[01:07:11] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Some cleanup of the property statistics code [DO NOT MERGE]" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37656
[04:24:49] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Yaron Koren; "I re-assigned that bug to Stephan. There are a few other issues that have been discovered in this co..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34974
[12:29:12] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Kghbln; "Remove obsolete configurations parameters" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37673
[12:32:34] <Domerich>	 is there a way to store only time in Type:Date
[12:32:48] <Domerich>	 it wont accept 00:00:50
[12:36:47] <Domerich>	 I want to show a timeline where only hours min etc matter. The actual day doesnt matter
[12:58:55] <Saruman>	 Domerich: there currently isn't
[12:59:21] <Domerich>	 ok thanks
[12:59:44] <Saruman>	 You could define a custom data type "duration" and have it store seconds, but that still wouldn't respect the rollover from 59s to 1:00
[13:00:31] <Saruman>	 It also wouldn't plot on Timeline as that's geared towards dates
[13:58:50] <kghbln>	 REGISTER S2ozpGEWlaCfRqd9fNc0zJ1 karsten@hoffmeyer.info
[13:59:07] <kghbln>	 ouch
[14:00:58] <Saruman>	 time for a new password methinks
[14:04:11] <kgh>	 nick [[kgh]]
[14:05:35] <kgh>	 this is fatigueing
[14:12:32] <Saruman>	 Internet is like that...
[14:30:30] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mwjames; "(Bug 42830) Avoid getLink() strict standards warning" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMaps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37675
[15:09:03] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mwjames; "Remove obsolete configurations parameters" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (1.8.x) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37680
[15:10:05] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Mwjames; "For 1.8.x patch, see [1]" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 1 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37673
[16:00:00] <kghbln>	 GROUP kghbln|away
[16:15:00] <Domerich>	 mh I want to include varibable but it doesnt work
[16:15:33] <Domerich>	 starttime={{{date }}}00:00:00 where date is a named variable in that document
[16:31:08] <Domerich>	 can I define a variable in a page so that it can be used by different templates at the same time?
[16:40:43] <Domerich>	 can anybody tell me what I get these error msg for?
[16:41:29] <Domerich>	 oh okay
[16:51:36] <Domerich>	 why is SMW doing breaks after every sentense even though I didnt say so? http://domerich.funpic.de/wiki/index.php/Test1
[16:59:35] <Saruman>	 I don't think it's SMW giving the breaks, but your inserting a break in the Marktext template, between </noinclude> and {{{maintext|}}}
[16:59:50] <Domerich>	 that's good advice
[16:59:58] <Saruman>	 and you've a second one there beteeen {{{maintext|}}} and the {{#set: declaration
[17:00:12] <Domerich>	 I was just checking the template but didnt see it myself ^^
[17:00:50] <Saruman>	 It's an oversight I've made many dozens of time myself :-)
[17:01:54] <Domerich>	 :D great now it works. thanks
[17:01:58] <Domerich>	 I was already panicing
[17:20:59] <Domerich>	 is
[17:21:32] <Domerich>	 there a symbol for empty? because I get trouble when I use {{{1|}}},  when {{{1|no entry}}} gets me out of trouble
[17:27:47] <yaron>	 Domerich: what kind of trouble?
[17:28:01] <Domerich>	 it gives me yellow warnings
[17:28:23] <Domerich>	 http://domerich.funpic.de/wiki/index.php/Test1
[17:29:45] <yaron>	 Domerich - for some reason, I can't get rid of those popup ads on the site.
[17:29:58] <Domerich>	 you need to intall adblocker in opera
[17:30:07] <Domerich>	 I dont see any adversitement anymore
[17:30:15] <yaron>	 Actually, never mind, it went away.
[17:30:19] <Domerich>	 :D
[17:31:03] <yaron>	 Domerich: there's a LocalSettings.php setting that dictates whether those error messages are displayed.
[17:31:18] <Domerich>	 well isnt there something wrong?
[17:31:24] <yaron>	 You might even have it turned on, since I thought it was off by default...
[17:31:39] <Domerich>	 I dont know thats what I did http://domerich.funpic.de/wiki/index.php?title=Vorlage:MarkText&action=edit
[17:31:53] <yaron>	 No, it's not a real error message - I don't think saving a blank property value is an error.
