[00:02:47] Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticInternalObjects] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37774 [00:03:22] Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticInternalObjects] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37775 [00:30:30] New patchset: Yaron Koren; "Fixed handling of #subobject call for non-main namespaces" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticInternalObjects] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37778 [00:32:42] Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticInternalObjects] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37778 [01:02:11] New review: Mwjames; "Hi Yaron," [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticInternalObjects] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37774 [01:22:35] New review: Yaron Koren; "I just looked through that file (Subobject.php), but I couldn't find what to call - ideally there wo..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticInternalObjects] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37774 [01:32:46] New review: Mwjames; "The only thing you have to change is the class name from SMW\Subobject to SMW\SubobjectParser because " [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticInternalObjects] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37774 [01:53:22] New review: Yaron Koren; "Okay, thanks - I'll do that when the commit gets merged." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticInternalObjects] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37774 [09:13:06] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37673 [09:13:20] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (1.8.x) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37680 [09:14:00] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "SMW 1.9/(Bug 34782) Add note to #info parser function" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (1.9.x) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32578 [09:14:46] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (1.9.x) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32578 [09:17:01] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Merge branch '1.9.x'" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37798 [09:17:24] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37798 [11:56:40] hello, i have a problem with export to RDF [11:56:54] this is the error "error on line 2 at column 6: XML declaration allowed only at the start of the document" [11:57:02] what's the problem? [13:30:16] # [14:07:03] Mariana_: can you delete the leading newlines? [14:24:36] dbolser, which newlines? [16:03:14] Mariana_: sounds like the dump has newlines at the start [17:31:19] Hi, I have a template which used a variable like this: "[[{{{myvar}}}]]", no to support SMW, I changed it to "[[Section:Var::{{{myvar}}}]]". This works fine until I set myvar to "target{{!}}name". [17:32:06] +w [17:36:00] Is there any easier solution than "{{#if: {{{myname|}}} | [[{{{mytarget}}}|{{{myname}}}]] | [[{{{mytarget}}}]] }}"? [17:36:24] Is there any easier solution than "{{#if: {{{myname|}}} | [[Section:Var::{{{mytarget}}}|{{{myname}}}]] | [[Section:Var::{{{mytarget}}}]] }}"? [18:08:22] phobie2: don't think so [18:09:06] but it sounds funky to get a single field filled with someting like "target{{!}}name" [18:41:07] phobie2: you can use #set to separate the display from the storing of data - I think that will make it a little less complex. [18:41:36] Also - your property name is "Section:Var"? Colons in property names are generally a bad idea, I think. [19:38:54] New patchset: Kghbln; "Translation update by SMW community * replaced English special property names and type names by their Dutch translations which were provided by Yury Katkov" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37869 [19:52:14] New patchset: Kghbln; "Amended system messages * added qutation marks to parameter values to make them more distinguishable * addes https to external link" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37870 [19:56:40] New review: Siebrand; "Actual changes and commit message are not the same." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37869 [19:57:12] New patchset: Kghbln; "Amended system messages" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37870 [19:59:14] New review: Siebrand; "Two,typos in commit message. See ps1" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37870 [20:03:53] New patchset: Kghbln; "Translation update by SMW community" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37869 [20:05:45] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37869 [20:08:50] New review: Kghbln; "Will do a new patchset on Sunday" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37870 [20:09:36] Hi everyone, I'm looking for a real simple tutorial on using sementic forms. Especially how to set up a page to display the table info. So far what I can find is a bit more comprehensive rather than step by step. [20:12:01] New review: Kghbln; "Adjustment made with https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/37870/" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37022 [20:46:49] Kensie: have you tried Yaron's book? [20:47:04] Saruman: I haven't, is it online? [20:47:18] 'tis, but not for free [20:47:19] http://workingwithmediawiki.com/ [20:47:31] buy it, you'll support the man that creates and maintains SF [20:48:44] Thanks, seems a bit overkill for what I need though, also hoping for a faster answer. I will keep it in mind. [20:48:58] fastest answer is just dive in and start trying [20:48:58] oh it is available as an ebook [20:49:10] trial and error will teach you the hard and efficient way [20:49:24] that is a matter of opinion. Not everyone learns best that way. [20:50:00] I also don't see how it is more efficient than being shown how to do it. It would take someone 2 min to show me how to do it, which is a lot less time than it would take through trial and error. [20:50:25] it would absolutely not take 2 minutes [20:50:29] especially depending on how involved you want that trial and error to be. I'd still have to read docs, so now we come back to my original request for more efficient docs ;) [20:50:31] there are just too many options [20:50:39] I have the options I want, I know the page I need [20:50:46] Better docs are always needed! [20:50:52] I just don't know how to tell the wiki page how to display the table [20:51:02] that has nothing to do with SF?!? [20:51:13] I use the forms to create the info [20:51:16] now I want to see the info [20:51:18] nevertheless [20:51:35] SF only creates pages, it doesn't take care of showing them [20:51:49] SF gets the info, templates display it [20:52:05] url? [20:52:16] I appreciate you taking the time to talk to me, but I actually have to run right this second, I forgot about an appointment. Good thing my kids remembered! [20:52:24] :-) [21:39:13] hi [21:39:26] are there ubuntu packages for installing semantic mediawiki? [21:46:38] drdozer: I believe there are, but you might consider staying away [21:46:57] oh? [21:47:21] oh wait, SMW [21:47:27] dunno, prolly not [21:47:37] one more reason not to go for Ubuntu packaged MW [21:48:10] I'd advise to uninstall MW from Ubuntu, install stable tarball in /opt, and put SMW in there [21:49:10] ok, thanks [22:35:19] I'm hoping to use semantic mediawiki to curate a group of terminologies that we're building [22:35:35] is it easy to associate pages with URIs living elsewhere? [22:36:02] I really need the generated OWL/RDF to refer to our terminology URIs, not to pages on our mediawiki installation. [22:39:45] in the rdf export help, it says "The export distinguishes the page in the wiki and the "thing" that the page discusses. ... TODO" [22:51:59] drdozer: I don't know anything about this stuff, but there was just a discusson on the SMW mailing list about it - see here: http://wikimedia.7.n6.nabble.com/importing-dublin-core-property-type-becomes-page-td4991068.html [22:55:03] thanks yaron