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"Fix some jslint/checkstyle warnings" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50342 [06:10:58] New patchset: Mwjames; "Fix some jslint/checkstyle warnings" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50342 [06:12:39] New review: Mwjames; "Patch Set 4:" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50342 [06:18:53] New review: Mwjames; "Patch Set 4: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50342 [06:19:03] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50342 [07:15:23] New patchset: Mwjames; "Fix 'InvalidArgumentException' in SMW_Exporter" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50348 [07:21:13] New patchset: Mwjames; "Fix 'InvalidArgumentException' in SMW_Exporter" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50348 [12:51:26] Anyone here? [12:53:34] Hello. [12:54:06] Does anyone know whether there is a extension or bot to make changes to pages using templates? [12:58:27] exit [14:28:55] hello [14:29:35] I am very new to to smw, is there anyone around to give me a few quick tips? [14:29:53] Allo allo! [14:30:10] :) hi yaron thanks [14:30:28] I just installed smw, and I am playing a bit with it. [14:30:49] My main question now is, what kind of information can I extract from an article without using any annotation? [14:31:04] Nothing, really... [14:31:20] I noticed that you can use categories [14:31:28] I mean, SMW doesn't do any sort of natural-langugage processing. [14:31:38] sure, that I understand [14:31:43] Yes, but categories are also set via annotation. [14:32:10] by annotations I mean the SMW annotations, not mediawiki [14:32:21] Ah, okay. [14:32:30] I thought it would be, at least, possible to query sections, or variables from templates [14:33:02] You can query on fields in templates, assuming the templates themselves have SMW annotation. [14:33:20] like content of all section named "tourism" in category:city, for instance [14:33:20] In fact, that's usually the only way I recommend to store semantic data - in templates. [14:33:31] You can't query on sections. [14:33:48] and template variables? [14:33:54] I [14:34:37] I have many templates, and it would be really usefull If I could query that data without having to enrich the templates with SMW annotations [14:34:53] You can't do that. [14:35:14] I will have to change all templates than? [14:35:49] Well, all the ones whose data you want to query. [14:36:15] that leads me to my first question.. what can I query without annotating with SMW extensions? [14:36:44] Well, that leads me to my first answer. :) [14:37:01] Except for categories. [14:41:09] yaron, can't you automatically query the special properties? [14:41:16] (never tried that myself) [14:43:38] Creation date, Modification date, Last editor is - I'd think these three would work even if you don't annotate anything. [14:44:04] http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Special_properties [14:47:23] It would really be nice to query already existing structured data, without needing any extra enrichment [14:48:18] aloalo: sure, but that's not in the cards [14:48:46] but how many different templates do you have that actually carry information of interest? [14:49:08] or rather "of sufficient interest" [14:50:46] I manage a wiki, and my really interest would be that people would still build their templates just the way they do and I would be able to query that information [14:52:22] of course I can change the existing templates, I probably have 10 ~20 maximum templates [14:54:21] a template, is by itself structured data, so I thought it could be done in a transparent way for the wiki users [14:54:31] thank you for your time [15:15:57] aloalo: the annotations would be transparent for all wiki users, except for those that create templates [15:22:12] That is true, [15:22:33] but still, it would be interesting to extract them without any extra enrichement of the template [15:22:54] or even article sections [15:23:16] there is a lot of structured data in media wikia [15:37:31] Saruman: sorry, I just saw this now. [15:37:58] Yes, you can query on the special properties, but aloalo was asking about extracting data "from an article", so I thought that didn't quite apply. [15:38:08] It's the old metadata-vs.