[00:19:29] <Demos74dx>	 it works yaron, thats really cool with the #formlink, got a button that appends to a table now
[00:19:57] <yaron>	 Nice!
[00:20:58] <Demos74dx>	 the biggest issue I was running into was needing to go back into the form and reset the "info" tag, eveyrtime you regen pages with page schema it will delete it
[00:21:17] <Demos74dx>	 page schema needs some funtionality love ;)
[00:30:03] <yaron>	 Demos74dx: okay, that's a good point... shouldn't be too hard to add.
[00:30:48] <Demos74dx>	 also, a small bug, but probably not fixable easily
[00:31:22] <Demos74dx>	 when you specify multiple values: values=yaron\,Demos74dx\,etc\,etc\, mandatory
[00:31:24] <Demos74dx>	 somethign like that
[00:32:28] <Demos74dx>	 when you go edit the schema they will reset to values= yaron, Demos74dx, etc, etc, mandatory which creates an error next time you save the schema.  you have to manually go back and cancel out the commas everytime you edit the schema
[00:32:54] <yaron>	 Why would that be hard to fix?
[00:33:19] <Demos74dx>	 not sure, just seems like something to do with the way the page translates from form to wikitext back to form
[00:33:38] <yaron>	 Also, by "cancel out the commas", I assume you mean "escape the commas"?
[00:34:05] <Demos74dx>	 once you save the page schema and generate the page again it pulls from the form next time you generate the page schema....or so it seems
[00:34:08] <Demos74dx>	 yes ..escape
[00:34:17] <Demos74dx>	 brain is fried today
[00:34:57] <yaron>	 Demos74dx: I'm looking now that the Page Schemas "Edit schema" page - it does in fact hold fields for the {{{info}}} tag.
[00:35:23] <yaron>	 Maybe you just missed that section of the form?
[00:36:01] <Demos74dx>	 where?
[00:36:23] <Demos74dx>	 additional xml?
[00:36:53] <yaron>	 No, it's near the top - the very first "Form" section.
[00:37:26] <Demos74dx>	 ohhh, yeah I was always automatically setting the thing to check users must enter, forgot that I was now doing it the other way
[00:37:34] <yaron>	 Ah!
[00:37:35] <Demos74dx>	 cool
[00:37:44] <yaron>	 Okay, that takes care of that issue, hopefully.
[00:38:57] <Demos74dx>	 still would be nice to see all those standard inputs, like yury had
[00:39:07] <Demos74dx>	 guess it's easy enough to just remove them from the wikitext
[00:39:41] <yaron>	 Well, ideally PS is meant to handle everything - it doesn't quite reach that goal right now, obviously.
[00:45:14] <Demos74dx>	 yea, I'm supprised more people don't use it, its pretty awesome
[00:46:11] <Demos74dx>	 takes like 2 minutes to do what used to take atleast 30 minutes, as long as you know how to use it correctly, first time through has been rough getting used to it
[00:46:25] <Demos74dx>	 whats the syntax for the Page name formula: ?
[00:46:43] <Demos74dx>	 I put in: AC<unique number;start=1> and seem to get an xml error
[00:47:09] <yaron>	 Oh, man... must be another bug.
[00:47:17] <yaron>	 Maybe that's why more people don't use it. :(
[00:47:29] <yaron>	 I'll look into both of those - thanks for letting me know.
[01:00:04] <Demos74dx>	 I tried the <TemplateName[FieldName]> also, same error <?xml version 1.0?> or soemthing like that, just seems to not like the "<>" symbols
[01:01:49] <Demos74dx>	 what language are those "variables" written in?
[01:22:39] <yaron>	 Demos74dx: just Semantic Forms' own mini-syntax.
[01:24:21] <Demos74dx>	 ah okay
[01:49:08] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Yaron Koren; "Fix for commas in parameter names" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50868
[01:49:48] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50868
[01:51:47] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Yaron Koren; "Fix for commas in filter values" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticDrilldown] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50869
[01:52:17] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticDrilldown] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50869
[01:54:39] <Demos74dx>	 hey yaron is there a way to make a custom query that would show all the information of an inline query but by a drop box or something to that effect
[01:54:50] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Yaron Koren; "Fix for commas in allowed values of properties" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50870
[01:55:06] <yaron>	 In a form, or in a regular page?
