[00:40:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Mwjames: [C: -1] "Doing -1 now because some nifty changes are coming based on the usage of DIC and when merging will be marked with alpha-3." [extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/61171 (owner: Mwjames)
[00:58:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Mwjames: [C: -1] "Don't bother, needs consolidation and goes into alpha-3" [extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78964 (owner: Mwjames)
[00:59:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Mwjames: [C: -1] "Don't bother, needs consolidation and goes into alpha-3" [extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80365 (owner: Mwjames)
[00:59:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Mwjames: [C: -1] "Don't bother, needs consolidation and goes into alpha-3" [extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77493 (owner: Mwjames)
[01:06:47] <betz>	 Does anyone knows why the sort in this json link is not respected? http://hackerspace.be/Json/events-upcoming
[01:35:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Mwjames: [C: -1] "Doing -1 for now because I'm not sure what do to with it. Possible dependencies are minimized as best as possible but should it be part of" [extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56393 (owner: Mwjames)
[01:42:53] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Mwjames: "Haven't forgotten about this but I needed to make some necessary adjustments so that generally used mock objects (such as [1]) are accesse" [extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/74329 (owner: Netbrain)
[02:53:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS2) Mwjames: [DIC]: SMWHooks::onNewRevisionFromEditComplete to \SMW\NewRevisionFromEditComplete [extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83377
[04:25:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Mwjames: [C: 2] [DIC]: SMWHooks::onNewRevisionFromEditComplete to \SMW\NewRevisionFromEditComplete [extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83377 (owner: Mwjames)
[04:26:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (Merged) jenkins-bot: [DIC]: SMWHooks::onNewRevisionFromEditComplete to \SMW\NewRevisionFromEditComplete [extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83377 (owner: Mwjames)
[05:40:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Jeroen De Dauw: "(2 comments)" [extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/74329 (owner: Netbrain)
[07:20:12] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Mwjames: SMWHooks::onSpecialStatsAddExtra -> SMW\SpecialStatsAddExtra [extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83608
[08:06:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS2) Mwjames: SMWHooks::onSpecialStatsAddExtra -> SMW\SpecialStatsAddExtra [extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83608
[11:43:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Mwjames: \SMW\TableResultPrinter move mock objects into MockObjectRepository [extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83627
[11:45:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS2) Mwjames: \SMW\TableResultPrinter move mock objects into MockObjectRepository [extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83627
[11:51:53] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Mwjames: [C: 2] \SMW\TableResultPrinterTest move mock objects into MockObjectRepository [extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83627 (owner: Mwjames)
[11:53:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (Merged) jenkins-bot: \SMW\TableResultPrinterTest move mock objects into MockObjectRepository [extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83627 (owner: Mwjames)
[12:30:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Mwjames: "I cleaned up [1] the unit test (which means you need to rebase your change set, sorry for that) in a way that object composition and asser" [extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/74329 (owner: Netbrain)
[16:13:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Jeroen De Dauw: Run build with multiple MW versions [extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83631
[16:14:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Mwjames: "Can't really tell if this will work or not" [extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83631 (owner: Jeroen De Dauw)
[16:14:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Jeroen De Dauw: "(1 comment)" [extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83608 (owner: Mwjames)
[16:14:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Jeroen De Dauw: "(6 comments)" [extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83608 (owner: Mwjames)
[16:14:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Mwjames: "(4 comments)" [extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83608 (owner: Mwjames)
[16:14:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Mwjames: "(1 comment)" [extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83608 (owner: Mwjames)
[16:14:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 2] "Lets find out then :D" [extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83631 (owner: Jeroen De Dauw)
[16:14:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Jeroen De Dauw: "(1 comment)" [extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83608 (owner: Mwjames)
[16:14:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Jeroen De Dauw: Do not clone with depth one in travis build so we can use tags [extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83635
[16:14:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 2] Do not clone with depth one in travis build so we can use tags [extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83635 (owner: Jeroen De Dauw)
[16:14:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (Merged) jenkins-bot: Do not clone with depth one in travis build so we can use tags [extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83635 (owner: Jeroen De Dauw)
[16:14:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Mwjames: "[1] says:" [extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83631 (owner: Jeroen De Dauw)
[16:36:37] <sven^>	 yaron: thanks
[16:36:48] <sven^>	 (for answering my question a few days ago)
[16:37:07] <yaron>	 Oh... you're welcome!
[16:39:54] <sven^>	 I have another question. I want to add a form for "quiz questions" to my wiki. So we have a quiz evening every monday and I want to document which questions we asked
[16:40:16] <sven^>	 the form itself only has to have date - question - answer fields
[16:40:51] <sven^>	 but I have like 30 questions for each date so it would be cool if I could use a "multiple" form to add questions for a specific date
[16:41:29] <sven^>	 so is it either possible to create multiple pages out of one form - one for each question/answer-pair; or is there maybe a better way to save them?
