[13:52:08] it seems the type: namespace is missing on a semantic wiki I'm working on, not sure why [13:52:27] I just set it up and thought that all namespaces would work fine after enabling most Semantic Bundle stuff [15:22:42] guaka2: what do you mean with "work fine"? [15:23:45] Saruman: meanwhile I found out the Type: namespace was ditched… so that explains some [15:24:01] but it doesn't explain why the Form: namespace articles are not properly copied over... [15:24:24] do I have to set the namespace in py when creating a new page? [15:24:45] yah, Type: is gone. [15:24:54] e.g. would a new page called "User:Guaka" end up in the User namespace? or in the main namespace? [15:25:13] SMW doesn't alter standard MW namespaces [15:25:29] thus, User:Guaka is in User: if your wiki is english [15:26:08] hmm, then I wonder what went wrong [15:26:27] Go to Special:PrefixIndex and check the dropdown [15:26:40] it should show all namespaces that your wiki recognizes as such [15:27:22] hm interesting, the Form pages are indeed in the main namespace [15:27:43] is Semantic Forms properly initialized then? [15:28:10] does Special:Version show it as a semantic extension? [15:29:04] the forms also showed up in the Form namespace… probably because I tried copying them manually as well [15:29:36] but then I removed two of the forms and now none are showing up in the forms namespace [15:29:43] Semantic Forms (Versie 2.5.1) [15:30:24] interesting [15:30:55] I ran update.php [15:31:01] but it I'm not sure if it changed anything [15:31:11] it's just saying "is fine" and "exists" etc. [15:31:12] prolly not [15:31:26] update is mainly for database tables and stuff [15:31:55] oh I made a mistake when looking for things in Form namespace, they are still there… (I just should enter anything in startswith to see them) [15:32:25] "startswith"? [15:32:36] you don't look in Special:Forms? [15:32:52] oh no I mean on Special:PrefixIndex [15:33:06] (my wikis are in Dutch so I have to translate back :) [15:33:11] ah, nederlander [15:33:22] of vlaming, dus [15:33:33] Nederlander in Brussel :) [15:33:41] Both, then! :-) [15:34:02] well, Brussels is hardly Flanders anymore... [15:34:08] true [15:34:28] or Belgium :) [15:34:40] you just met the main reason why I try to stick to English wikis as much as possible [15:35:02] not my choice [15:35:08] i know [15:35:14] i have stakeholders as well [15:35:40] but I keep a zandbak wiki right next to my sandbox wiki [15:35:48] it's a pretty funky setup in general… that I'm trying to smoothen a bit [15:35:59] we already have an entire DTAP setup :) [15:36:04] aka overkill [15:36:11] heh, I go for DP [15:36:17] and waste of time [15:36:18] and money [15:36:58] mebby, but DTAP is better than just P [15:37:06] I learned that the hard way [15:37:11] ha, sure.. [15:37:16] depends on what projects.. [15:37:25] true again [15:37:35] DTAP is not exactly lean [15:37:43] for my no budget projects (trashwiki, hitchwiki) it's been quite fine without D… [15:37:59] no budget equals no DTA [15:38:11] or just D=P [15:39:18] but now I wonder how I can get rid of the form pages in the main namespace without diving into the db [15:39:40] * guaka2 is not looking forward to figuring out MW's db schema [15:39:47] that may be tough [15:40:02] will likely be some maintenance script [15:40:37] btw, I wish there was a more drushy approach to MW's maintenace/*php [15:40:46] drush.ws [15:41:44] got an answer for ya: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Using_custom_namespaces#Dealing_with_existing_pages [16:04:03] thanks Saruman [16:13:31] Saruman: the query actually worked… (the other stuff not) [16:22:43] if it works, it works [21:30:32] Thanks for SMWCon, Yaron, Joel, Laurent, and everyone else who worked on this