[18:41:21] <randukkar>	 Hi all, I am having an issue with category annotations within a template
[18:41:38] <randukkar>	 I have a template called "Group View", which looks like this: http://pastebin.com/UQVuWj99
[18:42:28] <randukkar>	 but when I look at the Special:Templates page, it says that Group View defines category: Subobjects
[18:43:21] <randukkar>	 but obviously I don't want pages using the Group View template to be added to the Subobjects category
[18:43:25] <randukkar>	 what am I doing wrong?
[19:42:28] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Looks amazing on the vid! Fantastic work :)" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41939
[20:00:41] <Saruman>	 randukkar: you there?
[20:02:14] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Very nice" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master); V: 2 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41939
[20:02:14] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41939
[20:43:28] <randukkar>	 yes, I'm here
[20:45:02] <Saruman>	 i can't entirely follow your problem
[20:45:17] <randukkar>	 which part should I explain?
[20:45:30] <Saruman>	 " Group View defines category: Subobjects"
[20:46:29] <randukkar>	 I mean when I look at the special page Special:Templates
[20:46:40] <randukkar>	 which lists all the templates
[20:47:31] <randukkar>	 the entry corresponding to Group View says "Group View defines category: Subobjects"
[20:48:41] <Saruman>	 well, my wiki says similar things, but I haven't a problem with unwanted cat associations
[20:49:07] <Saruman>	 What I *can*  advise is to put defaults in your fieldnames to prevent misinterpretations.
[20:49:34] <Saruman>	 Don't use {{{groupname}}}, but use {{{groupname|defaultgroup}}} or {{{groupname|}}}
[20:49:57] <Saruman>	 it prevents ugly misinterpretations of a.o. the template page itself
[20:50:00] <randukkar>	 okay
[20:50:16] <Saruman>	 also, you might want to put the actual template behind <includeonly>
[20:50:43] <Saruman>	 furthermore you could document your own templates in a section <noinclude>my documentation blabla </noinclude>
[20:51:04] <randukkar>	 ah yes, I have the documentation and <includeonly> tags. just didn't paste them in pastebin.
[20:51:32] <Saruman>	 eg http://www.infra-repository.org/oiar/index.php/Template:FunctionIcon
[20:51:40] <Saruman>	 ah, ok I see
[20:52:46] <randukkar>	 I see, so even though the Templates page claims to define the category, you don't actually get unwanted category annotations
[20:53:12] <randukkar>	 is this a bug in the Templates page or a feature?
[20:53:43] <Saruman>	 well, definitely not the latter :-O
[20:54:12] <Saruman>	 My special:templates page shows some pretty wild "defines" clauses
[20:55:01] <Saruman>	 I hadn't noticed earlier since I never use it
[20:56:42] <randukkar>	 ok
[23:02:17] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Some cleanup of the property statistics code" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37656