[17:31:55] <Domerich>	 when I change {{{2|}}} to {{{2|no topic}}} they go away
[17:32:15] <yaron>	 That dates from the days when SMW properties were usually in free text, as opposed to in templates.
[17:32:29] <Domerich>	 mh
[17:33:27] <yaron>	 Ah, here we go - you should set "$smwgInlineErrors = false;".
[17:36:07] <Domerich>	 for some reason I cant find that line
[17:37:38] <Domerich>	 ah I should add it :D
[17:39:20] <Domerich>	 I think it's still showing them
[17:50:45] <Domerich>	 :(
[18:14:39] <Saruman>	 Domerich: I've cleared all your errors
[18:15:11] <Domerich>	 thank you. what was wrong?
[18:15:22] <Saruman>	 but you've lost the multiple-topic possibility until you've installed extension ParserFunctions and move the code from explanation to subobject
[18:15:54] <Domerich>	 let me check
[18:16:03] <Saruman>	 2 things: your topic wasn't typed and thus was of type "page" or "seite" - it now is typed "string"
[18:16:45] <Domerich>	 oh bad practise on my part.
[18:16:48] <Saruman>	 next, {{#subobject: apparently allows for multiple values, but doesn't like <value1>||
[18:17:32] <Saruman>	 so you need code that does <value1> or <value1>|<value2> or <value1>|<value2>|<value3> as needed
[18:17:32] <Domerich>	 so it always wants a value?
[18:17:40] <Saruman>	 apparently so
[18:17:53] <Saruman>	 after typing "topic" it complained about empty values
[18:18:04] <Saruman>	 so if you install ParserFunctions you can do #if: logic
[18:18:04] <Domerich>	 haha ok
[18:18:13] <Domerich>	 nice I need to read up on that
[18:18:18] <Saruman>	 the right expression is already in the explanation of Vorlage:MarkText
[18:18:35] <Domerich>	 yeah I saw you added something :)
[18:19:04] <Saruman>	 also there's a nifty trick involving template {{{!}}}
[18:19:54] <Saruman>	 used many a time, when you want to do stuff like {{#if: <condition>|<value>}} but <value> itself needs a pipe symbol
[18:20:24] <Saruman>	 if you put the {{!}} in there, the #if doesn't see it, but after evaluation of the #if expression, the pipe appears
[18:21:12] <Saruman>	 its sort of a convention to use {{!}} for that pipe-that-isn't-a-pipe-on-first-parse
[18:22:32] <Domerich>	 errr
[18:23:18] <Domerich>	 one thing after another :) what does this do? {{#if:{{{1|}}}|{{!}}{{{1}}}}}
[18:23:27] <Domerich>	 if 1 is empty...
[18:23:52] <Saruman>	 if {{{1}}} is empty, it does nothing
[18:24:07] <Saruman>	 if it isn't, the statement prints {{!}}{{{1}}}
[18:24:20] <Saruman>	 but {{!}} gets substituted as |
[18:24:24] <Saruman>	 thus: |{{{1}}}
[18:24:38] <Domerich>	 haha good stuff
[18:24:48] <Saruman>	 read http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions#Escaping_pipe_characters_in_tables
[18:24:53] <Saruman>	 same principle
[18:25:00] <Saruman>	 ok gotta go, bass lesson
[18:25:01] <Saruman>	 \o
[18:25:07] <Domerich>	 you play bass too ? :)
[18:25:33] <Domerich>	 ok thanks cu
[19:50:59] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMaps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37675
[20:26:03] <Saruman>	 re
[22:30:43] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Yaron Koren; "Added handling for the case of no top-level categories in the wiki" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticDrilldown] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37772
[22:37:23] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticDrilldown] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37772
[23:28:31] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Yaron Koren; "Changed SIO index to pad to three digits (001 instead of 1)" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticInternalObjects] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37773
[23:29:41] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticInternalObjects] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37773
[23:52:50] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Yaron Koren; "Added handling for SMW 1.9 - SMWSubobject class is now SMW\Subobject" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticInternalObjects] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37774
[23:58:56] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Yaron Koren; "Fixed problem in copying" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticInternalObjects] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37775