[01:55:36] <Demos74dx>	 I have bob in a list with systems he has access to, I have tim in the same list with systems he has access to.  I want to show all the same information for both in one area, and be able to drop down either bob or tim in another area and show all the information for only bob or tim
[01:56:16] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50870
[01:56:25] <yaron>	 In a form, or in a regular page?
[01:56:26] <Demos74dx>	 in a regular page
[01:57:15] <yaron>	 I don't know if I really understand, but I think the answer is no.
[01:58:55] <Demos74dx>	 well I can do something like [[Category:tim]] and [[Category:Access]] then I can form an #ask query based on both categories: tim, and access.  but I need to go through and make an ask query for every person on the list..  I cant just have a drop down box that populates either bob or tim?
[01:59:34] <yaron>	 Sorry, I still don't understand.
[02:00:12] <Demos74dx>	 ill try to do a pastebin and see if it helps
[02:01:54] <Demos74dx>	 http://pastebin.com/geAW14aM
[02:02:50] <Demos74dx>	 so is there a way to just have a box where I pick either Bob or Tim and it populates the #ask query without having to list all this stuff over and over again and manually changing category all the time.
[02:04:36] <yaron>	 Demos74dx: okay, I sort of understand... what about the Semantic Drilldown extension?
[02:06:15] <Demos74dx>	 that looks like a possibility
[02:06:32] <Demos74dx>	 seems like a lot more than I need for just changing one simple variable though
[02:08:31] <yaron>	 Oh, now I get it.
[02:08:57] <yaron>	 Yeah, there's no way to do that.
[02:09:28] <yaron>	 That's what a table is for, no? :)
[02:10:14] <Demos74dx>	 yeah, but what if the table has lots of data and you only want to see just one persons stuff
[02:11:28] <yaron>	 Click on that person's name, I guess.
[02:13:52] <Demos74dx>	 Yeah, some of the functionality I lost when I added the automatic control number via one step process I think
[02:15:51] <yaron>	 Oh - there's no page called "Tim"?
[02:22:55] <Demos74dx>	 there is, but it doesn't store the permissions he has
[02:23:17] <Demos74dx>	 the AC<automaticnumber> page holds the permissions
[02:24:07] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Yaron Koren; "Escaped < and > in field values, to avoid messing up XML" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50872
[02:24:25] <yaron>	 Well, it could still display them, I assume, through a query or something.
[02:24:49] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50872
[02:25:23] <Demos74dx>	 yeah, still means that I need to go through every user page and place that query, hoping to just have the #ask in one place and be able to change the name of the person right there.  Maybe input box and parser function?
[02:25:37] <Demos74dx>	 store the input and use that stored value to call the #ask category
[02:25:58] <yaron>	 Do you really need to go through every user page? Can't you put in the template that they share?
[02:26:03] <yaron>	 (put it in the)
[02:26:26] <Demos74dx>	 oh
[12:42:28] <dbolser>	 hello
[12:42:46] <dbolser>	 is the latest SB designed to work with 19 or 20?  (or earlier)
[12:44:18] <Saruman>	 ehm
[12:44:23] <Saruman>	 wasn't that in the mailing list?
[12:44:41] <dbolser>	 there was a lot on the mailing list...
[12:44:44] <dbolser>	 hello
[12:46:04] <Saruman>	 yes there rather is
[12:47:35] <Saruman>	 ah, got the announcement
[12:47:39] <Saruman>	 17-2-'13
[12:47:51] <dbolser>	 I'm after SMW 1.8, which says 17/18
[12:48:10] <dbolser>	 so looks like I can get by with 19  :-D
[12:48:12] <Saruman>	 funny, SB doesn't mention
[12:48:20] <dbolser>	 cus 20 requires 5.3
[12:48:24] <Saruman>	 prolly sticks to whatever SMW in it requires
[12:48:25] <dbolser>	 nah
[12:48:29] <dbolser>	 yup
[12:48:40] <dbolser>	 just put a comment on SB to state which MW it needs
[12:50:05] <Saruman>	 Looks like SB got SMW1.8.0.3 in it, and that requires MW1.17+
[12:50:09] <dbolser>	 right
[12:50:14] <dbolser>	 I'm on 19, so I'm good
[12:50:17] <dbolser>	 thanks Saruman
[12:50:24] <Saruman>	 np
[12:50:38] <dbolser>	 saves me reading that uber thread ;-)
[12:51:00] <Saruman>	 heh, just using smart search in Thunderbird
[12:51:32] <Saruman>	 Don't know much, but I can search like a boss
[12:56:46] <dbolser>	 hehe
[13:10:38] <dbolser>	 oh for the love of crackers
[13:10:53] <dbolser>	 how do I get a specific version of SB from git?
