[06:11:29] <bonsaikitten>	 I wish to register a complaint!
[06:11:55] <bonsaikitten>	 ... how the bleeping bleep do I force SMW 1.7+ to not rewrite property names wrongly so that things break
[08:01:38] <bonsaikitten>	 Has improper value for 	Telephone number  <-- hate it ... what part of the code wrongly rewrites random strings for fun?! :(
[08:02:10] <bonsaikitten>	 it's Phone number before the update, and a simple grep doesn't find any mentions of that string anywhere else
[09:22:23] <bonsaikitten>	 YEY raNDOm caseSENsitivity! espECIALLY when it doesn"T MAKE SEnse
[09:44:15] <bonsaikitten>	 ... and why the bleeping bleep, seriously, stop rewriting my property names! fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
[10:43:18] <dbolser>	 bonsaikitten: your complaint has been registered ;-)
[10:43:28] <dbolser>	 bonsaikitten: seriously, try the mailing list?
[11:16:46] <bonsaikitten>	 dbolser: been there done that. no response
[11:17:10] <bonsaikitten>	 yet :)
[11:20:43] <bonsaikitten>	 now I only need to find out what friggin part of that code decides to take random things and rename them, then complain that they are renamed
[12:27:35] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Rotsee; "Add property for user's real name" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticExtraSpecialProperties] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39041
[19:36:01] <Frank__>	 Hey folks, is anyone available to help me with a Compound Query related question?
[20:40:02] <Saruman>	 Frank__: lacking anyone better: what seems to be the problem?
[20:45:06] <Frank__>	 I'm trying to pull a few dates from a page and show them on the same eventline.
[20:46:10] <Frank__>	 Some of the dates come from an internal object that describes the page I am on.
[20:46:53] <Frank__>	 The other dates are properties of a different page.  I can show you the whole query.
[20:47:19] <Frank__>	 In the end, I am trying to join together the two sets of events into one eventline.
[20:47:37] <Saruman>	 do not pull data from the page you're on
[20:48:10] <Saruman>	 use the Variables extension to reuse the data if needed, but do not query for data you already have
[20:48:38] <Frank__>	 I will look into that, I really hated the idea of querying the page I am looking at for data.
[20:49:32] <Saruman>	 {{#vardefine:myvar|<value>}} {{#subobject:|prop={{#var:myvar}}}} {{#ask: <condition with {{#var:myvar}}>}}
[20:50:18] <Frank__>	 Good to know, thank you.  I've already found the page for that extension.
[20:50:21] <Saruman>	 other than that I'm somewhat useless to you, since I don't have experience with either eventlines or Compound Query
[20:50:37] <Saruman>	 #var: is da bomb
[20:51:08] <Frank__>	 Hey, that extension sounds really valuable.
[20:51:14] <Frank__>	 Thank you for that.
[20:51:21] <Saruman>	 you're welcome
[20:51:45] <Saruman>	 check out http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:MediaWiki_extensions
[20:51:57] <Saruman>	 Variables is in there
[20:52:37] <Saruman>	 I also like Arrays and HeaderTabs
[20:52:45] <Frank__>	 Very nice.
[20:54:16] <Frank__>	 It even looks like variables is only dependant on the version of MW, not SMW.
[20:57:20] <Saruman>	 correct
[20:57:38] <Saruman>	 It's an MW extension, not an SMW extension
[21:28:36] <Frank__>	 Is anyone here with a familiarity with Semantic Compound Queries or Eventlines?