[14:20:23] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Nischayn22; "Make necessary method public from protected." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39575
[14:29:14] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Mwjames; "I can't comprehend as to why this method was protected in the first place but in case it is not merg..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 1 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39575
[15:31:58] <Frank__>	 Does anybody know where I can find docs on Halo?  The link from MediaWiki.org  for the manual is dead.
[15:33:02] <Frank__>	 I'm looking to set up some reciprocal properties using Halo, so I'd be very appreciative of help on that subject.
[15:34:02] <Saruman>	 Frank__: afaik Halo is part of the SMW+ offering, but support for SMW+ has all but seized since ontoprise died
[15:34:38] <Saruman>	 you could start using Halo if you like, but I'd not exactly advise it until it becomes clear what's going to happen with the code
[15:35:29] <Frank__>	 I know, it seems to have fallen off the planet.  Or at least the Internet.
[15:36:23] <Frank__>	 I guess Halo isn't really what I need, it just provides shortcuts to the syntax.
[15:36:35] <Saruman>	 in that case you might want to avoid the risk
[15:37:39] <Frank__>	 We actually use it already.  The docs might help me use it more easily.
[15:41:56] <Saruman>	 well the devs seem to have pulled all docs offline
[15:42:42] <Frank__>	 Yes, most of the domains related to SMW+ are gone.
[15:42:58] <Frank__>	 I did find the code on SourceForge though.  It's still available.
[15:43:44] <Saruman>	 yes, but no docs there, and no maintenance in the foreseeable future
[15:43:55] <Frank__>	 That's right.
[15:44:00] <Saruman>	 so how are you going to maintain your wiki?
[15:47:30] <Frank__>	 If it comes up we might have to modify the code ourselves.
[17:50:50] <drobbins>	 yaron: poke
[17:51:00] <yaron>	 Hello!
[17:52:02] <drobbins>	 yaron: I have this ongoing bug with ApprovedRevs - do you happen to have ~15 minutes free time to take a look?
[17:52:31] <yaron>	 Well - I'll have 15 minutes at some point.
[17:52:37] <drobbins>	 ok
[17:52:44] <yaron>	 If you describe it, I can look into it.
[17:52:55] <drobbins>	 OK. The (approve) link is not showing for all revisions.
[17:53:17] <drobbins>	 It seems to be missing when there is a (-> foo) section thing at the end of the history.
[17:53:31] <drobbins>	 which for me means most of the time.
[17:53:55] <kevindank>	 Hello im getting the following internal error when attempting to access Special:Properties
[17:53:56] <kevindank>	 Internal error  There is no predefined property with "___CREA".  Backtrace:  #0 C:\xampp\htdocs\extensions\SemanticMediaWiki\includes\storage\SMW_SQLStore2.php(1039): SMWDIProperty->__construct('___CREA') #1 C:\xampp\htdocs\extensions\SemanticMediaWiki\specials\QueryPages\SMW_SpecialProperties.php(104): SMWSQLStore2->getPropertiesSpecial(Object(SMWRequestOptions)) #2 C:\xampp\htdocs\extensions\SemanticMediaWiki\specials
[17:54:04] <drobbins>	 so if you edit a section, and then save, the revision history has a ( -> Section you edited ) and the ( approve ) link is missing.
[17:54:10] <yaron>	 drobbins: yeah, I noticed that on semantic-mediawiki.org.
[17:54:28] <yaron>	 I couldn't find the pattern, though - but that "#section" thing makes sense.
[17:54:30] <kevindank>	 Also i attempted to add something to the property for a field called house and now the drop down no longer works or shows any of the exisiting house selections
[17:54:44] <kevindank>	 just shows the select box drop down with no choices to choose
[17:55:11] <drobbins>	 kevindank: did you initialize the db?
[17:55:36] <drobbins>	 kevindank: see if you can get to Special:SMWAdmin
[17:56:06] <kevindank>	 drobbins: Yes i did that a couple times
[17:56:16] <kevindank>	 right now its running data repair and upgrade and its at 16%
[17:56:28] <kevindank>	 im into Special:SmwAdmin
[17:57:19] <drobbins>	 kevindank: let the update run. I have not seen that error before.
[17:58:04] <kevindank>	 its been running for like a week
[17:58:16] <drobbins>	 oh.
[17:58:33] <drobbins>	 I think you can speed it up by running php maintenance/update.php from the command-line over and over again.
