[06:15:13] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Nischayn22; "[Draft] attempt to refactor shapes in Maps" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48084
[09:36:24] <sven^>	 is there any easy way for renaming a template? I want to rename "Meeting Protocol" to something like "Meeting Protocol old" or "Meeting Protocoll till 2013-02" or something like that and create new templates/forms with the old name.
[09:36:50] <sven^>	 so in some way I need to alter the wiki source of all the old protocols to use the renamed template
[14:11:33] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mwjames; "Add ResourceLoaderGetConfigVars" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48123
[14:12:12] <sven^>	 can I get a sum over values set in subobjects? I am not quite sure about the syntax
[14:15:37] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mwjames; "smw.Api.query.toString() add some sanity checks" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48124
[14:26:51] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mwjames; "Add ResourceLoaderGetConfigVars" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48123
[14:41:23] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mwjames; "smw.Api.query.toString() add some sanity checks" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48124
[15:13:48] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Suggestion: A Query is a data object not specific to the API, therefore placing it in API NS is a bi..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48124
[15:13:57] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48124
[16:18:05] <jgay>	 Is anyone here familiar with the arraymap parser function that comes with Semantic Forms
[16:18:19] <jgay>	 I recently upgraded to a new version and it started breaking on me
[16:18:41] <jgay>	 In particular, I have a doubly nested template that uses it and it looks like this: {{#arraymap:{{{2}}}|,|xvarx|<li>[[category/{{{1}}}/xvarx|xvarx]]</li>|\n}}
[16:20:19] <jgay>	 It used to generate a link, it is now generating square brackets as such: [[category/Use/Use|Use]]
[16:33:59] <sven^>	 well, that looks as if the value of xvarx were "Use"
[17:48:54] <sven^>	 can I get a sum over values set in subobjects? I am not quite sure about the syntax
[17:56:29] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Nischayn22; "[Draft] attempt to refactor shapes in Maps" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48084
[18:11:09] <yaron>	 sven^: yes, use "format=sum".
[18:13:15] <sven^>	 oh, I mean like from outside the subobject. I have some pages in [[category:foo]] and each of them has like 2 or 3 subobjects. Now I want to #ask: [[category:foo]]... ?SubobjectsProperty | format=sum
[18:17:16] <yaron>	 sven^: instead of "[[category:foo]]", maybe you could do "[[SubobjectsProperty::+]]".
[18:18:58] <sven^>	 well, ok... that works. But what if the property name isn't unique?
[18:19:57] <sven^>	 I mean like a phone number. [[Category:Friend]] ... ?Subobject#phonenumber isn't the same as [[Category:Company]]..
[18:20:06] <yaron>	 Well, ideally you can add something to the #subobject call to make those subobjects unique.
[18:21:00] <sven^>	 The subobjects are unique. It's like this: Termin283385#Pickers
[18:21:21] <sven^>	 but I set a value, let's call it "genericnumber" in those subobjects
[18:21:49] <sven^>	 and now I only want to sum up the "genericnumber"s found in subobjects of [[Category:Termin]]
[18:21:53] <sven^>	 is that even possible?
[18:22:22] <yaron>	 Yes, of course the names are unique. But I'm saying, have some property, or property-value combination, that's unique to those subojbects.
[18:23:14] <sven^>	 ok, so you mean I should use something like "Termin-genericnumber" for properties in the subobjects of pages in category Termin?
[18:23:45] <yaron>	 That's one idea.
[18:24:00] <yaron>	 Or just "|Belongs to Termin=yes" or something.
[18:24:16] <sven^>	 eeks, but wait... Nah, that won't work. The Termin pages have a date
[18:25:12] <yaron>	 Oh, actually - you don't even need to do that.
[18:25:13] <sven^>	 I am not only #asking for [[Category:Termin]] but also [[Date::>foo]] [[Data::<bar]]
[18:25:22] <yaron>	 Alright.
[18:25:45] <sven^>	 and assigning the date to the subobjects aswell would be possible but feels like another hack
[18:25:48] <yaron>	 So do something like "[[Belongs to page::<q>[[Category:Termin]] [[Date::>foo]] [[Data::<bar]]</q>]]".
[18:26:44] <sven^>	 and then [[genericnumber::+]] ?
[18:26:52] <sven^>	 ah, no. I can skip that
[18:27:29] <yaron>	 Yeah.
[18:30:52] <sven^>	 ok, that's empty...
[18:31:03] <sven^>	 I need to do some shopping... I'll try again later
[18:35:25] <yaron>	 Oh, actually - in place of "Belongs to page", you should have "-Has subobject".
[18:35:30] <yaron>	 With the dash.
[18:37:19] <sven^>	 Too much snow outside ;)
[18:37:22] <sven^>	 wow, thanks a lot
[18:37:23] <sven^>	 that works
[18:38:12] <yaron>	 Cool.
[18:38:43] <yaron>	 Hey, who needs shopping when you can do SMW stuff.
[18:38:55] <sven^>	 for 10 hours now... ;)
[18:40:22] <yaron>	 Wow, okay.
[18:44:44] <sven^>	 I realized that most of the time I make cosmetic changes... creating or altering queries is just a small part
[19:49:15] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hypergrove; "test for commandline environment before loading resources" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticComments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48155