-data thing. [16:04:40] true, true [17:07:50] New patchset: Yaron Koren; "Partial revert of change 40557 - restored previous English-language value" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50378 [17:09:50] Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50378 [17:10:52] New review: Yaron Koren; "Okay, I took care of changing it back, here:" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40557 [18:19:57] New patchset: Markus Kroetzsch; "Remove line that disables DISTINCT with blobs" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50381 [18:25:05] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50381 [18:53:49] hi yaron, I know this isn't semantic; but I'm wondering if you might know of a fix for me. I'm trying to store data semantically and get it pulled on a single page, which is all working fine, but I need each line of data which I have user fill out with a form associated with a "control number" that would be automatically generated, I've found the Autoincrement extension which everytime the hook {{AUTOINCREMENT}} is cal [18:53:49] led on a page increments by one, but the data called from to this table is stored on different pages thoughout the site, is there a way to associate Autoincrement globally? [18:55:11] still kinda noobish at templates and not sure if its in a templates power to hold the {{AUTOINCREMENT}} hook and call the template for the increment value or not... [19:01:12] oh maybe I should use the one step process...humm [19:02:00] Demos74dx: sorry, I just saw this now. [19:02:10] hasn't been too long :) [19:02:54] I'm pretty sure there's no way to do that. [19:03:16] Why you would need that is a different question, though... [19:05:01] I have a form that users fill out to request access to servers. But regulation requires that these forms have signatures associated with them, and online signatures are...difficult, so If I associate a control number with the access request then I can have a book with a paper that just has columns; access control number, signature [19:05:22] so they just put the number that associates to the wiki and sign [19:05:48] auditors can come and look at the wiki and I can scan them the signature pages when they need it [19:06:43] Okay - I'm not sure I understood all that, but yes, you could use the one-step process to give each request, or whatever it is, its own unique ID. [19:08:03] I'm trying to get this right in my head [19:08:32] The key is that every request, or whatever it is, has to have its own page. [19:08:42] The uniqueness thing only works for page names. [19:09:58] so Access Control page, with list of Accesses requested and granted, which uses one step that generates a unique page which has default form Request Access? [19:10:57] so that would generate a unique page which has the unique identifier as a control number with all the form info in it [19:11:00] I think I can do that [19:13:42] oh and #formlink makes it easier....cool [19:13:45] love your book yaron [19:14:17] That's great to hear! Thanks! [19:15:09] I think I'm starting to "think semantically" a bit more, I think that's the hardest part [19:15:38] it feels like my mind is cracking and the semantic tidbits are overwriting terrible wiki practices [19:15:46] ...slowly [19:15:54] Yes, it's definitely a different way to think about things, even if you've used wikis before. [19:16:59] I always kinda figured wiki stuff and Comp Science as vastly different things, but I see the semantic wiki kinds injects OOP to the wiki process [19:17:15] kinda* [19:19:09] Saruman: I have a question, must be bedtime for you ;) [19:19:43] Actually it's more of a sanity check [19:20:13] I have a class set up, but one of the entries in the form is a set of pages that I also want to be a category [19:21:11] I guess I don't then want to create a whole other class for those pages, but I guess use a template? I need to assign them to the category and populate some information [19:21:19] though some of that info will be from the first class I created [19:22:27] What I want to make sure is that I can actually come at the same info from two ways or two forms, or if I'd need to manually set up the one if it's created with the other [19:30:55] Demos74dx: yeah, definitely! With the Page Schemas extension, I've been trying to make that connection even more formal. [19:41:00] ok, here's a more concise question, is it possible to set it that when I create a page with a property it also assigns a