[17:58:42] <kevindank>	 ok ill try it
[18:00:18] <kevindank>	 now its moving
[18:02:01] <kevindank>	 okay ran it but now its giving this error on Special:Properties Internal error  There is no predefined property with "___QM_UIA".  Backtrace:  #0 C:\xampp\htdocs\extensions\SemanticMediaWiki\includes\storage\SMW_SQLStore2.php(1039): SMWDIProperty->__construct('___QM_UIA') #1 C:\xampp\htdocs\extensions\SemanticMediaWiki\specials\QueryPages\SMW_SpecialProperties.php(104): SMWSQLStore2->getPropertiesSpecial(Object(SMWReque
[18:02:22] <kevindank>	 which if you notice the difference there is no predefined property with _______QM_UIA
[18:02:31] <kevindank>	 which is different then the first issue which listed _CREA
[18:24:15] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Yaron Koren; "Added "LIMIT 1" to SMW ID SELECT queries, in case of duplicate rows" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticDrilldown] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39609
[18:26:39] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticDrilldown] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39609
[20:50:25] <yaron>	 drobbins: if you're still there, what version of MediaWiki are you using?
[20:54:42] <Nikerabbit>	 yaron: do you know what's the status with semantic bundle release process?
[20:55:11] <yaron>	 Nikerabbit: yeah, we just released a new version (the first in 8 months) last week.
[20:55:24] <Nikerabbit>	 yaron: are you using some kind of scripts or what?
[20:55:29] <yaron>	 Oh - yeah.
[20:55:42] <Nikerabbit>	 yaron: where are they?
[20:55:59] <yaron>	 There's one script that generates the files, and another that uploads them.
[20:56:44] <Nikerabbit>	 yaron: I was wondering whether we could merge those with the script I wrote to release language bundle
[20:56:44] <yaron>	 The one that generates the files is "externals", here: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/extensions/SemanticBundle.git;a=tree
[20:56:59] <yaron>	 Oh, that's interesting.
[20:57:25] <drobbins>	 yaron: 1.19.3
[20:57:28] <yaron>	 Sure, definitely - anything to reduce code duplication would be good.
[20:57:45] <drobbins>	 yaron: I'm here now.
[20:58:06] <yaron>	 drobbins: okay, thanks - that's what I thought; the problem only seems to come up for MW 1.19.
[20:58:34] <Nikerabbit>	 yaron: what would be a way to proceed with that plan?
[20:58:48] <yaron>	 Well, where's the language bundle located?
[20:58:57] <yaron>	 Does it have its own Git repository?
[21:00:43] <Nikerabbit>	 yaron: it's here in now: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=translatewiki.git;a=tree;f=melange;h=ece6d1be95d7feb972ccbdf56a5a63b910d7f4db;hb=HEAD
[21:01:10] <Nikerabbit>	 I'm open to creating a new repo for it
[21:01:20] <yaron>	 Oh, okay.
[21:01:47] <yaron>	 Nikerabbit: I wonder if it makes sense, or is possible, to make a generic "bundle creator" script, and put it in core MW's /maintenance directory?
[21:02:06] <yaron>	 (By the way, it's spelled "creator", not "creater". English - don't ask me why. :) )
[21:02:23] <Nikerabbit>	 yaron: you are not the only one to complain about that :D
[21:02:29] <yaron>	 Alright. :)
[21:02:33] <Nikerabbit>	 anyway, I tried to make it generic, but I know it isn't fully generic yet
[21:02:42] <Nikerabbit>	 not sure about having it in core repo
[21:02:54] <yaron>	 Also, I gave you the wrong filename before - the SB one is Makefile, not "externals".
[21:03:06] <yaron>	 You run a "make" in order to generate the files.
[21:03:13] <Nikerabbit>	 yeah I skimmed over the files
[21:03:26] <yaron>	 Well, if it's not in core, I don't know if there's a neutral place to put a generic file like that.
[21:04:14] <yaron>	 Your file looks quite a bit more sophisticated than ours, by the way - and the fact that it's in PHP is a big plus.
[21:04:18] <Nikerabbit>	 yaron: what's wrong with asking for a new repo for the script?
[21:04:40] <yaron>	 Nothing, I guess... just seems like overkill?
[21:05:11] <Nikerabbit>	 yaron: not to me
[21:05:23] <yaron>	 Alright.
[21:05:31] <Nikerabbit>	 could be mediawiki(/tools)/BundleCreator
[21:05:49] <yaron>	 Is there such a directory in Git?
[21:05:56] <Nikerabbit>	 the mw release script repo is also there
[21:06:02] <yaron>	 Oh, okay.