[13:11:02] <dbolser>	 doesn't look like any tags have been used
[13:11:17] <dbolser>	 to the list of externals on 'head' is borked'
[13:12:08] <dbolser>	 I'm on 41e013793d3b56d17899560135ecedb7b8ed0797
[13:12:11] <dbolser>	 (good)
[13:12:27] <dbolser>	 e5935f3b7138736dca3d30b14e0a3dba59c530c4 # bad
[13:19:29] * dbolser  hits the list

[13:23:46] <Saruman>	 Please don't hurt the list!
[13:25:40] <Saruman>	 dbolser: can't you use one of the code.google.com bundles?
[13:26:20] <dbolser>	 a bundle of bundles?
[13:26:57] * dbolser  goes back to work

[13:27:45] <Saruman>	 bundles of joy!
[13:30:25] <dbolser>	 OIC,
[13:30:40] <dbolser>	 those releases could be tagged in git I guess
[13:30:57] <dbolser>	 20130219
[18:59:41] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Yaron Koren; "New version: 2.5.2" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50933
[19:01:27] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50933
[19:32:53] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Yaron Koren; "Fix for correct display of spaces in page names in form titles" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50938
[19:35:15] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50938
[19:45:00] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Foxtrott; "Store semantic data after successfully uploading a file from Special:Upload" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50943
[20:15:33] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Foxtrott; "Re-enabling MW1.19 compatibility" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticExtraSpecialProperties] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50946
[21:13:21] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Yaron Koren; "New versions of Semantic Forms, Widgets" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticBundle] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51024
[21:14:25] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticBundle] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51024
[21:18:12] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Yaron Koren; "Added submodule creation, for Widgets extension" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticBundle] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51026
[21:19:27] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticBundle] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51026
[21:23:55] <gerrit-wm>	 Change abandoned: Jeroen De Dauw; "Already pushed directly" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticBundle] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50160
[21:51:48] <daNASCAT>	 Hi, I'm getting a JSON recursion error on pages that include Semantic Maps.
[21:51:51] <daNASCAT>	 http://www.thethirdturn.com/wiki/Rockford_Speedway
[21:51:54] <daNASCAT>	 Any idea why this could be?
[21:59:17] <yaron>	 daNASCAT: looking at the template in use there, it's doing something fairly complicated...
[21:59:40] <daNASCAT>	 Yeah, I'm going to try to just make it a regular display map
[21:59:50] <yaron>	 It geocodes the location, stores the coordinates semantically, and then queries the coordinates to display the map.
[21:59:56] <daNASCAT>	 It was working fine up to about 2 months ago when I did the whole SMW1.8 upgradate.
[22:00:08] <daNASCAT>	 Maybe just a good excuse for me to simplify things.
[22:00:22] <yaron>	 Ah. Well, you've probably found a bug, but hopefully not a major one.
[22:01:51] <daNASCAT>	 I didn't find anything in Bugzilla, and since my fix is a simple one, I'm not going to file it and just write it down as 'user error'.
[22:02:02] <daNASCAT>	 Thanks for the look, yaron.
[22:02:36] <yaron>	 Alright.
[22:04:16] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "rem me as author" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticTasks] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51043
[22:04:25] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticTasks] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51043
[23:10:34] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Validator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48331
[23:10:40] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Validator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50583
[23:33:11] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Make PSR-0 compliant" [mediawiki/extensions/Validator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50584
[23:33:21] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Validator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50584
[23:33:32] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Remove static code from settings class" [mediawiki/extensions/Validator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50585
[23:33:39] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Validator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50585
[23:33:48] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Cleanup settings class" [mediawiki/extensions/Validator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50586
[23:33:55] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Validator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50586
[23:34:02] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Improve docs" [mediawiki/extensions/Validator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50587
[23:34:09] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Validator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50587
[23:44:56] <Demos74dx>	 got that search working yesterday.
[23:45:11] <Demos74dx>	 I have a parser function
[23:45:45] <Demos74dx>	 {{#ifexpr:{{#time: d-m-Y|now}} > {{#time: d-m-Y|10 January 2014 - 2 years}} |class=pciYellow| class=pciGreen}}
[23:46:20] <Demos74dx>	 so everythign works, except it just displays the text "class=pciYellow" and doesnt call in my actual css, any ideas?