category to that page? [19:43:19] Kensie: what do you mean by "create a page with a property"? [19:43:40] yaron: ok, so I'm working with hostnames and IPs for those hostnames [19:43:54] And the hostnames IPs belong to a server [19:44:13] I have made the class for the hostnames to track what server they belong to and what their IP is [19:44:26] in your template [[Category:YourCategory]] should then push to all pages using that template [19:44:27] but I also want to track the other way around, I want the servers to be a category as well [19:45:00] so when I create a hostname page that lists the server it also creates a link to a page with that server name, with the property "server" [19:45:31] [[Has Property::ServerName]] ? [19:45:50] yes [19:46:07] Probably "Has server", actually. [19:46:10] (created a class for hostname) [19:46:44] Kensie: do you know about "Has default form" for properties? [19:46:54] yaron: somewhat, I haven't used it yet [19:47:01] ^ awesome tool [19:47:17] so if I make a form for servers, I can set the default form for server to be the server one which assigns the category? [19:47:19] if you red link from a page with Has default form it will use that form to create [19:47:20] Cool - yes, I think that's what should be used here. [19:48:44] I will try that, but before that, the next step is that I want the server page to list the hostnames associated with it. Would that be using an ask function? [19:48:54] I'm going a bit in a circle, I know [19:49:49] hmm so I need to create a property for the hostname, and set that default form to hostname, which already exists [19:49:57] and then that will be the field on the form [19:50:08] ok, let me try this! [19:51:16] Kensie: yes, it would be done with an #ask query. [19:51:34] yaron: can the ask query be a template? [19:51:46] or do I need to manually change the pages for the servers? [19:51:48] It can be within the template, yes. [19:51:58] Using {{PAGENAME}}. [19:52:16] ok [19:52:29] thanks for your help guys! [19:52:46] takes the server a little while to create my classes and stuff, I'll report back later [19:58:09] yaron: is the correct syntax [[Has default form:Hostname]] ? [19:58:27] ( form::hostname rather) [19:59:19] hi all, I've just recently got Semantic Forms set up, and I'm wondering if anyone has run into any "array to string conversion" PHP notices on Special:CreateForm. I didn't see anything on the Bugzilla, and this is ultimately coming out of SF_CreateForm.php > Database.php, so it doesn't seem the same as the one from late 2012 in SMW_SQLStore3_Writers.php that Google finds for me [20:00:00] I'm running MediaWiki 1.19.1, PHP 5.4.3, MySQL 5.5.24, SMW 1.8.0.3, and Forms 2.5.1 [20:03:15] yaron: nvm tested, seems to be working! exciting! [20:04:04] I'm looking at SF_CreateForm and MediaWiki's Database.php at the moment, and it looks like SF_CreateForm calls db->select (lines 93-97) with arrays as the last 2 (of 4) arguments. The default arguments for those appear to be strings... $fname (the last argument) is passed on to query... [20:06:22] yaron: Demos74dx: so the only piece missing is that if I create a hostname from the server form, the hostname isn't automatically assigned the server. This is minor of course, but if it could be automated that would be cool. [20:07:41] Kensie: don't you already have a property pointing from the server to the hostname, though? [20:08:00] tayloj: what's the error message you're seeing? [20:08:29] yaron: yes, but the pages need to link both ways. There are usecases both for looking up the info on the hostname, and also checking to see what other hostnames exist on a server. [20:08:55] Kensie: you can always query on a property going in other direction, using "-propertyName". [20:09:22] yaron: right, this is less of a problem if I'm creating all the pages from one directly [20:09:25] *direction [20:09:47] Notice: Array to string conversion in C:\wamp\www\wiki\includes\db\Database.php on line 827, and the stacktrace, after MW->performRequest, is SpecialPageFactory::executePath > SFCreateForm->execute() > SFCreateForm->doSpecialCreateForm() -> DatabaseBase ->select() > DatabaseBase->query() [20:09:50] I suppose I should do it that way, always create the page from the hostname, and not from the server [20:10:24] I'm consufing myself now, need to think :) [20:10:27] Kensie: yes, although for querying it shouldn't