[21:06:11] <Nikerabbit>	 looking at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/settings/projects
[21:06:13] <yaron>	 Yeah, that could work very well.
[21:06:44] <yaron>	 What about that page?
[21:07:03] <Nikerabbit>	 if you click browse you can see what else is under mediawiki/tools
[21:07:45] <yaron>	 Oh, okay. Wow! That's a lot of stuff.
[21:08:10] <Nikerabbit>	 yep
[21:08:12] <yaron>	 How about just "mediawiki/tools/bundles"?
[21:08:22] <yaron>	 Then other stuff could go in there too, potentially.
[21:08:29] <Nikerabbit>	 fine with me
[21:08:36] <yaron>	 JeroenDeDauw: see above. Any thoughts?
[21:10:56] <yaron>	 Nikerabbit: I'm looking now BundleCreater.php - so it packages MediaWiki itself into the bundle?
[21:11:05] <Nikerabbit>	 yaron: nope
[21:11:15] <yaron>	 (now at)
[21:11:17] <yaron>	 Oh.
[21:11:35] <Nikerabbit>	 it's supposed to be used for running unit tests but that is not working yet
[21:11:58] <yaron>	 Oh, I see.
[21:12:39] <yaron>	 And it creates a new tag, and updates the release file, every time?
[21:13:37] <yaron>	 In the case of SB, the downloadable files aren't in Git, although they probably should be.
[21:14:50] <Nikerabbit>	 yaron: what do you mean every time?
[21:15:04] <yaron>	 Every time the script is run.
[21:16:23] <Nikerabbit>	 yeah if you run it through all the steps
[21:16:45] <yaron>	 Oh - so when you run it you comment out different lines?
[21:17:21] <Nikerabbit>	 I do like php melange.php prepare-notes or php melange.php pust-tah
[21:19:00] <yaron>	 Oh, okay, now I get it.
[21:20:03] <yaron>	 That's pretty neat - it's a total framework to do bundling, tagging, installation all from one place.
[21:25:23] <drobbins>	 yaron: do you have a bit of an idea where the ApprovedRevs issue might be lurking?
[21:25:41] <yaron>	 I'm looking into it.
[21:26:13] <drobbins>	 cool, thanks
[21:28:08] <yaron>	 drobbins: it might just be a bug in MW, that was then fixed.
[21:28:26] <yaron>	 Those lines that lack an "(approve)" link also lack an "(undo)" link, right?
[21:33:04] <Nikerabbit>	 yaron: so, should I request a new repo now while I am on that page anyway? :)
[21:33:36] <yaron>	 Nikerabbit - sure, yes!
[21:33:57] <yaron>	 Although we're probably a little way away from being able to have both bundles use the same script.
[21:34:21] <yaron>	 But I'm looking forward to when that can happen.
[21:40:30] <yaron>	 drobbins: yes, it's a bug in MW - the "(approve)" link is actually there, but the browser isn't displaying it due to some mismatched HTML tags.
[21:40:51] <yaron>	 The problems seems to happen for Chrome, but not Firefox - I haven't tried it on other browsers.
[21:45:47] <drobbins>	 yaron: ah, nifty
[21:46:19] <drobbins>	 yaron: can you point me to a patch that fixes it?
[21:46:36] <yaron>	 drobbins: no, but if you upgrade MW, that should do it.
[21:48:58] <drobbins>	 yaron: upgrade to what?
[21:49:12] <yaron>	 MW 1.20 or higher.
[21:49:18] <yaron>	 (I think.)
[21:49:32] <drobbins>	 yaron: isn't 1.19 stable? Or no?
[21:49:38] <yaron>	 Yeah, it's stable.
[21:49:43] <yaron>	 It just has some bugs. :)
[22:16:47] <drobbins>	 yaron: is the upgrade to 1.20 relatively painless?
[22:17:01] <yaron>	 I think so, yes.
[22:17:04] <drobbins>	 yaron: and will it require any metadata regen on the SMW side?
[22:17:14] <yaron>	 I don't know.
[22:17:45] <yaron>	 I doubt it, though.
[22:18:39] <drobbins>	 ok
[22:19:09] <drobbins>	 yaron: oh, 1.19 is now considered legacy, and 1.20 is now considered stable.
[22:54:21] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Yaron Koren; "Fix - replaced "SELECT ... LIMIT 1" with "SELECT MAX" for subqueries" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticDrilldown] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39707
[23:00:50] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticDrilldown] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39707
[23:45:36] <cfedde>	 Can I make a "complex result" in an {{#ask... }}? I want to use a property as part of a remote url embedded in the result table.