[10:41:23] (PS3) Nischayn22: [WIP]Adding support for DataVisualizer [extensions/SemanticDrilldown] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/98390 [15:32:37] (PS4) Nischayn22: [WIP]Adding support for DataVisualizer [extensions/SemanticDrilldown] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/98390 [17:15:54] (PS5) Nischayn22: [WIP]Adding support for DataVisualizer [extensions/SemanticDrilldown] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/98390 [17:31:24] (PS6) Nischayn22: [WIP]Adding support for DataVisualizer [extensions/SemanticDrilldown] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/98390 [18:39:12] Hello, I'm researching for my office. Is there a way to do processes with mediawiki? to be specific a series of forms for each stage of the process. [18:51:54] WarWeasle: yes and no [18:52:17] How so? [18:52:22] it kinda depends on what you mean when you say "do processes" [18:52:48] SMW transforms MW into a very powerful wiki [18:52:55] but in the end, it's still a wiki [18:53:05] it can't toast bread, so to speak [18:54:04] Ok. It just seemed like it would be a nice basis for ad hoc processes and data. [18:54:53] it's a data base alright... [18:55:46] The ability to modify a purchase order with abatrary data would be very powerful. [18:55:53] it can do that [18:56:42] but because it's a wiki, you can't for example arbitrarily protect data fields, or make forms unmutable after they're created [18:57:35] It looks like it can create the first step, but how would you feed that to data to the next. [18:58:08] depends on what you want, the data model you create for that, and the forms and pages that you build on that data model [18:58:09] I trust my users. Security is not a problem. We crave flexibility. [18:58:37] Ok, so I just need to play with forms some more. [18:58:41] yep [18:58:44] you in the US? [18:58:51] Yes. [18:59:01] keep an eye out for Yaron in this channel [18:59:14] he can help you create the data model and the forms you need [18:59:23] he's got a consultancy position in NY [18:59:57] purchase his book from http://workingwithmediawiki.com/ [19:00:05] it'll set you up good [19:00:56] that looks like what I need. Thank you. [19:01:33] Although I'm doing this a guerilla project. [19:01:42] drop by in this channel any time [19:02:14] I'm here most evenings (Amsterdam time) [19:03:28] Thank you again. I don't know if this will succeed but it's tantalizingly close. [19:04:42] if possible, set up a sandbox wiki that's accessible from the Internet, so you can ask for help if you get stuck [19:05:04] and my personal tip: create a formal data model before you start building in ernest [19:05:58] Wiki set up. I'm not on that computer however now. [19:41:17] hi [19:44:56] maybe someone can help me :) I want to set an attribute with data type date. Is the format YYYYMMDD a valid format and can be used by SMW? (example: [[Has date::20131214]]). Or have there to be delimiters? [19:46:37] Grinhorn: there are only a number of formats recognized as dates [19:46:45] non-delimited isn't one of them I think [19:47:19] http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Type_Date [19:47:26] I read this ;) [19:48:23] but i doesn't know, if this a concluding list [19:48:47] It's safer to assume that it is, than the opposite [19:49:16] that's because I am asking - thought maybe someone KNOWS it ;) [19:49:52] heh [19:50:45] it's smarter to ask, than not to ask [19:51:00] unfortunately I don't conclusively KNOW :-/ [19:59:19] thank you anyway :) [20:06:29] Grinhorn: just tested for you [20:06:38] result: "The date is 20131214 This is interpreted as 22 August 1970 00:00:14. " [20:06:56] so now I know (for SMW 1.8.0.5): the answer is "no" [20:06:58] interesting :P [20:07:09] thank you very much :) [20:07:13] np