matter - you can always fill in the name of the server later. [20:11:06] yaron: based on how the Database.php handles some things, I'm wondering if an implode in SF_CreateForm might avert it... testing now [20:12:01] tayloj: I'm looking at the code now. [20:13:05] hm, that didn't work (not a PHP dev here... ^_^) [20:13:34] I really don't know what could be causing this error (notice) message... [20:13:53] yaron: ok so I think what I really want, if I could have my way ;), is to use the hostname form to create pages, but have that also create server pages that list the hostnames. [20:14:24] Kensie: the semantic relationship should only be defined in one of the two types of pages, and queried in the other. [20:14:40] yaron: right, i want the server pages to do the querying [20:15:04] Okay, so no problem. [20:15:21] Or should I say, what's the problem? :) [20:15:26] :D [20:15:40] I'm not sure how to automate creating the server pages so that it does this [20:15:59] I guess I need to change the template to be the ask query? [20:16:06] but then what goes in the form? [20:16:38] (teh form for the server pages, that automatically gives them the category) [20:18:51] Possibly nothing - it could be just a blank form, with a "Save" page at the bottom. [20:18:51] yaron: I take that back, wrapping the array( 'ORDER BY' => 'page_title' ) inside of an implode( ",", ... ) makes the notice go away [20:18:54] There's no prohibition against doing that. [20:19:06] tayloj: okay, that's strange... [20:20:02] Oh, man! You just found a huge bug! [20:20:08] yaron: that would work for me :) [20:20:15] yaron: well, Database.php line 827 is: $commentedSql = preg_replace( '/\s/', " /* $fname $userName */ ", $sql, 1 ); [20:20:17] ok [20:20:18] let me try that [20:20:22] some interesting conversation here :p [20:20:38] yaron: so $fname would be getting auto-converted to a string, no? [20:20:55] Kensie: yes, that's been done before. You can just have a "Click Save below" message, or something, so users don't get confused. :) [20:21:08] tayloj: the wrong argument is getting passed in to $fname. [20:21:19] I wonder how long this problem has been there... [20:22:04] Trying to find that out now, just out of morbid curiosity. [20:23:45] Oh man - many years. [20:24:13] Although maybe the structure of Database::select() changed? [20:25:00] Nope. [20:25:06] yaron: could be; the quickstart for forms mentions Special:CreateForm, so I'd expect that lots of people visit it... [20:25:21] yaron: but Google didn't find anything for me either [20:25:51] Well, yes - I visit it too, :) but I've never seen that error either. Probably depends on one's PHP version, etc. [20:26:11] Anyway, it's great that at least one server (yours) had a problem with it. [20:26:20] yaron: I've inherited sort of a strange setup: Apache on WinNT, so maybe PHP there doesn't silence Notices (PHP docs make it sound like Notices should be silent by default) [20:26:35] Ah! Apache on Windows, that might be it. [20:27:29] It's not just the PHP notices thing - there are definitely some wiki servers that display notices. [20:29:32] yeah, but just before coming here, I tried error_reporting( E_ALL^ E_NOTICE ) which (says php.net) is the default, and should show everything except notices, but maybe something else overrides that [20:30:38] yaron: so what *should* SF_CreateForm's doSpecialCreateForm be passing off to select( ... ) ? [20:30:53] There's just a missing parameter there - I'm fixing it now. [20:32:00] New patchset: Yaron Koren; "Added needed parameter to Database::select(), missing for years (d'oh)" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50426 [20:32:56] Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50426 [20:33:31] tayloj: if you add in this change, the error message should go away: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/50426/1/specials/SF_CreateForm.php,unified [20:34:04] yaron: sorry to bother you again. I have only used the Ask for pulling category information like https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReMo/People. How would I ask for the info on pages that have the specific server listed? [20:34:49] Kensie: something like "{{#ask:[[Has server::{{PAGENAME}}]]}}". [20:35:02] yaron: ok thanks, I was mostly there but not sure on the syntax [20:35:17] I will test that [20:37:03] yaron: on it now... [20:40:40] yaron: patching in through