[00:00:39] New review: Krinkle; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/63397 [00:12:11] New patchset: Mwjames; "Fix some JS related docs in smw-core (JSDuck)" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/63397 [00:12:57] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/63397 [00:30:06] New review: Krinkle; "fixme: various issues that suggest this has never been tested with jsduck, thus making the "fixes" r..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/63397 [00:30:27] New review: Krinkle; "Looks like it was self-merged while I was reviewing." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/63397 [01:05:52] New review: Mwjames; "Thanks for the comments, I'll have a crack on this when I have more time on hand." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/63397 [01:11:30] New patchset: Mwjames; "Use QUnit.start()" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/63402 [01:12:30] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/63402 [02:08:17] New patchset: Mwjames; "Add smw.dataItem.wikiPage.getText()" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62536 [02:11:07] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62536 [02:12:47] New patchset: Mwjames; "srf.formats.datatables() use getNamespaceId()" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/63405 [02:13:33] New review: Mwjames; "Thanks QUnit ..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/63405 [02:13:42] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/63405 [02:33:29] yaron: I found a use for {{#arraymap:}} that doesn't use SMW [02:33:44] Okay. :) [02:33:59] {{#arraymap: {{{1}}} | , | x | [[x]]}} [02:34:58] Sure... in theory, people could want that. In practice, I've never seen that kind of thing be done outside SMW. [02:36:54] Probably because most people who do that are using [[Property::x]] instead of [[x]]. [02:38:29] Well, I deal with a fair number of non-SMW-using wikis as well, through my consulting, so I tend to know the usage patterns of those kinds of wikis as well. [02:38:54] Something like #arraymap has never come up, for what it's worth. [02:39:44] Maybe because they don't know about it? [02:40:02] Anyways, I'm just giving a data point. [02:40:08] Well, the need for something like #arraymap has never come up. [02:40:11] Okay, thanks. [02:40:42] Also, you mentioned there was a way to make SMW objects without making new pages. [02:40:54] Yes - #subobject. [02:42:23] How would I make an object called "Voice" that has the property [[Definition::A user with '''voice''' may send messages to a channel even when the channel is moderated.]] [02:42:58] Is it defined via a template, or not? [02:43:19] It is not. [02:44:01] Alright - {{#subobject:-|Part of page={{PAGENAME}}|Definition=A user...}} [02:48:55] It showed up with the name 'Glossary': http://www.irc-wiki.org/Glossary [02:49:33] Well, that's the display name - if you hover over it, you'll see the full name. [02:49:57] Can I change the display name? [02:50:39] No, but you can set another property for the display, and query on that instead, using "mainlabel=-" (which I'd recommend using anyway for subobjects.) [02:51:38] What would that look like? [02:51:55] Add "|mainlabel=-" to the query. [02:52:14] Would I need to add "Part of page=" to the other pages? [02:52:43] Well... it's weird to query subobjects in the same context as regular pages. [02:52:55] So I don't know how to answer that question; it depends on your data structure. [02:53:51] Well, I'm getting pestered for making stub articles. But I still want the data semantically. :/ [02:54:19] I think they should all be regular pages, or all be subobjects. [02:54:56] So there's no way to have phantom pages then. :/ [02:55:54] I... guess? [02:59:33] Welp. I'm still waiting on [[Category:!Name]], so I won't make a feature request for phantom pages. [03:02:55] Welp indeed. [03:10:13] I'll even take [[!Category:Name]] [03:31:00] Got a quick question to anyone who may know the answer: [03:32:25] I'm running SMW and SemanticForms on my site. The last time I had update was early 2012 on MW1.18. I update MW to latest, all went fine. I updated SMW using the Semantic Bundle. Now my Semantic code and queries in pages do nothing. They exist when you edit, but return simply blankness. [03:33:12] Every extension is still activated. I tried reverting back to localsettings instead of letting the bundle handle it, still nothing. [03:52:16] blank usually means internal error ... but patience seems to be lacking [14:14:28] Yaron: I'm back. Well, I'm kind of fine with saying titles have to be more than one character. More meaningful anyway. So, hopefully that fixes it [14:15:04] Alright. [14:15:45] hi all. are there any ACL extensions that are known to work with recent SMW ? for example http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AccessControl thanks [14:17:14] also, will rich text editor work with current semantic forms ? thanks again [14:19:59] Could anyone point me in the right direction for putting minimum chararcter length on {{#forminput:form=New Adventure}} ? Google is no help [14:20:20] nostriluu: I don't know about the ACL one (though my guess is no), but if by "rich text editor" you mean any of the FCKeditor/CKEditor-based extensions, then no. [14:20:41] salamanderxander: oh, actually, I think there's no such capability. [14:21:07] (Though the SF wiki page is a better resource than Google, I think.) [14:21:16] Darn. Maybe mediawiki itself then? Extension to enforce character count? [14:21:29] I... doubt it. [14:24:46] thanks Yaron. i guess rich text editor is something else that fell off the bandwagon [14:25:07] Well, in a sense it fell off a long time ago... [14:26:50] i thought it recently worked in the general text area, just not in forms. [14:32:58] nostriluu: No, I don't think either FCKeditor or CKeditor have worked in MW since version 1.16 or so, if I'm not mistaken. [14:34:48] ok, well that's too bad [15:37:49] i've just come up with the dumbest scheme to solve my no-ACL problem. make the entire wiki closed except for a base page that hosts a popup form, use a query to indicate success [15:38:19] https://wiki.equalit.ie/wiki/Problem [15:45:39] nostriluu: why not just use a .htaccess file or something like that? [15:47:52] i'm not sure how that would work. i do want to enable access to a few pages [15:48:07] just to create problem reports, everything else should require log in [15:48:48] Ah - I guess it's more than one "base page", then. [15:50:19] yeah. this is awfully hacky, but seems like it should work [18:10:03] New patchset: Mwjames; "SMW\ApiResultPrinter check for is_integer/is_bool as well" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/63494 [18:11:53] New patchset: Mwjames; "SRF\EventCalendar eliminate parameters bool hack" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/63495 [18:18:29] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/63494 [18:19:21] New review: Mwjames; "Dependency merged [1]" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/63495 [18:21:30] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/63495