[16:42:18] <sven^>	 maybe something like "questions 11.09.2013" which lists all questions for that date but also sets the semantic properties in a way so each question can be found as a single result
[16:42:22] <sven^>	 (by #ask)
[16:43:44] <yaron>	 Well, it's up to you whether all the questions are stored in one page, or whether it's one page per date, or whether it's one page per question.
[16:43:54] <yaron>	 All three are equally possible.
[16:45:00] <sven^>	 yeah, but I am usually having trouble setting properties in the right way when there are multiple properties of the same type on one page
[16:45:22] <sven^>	 hmm, maybe with subobjects?
[16:47:09] <sven^>	 ah well, I'll play around a bit and see what I can do
[16:47:13] <sven^>	 thanks anyways ;)
[16:53:01] <yaron>	 sven^: yes, you need either subobjects or the Semantic Internal Objects extension.
[17:05:18] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Jeroen De Dauw: Have code coverage only run for the mysql build against master [extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83660
[17:05:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 2 V: 2] Have code coverage only run for the mysql build against master [extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83660 (owner: Jeroen De Dauw)
[17:30:17] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Jeroen De Dauw: Update path in travis config [extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83665
[17:30:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 2] Update path in travis config [extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83665 (owner: Jeroen De Dauw)
[17:33:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (Merged) jenkins-bot: Update path in travis config [extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83665 (owner: Jeroen De Dauw)
[18:57:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Jeroen De Dauw: Add scrutinizer config [extensions/Ask] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83682
[19:01:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Jeroen De Dauw: Add scrutinizer config [extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83684
[19:01:53] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 2] Add scrutinizer config [extensions/Ask] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83682 (owner: Jeroen De Dauw)
[19:01:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 2] Add scrutinizer config [extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83684 (owner: Jeroen De Dauw)
[19:11:38] <ahmed____>	 hi
[19:12:03] <ahmed____>	 can i know the deference between mediawiki and SemanticMediaWiki ?
[19:12:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Jeroen De Dauw: Do not run code coverage as we can still not do a full Composer install with MW [extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83690
[19:12:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 2 V: 2] Do not run code coverage as we can still not do a full Composer install with MW [extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83690 (owner: Jeroen De Dauw)
[19:14:50] <ahmed____>	 can i know the deference between mediawiki and SemanticMediaWiki ?
[19:17:02] <ahmed____>	 hellllllloooooooooooooooooo
[19:17:05] <ahmed____>	 can i know the deference between mediawiki and SemanticMediaWiki ?
[19:38:39] <yaron>	 ahmed____: Semantic MediaWiki is an extension to MediaWiki.
[19:39:42] <ahmed____>	 i have problem  and i need to know if semantic can solve it
[19:40:39] <ahmed____>	 i need to create page like this https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Arts
[19:42:33] <ahmed____>	 have categorys and each categeory have summarized article and " more' button refer to the article
[19:42:41] <ahmed____>	 it can help????
[19:43:09] <yaron>	 ahmed____: probably not for that case.
[19:46:32] <ahmed____>	 ok what is semantic do???
[19:50:16] <ahmed___>	 sorry disconect
[19:50:35] <ahmed___>	 what semantic do??
[19:52:01] <ahmed___>	 ?
[19:55:30] <yaron>	 ahmed___: it lets you store data in pages, and then display that same data in other pages.
[19:56:57] <ahmed____>	 i'm so sorry yaron
[19:59:21] <ahmed____>	 what semantic-mediawiki do to my wiki???
[20:00:19] <yaron>	 Have you read the explanations at semantic-mediawiki.org?
[20:02:59] <ahmed____>	 not yet
[20:08:23] <yaron>	 That might help.
[20:09:42] <ahmed____>	 ok if you know can you help me in this or tell me who can i ask
[20:09:47] <ahmed____>	 my eq# that i need to creat bage like this have categorys and each category have summery and each summery article have button "more" refer to the article like  https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Arts
[20:13:58] <ahmed____>	 and how i change my name here??
[20:21:51] <ahmed____>	 | ahmed
[20:21:58] <ahmed____>	 |ahmed
[20:29:47] <ahmed____>	   /nick <ahmed>
[20:47:40] <betz>	 is there a way to have defaults for properties?
[20:51:55] <yaron>	 betz: if you're using templates to store the data, yes.
[20:52:16] <yaron>	 You can have "[[property-name::{{{field-name|default}}}]]".
[20:59:53] <betz>	 aha, thanks yaron
[21:09:00] <betz>	 yaron:  [[archived::!true]] doesn't show me the ones which are set to false, you know why?
[21:09:10] <betz>	  [[archived::true]] works for true
[22:00:37] <sven^>	 heya.. I have another (maybe strange) question: Is it possible to "group" results of #ask by merging result rows? For example if I have 10x the result Date=20.09.2013 with different times, is it possible to show only 1 value in the date column to make it visually clearer that all those results have the same date?
[22:29:33] <betz>	 Can someone explain me http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Inverse_Properties please?