remote desktop and Notepad++ is not the best way to apply updates... things look fine now; no notices, anyhow [20:40:45] yaron: many thanks! [20:41:07] tayloj: cool! And thanks for letting me know about that - yikes. [20:43:28] yaron: not a problem; I'm surprised it hadn't come up sooner; php changelog says that it was March 2012 that array to string conversion got a notice; oh well, that's how these things go [20:43:53] That's weird too... who knows. [20:44:31] Yeah, programming is less of an exact science than people might think. [20:46:45] yaron: Hey, SF is still using direct calls to SQLStore2 tables? [20:47:04] Nischayn22: yes... I still need to fix that. [20:47:32] It can't use the SMW API, but it should query the SQLStore3 tables if that's what's being used. [20:47:35] yaron: Do you think that is the reason for https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45289 [20:48:10] No, that one's an SMW bug - Markus just fixed it today, actually. [20:48:32] well, wouldn't it be better to build a better SMW API? [20:48:43] Sure, yes. [20:49:21] that bug report has no more comments, no change links. Are you sure it got fixed? [20:49:26] As I recall, the direct SQL queries are just used for one thing: autocompleting, based on a search substring. [20:49:34] Nischayn22: yes; it's a duplicate bug report. [20:49:47] okay, then I should mark it as such [20:50:07] Here's the main one: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45129 [20:50:43] yaron: thanks for saving me from bugzilla's search engine [20:50:57] Ah - that might have been an impossible task. :) [20:51:29] ofc, I was searching for 'autocomplete duplicate'. [20:51:48] * Nischayn22 wonders when we will have better searches in bugzilla and mediawiki [20:54:13] I've been hearing about planned improvements to the core MW search engine for over five years now, so I couldn't tell you. :) [20:56:13] haha [20:57:22] yaron: the has bit isn't working. I can switch to Property:server but that only seems to insert a link. [20:57:48] The property name is just "Server"? [20:58:11] well in this case the one I'm trying to use is exactly proxyNode [20:58:29] Okay - so do "{{#ask:[[proxyNode::{{PAGENAME}}]]}}". [20:59:09] yaron: I think I did that, I will try again. So far the only good results I'm getting are with category:hostnames [20:59:42] oh wait... !! [21:00:29] yaron: I could have sworn I tried that, but I guess not as it's working [21:00:52] yaron: you should try getting one of these http://www.google.com/glass/start/what-it-does/ ..luckily you are in the US :) [21:00:57] ay! [21:01:10] Nischayn22: oh yeah, Google Glass? [21:01:23] That would be great for me, since I don't spend enough time online. :) [21:01:26] yeah, looks very interesting [21:01:54] I don't know if you caught the sarcasm there. [21:02:04] I did :) [21:02:18] but you have to move on with the sophistication ;) [21:04:47] That's true - the last person without internet glasses will look ridiculous. :) [21:05:34] I wonder what they will do of Android, won't need phones anymore [21:06:54] time for kids to go to bed :p [21:07:23] Good night! Seems like it might be pretty late over there. :) [21:10:28] yaron: i think it's all working, thanks so much for your help! [21:10:45] Cool! You're welcome. [21:55:23] New patchset: Yaron Koren; "More reverts for 'allowmultiple'" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50437 [21:56:15] Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50437 [22:55:34] hi all again, are there any known issues with using the #set: parserfunction on template pages? I seem to be having the issue that if I use the [[prop::{{{param}}}]] syntax in a template, a page using the template gets the appropriate annotation, but if I put {{#set:prop::{{{param}}} }} in the template, I don't get the annotation on a page using the template. [22:56:20] After some discussion earlier, I'm on a git snapshot from earlier today [22:57:32] oh, and the property I'm using [[has type::Text]] [22:58:59] hm, that doesn't seem to matter, I get the same issue if the property [[has type::Page]] [23:01:50] tayloj: you have the syntax wrong; it's "{{#set:a=b}}". [23:02:43] oh for crying out loud *facepalm* [23:04:14] yaron: yup, that's exactly it. oy, I've been trying to get that working for about an hour now [23:05:04] yaron: ty [23:07:23] Sure - yeah, there's a lot of syntax to learn.