[01:00:04] New patchset: Mwjames; "Use correponding PageLanguage to determine NS_FILE" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/58646 [01:14:07] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/58646 [13:09:19] New patchset: Mwjames; "(Bug 47123) Aggregate numbers based on the mainlabel indication" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/58689 [13:25:22] hey :) [13:25:42] how do i get rid of doubled entries in the semantic database? [13:46:19] STalKer-X: double entries? [13:46:25] Guess you could run the refersh data script [13:47:57] i give you an example [13:47:58] http://de.vroniplag.wikia.com/index.php?title=Spezial%3ASemantische_Suche&q=[[Kuerzel%3A%3AJkr]]&po=%3FTypus%0D%0A%3FQuelle%0D%0A%3FFragmentStatus%0D%0A&sort_num=&order_num=ASC&eq=yes&p[format]=broadtable&p[limit]=500&p[sort]=&p[offset]=&p[headers]=show&p[mainlabel]=&p[link]=all&p[searchlabel]=&p[intro]=&p[outro]=&p[default]=&p[class]=sortable+wikitable+smwtable&eq=yes [13:47:59] New patchset: Mwjames; "(Bug 47123) Aggregate numbers based on the mainlabel indication" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/58689 [13:48:17] that search gives the second entry twice [13:48:30] but the page only exists once, of course :) [13:48:56] if the page is deleted, one entry is removed, but the other one still shows, in red this time [13:49:11] because the page of course does not exist [13:51:37] JeroenDeDauw: if you mean the option from admin panel, no luck. [13:52:07] STalKer-X: what SMW version are you using? [13:52:34] that is 1.7.1 [14:14:07] STalKer-X: I'm afraid we no longer support the storage engine used in that version [14:14:16] Upgrading to 1.8 probably solves the issue [14:15:44] tell that wikia :)) [14:16:04] i personally would have upgraded to 1.8 [16:36:59] hey JeroenDeDauw, are you here ? [16:37:39] JeroenDeDauw: any idea why upgrading to 1.8 would probably solve my issue? [16:38:02] because of the better performance and new storage engine? [16:40:25] Different storage engine, so bug in storage engine is likely not there [16:40:37] If there actually is such a bug in the old one... [16:40:51] nostriluu: perhaps? :P [16:41:29] hi JeroenDeDauw ! a while ago on the smw mailing list you referred to "Onto SMW 1.9" .. but i can't find any further references. can you expand on it ? [16:42:14] nostriluu: ??? I do not know what that is [16:42:23] So think you are confusing people :) [16:42:47] [SMW-devel] Onto SMW 1.9 RC1 [16:42:51] 28 March, 2013 [16:42:55] maybe gmail is confused (= [16:45:03] it was posted by you, but perhaps there were some wires cross. of course a lot of people are interested in an update for the smw that shall not be named [16:49:52] nostriluu: I seem to remember that thread - I think that was "onto" as in "on to". :) [16:50:39] oh hah hah that makes sense http://wikimedia.7.x6.nabble.com/Onto-SMW-1-9-RC1-td5000553.html [16:50:49] it did end up getting a few people excited [16:50:55] and confused [16:51:17] Man - one missing space is all it takes, I guess. :) [16:51:51] (= [18:04:54] what is this "has query" property for? [18:05:30] does anyone know how this property is used? thanks [18:05:36] It's for keeping a record of all queries. [18:05:43] to what purpose [18:12:26] ok, another topic then. I want to remove/block smw's "dot" operator in queries' predicates. Anyone have any ideas where's that located in the code? thanks [18:15:15] i mean, i want to block property chaining [18:15:19] hypergrove: so that pages can "inform" queries that they should be updated, if the information in the page changes. [18:15:37] ah that helps, thanks yaron [18:15:58] I don't know the answer to that second question... that sounds like a bad idea... [18:17:24] hmm, why do you say that? it seems to be syntactic sugar [18:18:18] [[located in.member of::European Union] === [[located in::[[member of::European Union]]]] [18:21:19] I have a much better use for the "dot", to signify a text, not an object property. example: Title vs Title.text vs .text [18:22:52] "In the rare case that a property should contain a dot in its name, one may start the query with a space to prevent SMW from interpreting this dot in a special way. " So I guess there's a workaround here to try first [18:29:27] it works to start the predicate with a space. a little subtle perhaps for many people [18:43:37] I'm creating subobjects with "namespace + objname" keys, and it's working okay so far [19:17:58] Yaron or someone - can I have an embedded template in a partial form? [19:18:34] I think so... though I don't recomend using partial forms, in general. [19:18:47] oh, why not? [19:19:08] They're a hack that doesn't work very well; I hope to get rid of them. [19:19:46] i haven't used them in a while and as I recall they're good for inserting template calls unconnected with the template that 'defines' a page [19:21:48] as I understand them, they're used to append/delete templates to a page - why is this not a good thing [19:25:08] The problem, among other things, is that the partial form doesn't know where in the apge to add those additional templates. [19:25:40] It's better to use a real form, that includes all the templates but only the relevant fields. [19:26:30] so the partial form is pretty much being replaced by embedded templates I guess [19:27:08] Actually, I'm not sure what you mean by embedded templates. [19:27:32] oh maybe I'm using the wrong term - let me look it up [19:28:49] holds template - Specifies that this field is meant to hold a multiple-instance template, and does not have its own form input. It is used in conjunction with the "embed in field" parameter for the 'for template' tag (see above). [19:30:31] does the partial form simply append the template call to the end of a page, and it is then visible to the user in the standard input field? [19:32:29] I guess the trouble with partial form is that it doesn't provide a 'clean' interface for deleting/editing a template call. fair enough [22:49:40] New patchset: Mwjames; "Split up responsibility and move diff update into DiffData" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/57701 [23:02:41] New patchset: Mwjames; "Split up responsibility and move diff update into DiffData" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/57701 [23:42:21] Hi, have a question. I'm making an infobox for the bottom of a few hundred pages. I want to display other relivant pages by (at this stage) category horizontally in that infobox. Is there a way with SMW I can display this information? [23:43:51] I've heard it can be done with Category Tree extension but I don't want ajax like drop down menus. Just something that would look like a normal page link. [23:56:02] Dibbley: I don't know of any way to modify the contents of the infobox.