
[19:07:37] <bierepedia>	 back from lunch
[19:41:06] <bierepedia>	 Yaron did you see the error message I pasted earlier ?